Top 10 sample galleries of the year #2: the Sony Alpha a9

Please look at the first gallery, the one that shows hockey etc

They tried to remove the green cast; which screwed the reds. On the other hand, the lighting looks luminescent to me, which is greenish.

That green cast is always the issue as far as I am concerned, and, yes, removing it does screw something else up.

That's not a green cast, that's the superior DR showing through. 😱

@giorgionerd you know they are OOC JPEG without any configuration when they just got the beta A9 and rushed out for shooting, right? But DPR did ACR RAW processing on many of them, what a difference! Do you remember a while ago this guy did a blind test among the top three sport cameras. In colors section, guess what? Overwhelming DPR viewers and elsewhere such as in original Youtube including many Canon and Nikon shooters picked up Sony A9 that generated the most pleasing skin tone ;-)

https://www.dpreview.com/videos/9193994762/blind-portrait-shootout-sony-a9-vs-canon-1dx-mark-ii-vs-nikon-d5

I took bunch of A9 shots in the PhotoPlus under harsh light condition and I only shoot in RAW, compared to four years' ago when I shot with 5D III in the same link below. I like the colors and skintones from Sony much better compared to yellowish and reddish colors and skin tones from 5D III that is very obvious.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/55485085@N04/albums/72157637021942154

My problem with his test is that mostly I don't like ANY of his three alternatives. The Nikon tends to be underexposed compared with the others. AND you have to consider that video is a mediating medium with its own colour cast. His test shows neither the magenta bias that many Sony users claim Canon has NOR the grey green skin many of us have wrestled with on Sony. This is an issue that Andrew Reid on EOSHD has tried to deal with with his pro-color adjustments. And a simple Google for Sony Green Tint makes it all too clear. As does this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s4jIixacE8&t=138s

Maybe Sony A9 has overcome those problems. I hope so. I hope the A7RIII has too, But given the history of denials, and my experience with several systems, including Sony, side by side, I'd need to see more. I got burned with the A7RII.

I would have known the shots in your link were Sony in a heartbeat. And they don't show the same characteristics of the flesh colours in that comparison test.

Here's a not blind test that mirrors my experience. Viewers can draw their own conclusions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQXg38qaRuY

I don't know A7s/II or video but we are taking still photos here. As long as you shoot in RAW you can adjust to whatever your taste. Every brand and camera has its color cast by default, Canon, Nikon or Sony but you can adjust. I use this customized profile with a few changes that works well for me, and I agreed A7r/II by default has bit green cast while A7 II and A9 and now A7r III basically don't from what I have seen.

http://www.fotograf-stockholm.nu/processing-sony-a7r-arw-raw-files-getting-rid-of-the-green-cast/

Nevertheless I have seen better default colors from A9 and now in A7r III. By any normal judgement, A7r III colors are very good

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-a7r-mark-iii-review/9

If not in your taste I cannot help but I prefer Sony colors over Canon colors I used to familiar with in last 10 years, landscape and even skin tone. Colors and skin tone are more personal preference.

So you don't like Michael the Maven blind test in skin tone because not in your way. I don't like his AF test either as he used the worst AF setting on A9 with the logic to mimic Canon and Nikon setting but they are very different. We just pickup whatever we prefer and at least talk with substances and merits. Give a try on A9 or A7r III, eye-AF rocks. It's just so much easier to take portrait photos even they are keep moving. All you need to do is just framing the person into whatever portion in VF including at edges, then press the button configured for eye-AF under AF-C, nailing on an eye. Game changer! Its AF is better than even D5 in my usage - mainly isolated moving subject in front such as in airshows, BIF and wildlife with its WIDE AF setting that works better than any DSLRs with 93% of AF coverage & tracking automatically. D5 maybe is still better in sport with busy background, or more sticky as DPR review shows. But I am not a sport PJ so largely irrelevant to me.

"So you don't like Michael the Maven blind test in skin tone because not in your way."

That's a complete misreading, and probably not by accident. I don't want to compare three skin tones none of which I like. I want to compare skin tones I like. And any video has its own colour properties. This is not rocket science.

I have tried Sony and I DO shoot Sony. It would be stupid of me to buy EVERY expensive camera in the Sony line to see if the issues I have with it disappear. Have YOU bought all the most expensive Canons?

I ALWAYS shoot in Raw. In Lightroom, Sony is harder work. It works better in Capture One. Besides, one point raised after that guy's comparison test on the DPReview page is that the "shooting in raw" argument is not an answer.

Far too often the argument in favour of Sony seems to be "colour science doesn't matter UNLESS it shows another brand is worse than my Sony." Anyhow, I've tried it. I still shoot Sony video. I may try again. But so far I'm not convinced.

I see you are working in TV and video business. In reality Sony and Panasonic are in higher position than Canon, no mention Nikon in professional video industry. My employer, one of premium financial companies in USA using Canon (also Sony) for employee photos (guess like many other companies) but only using Sony for video. I have noticed in every NBC Olympics game broadcasting in last almost 2 decades, at end with notion that they used Sony video cameras but with Canon lenses. NBC is USA exclusive broadcasting company contracted for Olympics games coverage.

