More Nikon D850 samples images added

Many people already have.

Oct 23, 2017permalink

osv

@carey - lol... i like the way that you label ooc jpegs as such, and i think that there is a lot of info to be gleaned from some of those shots.

for instance, i'd wonder about the level of purple fringing on the dress sequins: https://www.dpreview.com/sample-galleries/5682971467/nikon-d850-sample-gallery/0425854897

or why the af is close, but not quite right, on a number of photos: https://www.dpreview.com/sample-galleries/5682971467/nikon-d850-sample-gallery/7150386153

a lot of it is about lenses, not the d850, but as a platform evaluation, you can take those impressions over to the dpr canon/sony/etc. pages, and make comparisons.

everyday photos like this do have value, as part of the review.

Oct 23, 2017*permalink

SarahTerra

Because dpreview is run by millennial tech hipsters, not photographers and has been for several years now.

Oct 26, 2017permalink

Frankinidaho

Need to change the name of this website from DPReview to Nikon850Review.

Oct 23, 2017*permalink

Bilbo_bobbins

is this the D850 website? come on now surely there is more news out there

Oct 23, 2017permalink

Flat Earther

There is. If you go to Canon forum, their news is, where is our D850?

Oct 23, 2017permalink

sh10453

Sooooo many complaints!!! Too many samples, too much pushing of the D850, ...!
I found an easy way to cut viewing time by at least 50%.
Skip every picture that has a beard in it ... There .. you have it :)

Oct 23, 2017permalink

KoolKool

great image quality, too bad not a camera carry anywhere

Oct 23, 2017permalink

SarahTerra

There should be a built in flash, and arguing that a pop up would have "compromised" weather sealing is ridiculous. A 1985 Polaroid fit one on the side quite easily, and Nikon could too.

It is not for actual use, it is for controlling remotes, and it is something every pro needs.

Period.

Oct 22, 2017permalink

vaughanB

Thank you, I can see no advantage whatsoever of omitting the flash, its better to have one than not have one, I shoot photos for a living (400+ per day about 150 with onboard flash) and would never buy a camera with no pop up flash

Oct 23, 2017permalink

Franz Weber

If you get more than 400 bucks a day by not using the flash, opposed to 150 bucks while using the flash, that would be a reason to omit the flash

Oct 24, 2017*permalink

108

This gallery looks like a well thought attempt at selling the 850 to non-pro people thinking of buying into FF , not to existing FF owners . Most general public cases are covered with "affordable" lenses . I like the samples . The female models have beautiful regular faces , albeit with too much make up . Every time I think of buying FF , I look at these Nikons or the mirrorless Sony A7II ... tough choice

Oct 22, 2017permalink

V Ahrlenz

Great shots! And just when you thought digital photography could not reach any more pinnacles. Kudos to DPR. Whether you agree with the findings or not, this is still the most thorough and engaging web site for digital photography in the world.

That being said, I'm going back to 'Law & Order' now. I own the whole series. Got the official boxed DVD set. It's turning out that a closer look at the evidence indicates the suspect-at-large had a much different motive than the detectives at first assumed.

Oct 22, 2017*permalink

(unknown member)

davids8560, an interesting comment as always. It may well be the butler that did it, but I'd suggest following the money.

Oct 22, 2017permalink

V Ahrlenz

Quietrich Thanks for the kind words. And speaking of following money, I think there's gonna be a trail of money from my checking account to Nikon real soon!

But probably not for the new D850. See, some of my closest family members and friends have serious reservations about me getting one.

They all say all I'd end up doing is embarrassing the professionals if I were to have a new Nikon D850 hanging from around my neck. They'd really be angry if they ever saw a ridiculous, old, bald country bumpkin walking around with the same camera as them.

It'd be like those ridiculous beginner skiers on the bunny hill at Aspen using the latest Olympic-grade skis from Rossignol? If I had a D850 I'd look just like them. Ridiculous!

But it's okay. I get it. I will graciously go with a lesser model like the D750. It's a better camera for a poser like me. A lot of loser wanna-bes like me gravitate to the easier models like the D750 or D7500. It's just the way it is. Ask anybody!

