Can you get a great lens for $125? We tested the 7Artisans 55mm F1.4 to find out. How does this budget friendly lens compare to the medium- and high-end lenses we usually review?
I know that nobody reads anymore and it is dpreview's own video channel, but Ii would like to have a text that I can read, be it even just the pro's and the con's. Ploughing through 10 minutes talking is just a bit much involvement for a message that can be read in mostly half the time, with the added benefit that one can reread parts of it immediately. I am feeling more and more expelled from information when everything exclusively 'goes video'. But okay, that is something for dpreview staff in the first place. Still ..
Their videos will bring in more money via you tube that a written article, i would rather read than watch videos but i bet they'll be doing far more videos simply for earning more money as that's what it boils down to
jaberg, " The videos are here for those who enjoy, perhaps even prefer, them." LOL ! And why are not written articles there for those who enjoy, perhaps even prefer, them ? If people who prefer watching videos are more numerous, then I bow to them and I go and read elsewhere..., if possible...
For lenses like this, it would have been very helpful to shoot one or two frame at the full frame of the z7 sensor and show how much coverage is possible. For the future, please show that if your using a z7 with a fully manual APS-C lens.
I have this lens (and other cheap ones) and I print the photos I like and put them on the wall or in photo albums. When other people see them, they have no interest in what lens and camera I used or the settings. All they know is whether they like the photo or not. If they do, good. If they don't, that's okay too because I like them.
I think what's being said here is that even if you're on a budget, this might not be the best choice.
Sure, you can get some interesting effects but the "quirks" and "pitfalls" mentioned here are in reality, flaws. Hazy low contrast, lack of flat field, chromatic aberration, this is like a textbook of what a good lens should not do.
On the other hand, if you already have a good lens, and want to experiment with a not so good lens (I didn't say lousy, since this is DPR) this seems like a fun, inexpensive option. And like everything, it's built like a tank! I'm curious to try one.
Judging by the external design and specs I think it's just a C mount lens converted to other mounts, in other words it'd be worth less than $100 in C mount.
The era of cheap C-mount lenses being converted to mirrorless mounts is long gone, those offers never were even remotely as good as lenses like the one reviewed here. Despite its small faults at larger apertures, this is a decent lens—and stopped down to f/5.6 or f/8 the results seem close to perfect, you wouldn't be able to tell the result from those of a good, modern lens.
Many people have a completely different experience with lenses from 7Artisans (or TTArtisan, for that matter), finding them decent lenses which are well made, too.
I have a few of these type lenses. I do not pixel peep. I print large, i don't care about the edges. I print black and white. And i am very happy with them.
Well, I warned you Buy this lens and come back to me later
PS, you can get canon EF nifty fifty for same money, you get autofocus, excellent contrast and can get tack sharp at f2.8, or ef-m 22f2 that can do macroor FD 50 1m4 , at same money, I'm pretty sure nikon, and sony also got sub 200 dollars lens in their arsenal, or you can adapt the canon ef lens to any body you like
Did i forgot to mention you are supplied with allen key to align the lens? Apparently for 125 dollars they don't bother to align it and ask you to do it by yourself, the lens is horrible wide open, only isae at f2.8 to f4, otherwise it's mushy and strong CA you better off with smartphone camera
Alam12, let me tell you Sony 50mm/f1.8 OSS, has like 10x worse LoCA. And none of the cheap/old lenses has actually better performance in this regard or even close in sharpness. Also in my area it is almost not possible to find ANY good old lens at a good price. So it is not like I have tons of options. Just FYI. In addition what to do when people spend thousands over “modern” lenses and they come with “sample variations” and decentered? So it is not so black and white.
Everything costs the same in the long run, you can choose to pay in money, time, frustration, performance, longevity, or something completely out of left field that no one could have predicted. Regardless, you pay.
"Everything costs the same in the long run"—yes, but only in the aspect that in the long run we'll all be dead, and all that we do brings us closer to the date, no matter what it is we do.
