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Everyone knows that Rokinon could not focus if a sharp object jumped up in front of it and tried to hit it. It's common knowledge.

@photomxp0

No difficulty saving out of Camera Raw v12.2.0.386.

@tvstaff
Right.....NURSE - bring the stronger medication.....😷

@tvstaff
This camera isn't about resolution. It is about being there at the event, capturing as many pictures as possible with a extremely high hitrate and sending them back to the news agency in ligthing speed - not matter what weather it is - 24/7 - 365. On the contrary, higher resolution is counterproductive, because you need to send more data in perhaps an already crowded e.g football arena.

The news are not news if they are old.

Thats the user for this camera and e.g. Nikon D6.

And if you need to hit a nail or two, it might work for that to:)

Olympus shut their China factories, now produces in Vietnam. My PenF is from Vietnam. I never had any quality issues with Olympus gear. Even the Malaysia made FL50 still works

I think tvstaff published his disgust for thia camera in every single comment section, I see it even in the recent Lomo cardboard camera!

Can't find anything groundbreaking as a sports pro camera. it does not even catch the much less expensive A9 in speed,IQ and AF.

Yes, IQ does not matter. Just photographs, image quality is secondary.

@Xerojay

//there's so much about this camera that is groundbreaking that it would be forgiven if the image quality isn't.//

So much? Can you indicate what you're referring to?

#Thoughts: Go watch Fro's comparison of the live view AF vs Sony A9II: https://youtu.be/VaYQ5yphhsE
Canon has basically matched Sony's best mirrorless for tracking, but they do it with dual cfexpress, and with 5.5k RAW, about 5x the battery life, and no rolling shutter. From what I can tell, it basically does everything as good or better than all other cameras, except for resolution.
It isn't for me, as I have no need for a big DSLR, but for many pro sports shooters it will be the top dog.

What did you have in mind regarding groundbreaking IQ? With image sensors as good as there are now, the traditional CMOS image sensor will not produce much more without some sort of tech breakthrough. No company has offered groundbreaking IQ in many years. Maybe the D800 was the last to do that. All of the rest has been incremental gains.

But still, the IQ of this 1DXIII beast is still amazing.

But as XeroJay points out, the 1DXIII has many other breakthroughs. Here's one neat trick it can do, found in the Canon white paper, and noticed by RedShark News:
Quite amazingly the 1DX Mark III can record 5.5K RAW to one CFexpress card while simultaneously recording a 4K MP4 file on the second. As long as C-log is selected the MP4 file is recorded at 10-bit colour precision, thus giving you a raw master and a 4K 'proxy'.

@Xerojay

Did you mean to tag me instead of Thoughts R Us?

Fro's an entertaining guy but he is visibly out of his depth in any technical discussion of gear. A better evaluation of the 1DXIII tracking can be found in both of Gordon Laing's videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDGq9oETIjg Stills shooting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZYK-09JLhM Video shooting

He described the LV shooting as 'doing a fair job' but 'not as quick or confident' as shooting through the viewfinder.
13.25in onwards.

He also shows an example of the rolling shutter from the camera which is quite noticeable:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDGq9oETIjg 18:11 in.

DPR has already measured the electronic shutter and it is about a stop and a third behind the A9/II.
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4458909
Surprising that you say the 1DXIII has no rolling shutter because you actually posted directly after Rishi's post in that thread giving this information.

Sorry I did mean to tag you;)

Anyhow, you do understand that a sensor readout of 1/60 sec is still about 4x faster than any other FF outside of the A9 realm, right? Also, the 1DXIII apparently utilizes this readout during 4k video capture; the A9 doesn't. That's a BIG plus for the Canon.
Edit: yeah just checked your link for the rolling shutter... It looks just as bad as the A9 in 4k video. I thought it was supposed to be miles better but I guess they flubbed that.

@Xerojay

The 1DXIII readout speed is comparatively fast, although the camera has a lower resolution sensor that is commonplace nowadays at 20mp.

Canon appears to acknowledge that this is an issue because they have made the claim that with the low pass filter removed it gives the same resolution as a 24mp sensor.

