The first major update for the Panasonic GH6 has arrived, and it's all about ProRes. ProRes Raw external recording, and additional resolutions for internal ProRes recording.
When would you want to use these features? Jordan has answers. He also tells us what Panasonic should still add to the GH6.
Where is the ARTICLE? Once upon a time (Phil Ashley…) this site was THE site, respected, esteemed, cited, and even now most parts of those good old reviews are there to be ADMIRED. And now? Only fancy, funny videos for… yes: FOR WHO??? A firmware update of a professional camera is not intended to be 'watched' by TOYPHONE photographers… or do you think so?🤔
I find the videos very helpful, they convey things that may be less obvious in text. Sure, it would be good to have a written article with the same content. Perhaps you should volunteer :-)
Phil Askey, Ok… (so long time ago…) thanks for refreshing my memory, Eh (funny also your question; thanks to having brought a smile on my sad face and reassuring me not to be the last idiot on the Earth: there are worst ones, thanks a lot again to reassuring me 😉). I have nothing against funny videos, dear Gunnlaugur Gudmundsson but if they promise an ARTICLE (and on DPReview, once upon a time THE TEMPLE of the photography technique) then take your time to WRITE One, your time to read back rethink, correct, add and let it be read by your most trusted colleagues before to publish it; I'm quite sure that you would enjoy a deeper text not less than me (Iceland people are not superficial, I know it😉) Anderson, I do appreciate your balanced way to express your opinion (avoiding bizarre questions, THANKS). "Less obvious in text"?🤔I can hardly figure out how this could be possible. Volunteer?If I would be at the level of Phil Askey and have his gorgeous team supporting me, then yes😉
Hey Chris and Jordan, speaking of subscribing to your youtube channel, i tried clicking the "watch in Youtube" link so I could subscribe. Problem - nothing happens when I click that link therefore I can't get to the subscribe feature watching the video on this site.
Hi guys, since you probably have a lot more sway with Panasonic than us mere users, would you be so kind to request that Panasonic finally add the option to set Auto ISO to an Fn button? There's so many different things that can be added to Fn buttons, but oddly, Auto ISO isn't one of them.
The current location of Auto ISO is problematic since it's both hard and too easy to get to: Too hard - when you're at a higher manual ISO setting and you have to do a bunch of scrolling to reach it (vs a single Fn button press which would be instant) Too easy - when you're trying to quickly set your camera to the lowest manual ISO setting available, but accidentally engage Auto ISO instead (moving Auto ISO UP on the ISO menu screen rather than having it occupy the first slot in the row of ISO settings would mean it never gets accidentally engaged when scrolling between manual ISO values, and activating it from the ISO menu would be as simple as touching the new Auto ISO button!)
Every time I see a Jordan video, I learn something new about the incredible potential, our modern camera holds when it comes to video shooting. I learn new words and terms, and new ways of a potential use of a camera in a video shooting environment.
I don't shoot videos, so I will never use it, but I appreciate the effort.
Panasonic seem to be killing it in the video department. What a collection of tools this GS6 gives people that can appreciate it.
Nice. But about proper written review? I understand that its more difficult for you (as video is easier to do and edit), but these TV Reviews are just not enough.
I saw that some of the latests reviews are done on other cameras which kinda make me think you dont love it as much as the S1H (or perhaps the latest Sony A7Vi which won the best overall camera under $2500). Dynamic range issue also dissapointed you.
So lets see the written review... how does it fare?
" I understand that its more difficult for you (as video is easier to do and edit) "
You seriously underestimate the work that goes into these videos, and seem to have overlooked that entirely different crews in different countries handle the written reviews vs the DPRTV video content. Chris & Jordan do mostly the latter, in Canada (with some input on the written reviews at times), and I think the Seattle office is currently a bit understaffed.
