The 35mm F1.4 GM brings one of photography's classic focal lengths to Sony's G Master series of lenses. How does it perform? According to Chris and Jordan, it's pretty darn good.
HOW ON EARTH is nobody angry that in our age of enlightened times... the elephant in the room is still a practice tollerated ?
Nobody noticed or everybody complicit or me naive..? Makes me angry. Anyway.
There is a new lens and it is commented this and that, and commented with an analysis of the market situation (by dpreview), calmly and knowledgeably "reasonably" comparing to the 'other' options - wile silencing the Sigma 35mm F1.2 DG DN Art ????!!!! Is that supposed to be funny ? I guess that putting forward the "lightness" of this lens is supposed to justify to silence the exceptionally heavy Sigma 35mm F1.2 DG DN Art -but the also exceptional quality of its images.
How are we supposed to "enjoy " and be eager to see and read such reviews ?
Notice please I'm NOT speculating here regarding how it compares to the DN lens. I'm not involved in marketing or brand here. Just principles. Here I really refer back to my here above first question.
It's significantly larger and twice the weight. I think it is fair and understandable that it was discussed relative to the Sony Zeiss f1.4 and the Sony f1.8. Realistically those are the lenses being cross-shopped here.
Sigma 35mm f1.2 complements my Sony 135mm GM well. Both use the same filter size and are very close in size, meaning I can use the same bag as well. Both extremely sharp and fast.
I prefer a 28mm over 35mm too, my personal set-up is 28mm, 50mm, 85mm, 135mm and 200mm I did pretty much every job with this set-up never missed a 35mm though I have one because I like to collect lenses :)
I think many photographers would prefer $1400 35/1.4 than much heavier and more expensive 35/1.2. And only Sony E users have many 35mm options with AF(from f1.2 to 2.8).
E mount is the 35mm mount which happens to stand for the focal length of the majority of lenses. We have about 15 or so dedicated E mount 35mm options.
In fact it it weird we have no 150mm or 180, 200mm primes at all. There is also no portrait lens around 100-105mm. I think an f/2 or f/2.5 would be very useful.
Looking at the last 5 pictures of the galery ... I got reminded to the performance of the 35Z.
#32 shows plenty of LoCa? And having to focus on the borders to get them sharp is also needed with the 35Z. At f2.8 the Zony is also tack sharp.
But I tested with a 24Mpix body ... so this is probably still a good overall update! And I admire the GM design and thankfully Sony finally gives a consistent lens lineup.
I doubt starbursts will please those that care a ton about that and flock to the CV primes over it, but the Northrop review has good samples of it nonetheless. Gordon's comparison is as useful as ever and the Sigma is the more logical benchmark, tho I guess there might still be more people around with the Zeiss than the Sigma.
Edit: Ooh when first skimming Tony's video I missed the fact that he compared the GM vs the f1.8 as well, he's got useful section links in the description btw. The CA comparison vs the f1.8 is pretty telling IMO. As an aside, I dunno how people ever found the bokeh of the Zeiss appealing...
Well, you are pixel peeping at 60/240MP, it's easy to lose sight of the fact that these differences are at 500% magnification or so. But damn is that sharp and free from CA, looks like the a7r V could increase the resolution even further. Make the 102MP GFX100 sweat a little...
I agree, the fringing is not so well controlled when pushed. This seems to be one area where Canon and Nikon do better, perhaps this is the advantage to the bigger mount? Other than that, this lens looks very nice indeed and very compact as well. Another winner I think.
@panther - on other sites results seem way better as the samples here. Really hope DPreview finds the time to have a look into CA and LoCA of a few 35mm lenses under the same conditions.
Man right as I’m comparing the new Sigma 35 f/2 and Sony 35 f/1.8 this comes out. Maybe those still win and still being compact compared to this... 280 for the 1.8, 325 for the Sigma, and 524 here for the 1.4. Hmmm...
This might be comparing apples to oranges a little bit.