If you'd said the 1DXIII has the second fastest readout speed of any recent FF sensor I'd have agreed with you, but you said it had matched Sonys best mirrorless for tracking and it 'does everything as good or better than all other cameras', which just isn't true. :)

The video capabilities of the camera exceed anything else on the market below ≈$25K and are extremely impressive. The A9/II famously doesn't even have log profiles in video.

@Xerojay

//Edit: yeah just checked your link for the rolling shutter... It looks just as bad as the A9 in 4k video. I thought it was supposed to be miles better but I guess they flubbed that.//

The rolling shutter example is not in video, it's a stills shot @ 1/4000s. Much worse than the Sony.

That amount of rolling shutter for stills example really isn't that bad. No, it isn't A9, but it's a far more useable than any other FF. I used to use the silent shutter on the A7III, and that was my entire reason for going A9. I could live with the 1DXIII silent for wedding work... Thankfully I don't have to.
Now if the R5 or A7IV have that same ~1/60 silent readout, that will take some luster away from the A9

The A9 has 1/160 readout like the Rx10IV and maybe Sony's new phone.

Nothing wrong with the skintone in that image, it looks very realistic to me. As Mariano said, saturated does not equal fidel and close to reality.

@henrik...
Ummmmm - had an eye test recently....?

What are you talking about Canon has the best color scientists..

Anyone who wants to spend a lot of time learning how to correct colours in program needs to buy Sony.

henrik - It sounds like you are someone who likes the crazy over-saturated high contrast megacolours favoured by twitters and instagrammers. If that's what you want, you need a smartphone or a Panasonic bridge camera, not a Canon or a Nikon.

might want to get your monitor checked, Henrik.

blackcoffee - Skin tones look very natural to me too, I'm not overkeen on the "processed to taste" JPEGs though, many of which look a bit flat and "HDR".

What are you talking about???

On my monitor that photo's colours look extremely realistic.

What nonsense are you spouting Henrik. This is indoor with unknown quality artificial lights. This need to be colour corrected anyway. If you want white balanced pics you the to work it.

Most cameras have that AWB button when you shoot FYI.

Maybe Trump’s photographer uses PanaSony cameras and he actually has normal skin tone...

Don't worry, the excess oil will dissipate after a year and numerous cleanings.

Which Olympics?
Most probably not those of 2020... It won't be long before we get to hear that it will be either cancelled or held without public.

Yeah, keep spreading misinformation and paranoia

people, it's a flu with fancy name. when flu season will be over, it's back to business as usual, summer olympics will be there to joy in sport events from best athletes from the globe.
olymipcs have other bigger problem, that nobody wants to tak about openly, and that corporate criminal in form of extortions of major "sponsors", tax evasions etc..

The regular ‘ol flu has killed many thousands more than the Coronavirus.

HEIF — or High Efficiency Image File Format — is the still-image version of the HVEC — or H.265 — video format.

- Its main advantage is that photos saved in HEIF are roughly half the size of JPEGs, and of better quality. That means you can store twice as many photos on your memory card.

- HEIF offers other advantages over JPEG. It is not so much a file format as a container for files. A JPEG is a single image, but a HEIF can be a single image or a sequence of images.

- The format includes support for 10-bit deep color images, solving issues with banding in photos.

So there are many advantages to HEIF.

@paulo cortez The af-p was answer to canon stepper moror in STM and Nano USM lenses.

Yeah, Canon has not only one but _two_ AF systems developed with video in mind…

@Reza S Moghadam and @Sharlin yes, you are right. I had Canon cameras and lenses until 2010 and I forgot this evolution (STM and Nano) in the Canon focusing systems. Anyway, and if only for photography, the older lenses should be more than capable for this camera

@Andy Blanchard

//this is clearly intended as stills camera first and foremost.//

I don't agree. Everything points to Canon tasking this camera with double duty as an action/cinema cam, with the emphasis on cinema usage being paramount.

