Ahhh. The eternal question: Do you use every ounce of your creativity, pushing cameras to their limits and producing wonderful images...even though many of your readers will abandon photography because they feel that they'll never be as good as you?
Or do you play it safe, stifle your artistic instincts and produce relatively neutral shots knowing that readers will love you for not setting the bar too high?

Seems like either way you lose.

xPhoenix - Yes I was exaggerating when I said the a7Riii ergonomics are sh*t. The positioning of the controls is fine (and I don't have any issues with Sony menus).

What I dislike about Sony ergos is that in my hands they just don't feel comfortable - I find the controls to be cramped, and imprecise compared to my DSLRs, and I feel my fingers pinched between the grip and the lens.

Some of the issues can be minimised by using a third-party base plate or a battery grip, but at the end of the day, I feel that Sony need to go back to the drawing board and redesign their cameras with the aid of good ergonomics experts.

I like the Panasonic,but it's just a bit *too* big and heavy for me. The ergonomics look good. I'll reserve judgement on the AF until I've had a chance to handle one. Either way, I'm unlikely to buy one, as I'm tied to Canon lenses and flashguns, so I'll probably wait (maybe forever) for Canon to wake up and release a pro-quality FF mirrorless.

Yeah, I agree on that. I did try out an a7riii when I was trying to lose some of the DSLR bulk and weight, but it didn't feel great in my hand, unfortunately. At this point in time, it'd take a heck of a lot for me to switch from Nikon to another brand. I've got some decent lenses, and really don't want to start over. I don't even like Nikon's own ML offering. I shoot a lot of wildlife, and it seems like most of these new ML cameras aren't geared towards that area.

and then compare to the pentax k1 and k1 ii. Because I am in the market for a camera, not a mirrorless camera or DSLR. Just a full frame weather sealed camera. PIxel shift is one option that only a few have. Please dont separate them based on mirror category.

$1000? I'm sure you can take these pictures with a camera that costs much less than $1000. But changing your perspective on the world is not worth my time. You apparently value image quality above all else so, you're right, this is a pointless camera for you.

The Nikon D5 and 1Dx say hold my beer.

@shigzeo - My point is, why would a pro change to a Panasonic if it does not have large differences from what he/she is now using? In some cases that still does not make a difference. I just attended a wedding where a pro was using a Nikon D300 and single old Nikon zoom to shoot the whole wedding.
You are considering changing formats, which is a huge difference. I think that you would be sacrificing IQ for operational speed, but it sounds like that is an acceptable tradeoff to you. I do not think the new 100MP GFX is going to be anything close to as fast as a S1R.

I moved down from larger format medium format backs to the GFX for operational speed. There was a small penalty in image quality, but one I was happy to make to speed up the most basic of all movements I needed.

I documented it briefly here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddEq0w9GXFw

But the GFX is really slow even compared to a D80 for macro and the S1 is speedier. The image quality difference between FF and GFX is minor, especially in macro when using the same lenses. But I came from the MF world and wanted to somewhat stay there. The S1R appears to be a good compromise for one like me that wants to keep a mirrorless for adapting to various lenses and mounts, of course not as well as a real back, and because of the large flange distance and subsequent shading, precludes the use of serious shifts.

People moved to Sony, from Nikon to Canon and vice versa. Some keep their gear for a long time, others do not. Pros span the gamut.

Indeed, if fuji built a camera as well as the SL, and worked on their UI design to work as nicely, their cameras would be at least twice as expensive. If they built and ordered as few cameras, they would have to add another 1000$ per camera. The idea that price is too expensive fails to take into so many factors.

I guess I am just puzzled as to who's really going to be buying all these new, crazy-expensive ML cameras. I don't think it's going to be the pros, and most everyone else is just using their cell phones. I know some enthusiasts are interested, but that's a pretty small market. I splurged when I bought my D850, and frankly, I see no reason to buy anything else for the foreseeable future.

@shigxeo - I do not concentrate on macro, but if I did, I would be leaning towards an 80D or Canon R with Canon non-IS 180mm/f3.5. My second lens choices would be either the Canon 100mm IS macro or the Sigma 105mm macro. The Sigma was the top rated macro lens in a test of 8 macro lenses by the British magazine Practical Photography. The Canon 180mm is a proven design over many years.
George Lepp has been a pro for 50 years and writes for Outdoor Photographer He uses Canon equipment and invented the double flash bracket for macro. He says most bad macro is done with bad technique and not equipment. Good luck!

Sony A9 $4500 and 1DXII doesn't look better either 😉

If more expensive camera look better than the deepest pocket would win all the photography contest

I forgot about that. Indeed the lack of flash synch for pixel shift is a bummer. Another issue is that after taking a shot in tether mode the G9 reverts certain settings like SS and aperture preview. This means that with every shot you need to turn it back on again. It is too labor intensive and could be fixed with a firmware update. However, Panasonic does not seem to be concerned with the tether functionality. This is a real pity because the G9 would otherwise be a great scientific instrument. I have reverted to using my Eos 600d because the G9 was such a nightmare to work with.

I am shocked with everyone here complaining about pixel shift. Just use a k1 if you want this seamless feature. It does it for you and the file is the same size. Pentax was first in this game and have all the patents. They have had ibis since like 2006.

@gravis92 -- Does the Pentax K-1 sync flash with pixel shift, like Olympus does with preset delay between captures to allow for recycling? @paleodawg was complaining about G9 tethering limitations, particularly with live view. How well does the K-1 perform in that function?

To a limit, phil. I'm not newby to photography.

I agree.

If You really cannot connect my "rant" with S1R, then there`s no use to explain.
cause you don`t need an explanation, You wanna have a win here.
That is how the internet has changed us as human beings, all the hate has turned us to something that spoils the world.
At least 11 persons did understand what I wrote, You did not. Hm..
As a professional I see cameras a bit different way.
From now on I will not comment anybody who does not use his own name.
I´m tired of anonymous shouting from the bushes.
Over and out.
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Definition of rant
intransitive verb
1 : to talk in a noisy, excited, or declamatory manner
2 : to scold vehemently

Not with a 1", but with any current FF camera ame good glass? I bet. However I am sure that electronic viewfinder must be a pleasure to use.