Little bit, the Sigma is kinda heavy due to it's build but I dunno if that translates to anything beyond the subjective feel (only sealed at the mount, whereas the two Sony and even the Samyang have multiple seals), tho the aperture wheel alone will hold some appeal for many.
The Sonys all have a shorter MFD which I really appreciate in a wide, and the fastest AF. There's other even smaller/lighter options at nearby FLs (eg SY 45/1.8) but the GM is easily the lightest if not the smallest at f1.4. The GM's 67mm filter thread is rather nice, same as some Sigma zooms, all Tamron FE lenses, and the 20G & 24GM.
I've actually got a step up on my 35/1.8 right now just to get it to 58mm so I can use some filters I already had and some adjustable ones I've got coming, it's kinda the only oddball in my kit <58mm.
I‘m a sucker for fast glass but a 35mm F1.8 or F2.0 can handle most situations with a modern full frame sensor. Though I tend to a combination of a tiny 35mm F2.8 and a bright 35mm F1.4 instead. When I take my camera out I can choose between very light or heavy and bright. Sometines I miss a F1.8 and the CV F1.2 is tempting. I like the new GM because of size and weight but maybe my next purchase will be a CV 40mm F1.2. All those choices...
@RDD - did you do compare shots betwen F1.2 and 1.4? At least at 85mm I was surprised how little the difference was. (Manny Ortiz has nice video about that)
You are too kind with this question this way. I just posted on other two occasions here my anger about how we get manipulated. It is indeed unacceptable to circumvent and silence the Sigma 35mm F1.2 DG DN Art, however heavy and big it is (maybe excusing so by putting forward how "Light" this lens is) . The fact that they do not mention the DN is that the Sigma 35mm F1.2 DG DN Art might still be better than this new Sony. They certainly deserve this heavy doubt now. I think it is despicable, because unimaginable the DN was forgotten. ( I doooo find my DN too heavy, but I do prefer it's weight to the quality of Canon II I did have.)
Great review. I'm not happy with my Sony 35 1.8, and am considering the Sigma DG DN 1.2. - which would appear to be the natural competitor to this new Sony.
Somewhat like Chris, I'm not the biggest fan of 35mm, but it has its uses. Decisions, Decisions!
Chromatic aberration. And I'm not talking just particularly demanding stress-test shots. It is very sharp and light. Not much character, but it's the aberration that drives me nuts - and the 7R4 will sniff it right out.
its been a trend with sony lenses. i even got the 135gm everyone praises but other than the obvious FL and sharpness, and the focusing ability which are all nice, it wasn't giving me anything special at all in the final image. samyang lenses i am really starting to like though because they give me something different i feel like.
Yarnim, I have both the Sony and Rokinon 135. I may send the Sony back, because I enjoy manual focus, and the IQ is quite close. The Sony is a tiny bit better, and the AF is awesome. But, I could spend that money elsewhere. I'm still trying to make up my mind.
Still pure speculation of mine: The DN f1.2 might well be less sharp than the GM f1.4, or somewhat less advisable for architecture but still, perhaps, have a different pop or bokeh (swirl or not, etc), at 1.4, 1.8, 2... or less liked, than we have to see check if there is a difference f1.2 to f1.4 between the lenses. I could imagine that I could hang on to my DN ONLY for the f1.2 results (regardless of mesuring T-Stop or slight lesser good f1.4 when compared to the GM) if it's mood attracts me more. I sens that will be the case. Otherwise I'd be happywith lesser weight and size. . I'm quite confident that this GM would be my absolut mus did the DN not exist. 'aItxs just that oddly' the f1.2 m (and f1.4 105mm Sigma) might suddenly become be "caracter lenses, vs clinical othersv, when usually that type of language was used otherway around. As I said : still speculation.
Adam007, I too have both, but decided to send the rokinon back even though I truthfully liked the images from the rokinon better. Call me unskilled but focusing anything moving wide open with the rokinon for me was way too hard. So for focusing alone I decided to keep GM. If they slapped an AF motor on that 135, my gm will be sold.
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