Oct 23, 2017permalink

jack1976

Surprise, a new day and a new article about the D850...
We get it, it's a fantastic camera.
How about some posts on other brands? Fuji, Canon, Sony etc

Oct 22, 2017permalink

bowlofsoup

There were a lot of fuji samples in the past months.

Oct 23, 2017permalink

(unknown member)

DPR staff seems to be getting a hammering here, but it’s a self-inflicted wound; we really didn’t need yet more sample photos from this camera, but Amazon did require the clicks I guess. “Another D850 page – keep up the momentum!”

The guy who taught me about photography was wise, savvy and a sharp observer; and his advice was unequivocal – quality, not quantity. We really don’t need any more than 30 – 40 sample images, but they should properly represent the capabilities of the camera.

160 images in a sample gallery is just ludicrous, and serves neither Nikon, Amazon or us, the audience.

I’m sure the D850 is a very capable camera, so why does it require so many promotional pieces? (Hype?)

Oct 21, 2017permalink

Barbu

As editorial content goes, I heartily agree: adding more serves no purpose of demoing the camera.
Still, I have to remember two things:
1) I am a frequent visitor here (at least once per day, during workdays) so what is boring to me is still useful for the occasional visitors, especially the ones who came here to research on D850 as their next buy;
2) Some of the samples are uninteresting *to me*, while some other samples are simply amazing (again, to me) and deserve my applauses; this, combined with the fact that tastes differ amongst people, makes me think that the more samples, the better chance for everyone to catch something to their interest. Not in the least bit, again for research; the camera might be useful in the studio, but that doesn't tell me too much about how it fares when taking pics of airplanes (for example).
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Frankly, I prefer having more. I'm not worried (yet) about spam, but I really hope they won't repeat the eggregious thing they did with the A9.

Oct 22, 2017permalink

I don't care how many photos they upload, it's the disorganization. I wish they could put them in categories like landscape, portraits, event, and whatever it is when they take a camera over the weekend and shoot their friends in bars.
They could, of course, get rid of the shots with people looking pained, uncomfortable, and all dudes with luxuriant beards. I think they made their point about that long ago—yes, we understand you all have way too much testosterone running around in your systems and the only way to release the excess is through facial hair but it's kind of gross to look at if you're not in that milieu.

Oct 22, 2017permalink

//yes, we understand you all have way too much testosterone running around in your systems//

Or, it's more to do with living in Seattle where beards abound, but as to your other point about categorizing galleries, not a bad idea.

Oct 22, 2017permalink

It all depends on how your CMS system is configured. Could be easy, could be a huge pain for the photographers who have to use it, so don't make more work for yourselves.
I don't like to make personal comments but judging by the density of the beard shown in pictures, always intelligent comments, and the subtext of the photos you shoot, it's clear your hormone balance and your mental health are both well within normal limits.
I'm talking about the smiling, shiny-eyed guys whose beards are so thick and well groomed they look like they have torn off the top of someone's head and sewed it onto their chin. It's very disconcerting to those of us who live in regular America, but we're kind of timid down here in the lower 48....

Oct 22, 2017permalink

GuitarCamera Man

Sure are a lot of whiney complainers out there. The effort it takes to put this sampling of photos together is commendable and appreciated .

Oct 21, 2017*permalink

ChatBot

Whiney complainer here, I'd like to whine and complain about the third photo. If I were the performer and you thought that was a a photo my band might want to use, then I wouldn't be your repeat customer. The performer looks dorky. I imagine he doesn't look that bad for most of the concert.

Of course, if all you want to do is demonstrate the abilities of the camera, then it's a great shot! The photo does exactly what it was meant to do.

Oct 21, 2017permalink

I love that third photo. It shows how much work went into lighting, production values, costumes, and hair, the guy will never be Simon LeBon, but he looks pretty handsome. A little fill flash wouldn't be amiss, but of course, Nikon took that ability away..

Oct 22, 2017permalink

emfor

I like the shots regarding composition and exposure but I don't like most of the skin tones. Either too much green or to much magenta or looking like plastic. Is it the JPEG engine or settings?