Precisely Hubertus; when I was young and had an infinite amount of life ahead of me I didn’t mind futzing around and hunting for hidden value but I’m at the age now where my friends are starting to drop down dead without warning. My priorities have changed.
@MrBrightSide: I'm not young anymore, either, and I've lost companions already, too. Every death has just made it clearer to me that the one thing that counts is to have fun, optimally together with those who are still around, as long as it goes. For me, trying out cheap lenses with possibly nice results might just as well be part of just that. Even though my personal preference is more towards old manual lenses rather than new cheap lenses. That said, I love what some friends of mine are actually doing with these.
The lack of electronic communication with the camera is a significant downside, but the clickless aperture ring is a deal breaker. It means you have to take your eye away from the camera to set the aperture.
@idaho_x Surely not? There is no connection between the lens and body and therefore no path for the two to communicate any information. Or does this particular lens have a powered, electronically controlled aperture but no autofocus?
I think it is very obvious how it works, you just look through the viewfinder and you see what you get when you change f-stops. No? Why should you care for the exact f-stop value? Set the picture to your liking and shoot. Whatever the f-stop is, what is so hard to understand? If you really need to know and write it down just take a look. Not sure how exactly clicks will help you. Maybe you will remember all the time on which click you are, maybe this is how you like it. Anyway this is not a must.
On the other hand, you've invested a lot of money in a fancy new mirrorless camera -- is saving a couple of hundred on a lens in return for worse image quality and giving up all your convenience features (no autofocus, no exif, no aperture stops, no built in lens corrections) really such a bright idea in the long run?
In favor of 7artisans (&c) approach is the fact that even if you went out and bought a M-mount adapter and some nice Voigtlander lenses costing 4-5-6 times more, you still haven't won back the convenience features, and in a lot of cases in the IQ still suffers because the compact for-film-rangefinder designs aren't ideal for digital.
I'd say the stronger competition comes from adapted vintage lenses. I've been using my m42 Super-Takumar 35/3.5 on my Z6 and it's actually pretty good, works full frame, and costs about the same as the this 7Artisans including the adapter. I expect the 50/2, 85/1.9 etc. I have will also be fine.
Depending on how you shoot, the image quality you achieve isn't necessarily worse at all. Also, not everyone buys those cameras for their 'convenience features'—it's just that there are no cameras without them anymore, except maybe the Leica M. Adapting manual lenses is an option, too, but you won't get any designed for APS-C mounts, and you'd either have to use them wihtout getting their original field of view or buy a Speed Booster (which, of course, is a very interesting option with some advantages), and they're not necessarily better than current 7Artisans/TTArtisan designs, either.
There are almost no very fast vintage lenses ( f2 and below ) available outside of the 50mm range. Not to mention UWA, so China and Korean options are very welcome, especially in APS-C! Anyway it is not like in every part of the world you can just go and pick from an excellent selection of cheap and in good condition lenses! In my area there almost no good and cheap vintage lenses left! And almost never I see something below 28mm/f2.8. And quality old glass is much more expensive. So these kinds of lenses are like a lifeboat for the industry.
It's no coincidence that these companies tend to cluster around UWA and fast lenses for crop format. I guess what I'm musing about is whether the "dirt cheap" angle is really where they - and we - want to be, vs. a slower lens built to a higher level of quality: c.f. Handevision (Kipon) Iberit/Elegant series.
You don’t have to spend a lot of money. I bought a used Fuji for under $300 to use with cheap manual lenses like this for fun. The film simulations really work well with these imperfect lenses (as all film lenses used to be).
2-300 bucks for a used camera and a handful of $100 primes and you have a pretty fun “retro” system for pretty cheap.
The only issue I have with this 55mm 1.4 is that I think the TT artisan 50mm 1.2 is better and cheaper.
It was a pleasant surprise to see this lens reviewed by DPR! I bought my 7artisans 55mm F1.4 Mark II X-mount lens for my Fuji X-E4 a few months ago. There were no reviews out there to read, only maybe one or two purchaser reviews on sales websites. I remembered that the original was not so great so I hoped the Mark II would be much improved. It is! I'm delighted with this lens! It basically lives on my X-E4 and my other lenses (mostly third party manuals) just sit. Overall, it is a great deal, delivering excellent sharpness when closed down, and great bokeh near and far when opened up.
