Chris and Jordan review six popular camera shoulder bags, including models from Peak Design, Lowepro, Think Tank, Wotancraft, Vanguard and Manfrotto. Find out what they like about each, and which ones they picked for their own use.
After 25 years of various bags, I settled for the Crumpler Light Delight 6000. Fits two mFT bodies with four lenses, cards, batteries, and other small accessories. Extremely well designed, for example the black version has a yellow inside to easily find what you’re looking for.
Fantastic bag at a reasonable price, so good I just bought one extra just in case even though my original one is still in perfect condition after years of heavy usage.
I am glad to see that you included Wotancraft in this comparison. I have never used a better, more beautiful shoulder bag than my Wotancraft. That Pilot looks very nice. They also make the Trooper, a different model that I think is even nicer and more beautiful (also more expensive). I liked my Trooper M so much that I bought a Trooper S for when I wanted something smaller and lighter. Definitely check out Wotancraft.
If you use the bag while shooting, you might want to keep the camera and lens on a strap over one shoulder and the bag over the other. The camera will spend very little time in the bag. The bag is for lenses, batteries, and maybe a flash. If you're transporting, hiking, or shooting static subjects like landscapes where you can preferably shoot out of a bag laid open on the ground - get a backpack. Either day pack size, or larger if you're not going far but want plenty of gear or just want to bring it as a carry-on for air travel. (In which case the day pack sized one will be a fine personal item bag, just toss the dividers and inserts in your main checked luggage.)
Those plastic swivels on the Wotancraft are a real shame. It looks like an excellent bag otherwise, but that's the kind of corner-cutting that ruins the whole product for me. They just never last, and I would never trust them to support several thousand dollars' worth of gear. Someday they *will* break.
I also don't give any points for DWR coatings, because in my experience they aren't—aren't durable, that is. They last for a while, maybe a few months if the item sees heavy use, but I've got bags that I've been using for ten years or more and there's no DWR coating in the world that will last that long. I see DWR as basically a marketing thing—they work great in testing, but if you actually own the product they just wear out and you can't really fix them. Wax can at least be reapplied (though hardly anyone does) but for my money a vinyl inner liner is where it's at.
They only have 1 available on their website right now which is the Burton F-Stop 28L Camera Backpack. It is on sale presently. I own 2 of them. You can also usually find them on Ebay.
Personally I have been using Berlingham bags for decades and swear by it, they are already more than 20 years old and the only thing I changed are the inserts as the old ones has since disintegrated internally. I have took them in the forest, tropical thunderstorms, crossing waterfalls and rivers, dropped the bags down the stairs, kicked them along the airplane aisles, you named it, I have abused it with all my gears inside fully loaded. The only damaged I had was a broken skylight filter on my Nikkor 200mm f/4.
It’s the most expensive bag I have ever bought but I had so much fun with it. I even used one of my smaller ones as my baby nappy bag for my girls who are all grown up now
All those bags plead "Steal Me!" Kinda like those Aluminum Zero-Halliburton cases that'd disappeared from airlines back in the day. I use old beater mil-surplus bags and fit padded compartments inside. Also run stainless cable inside the straps to foil knives cutting through. On top of everything I stopped flying back in 2000. Road is the way to go.
I really like the Maxpedition Jumbo Versipack with a padded insert in the main pouch for the camera with main lens. Fits SonyA7R3 and 24-105 perfectly. The water bottle holder also takes a lens case and I've attached a small prime Lowepro lens case to the strap. Lots of additional storage for flash and accessories.
So many good bags not covered, including one I have never heard of in Switzerland. Use Tamrac, Tenba, Billingham ( Three of mine now over 35 years old and still like new). Also find Kalahari bags good. Bags can be a very personal choice reviews sorry to say often miss what some users may prefer. Tamrac bags have covered a very wide range of uses and now also produces what were Guru gear bags. Any way interesting article but the models covered not representative.
A normal day out shooting birds lets me wish to store a longer tele lens attached to the camera... So am I right: its only the Vanguard that can store such a combination? All the other bags seem to be "filled" with the tele lens even without the camera....