Oct 21, 2017permalink

Chris_2017

DPreview: I'm not quite sure why you give sample photos for these high-end bodies with the cheaper lenses. Surely the people using the expensive bodies will be pretty much on the 1.4 and 2.8's exclusively, no? Isn't it only fair to put the appropriate lenses on the body to really show what it can do? Thanks.

Oct 21, 2017permalink

Actually, we've found that (our copy, at least) the 85mm F1.8G is more than sharp enough for the D850, provided focus accuracy is there. It's true that the 24-120mm F4 is less than ideal under some circumstances, but since it is a kit option for the D850, we decided we should show that as well.

Oct 21, 2017permalink

Hasa

So Chris, what would be better than the lenses they used: 24mm f1.8, 85mm f1.8, 85mm f1.4, 105mm f1.4, 105mm F2 DC ? I find it a very interesting set of lenses. I have the 24mm f1.8 and 85mm F1.8 and love them.

Oct 21, 2017permalink

And how do we know when a lens is sharp enough for this camera? What is the criteria? I know there's a Nyquist frequency and all that, but for someone who wants to extract the almost-medium-format quality from this camera, is there a lower acceptable limit for sharpness? Obviously the 24-120 won't do it...

Oct 22, 2017permalink

Chris_2017

I was just curious as to the reasoning behind it. Not saying it's right or wrong. If the 1.8 ones are sharp and as good as the 1.4s for reviewing such a major camera, then for sure, no problem. I still don't believe people will be using anything but the top-spec glass with this body though. I don't see bicycle review websites getting a fancy frame and putting some low or mid-level wheels on it for reviews, as they won't get the best ride from the bike if they did. Just maybe would have liked to see the 35 / 1.4 and 24 / 1.4 being used instead of their 1.8 counterparts. Maybe even some of the Sigmas too.

Oct 23, 2017permalink

I suspect that there's a lot of debate in every niche publication office about whether to pair high with low or should it be all high-high and low-low....
It also depends on what the editorial staff has available to them.
While one assumes that because they're part of Amazon they have a complete and well-maintained range of glass in their lens locker, it's also embarrassingly possible that all they have is a motley assemblage of cast-offs and leftovers that the staffers have managed to drag in from garage sales, used bins at the camera store, and their own personal collection.
The days when companies prided themselves on supplying workers with the best tools with which to do their jobs is just as much a victim of corporate greed as giving people the dignity of a full 60 minutes for lunch.

Oct 23, 2017permalink

Hasa

Thank you for taking the trouble to do low-iso, high-iso images with 24mm f1.8, 85mm f1.8, 85mm f1.4, 105mm f1.4, 105mm F2 DC. Very honest images. A number of OOC jpegs are too contrasty for my taste. I prefer more details in shadows.

Oct 21, 2017permalink

ovrebekk

Nice shots, they look good to me :)

As expected 'the Internet' has agreed they are rubbish, but that is to be expected ;)

Oct 21, 2017permalink

Ha thanks! Yes, the internet can be a fickle mistress.

Oct 21, 2017permalink

rhlpetrus

Unrelated to IQ per se, some shots here look like they were done by someone who has absolutely no knowledge about basic framing and composition concepts, or even good exposure technique. Someone getting a D850 would do a better job, for sure.

Oct 21, 2017permalink

I'm always looking to improve my technique.

Oct 21, 2017permalink

rev32

That's one of the things I like about you Carey and the other DPR writers. You are opening to learning and trying new things. But one person's treasure is another persons trash. You just can't please everyone!

Oct 21, 2017permalink

(unknown member)

What a great set of photos, please post more!

Oct 21, 2017permalink

rev32

Thanks! Still waiting for High School gym sports images. They will be critical in my decision making process. My 810 does well, but not quite well enough in that setting.

Oct 21, 2017permalink

thx1138

All I can say is that 24-120 VR is rubbish for this quality sensor. I wouldn't even use on the D810 let alone the D850.

Oct 21, 2017permalink

The Davinator

Agreed

Oct 21, 2017permalink

Vignes

well if you see a youtube star like hum hum cough cough... tattoo'd guy, he'll say any lens would be alright for D850.