Hopefully the impending "record video to SSD" firmware update will unleash the higher bit-rates that SSDs provide versus HDMI, I would love to see true open-gate 6K 10-/12-bit at 60P, 120P, 240P, 300P and even higher fps at lower resolutions at those same bit-rates. As anyone shooting nature knows, there are plenty of fast-moving/high-speed subjects (read: lightning, insects, birds, etc.) that go unexplored by the community due to a lack of affordable imaging tools. There's a real need in the community and a ready-market for the GH6 to exploit, Panasonic and it's Lumix spokespersons need to stop poo-pooing their non-Hollywood/non-professional customers and embrace their citizen-science/-naturalist customers.
Also, there exists a dire need for pre-record (5-seconds minimum, please) and it needs to be provided-for/restored on this camera.
Oops, almost forgot, full functionality for their DMW-MS2 mic needs to be restored in their menus...the currently stripped-down "stereo"/"mono" selections are both undocumented and remove the multi-width choices and functionality of this exceptional mid-side microphone.
I do not understand how that should work. The GH6 has a USB 3.2 Gen 2 port with 10 GBit/s speed. An HDMI 2.0 port has a maximum speed of 14.4 Gbit/s. How should SSD be faster than HDMI? Or do I miss something?
My comments are not based on the speed of USB 3.2 nor HDMI 2.0 but rather the speed capabilities of a Ninja V+ vs an SSD. According to Apple's White Paper, ProRes RAW uses the same (maximum) bandwidth as their ProRes 422 HQ and their ProRes RAW HQ matches their ProRes 4444...
...well under the 14.4 and 10 Gb/s capabilities of HDMI 2.0 and USB-C 3.2. So, what's going on? My guess, based on how hot the Ninjas run, that there's a lot of internal processing going on.
Contrarily, a USB-C SSD (SATA or M.2) will have none of that internal computing overhead and will just have to be a bit bucket.
JordanDrake could you test it with regard to other Mirrorless Video Shooting Cameras. That way the magnitude of the issue could be noticed. Maybe it's minor, maybe it isn't.
Indeed - Denying the issue is imho done to safe sales of the GH6.
However its pretty severe. The issue is pretty well shown in DPJourney video - "THE PROBLEM with GH6 and why I didn’t review it". Direct link to YouTube: https://youtu.be/nyFLRSMR3M8
This sounds like the Nikon banding Issues. A problem that is only there is you look for it and only if you really press the sensor to fail.
If you read the comments under the, well explaining video, you hear from user that had never had the issue. Meaning it is NOT a 100% issue.
Also, I don't think any "professional" would ever get in such an extreme situation, where they have such a high contrast between highlights and shadows, without using an external light sauce.
"I don't think any "professional" would ever get in such an extreme situation, where they have such a high contrast between highlights and shadows, without using an external light sauce."
Well, what if the photographer wants to capture an image exactly for that contrast?
The DP journey shows a specific test to exploit a characteristic of the sensor tech. It would have been more substantial if it was shown with a usable shot that has been ruined. Hence reviewers do not mention it, as it's not a situation that someone would shoot. Have you seen the reviewers calling out red & blue ch clipping in stage lighting which is common in most cameras or stacked sensors having unfixable banding issues under artificial/changing lighting? If you are going to blow a straight hard edged highlights over 100% IRE and chronically under exposure you're subject at (20-30 IRE) in the interior then it seems like the GH6 is not going to be your camera, but you probably weren't even going to buy one.
Panasonic has been working on it for years. It's a bit surprising that they still haven't released it.
But for movies, most focus is still pulled manually ... no AF allowed. So while I hope to see PDAF in the next GX model, I don't know if the GH model really needed it so much ...
Being a Panasonic user has become very satisfying. Their cameras are great, and they work harder than most to make them better with firmware updates. The first years of digital, I wandered around between brands as new features were released. However, without really making a decision to go with Panasonic, I have the last 5-6 years only used their cameras. They simply work well for my photo and video work, and the way they are designed clearly shows that the people behind understand how photographers work.
Looking forward to B-RAW on the GH6. That will trigger me to buy one.
The firmware was just released on 7/5 Japan time and available on Panasonic’s website. Maybe the article date is to match for consistency. It’s 10AM on Tuesday in Japan already.
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