Bag manufacturers and their bags seem to arrive on the market as brands and models that are short-lived and disappear into history almost as fast. This appears to have little to do with their merit. Even the long running brands seem to have to turn over their models. And they don't seem to get any better. Once you've found a bag that really works for you, it pays to keep an eye out for good used ones to buy as a back up if they've been discontinued.
They didn't completely dissappear. They were owned by The Vitec Group, which decided to consolidate its products and had its core brand, Manfrotto, absorbe Kata. At first, it was fine as it was just a rebrand of the same products minus some more unique offerings (e.g. that revolver backpack). Arguably, Manfrotto bags have a worse colour scheme than Kata (I love those bright yellow inserts Kata was known for) but there were no material differences. A few year later, you can still some Kata DNA on the high-end backpacks, but not so much to entry/mid-tier gear which went downhill in quality.
Isn't small backpack better than a bag? It stays in place when you move, you can unload weight from the spine with waist strap and the load is symmetrical which probably is a healthier solution.
I use - discontinued, unfortunately - Lowepro Orion Trekker II and it seems Lowepro doesn't have such a small backpack anymore. What a shame.
I find a backpack is better to carry gear but a shoulder bag (aka “Shooters Bag”) is often preferable for quick access during an event. While I’ve moved mostly to backpacks and sling bags, my trusty Domke F4 remains ready to serve when called.
I've seen very few, if any, camera daypacks that were suitable for photography and hiking. Poorly designed / un-ergonomic bags, poor straps, no space for hiking gear, no way to access camera and lenses while hiking...
Agree with Bobthearch. The first problem with camera backpacks is that they're on your back. That's suitable for transport and unsuitable for photography. The second problem is that the manufacturers who make them have no idea about hiking - they offer bags with dividers to store your photographic gear like some kind of Tetris challenge but leave no room for jumpers, raincoats, hats, gloves, food, water, maps, GPS, suncream, and all the other junk that we cart with us. And that's just for a decent day hike. They're utterly unsuited to multi-night hikes when you have to carry even more.
I got lots of trouble as my camera bag got heavier with extra kit, and I looked to backpacks but found they really did slow me down.
Now - my solution to the backpack problem is to have TWO smaller size shoulder bags - and wear them one on each side "bandolier style".
This way the weight is balanced evenly accross your spine. By having one bag for commonly used lenses - and the other for bodies, flash and rarer use lenses - I get the benefits of shoulder bags for speed but minimise the discomfort. Try it out if this is your dilemma too.
Even better - there are plenty of well priced small to medium sized camera bags out there a with good design & build. The moment the bag is scaled up to "professional size" - then the cost magically seems to tmultiply rapidly!
My hiking solution is to wear a backpack that contains hiking gear and heavier camera items ~and~ a small shoulder bag with camera and lenses that I want within reach while walking. I can do that with either a backback or a daypack.
How quickly can you get your camera out and take a photo or video? If it's fast enough, that's good. Some sling bags are much quicker; however, I maintain comfort by taking very little in them.
I bought the smallest streetwalker. Amazing backpack.
I like the Ona messenger bag for smaller rangefinder based camera gear. Easily fits one camera with three lenses and is not heavy either. Better priced for great quality than IMO overpriced Billingham bags where even the shoulder strap needs to be purchased separately.
Hmm, without checking out every detail I do not see that Billingham bags are really overpriced in comparison to ONA bags. Also, Billingham bags come normally with a shoulder strap, what you can buy separately is a shoulder pad. At the end of the day all comes down to personal preferences and taste and that’s fine… different people, different choices. Personally I really like my Billingham bags and would not exchange them against any other bag.
@crowley213: I state corrected - I referred to the shoulder pad (not the strap) which is mostly included automatically in other bag brands. When I compared prices, the Ona bag was significantly better priced in the US than any kind of Billingham bag. Prices might vary locally, not sure.
As you may know, Billingham offers two lines of shoulder pads, so you have the choice. In regards to price, which ONA bag do you compare to which Billingham bag?