I'd echo that it's great to see DPReview found time to review budget lens like 7Artisans. Personally I'm frequently shooting with many cheap Chinese lens in parallel with quite pricy Voigtlander/Zeiss manual lens. When it comes to lens for compact APS-C cameras - my priority list is: smaller size, interesting image rendering, decent mechanical quality, and only the last one is the price. It was highly surprising many times how good are some of these budget lens in practical use - they often deliver great shooting experience and resulting pictures. I'd say - these budget lens aren't meant to deliver photo perfection, they rather are making cool and interesting photo experience much more affordable. It's personal choice for everyone what equipment makes your shooting process enjoyable.
Lastly, when I check numerous online galleries of shots taken with these budget lens, it unveils how good the results can be if people focus more on shooting techniques and composition, rather than seeking for more optically perfect lens.
If you look at the last test shots you see that the focus in the middle is somewhere totally different than the focus at the edge. So, repro photo at F1.4 is not its forte.
Bu. if you look at the first Roosevelt Elk image (number 10) then you can see that both the elks and the bushes to the left and right are sharp, even if it is F1.4. That is impossible if the plane is plane. So, there you take advantage of the curved plane.
Roland, I am aware of all you say, even about the shape of the lens field curvature, better suited to shoot within a sphere. I was joking. Is your sense of humor... flat, today ? ;-)
for that kind of money, or a LOT less there is a lot of good old manual focus lenses out there, a Canon FDn 50F1,4 is $50, just put a cheap eBay adaptor on it and leave it on ..if F1.7 F1.8 or F2 is fine they can be had for a lot less ..the FD 50 F1.4 has a more modern look pretty sharp and punchy color .my Minolta Rokkor F1.7 55mm FP has a much older look more film-like look..the prices are going up, the days of getting a lens like my Fujinon 55mm F1.8 for $9 inc shipping and a free SLR attached are few and far between now
I think many people went that way already when mirrorless cameras just appeared, and lens assortment was extremely limited. The biggest downside of adapting DSLR lens is the increased size of resulting set. Also compact lens that adapt nice are typically quickly grow in price : ) From the other hand the 50mm focal length is probably one of most mass produced, that's why there are so many alternatives, and yes it makes sense to consider having a few adapted DSLR lens for a cost of dedicated mirrorless lens.
this lens is not much smaller than an adapted SLR lens ,,65mm long compared to 72mm for the canon FD50+ adaptor so just over 1/4 of an inch longer yes even with today's prices you can pick up a good 28 a 35 a 50 and a 135 and have change
To repeat myself: There are almost no very fast vintage lenses ( f2 and below ) outside of the 50mm range. Not to mention UWA, so China and Korean options are very welcome, especially in APS-C! Anyway it is not like in every part of the world you can just go and pick from an excellent selection of cheap and in good condition lenses! In my area there almost no good and cheap vintage lenses left! And almost never I see something below 28mm/f2.8. And quality old glass is much more expensive. So these kinds of lenses are like a lifeboat for the industry.
If image 31 in the sample gallery (which is what I assume you are referring to) had been taken on a day with a clear blue sky, there probably wouldn't be enough LoCa to be noticeable. So LoCa is very well behaved; it only adds color to your photograph when you don't already have a blue sky for color.
If this is heavy LoCA you need to see Sony 50mm/f1.8 OSS and some other "brand lenses" wth higher prices! In mentioned picture you really need to search for it to see it! This is 1 click to fix it. I mean you really need to try harder to make point from this example.
It's a common lens trait in wide-aperture lenses, regardless of cost. Nothing to fault the 7artisans lens for specifically, but worth pointing out all the same.
These are are all really nice winter shots! I grew up in a place that has real winters, SLC Utah, so these make me a little sentimental for the Wasatch Mountains. I now live outside of Seattle. It snows once a year, usually, and the whole area closes down for a week over 8 inches of snow :-D and 20 degrees Fahrenheit temps make PNW transplants from California pretty much shrivel up and die for two weeks..