I think that's indicated by the sensor being improved at low ISO (sub 600 ISO) when most sports cams are shot at high ISO, and the inclusion of RAW video, which is a very high-end cinema feature. No sports journalist will ever shoot raw video - it's simply overkill for anything except feature film production.

This is a sensible strategy by Canon because EF is a widely used cinema mount and there are many more possible sales to filmmakers than sports action shooters, who represent a relatively small group.

Let's first see if there will be an Olympics this year before we start worrying about which camera brands are used to photograph it.

Foskito - Why are you trying to start another flame war?

Yes, serious professonals shooting at an event as important as the Olympics will want cameras that have large grips, widely spaced buttons and are able to take punishment by being knocked or dropped.

In short they needs cameras that are "bullet-proof", as well as having ultra-fast and accurate AF. So expect a lot of Canons, a fair number of Nikons - and maybe a few Sony a9ii's being tested out on minor events.

But that takes nothing away from the a9ii, which for less critical applications such as local sports, will be absolutely fine for most users, including professionals.

Horshack - Now you wouldn't be trying to spread paranoia about Covid-19, would you?

@entoman, It was paranoia about 4 weeks ago. We're on the cusp of the WHO declaring it a worldwide pandemic.

@Foskito

//Let’s see how many Sonys show at the Olympics sidelines. I bet no more than 5.//

Hang on, no more than 5 cameras - or 5 models?

If the former, you've allowed your Sony hatred to eat your brain. Sony released a 400/2.8 and 600/4 in the last two years - what kind of events do you think they made those lenses for?

I suggest you make good your claim. Go and place your bet and come back here and link to the betting slip. You should get excellent odds, with such a low number. They won't be able to wait to take your money.

The Olympics won't be canceled!

I couldn't care less about the camera brands used at the olympics... why should I? How does it affect me?

@entoman

//Foskito - Why are you trying to start another flame war?//

He literally posted this an hour ago: "Here we go again with the Sony fboy..."

https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/6840583173/interview-fujifilm-x100v-we-decided-we-could-change-more-in-the-fifth-generation?comment=5309570208

Some users on here have no self awareness at all.

Horshack - Let’s just try and keep things in perspective.

In winter 2008-9, over 13,000 people died from ordinary flu, in the UK alone. The UK in 2009 had a population of 62.26 million.

Covid-19 has so far killed about 2,750 people *worldwide*, of which 2,600 were in China. In 2020 China has a population of 1.386 *billion*...

Although Covid-19 is a serious threat, the death rate is very low, and the disease is less infectious than flu, SARS or MERS.

Viruses that cause respiratory disease typically fade away once the winter months are over, as in warmer conditions they survive for less time in the open.

So don’t expect Tokyo 2020 to be cancelled.

@entoman, This isn't influenza, and maintaining perspective works both ways. Even the most conservative estimates say Covid-19 has a general-population mortality rate of 2.3%. Multiply that by hundreds of millions of potential infections. And that's assuming there won't be mutations that are much more deadly. MERS had a mortality rate approaching 35%.

Entoman - FYI: The Tokyo marathon was cancelled last week due to Corvid19. Nobody thought that would be cancelled either.

As for death rate it is now up to 7% already instead and up from the 2% ratio they told us earlier last week. Many doctors think it might well go to over 10% in reality like the 1918 Spanish Flue. This is due to the fact that it is not yet clear what the actual death ratio of this virus actually is.

Many people are still ill and only a small percentage have been declared to have overcome this virus.

Now there is a huge breakout of this Corvid19 in South Korea and also in Italy.
I don't think the Olympcs are safe to be held at all and no descision over it has yet been made either. But the noise it might get cancelled gets louder and louder by the day now.

It won't be long before this will become a pandemic.

The OS2020 may well be cancelled afterall. It will much depend over what will happen over the coming weeks.

Horshack - All I'm saying is keep things in perspective. Don't use dpr to stir paranoia. The media always tries to whip everyone into a frenzy. There have already been several cases reported of people being physically attacked, just because they had contact with someone who had allegedly visited China. There is more than enough media-generated paranoia in the world already. Don't add to it.