Special-purposed storage slots and pockets, comes with padding and dividers that fit perfect, designed for accessing the camera and gear quickly, storage/straps for carrying a tripod, light-colored interior... I can't see adapting a bag into a camera bag when you can just buy a camera bag in the first place.
I sometimes make my own padded dividers, but these days I mostly use camera cubes from Peak Design, Mountainsmith and (for the budget minded) Apecase. The latter seem to be out of business so search “camera insert” on Amazon for alternatives. I also make use of “Domke” wraps (genuine and knockoff) and inexpensive neoprene lens pouches (also Amazon) when packing gear.
Searching Amazon myself, I see Chrome Industries is now making an insert in their Nikko line. I use their Nikko sling to carry my Fuji X100V kit — both on its own and as an insert in other bags. The 5L Peak Design Everday Sling often serves as insert for ILC kit — and can be put into service itself once I’ve reached basecamp.
Looks like my Mindshift Exposure 15 bag has been discontinued. Not sure why as it has just about being the perfect outdoor shoulder bag. As I often cycle to locations, a shoulder bag suits me better than a back pack. Super attention to detail with a waterproof tarpaulin base and sail cloth top cover, and a superb all weather cover. The strap is not perfect. Camera shoulder straps like the Peak Design slide tend to hook under the adjustment straps and the padded bit could do with being a bit wider, but getting a new strap is easy.
Looking at the lineup of Vanguard VEO bags, I'm sad to see how many of the cool features are absent from the smaller models. The easy-access opening, the bottom straps, zippered compartments...
My Lowepro micro trekker 100, a small backpack bag, was discontinued, and it's the only bag I liked. Was lucky to find a new old stock one from an estate sale with all the tags still on it...
Did Peak change the design for the v2? I have the first one, and both sides have external pockets on (albeit small). But it's definitely big enough to hold a plastic water bottle on either side on the outside. Plus the half the side of the pocket was a strap to hold the Capture clip. Seems dumb to get rid of it.
They did remove them for V2, I use the V1 pockets all the time to carry my kids water bottles and my own but they are quite tight and eat into the interior space. I guess PD wanted to make it more streamlined. A shame because there is no way I will use a bag that can't carry water externally/separate from the main compartment on a day out shooting.
Yeah, I can't believe they'd even get rid of the little strap where you could put the Capture clip on. Seems like a real bad move. It also seems like the laptop sleeve is inside the bag now, which I also am not a fan of, since my small folding stool that I take on shoots juuuust squeezes in the external pocket.
The attachment for for capture clip is still there on both sides, just really well hidden. I always found the outside laptop pocket super tight, i think you'll find the one inside has more room. Certainly on their slings they have a similar magnetic sleeve and it has a lot more give.
There is no perfect bag. Most of us have a bunch and select the one we want based on what we want to carry, how we'll be shooting, and whether on not we need to keep the bag with us and shoot from it or put it down and take what we need.
For me, it is important than any bag have lots of available pockets, including many available without lifting the flap, and I prefer bags with a "bottle holder" on the side - great when you need a bottle, but also a great place to put a lens temporarily when changing lenses. For me, the lack of that bottle holder rules out the peak, no matter how good it is otherwise.
It is a shame that Think Tank abandoned the Urban Disguise series - I love my UD 60, especially with the back pack attachments for travel.
I have a UD40. My only concern is rain. The exposed zipper. I have 2 Billingham bags because of this. So simple. My camera is instantly available So my UD40 is more a storage bag….
I agree that the rain cover for the UD60 is problematic - you can't carry the bag with the cover on. So, I keep a plastic poncho in the bag - it can over the bag and me, keeping us both dry.
What I like the most about the UD60 is I can throw it on my back when travelling, when it is quite comfortable and stable and I have both hands free, but then remove the backpack straps and use it as a shoulder/shooting bag at my destination.
@Bobthearch Thatsnot always true. Put the rain cover on my old Retro 10 and you can’t shoot at all. Put the same gear in a Billingham and you can shoot instantly. Same with Domke if you trust the waterproofing.