Oct 21, 2017*permalink

kevin_r

Image 14/160 says "
Lens: Nikon AF-S Nikkor 105mm F1.4E ED
Details: 85 mm, 1/160 sec, f/1.8, ISO 64"
Which is it? Do I really have to check the EXIF data?

Oct 21, 2017permalink

Sorry for the error. Should be the 85mm F1. 8G. Will correct as soon as possible.

Oct 21, 2017permalink

(unknown member)

Wow! I had to double check if I was reading comments on a canon article, but alas it was a Nikon article.
Good effort to update your galleries, and people are free to look, critique, winge and whatever else I guess.

Oct 21, 2017permalink

sunilkumar

just say it..it is hard to put down camera like this gorgeous...

Oct 21, 2017permalink

Michael Ma

Jpegs look pretty damn average like it was shot with a 10-year-old camera.

Oct 21, 2017permalink

Spectro

DPR gallery colors science has been pretty consistent on different brands, they been doing the earth-tone desaturation quite a bit. Only the X-e3 sample was it a tad saturated and people here like saturation. Not sure about the 10 year old part.

Oct 21, 2017*permalink

I have to agree about how average the images look. They're nothing special. I've seen better photos from the 2006 Nikon D80.

Oct 21, 2017permalink

Don Kiyoti

Who knew that GI Joe with Kung-fu Grip was a real live person!

Oct 21, 2017permalink

Joed700

I would like to see DPreview shoot some photos with the Sigma 85mm f/1.4 Art. I don't think there are lenses out there that can completely resolve the entire 46MP of the D850. What a shame.

Oct 20, 2017*permalink

m_black

105 1.4 E

Oct 21, 2017permalink

Joed700

+ mgblack75 - Are you sure about that?
https://www.dxomark.com/lenses/brand-nikon-tamron-sigma/mounted_on-Nikon_D810-963/launched-between-1987-and-2017/mount_type-Nikon_F_FX/launch_price-from-0-to-13000-usd#hideAdvancedOptions=false&viewMode=list&yDataType=rankDxo

Oct 21, 2017permalink

m_black

@joed800, I don’t need DXO. I have the combo and can tell you from experience.

Oct 21, 2017permalink

robegio

Why bother showing these photos? I was looking forward to owning D850. Now I'm not too sure.

Oct 20, 2017permalink

Zoran K

Ditto!

Oct 21, 2017permalink

Michael Ma

I'm pretty sure some of these were shot with the iPhone.

Oct 21, 2017permalink

If these images had been taken with an iPhone, they would have been tagged as such.

Oct 21, 2017permalink

@Robegio: with a comment like that. It is certain. you don't need thiscamera. Anyone that would base their descision on test shots obviously has not developed a personal workflow. You know the specs of the sensor. the rest is up to the photographer.

Oct 21, 2017permalink

robegio

Good to know. Thanks!

Oct 22, 2017permalink

@Carey Rose: I'm sure Michael Ma was joking about the iPhone. He meant to say the photos look bad.

Oct 22, 2017permalink

@QuangFoto I can assure you I didn't miss what he meant, but thank you for your clarification.

Oct 22, 2017permalink

@Carey: To me, the first 26 photos aren't too hot. There are good photos you took after that. Sometimes less is more. I would just select _some_ good ones.

Oct 23, 2017permalink

brycesteiner

>>I would just select _some_ good ones.<<

I would too, but being a review site selecting only good ones is not necessarily what they want to do. Nikon would like only good ones!

Oct 23, 2017permalink

@brycesteiner: That's true. Good point.

Oct 23, 2017permalink

Sean65

Some very cool shots in there but unfortunately there are equal amounts of very uncool shots. What happened to the art of the 'photo edit'?

Oct 20, 2017*permalink

M Lammerse

I think it's more the art of showing what the camera is capable of in lots of different situations and under different conditions.

Well captured I would say.
Love the indoor shots, especially above ISO 1250 and up with the 35mm (concert) Gives me a good indication.