Sony, Panasonic, and even Hitachi focused more on TV cameras (including studio cameras) for a long time. Sony introduced the DV format cameras, which got adopted by many programmes, but the Canon XL1 beat them out for a while. The Canon 5Ds changed the whole game again, and there were regular fights in my TV station over who could use the 5Ds for their programme. I shot one series of interview shows on three 5D MkIIIs. At the moment I shoot on Panasonic GH5, Sony A7SII and AX100 and 5D MkIV (although the Mark IV's 4K is a bit crippled). Sony has a new cheapish AX700 out. Canon have an even better (60fps) couple of cameras (XF400) out. The 5Ds really were game changers for some TV shows. I am so amazed to see even now so many BBC programmes still being shot on DV cameras. I have seen a couple of breathtakingly beautiful documentaries shot on Sony though including this one

https://vimeo.com/114078110

Shot on a Sony F55 (XAVC, SLOG2), mostly on a Cabrio 19-90mm lens.

5Ds/R is good in video? Hope you are not kidding. A7r II 4K is way better, right? ;-)
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-eos-5ds-sr/7

5D IV 4K video is disaster - 1.74x crop, strong rolling shutter and huge file m-jpeg format that is impractical to use in reality. A9 and A7r III demo how sharp of their 4K video with oversampling 6K and then downsize to 4K output.

All video cameras you mentioned are either consumer or prosumer grade. You should compare Sony AX1 to Canon XF400. But Sony is much leading in very high-end professional video camera in its FF-sensor CinaAlta line, such as 'Venice' going to launch in Feb with 6K video. Canon doesn't have FF sensor based professional video cameras yet.
https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sony-venice-will-full-frame-image-capture-day-one/

Sony already has 8K video camera UHC-8300 and FF CinaAlta version is coming while Canon is still working on prototype. In Tokyo Olympics game, it will be recorded in 8K.

https://www.theverge.com/2016/8/26/12656286/8k-tv-broadcasts-2020-olympics-sony-panasonic

Sony and Panasonic are still on pinnacle of video industry. Sony has sensor advantage however that provides to Panasonic. Sony announced its flagship CinaAlta line moved to FF sensor based. After 6K Venice, it will have 8K model before the 2020 Tokyo Olympics game. Canon is still not at the same level and its sensor is still lagging behind such as in DR in video as well.

Once again you are deliberately not understanding what I write, so why bother to have the conversation? In my experience few pros define themselves as much by brands as do enthusiasts.

No I am laughing when you praise 5Ds 1080-only video and perception Canon has even higher video model without knowing video industry as a whole. So just give a complete picture and reality. But again just use whatever you think is the best. But you should expect challenge in false statement such as bad colors, either not in your taste or you don't know how to process.

Point to where I said that. I mentioned Canon 5Ds as a plural of Canon 5D. And it was the Canon 5D that really let DSLR video making take off. Really, It's not a religion you know. Done wasting time with you.

OK good for you if 1080 and consumer and prosumer models are sufficient to you. But real high-end models are right there and industry is quickly moving, 8K soon. Yes TV broadcast in USA is still slow but I can see big difference between 1080 and 4K on my iMac 5K screen, and I am waiting iMac 8K.

https://www.cinema5d.com/bbc-planet-earth-ii-cinematography-explained/
BBC Planet Earth II 4K appears was videoed with Sony A7s II

Canon didn't have a good show in year 2017, that is why.

What?! Nobody cared about the 8 'different' camera galleries for cameras Canon released that were exactly the same device in a different shell? Shocking!

@ Michael Ma - Perhaps nobody cares what professionals use and that 'professionals' make up a small minority of users and users of this site?

More likely however those Canon professionals were busy looking at the Sony A9 gallery. I don't think Canon pros need to ogle photos on the internet taken by other people of gear they already use...

I think a big reason is people who love to hate Canikon congregate here and flock to anything they think might bring the giants down. Every new model is the next great hope, each followed by a letdown.

There's more to a system than pixel counts and AF points.

"There's more to a system than pixel counts and AF points."

Yeah in Canon land a 'system' is 8 new cameras, each one as exactly the same as the others. What an amazing 'system'.

I can see why all the 'pros' were gagging to look at the latest M100 gallery on DPR, or was it 77D...? Or perhaps 800D? Or the M6? Perhaps the M5? Or maybe the 200D? Nope, it must have been the protastic 6D II right?!

It's sad how much Canon sheep hang their hats on the idea that 'more pros shoot Canon' therefore 'they chose the pro choice'.

"It's obvious that Canon has not medaled in this race. Yet, the majority of professionals all over the world still shoot Canon. Quite an interesting phenomenon."

It is only interesting in that it demonstrates inertia. Nothing more.

Most Canon shooters still shoot Canon simply because that's where they started.

People starting over right now, or who do not mind the grief of switching systems, are tending to move to other manufacturers. Going forward, the simple reality is that people who make a living out of photography are having to be video content makers as well. Such people are embracing Sony and Panasonic.

Kirk Tuck is an excellent example.

The times are a changin...

All the Canon shooter are busy shooting, and not worried about the competition, as I said before Canon is king

@sofukinwhat i think canon's shooter busy trolling or defending themselves or attacking any other brand in photography websites.

To be fair, the pictures are OK, but could have been better with the appropriate lenses for the job. It will take time for Sony to catch up in that regard.

There are 16-35 GM, 24-70 GM, 70-200 GM, 100-400 GM and 400/2.8 GM by September. Other super-tele should be announced next year. Enough for enjoying the camera but yeah expensive.

if the number of comments for the D850 gallery is anything to go by then that would be my guess too.