I expect to keep shooting until it rains and rains hard.
not sure how many there are on the market but id love a video like this with waist bags. I have arthritis in C5 & C6 so currently use a Lowepro m-trekker hp120 which is fine for my gx80 with a tamron 28-300 f3.5-6.3 +Pana 12-32 & canon 50mm butitll be too small when i update to a G9 or 5D mk4
I really love dpreview.tv! But this time you really messed up with your cons on the Peak Design shoulder bag. it DOES have 4 slings on the bottom side with 2 extra straps witch is exactly dedicated for tripods, jackets (machetes?!). But as a lot of commenters said before: shoulder bags are okay for small trips with lightweight gear. If you’re carrying more than 2 Kg, I’d strongly revommend a backpack!
Why no ONA...why no Domke....why no Fstop, why no Billingham...why no Case Logic...why no Thule...why no Crumpler....why no Caruba....why no Guru...or any of the other 100+ shoulder bag brands?
Yeah, Domke is my favorite, no question. Use them up one after the other. But it's true, there are so many good choices out there now it's bewildering.
I have three different Billingham, three different sizes and styles. I use them all and they cannot be Beat and one ONA Bowery, which I. also love. Have taken them everywhere for street to events, durable, stylish, and very rugged, if you have good equipment protect it well in all weather and have easy quick access to yout camera and lenses. The Billingham compact stowaway with the Fuji x100v ion the street in a great small setup for example. Cheers
I actually have four Billingham bags 550, 335, a Hadley and a small discontinued one which easily holds a Pentax MX plus three M primes and some other bits and pieces. I know they have a lot of disadvantages, especially the Hadley but I've never found any bags that carry so well, are so comfortable to use and last forever.
The small bag test makes no sense. The whole point of choosing a small bag is to minimize your carrying capacity. Who rates a camera bag on its ability to carry around a machete? It’s a fricking camera bag!!! You figure what you want to carry and go from there. If you need to add pockets then you chose a bag that was too small. I love the Peak Design bag. It’s brilliant. It’s well made and waterproof, but it’s so versatile. I carry my Nikon ZII with the 24-70 attached it goes in lens down as does my 70-20 in a separate slot. However, if I’m shooting with the 70-200 attached, a flip of the dividers allows me to put the smaller lens into a slot and the Z with the long tele, lays in in horizontally. That instantaneous flexibility allows me to focus on shooting, not logistics. I love how streamlined it is. Pockets are annoying and so is having to retreat the bag frequently. Bad choice Chris.
I have a Billingham Hadley Digital. It’s a wonderful walk around bag. It just holds the gear I want to use. Nikon D300S with grip and a walk around zoom lens.
I traded my Think Tank Retro10 because it was a heavy brick when I had to use the raincover and I couldn’t shoot.
Love this. Well discussed, practical, without talking down to the viewer. And, man, I never knew I needed a machete for my urban photography, but, gosh, I think I'm going to have to add that to my gear list.
It's interesting that every time you decide to buy some new gear, you end up looking for a new bag to reconfigure everything. Just look below to see all the comments on the numerous bags they've had.😄 And for M43 users...I like my ThinkTank Mover 25i...small, yet two bodies and three lenses and accessories. Yes... smaller bodies/lenses though.😉
I use a middle size Tenba shoulder bag and like it so far. It holds it‘s form pretty well fits a mirrorless with 3-5 lenses. I like the zipper at the top of the front flap so I don‘t need to open the flap to take out the camera.
That said I have to say that after years of using shoulder bags as cross body bags I have health issues. The weight even of small and empty bags causes some stress on the neck and shoulder. I get a paining shoulder when I use a shoulder bag for some time. So I need to look for other types of camera bags maybe backpacks now.
So keep in mind that shoulder bags, even the good ones, can cause health issues.