I miss however some beer shots though :-P

Oct 20, 2017permalink

John Koerner

Sorry, this whole sequence is stupid.
99% of 7 year old cameras could take the same shots as are presented here.
The idea is to present INCREDIBLE images that ONLY the D850 can take (that 99% of contemporary cameras could not) ... as opposed to publishing a bunch of common trash-images that any idiot could take with any camera.

Oct 21, 2017*permalink

//... as opposed to publishing a bunch of common trash-images that any idiot could take with any camera.//

Oof.

Oct 21, 2017permalink

Slaginfected

@John Koerner: I wonder what circumstances are needed to show stuff you can't do with any other camera. At least I have problems coming up with any idea. In the end it will be used like any other camera; however, it may render a few things easier because it is designed to be a tool not standing in your way, but delivering a good performance in whatever context you put it.

So, instead of just throwing complaints, maybe actually make suggestions what could be done better? If someone comes up to me and throws a "thats garbage u n00b!" at me I ignore them until they actually tell me what is going on or how to improve.

Oct 21, 2017permalink

John Koerner

What an ordinary set of snapshots, indistinguishable from cell phone shots. Fire every photographer who took them. My grandma could take better photos and she's dead. It's like a Canon PR person deliberately took these insipid, uninspired snapshots for Nikon's "benefit," lol.

Oct 20, 2017permalink

https://www.dpreview.com/members/0973937555/galleries

//My grandma could take better photos and she's dead.//

Honestly, my favorite comment on a gallery on this site so far.

Oct 21, 2017*permalink

The Davinator

Well...consider the source...LOL

Oct 21, 2017permalink

(unknown member)

Too bad your grandma didn't give you the wooden spoon treatment when you were a little un. That would've taught you some manners.

Oct 21, 2017permalink

http://www.thenaturephotographer.club/

Guessing your grandmother told you that photoslop filter you applied to your profile pic was cool too.

Oh and how about this gem of site.

Pretty awesome dude...

Oct 22, 2017permalink

Peter62

Image #20 - blurry face.

I am not impressed.

Oct 20, 2017permalink

sts2

Haters rejoice!

Oct 20, 2017permalink

M Lammerse

Most probable missed the word *sample*
If I want to see (over) edited images I would not check a serious review with enough material to show in almost every kind of condition what this camera is capable of.

Oct 20, 2017*permalink

zakaria

Party off.

Oct 20, 2017permalink

alcaher

Where are the dog´s pictures ?
two of the women on that sample gallery are dam beautiful . Its great when there are pictures of women and dogs in the sample gallery.

Oct 20, 2017permalink

Rick Knepper

Nevermind

Oct 20, 2017*permalink

PhotoKhan

This crowd SO needs some blind testing...

Oct 20, 2017permalink

J A C S

Will that cure blindness? :=)

Oct 20, 2017permalink

Gesture

Time to move on to other cameras.

Oct 20, 2017permalink

Old Cameras

Time to move on to new hobby.

Oct 21, 2017permalink

Flat Earther

Who ever took these sample images must be a Canon fanboy.

Oct 20, 2017permalink

J A C S

Right.

Oct 22, 2017permalink

Mehdi TR

nice one! :)))))

Oct 22, 2017permalink

HowaboutRAW

Many of those new sample images look to be lossy raws.

Please check.

Oct 20, 2017permalink

These are decent, but when you view at 100%, they're really not impressive. For those of us wanting better IQ than what's already available, I just don't see a reason to upgrade. The tech specs sound great, but all that extra resolution does not seem to be doing much in real life.

Oct 20, 2017*permalink

perhaps if you only shoot jpeg with consumer glass. I really don't see why people put so much weight on test shots. The people who need this type of sensor will get the most out of it. it is really just an step up in resolution. Skills will determine the difference in IQ with current sensors.

Oct 22, 2017permalink

Maybe, but I've seen the RAW files, too. They look like enlargements from a D500.

Oct 22, 2017permalink

Sorry as good as the D500 is, it is not close to matching this camera let alone far older FF options in critical IQ. I speak from experience. The D500 (an d any current APS-C)_ lags behind in edge detail tonal roll-off simply due to the fact that the sensor is less than half the size. Anyone that shots both FF and APS-C realizes FF offers a clear cut advantage as it relates to critical IQ. . Viewing test scenes at 100% is the source of a lot misconceptions regarding APS-C vs FF. Really not the same as shooting in real world conditions at all.