If it's already worldwide pandemic, what's the point of canceling Olympics? It's not like you would be any safer in your home town.

kitsnet - Olympics won't be cancelled. Too much money invested in it for that to happen. If the virus is still prevalent in early summer, there will certainly be some restrictions on travel, but the Olympics will still go ahead.

@entoman, The more dire pandemic predictions aren't the most probable but characterizing the concern as paranoia is untenable at this stage. And it wont take anywhere near the worst-case scenario for the Olympics to be rescheduled - simply an abundance of caution by major nations in their efforts to contain the outbreak.

Robert, thanks for being a loyal follower.

Kitsnet - Staying in your hometown is actually safer as it will slow down the rate of how fast the disease is being spread. That is why these areas where the virus is now found are blocked off from the outside world.

The good news is that IF you survive you will be safe in the future for this specific virus. The problem is that even relatively healthy people also die of this virus and that this virus is not solely dangerous for the elderly or infants.

As for the OS being NOT cancelled.
I would not dare to say it will go on either

Tokyio Marathon was cancelled
Formula 1 in Bejing being cancelled
Formula 1 in Vietnam is still undecided

It may well that in the world of Formula 1 more money is being spend in a year as for the whole Olympics every 4 years. So that economic argument that the OS2020 will go on because of money involved is pretty doubtful.

Only a few athlets need to die in the aftermath due to Corvid19 and the whole Olympics would be in deep trouble for decades to come.

@Horshack I live in Singapore. We’re at 90 infections in a population on 5 million. Several of them walking distance from my house. No fatalities yet. I lived through SARS here too. I will tell you that the anxiety level is noticeably higher this time around... we’ve experienced runs on supermarkets this time for instance. The mortality rate may be lower, but ease of transmission is much higher. Hard to know where this will go...

@Docno, Thanks for taking the time to share what's happening in your neck of the woods.

They do not shift to Sony because if they did they have to buy exact same lenses for Sony. Not good business and professional sense. They'll stick with what they have until it totally give out on them

Mariano - I'm only guessing, but the sort of expensive sport lenses that you're talking about would probably be rented or supplied by the agency that the photographer works for, so no extra expense would be involved.

The reverse seems to be the case with (amateur) birders, who spend huge sums on exotic glass and pro bodies.

Like politics, we'll see who throws more money at the Olympics. I would expect Sony to provide sponsored trips and parties to unbiased endorsers and reviewers.

Docno - yes, it's hard to predict what will happen, but paranoia from some folk, and sensationalism by the media, are exactly what triggers the runs on supermarkets (and potential smash and grab riots) that you mention.

Duncan - "It may well that in the world of Formula 1 more money is being spent in a year as for the whole Olympics every 4 years. So that economic argument that the OS2020 will go on because of money involved is pretty doubtful. Only a few athletes need to die in the aftermath due to Covid19 and the whole Olympics would be in deep trouble for decades to come"

Yes, you've made some valid points there. I guess I'm just an optimist by nature, who utterly loathes the sensationalism of the media, who constantly peddle trouble and do everything in their power to turn everything into a headline-grabbing disaster.

The most likely scenario is that the Olympics will be rescheduled for a later date this year. Hopefully the disease will have fizzled out by early summer, as most respiratory diseases do.

Duncan, you are talking about half a year from now. The first wave of the pandemic by then will have reached everywhere. Besides, it will be summer.

“I would expect Sony to provide sponsored trips and parties to unbiased endorsers and reviewers.“

Lol exactly, emphasis in unbiased. 😂😂

Foskito - Unfortunately, we live in a world where all, or almost all manufacturers, employ and pay that terrible breed known as "influencers", (a.k.a. "ambassadors", "masters of light" etc.).

So the number of "unbiased" reviews on youtube etc is virtually nil.

Horshack that is western news spinning it to anti China sentiment. I'm here in Malaysia and cases are really not going anywhere. No where close to the the paranoia as in HK. It's hot here.

Unless there's a major cover up, no deaths reported here for awhile now.

Wash your hands often, don't touch your face and don't touch door handles, elbow your way in.