Speaking with a few decades of experience and enough camera bags whether shoulder, backpack, sling, waist pack, roller down to the smallest for a P&S I can almost open my own camera bag store lol.... Nothing is perfect. It was especially hard when mirrorless was new and you have small systems that have a to fit in a bag designed for the DSLR thats too big or a p&s thats too small.. Best solution I have found when it comes to Air travel is all gear comes as a carry on and I pack empty shoulder bag to use locally as if I were at home. Car travel is pretty easy but again if you are staying at hotels you will be happy to have a roller bag or backpack to get from point A to B then unload to a shoulder or sling bag or small backpack. I have first hand experience with the Wontancraft 10 L and I did a write up in the accessory forum. Think Tank and Mindcraft as well. How you pack for a Cruise is even a bit different. Determine the itinerary and go from there. extra batteries and chargers to
It's extremely difficult to find a good bag - bag makers seem to be in a race to the bottom. I didn't like any of these. C&J carried a body and lenses, but their test 'kit' didn't include a host of small accessories that need to be carried and therefore stored and organized - cards, spare batteries, filters, hoods, remote release, lens cleaning kit, a note book, pen.... For some unknown reason, manufacturers seem to have dropped separate external zipped pockets where these things used to fit. These bags look pretty floppy to me - not much crush protection. And a number of them don't even zip closed - they rely on a top flap and buckle - not interested. I still use an old bag that has three zipped external pockets, one on each end and one on the front - so much easier to organize. If a manufacturer wants to sell me a new bag, they need to be more robust and have multiple external pockets that all zip closed. And if it looks less chic and more like a camera bag, that's fine.
Thanks for reminding me of my own camera bag assortment and thereby of the fact that none of the several bags I have in somewhat frequent use, having chosen them with compactness in mind, has a laptop compartment. Now that I've finally managed to get myself a small and light but still capable enough laptop, I've just ordered a Matin Clever 140FC bag—for 60€ (US$70, £50). After the year-long good experience I now have with other bags from that brand I don't see reason to pay more (for a perhaps even less fitting bag, for my purposes)...
I do not like any of those bags ! Please try bags like Tenba DNA 15 Slim Messanger. I do not need a bag that can have a labtop. I have my trusty old LowePro Trimtech, a high and slim bag where I can have at least 1 Camera with a Lens and 2 Lenses, about 10" deep inside so I fx can have a Sony camera mounted with Sony 135mm 1.8 GM with Lens Hood mounted for fast access.
I,I,I,I,I...the problem is manufactures of camera bags usually don't design bags for the I's but for the masses. So they have to take some kind of approach (based on userS input) what average is liked/pleased etc etc etc to serve as much buyers as possible,
They could have reviewed literally 50+ shoulder bags and still get comments "*I* don't like.. why did you not review .....bag"
Informative video, will help enough people to make a good choice.
M Lammerse They could have and should have tested more camera bags, but ok, they asked for more suggestions of bags to test, THAT is what I have done. Many camera bags today are not that "simple", effective and rugged like yesterdays camera bags, I am lucky that my old camera bags still lives on !
I just read this at Tenba´s web site: "along with a laptop up to 13 inches (33 cm) and a tablet up to 11 inches (28 cm) such as the Apple® iPad® 11 Pro." Who the h... are so stupid to carry both a Labtop and tablet at the same time !? I do not need anything more tham my phone !
Call me stupid I guess. I sometimes have occasion to carry my computer and one, even two, tablets. And yes, my phone too. I’ll grant this usually isn’t a photo outing. But I might want to carry camera gear to a tech event.
Been using Retrospective from Think Thank for more than 10 years now. Had a the 30 version first, but ended up selling it again because it was WAY too heavy. (If you're anything like me, you'll tend to just stuff it with gear you MIGHT need but never will, you know?!)
Now I have the Retrospective 10 in that gorgeous "green". Had it for around 8 or so years and brought it along to America, to Asia, to Africa, use it all the time in Europe. I cannot find any fault with this bag
I can comfortably fit my D850 with 105/1.4, 58/1.4, and a 28 or 35mm lens in the main compartment, with plenty of room for a spare battery (that camera easily does 1-1.5k shots on a single charge), lens wipes, my dust blower, a tablet (to show preview pictures via wifi), and even a small 32" Lastolite reflector (when you cram it into the front pouch!)
When traveling on city trips, I usually bring my Leica Q in the main compartment, alongside my ereader, mp3 player, headphones, tablet, sunglasses, hat, etc.
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