@Glen Barrington... Why heavens no, it's "C-L-E-A-R-L-Y" not a camera that you'd want to shoot over 400 iso with, let alone 1600 or 3200... as sooo many cameras on the market right now would just offer up superior high iso performance in comparison.

(shakes head)..... (((sigh)))

Another: look at image 26, a ISO 800, but comparing to the ooc jpg, it looks like the eyes region was pushed a bit... so it's more like a ISO 1600 quality, and still looking really great in my opinion.

I really thought of medium format cameras as being superior, but for me goes the same. When I look at these pictures I don't see anything that justifies that price. I mean, yeah it's got high resolution and all, but at ISO 800 it got almost more grain than a 6D at 1600. And its shadow recovery is also not exeptionally better than a Nikon D750.

No, as i tried to say.... the noise has become irrelevant in dpreview sample images, as they push shadows a lot "to taste". For example as i said, the image 26 is shot at ISO 800, but looking at the eye region, is more like if it was shot at ISO 1600...2000 image, because of pushing shadows in processing, and that reveals more noise, of course.

Look at studio comparison for that... and because of the larger sensor, will probably be about 1-2 stops better (at normalized view), but with double resolution ... compared to the 6D. If you compare it to A7RII, the difference will be smaller.

Nice try but nope. When I open the RAWs the picture is essentially the same (image 6 and 7). Dpreview adjustments were mostly adding slightly more contrast and saturation.
In the studio scene - nope it's not better at all - sampled down to 6D size it's almost the same quality. But because of the bigger sensor the quality of the grain should be actually much better - like when you compare a 6D to a 80D at the same size.
But when you look at ISO 6400 in the low light studio scene the faces of the X1D at 100% are just pixel mud. Really awful. I actually would expect a little more from a $9000 camera.

Yeah, we know all those fictional posts from fictional locations. Don't forget to include 'sent from my iPhone 8' sig.

@howaboutraw I would have needed three spare cards since they needed to be formatted inside the camera. Plus they were tethered to the counter, so it would just be shots of a crazy busy electronics store, nothing special. I was really there just to tinker and possibly get a new lens, I'm not buying MF. I went to the Fuji Square building too, which has a Fuji museum with all its film cameras and a really cool demo shop of every Fuji camera/lens including the GFX. Spent some time playing with it and various lenses, I like it, but like the X1d, the next gen will probably be when the camera really hits its stride.

Right now my 4 cards are in my two XT2's, split between video and stills, and my little macboook that I'm editing with doesn't have the space for me to offload my cards at the moment. If I get the chance I'll grab a few shots. All the big stores have Leica boutiques too, I was tinkering with the MF dslr they make, geez its big - not 645z big, but its huge. And its 2.5m Yen (about $25k). Ouch.

The guys in the shops here are really great, they want you to try everything and will stand there with you and run through all the functions, AF settings and so on. There was an Olympus rep at one shop and he took me through the EM1.2 so completely, it made me want to switch from Fuji on the spot, that's a badass camera. I miss real camera shops. Bic Camera is another, a 9-story building with everything electronic - phones, computers, appliances, cameras and so on. Its nirvana for a gadget junkie and you can get lost in there for hours as my wife can attest.

Cheers

Chris

@Oleg - Map Camera literally hade every brand's entire lens catalog, all current bodies, cabinets full of used gear and copies of big glass like the 600mm and 800mm canon lenses mounted on tripods to try out. They also stock tons of DSLR video stuff like cine lenses and external recorders, just so much to tinker with and so little time... Its great to see places like this still exist since there are so few big camera stores left in the US.

Trek of Joy,

The Leica DSLR, the body, is smaller than a Nikon D5.

The point is, if you have reasonably good access to high speed interweb connections, back up your raws to a cloud storage service. Gmail comes with 15GB of free cloud drive space.

I'm puzzled why one would take a long trip around Asia with a Macbook and digital cameras, but not also take significant external storage. But I certainly understand not getting samples from the Pentax, Fuji and Hasselblad.

The Olympus EM1 II only shoots 12 bit raws, may not matter to you, but one can see the difference.

It's ironic that "depth control" was actually just shooting wide open.

I don't find the original dog portrait (frontal view instead of side view) anymore.
It showed much better framing than the one left. Impressive shot - unfortunately removed (was it too good to be shown for free? Did Hasselblad buy it?)!

I am also satisfied with DoF portaits taken with Fuji 60/2.4 wide open on my X cam. No need for me to have 56/1.2 at all.

Would you mind elaborating on which particular samples? You can leave a comment on the individual photos. Thanks in advance.

Check out the Amazon reviews of the older $43k model

@zzzxtreme there aren't any with the "Verified Purchase" filter active.
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Strange :)

Yes falcon, that what makes em funny lol
Check out review by Andrew Li

I definitely mean OOC JPEGs in addition to RAWs. Both.

Out of camera jpg files aren't full sized. Yes, fedway, you can do it yourself if you have the patience to wait for such a large file to download. However, I think it likely that most people here won't bother and will rely on the poorly processed examples posted here.

We appreciate that, Dale, but isn't the point of using a RAW converter, rather than relying on the camera's processing, to make the most of the file's potential? No need for fine art (though some of the images are pretty nice!) but we want to know what the camera can do, so a little use of the sliders to tidy things up would be very helpful.

Adobe's "default" is not a level playing field as every camera seems to need a slightly different approach.

This link isn't broken....

Unlike yours.....

:-)

Actually I live in Portland and travel to LA and Seattle regularly. I love So Cal. My wife is from there and my daughter goes to College in the OC. My point is there is much more awesome scenery nearby Seattle then easily reached from an office in Downtown LA. So the DPR folks ave little exclude not to take a cool tool like this to where it can really shine.

Hmm....

Sounds like a $64,000 question maybe?

Why they chose different subjects than you would.

Maybe they'll answer.

You'd think this camera would beg for shooting landscapes....

There are many comments on the jpg file quality.

Magnar...

So you're saying if the jpgs don't have it ....

Then it's not there to start with?

@BJL DOF can indeed always be increased by stopping down, but with a penalty in slower shutter speed or increased sensitivity (ISO), which may or may not matter depending on what and how you are shooting. You don't get anything for nothing. Swings and roundabouts and all that.

Noise....

So you think the DR just isn't there at all?

Or it's discarded in the jpgs?

No but Steve Huff told me Hasselblad cameras are unpleasant to use in the past. Maybe with the addition of Ming Thein the user experience is great now 👍🏻

DPPMetro:

Going by these examples, in raw, not the DPR samples from Dec 2016, these Nittoh/Hasselblad lenses aren't optically remarkable, just very good, so sort of like the Pentax 645 lenses.

(As for the Fuji GFX system lenses, I've seen some variation, some seem amazing, and then some of the same model seem just very good, so I await more samples.)

Another factor regards the Pentax 645Z versus the X1D: The Pentax can shoot raw in the much more universal DNG file type.