Meanwhile, a shootout between a lens like this and the TTArtisans 50mm f1.2 would be interesting, as it seems my copy of same makes for sharper pictures than the lens reviewed above. However I suspect copy variation to be a significant factor, too.
Nice metaphor in your first paragraph. My story is the reverse of that. I lived where the temperature got down to 25 below 0 Fahrenheit. When I moved to California it was like a flower blooming. I don't know who buys lenses like these, unless they are collectors. I only buy lenses I need to take the photos I want to take. For only about $100 more someone can buy a much better lens.
I recently bought the Ttartisan 50mm f1.2 aps-c lens that came out last year and it sells for $98. Based on this review I would say the Ttartisan is as good if not better and a bit less expensive.
I bought one, too, just for fun. It's a Sonnar formula, rather than a double-gauss, like nearly all other 50mm camera lenses, and I wanted to give it a whirl.
Like this 7Artisans 55mm, the TTArtisan 50/1.2 has a ton of field curvature. I wonder if that's common with these inexpensive models? It won't bother me with portraits, which is primarily what I bought it for, but I don't think I'll use this lens much for architecture or landscapes.
Otherwise, it's not bad at all. Center sharpness, especially, is surprisingly good, especially when stopped down a bit.
From my experience with the 7Artisans 35mm 0.95 for aps-c on the Z50 echos the review of this 55mm. Low contrast wide open, sharp enough, wacky field curvature, nice bokeh.
I pay 30 euros per month for unlimited internet with 1 Gb/s fiber connection, and 16 euros per month for 5G cellphone with unlimited data. Total : 46 euros, about 66 Canadian Dollars.
I'm sure you can work out why it would cost more to provide internet and mobile phone service in a country the size of Canada vs a country the size of France. And then to top it off, France has twice as many customers.
As bad as prices are in the USA, apparently it is even worse in Canada. More expensive, worse plans, fewer options. Kinda like domestic air travel, don't hear Canadians saying good things there either. Not an anti-Canada post, just a few things that are not all roses and sunshine.
In Russia it is 1300 roubles per month for unlimited home internet (router comes for free) 300mbs and unlimited cell phone internet for 3 cell phones, family plan (plus voice and massages, enough that I never come close to the limit)
Well then it sounds like we’ve been lied to in North America and it’s probably just businesses ripping us off through lack of competition and poor governance.
I’ve just bought a full frame Meike 50mm f1.7 manual lens. Far cheaper than this 7Artisans lens I think. Never actually wanted a 50mm lens but had a £20 Amazon gift card for Christmas and I do like spending my daughter’s inheritance. It’s good fun and the manual aperture and focussing slows my photography down when I feel in that kind of mood. Like it more than I thought I would, so if photographers have not experienced a manual lens on a digital camera, something cheap like this may be an enjoyable experience. The Meike does seem to have better optics than the lens tested as long as you don’t have a decentred one.
I much rather enjoy using vintage lenses that cost even less, for example helios 44. Those lenses have already been produced, so you are carbon neutral when you use them, instead of promoting the manufacturing of new trash (might be a bit harsh, it is still a functional lens, but there are so many better used lenses)
Hahah saving carbon emission by using old lenses ....... , there are not so many better used/old/vintage/cheaper lenses on the market. Maybe at some places in the world, but we have like millions new ILCs sold every year, so no way to feed this market with vintage lenses. Aside from lacking focal lengths and speed/f-stop!
Beginner professionals (shoot for money)? Abs no. Buf for beginer amateurs? I think it's actually a good choice. Cheap, lots of fun to shoot, lot of things to learn along the way, interesting characteristics...
Finally, DPR deigned to come down from their exalted heights and pay a little attention to lenses that anyone can afford. I have some 7 artisans and TT artisan lenses, and I find the latter better so I hope DPR reviews some of them too.