Oct 23, 2017*permalink

I don't really agree. Look at the sample shots at 1:1, and they are not impressive. I don't see this magical acuity or micro detail. Some will say it doesn't matter what they look like at full size, which is a somewhat valid point, but what about if you have to make a deep crop? You're left with nothing special.

I used to agree that FX was a lot better than DX, but with these latest cameras, the difference really isn't that significant. My two cents...

Oct 23, 2017permalink

Again, I would not base my opinion on this sensor from these test shots. This sensor requires a different level of shot discipline. People expecting this camera to be easy to shoot will be very disappointed. Those that want to get quick grabs wide open at 1.4 will be disappointed. However those of us that will be coupling this sensor with the likes of Zeiss Otus's and have developed strong shot discipline and workflow will appreciate what can be achieved with this sensor. Beside going MF there is not a better option available right now. These 45MP's are not for heavy cropping. They are for making large format or ultra prints. We are seeing 8k wall mounted art displays in galleries now.. No this is not a camera for the masses and most will not realize the benefits. If you are only going to own only one camera; this is not the one.

Oct 24, 2017*permalink

That makes sense. I need to crop a lot, and I don't make giant prints, so this just isn't for me. It does sound like a cool toy, though =)

Oct 24, 2017permalink

Infared

What I am seeing here allows me to be very happy with my 5DIV, all my "L" and Sigma Art glass. I am sure that this cool new Nikon bests my camera in every was...but I just do not need it. Most don't. Right?

Oct 20, 2017permalink

CaPi

Your camera is great..
So is this.. or rhe A-Series Sonys
Quality in general has become good enough
Just take your pic

Oct 20, 2017permalink

milkod2001

Those samples of family and friends just not justify Nikon D850. if you guys want to urge this site readers to buy this or any other camera through your affiliate links you should get professional photographers to give you samples not hipster wanna be artist average guy ( no offence).

Oct 20, 2017permalink

(unknown member)

Agree but I think the camera itself could be the culprit here...poor detail with textureless porcelain skin tone.

Oct 20, 2017permalink

NexLupus

@pepeta
Umm, no, it's not the camera, these are just snapshots not photographs. Unfortunately the images do not do justice to the D850 and what the camera is capable of.
But good try on your part to try and make it seem that way.
But keep practicing your trolling skills, your off to a good start ;)

Oct 20, 2017permalink

Daft Punk

DPR has a healthy number of young creative people. Such people often have beards, tattoos and bit of chunky jewellry.

The visceral hatred shown toward these young creatives is entertaining in its pompous, creepy volume. There seems to be a certain part of the DP forum demographic that looks down on young creatives. Such people probably also regard "liberal" as an insulting term.

I think the only explanation is simple jealousy. I wish I was young, with some cool tattoos and living in Seattle with a hot girlfriend, some creative friends and lots of cool camera gear.

Oct 20, 2017permalink

Dee Fitch

@ daft punk: Gavin McGinnis pretty much started the hipster movement and although he’s creative, he’s certainly not liberal in that freaky, social justice warrior, PC kind of way.

Oct 20, 2017permalink

milkod2001

@Daft Punk
i'm happy for all young creatives with hot girlfriends having beads or not. Honestly i prefer to see high res images of landscape or studio portraits shots done by pros where i could see all advantages of D850 over other cameras than some young creatives average shots.

Oct 21, 2017permalink

@milkod2001

//Those samples of family and friends//

...And motocross, and night skies, and staged portraits with lighting, and white water kayaking, and live music, and planned landscapes at sunrise...

//just not justify Nikon D850//

Totally fine. We are not here to sell cameras. We're here to help you decide which camera is right for you.

Oct 21, 2017permalink

(unknown member)

Maybe there's an opening for you milkod2001!
You could show us all how it's done!

Oct 21, 2017permalink

Zoran K

Disappointing photos with underwhelming result from the "the best DSLR on the market today".

Oct 20, 2017permalink