Interesting and fun to try but ALSO why not make an episode with old lenses, say Nikon AIS lenses or even older, they can be had for a song sometime, Try the Nikkor 28mm F2 AIS or I can send you my 1960 (!) Nikkor 5.8 cm Auto (I'm in Canada), a very similar lens to what you just tested, I paid $25 for it 15 years ago, just for a fun comparison.
Vintage lenses can have a lot going for them. It's certainly neat to grab the 55mm f/1.7 MC Rokkor PF that I shot in Highscool and used to be my Dad's back in the day. There's a lot of history--even personal history--in that lens.
That said, one strength of APS-C manual lenses like this is that they tend to be a lot smaller. Whatever advantages an adapted Nikkor or Rokkor or Pentax K or M has, the adapters add a lot of size, and the weight distribution is very front-heavy.
Good thing that they're both cheap enough that it isn't necessarily an either/or. An old Pentax-M 200 can't really be replaced by anything TTA or 7A makes, but the APS-C manuals often have significantly better wide angle options.
Vintage lens prices are all over the place. The Nikkor AI-S 50mm f/1.4 goes from between $80 and $300 lol. You also have to add in the 2.9cm spacer/adapter, which kinda sucks.
Vintage SLR lenses are great for portrait APS-C lenses, but for anything normal or wide they get expensive and slow. They make a lot of sense for FF digital cameras though
For the Sony APSC platform don't fill up your fuel tank for 2 more weeks and buy the fantastic Sigma 56mm F1.4 AF, Best and sharpest portrait lens around.
Sure, do not fly your private jet this week, then next week fly to Tokyo and get a set of Z9/A1/R3 and their 3x f2.8 zooms + 3-5x ultra fast primes, and some accessories like cards, flash etc. Then fly back to Manhattan and write reviews on eye AF and tracking performance. :D
Great to see a review of a lens category rarely reviewed by DPR - namely the low cost, third-party, wide aperture, manual focus lenses. We've seen so many PR announcements for this category of lens on this site but that's as far as it goes.
It would be interesting to see perhaps an ultra-wide angle lens review from this or another third-party manufacturer or perhaps a shoot out as this is maybe where these lenses could work for many photographers. It would also be interesting to see a review of an autofocus convertors for mirrorless from the likes of Techart or Fotodiox etc.
Well what it does really represents it's value. These kind of lenses are like that. The biggest problem with cheap lenses that especially portre it is hard to live without AF especially today's cam's which can focus on the eye you will loose one of the best capabilities of your cam... The only place where cheap lenses has place are the wide angel especially fish-eye....
True, but sometimes it's rewarding to slow down and do the work yourself. It's more engagement in the overall process of taking pictures, and not letting the camera do everything. It's not for everyone or every situation, but a lens like this can be very enjoyable.
Leicas don't have AF or eye detect either, and they seem to do alright...and certainly aren't cheap.
So when I bought my Fuji (old used X-E2), it was my second camera system, and I didn't want to sell out of the first. So I made a promise to myself to only use adapted and cheap manual lenses, so costs weren't too duplicated. It's been fun. I shoot as a hobby rather than profession, and the process matters, too. I like my AF, but it's also enjoyable sometimes to go manual, even for portrait length lenses with shallow depth of field. With tools like peaking and magnification and plain old chimping, it's never been easier to get good results with manual lenses. A wonderful time for both/and.
I'll add, I'm a huge fan of dirt cheap manual fish-eye lenses. The Pergear one is a minuscule pancake; so small that if I'm wearing mittens they could easily wind up on the frame. Fish-eye is such a niche effect that I'm glad my lens was so inexpensive. If I want to spend money for a good lens, I want it rectilinear.
@rockjano Yes but I’ve got a Meike! How about that for exclusivity. More exclusive than a Leica, whose badge you see on many bulk purchased Panasonic lenses. More exclusive than a Ferrari.
When I was in a village off Istanbul, and the Bosphorus nearly entered the Black Sea, someone was sitting in the street behind a restauran while peeling shrips and ashes into the pile of it.
Besides that I would never buy a Chinese lense. I have bought a focal lenght reducer and the quality was so bad that it ruined the shutter of my camera. Great stuff!!
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