Sony a1 sample gallery updated with new images, Raw conversions

Just for the fun of it, you should shoot with an iphone as well and post comparisons...

Apr 29, 2021permalink

Thematic

Zero point

The point of this gallery is to show what quality you get "with one of the fastest FF cameras ever produced"

There is no phone that can track subjects and keep up with sport s or moving objects like an A1 (and coincidentally the fastest phone and the only one that might even come close....is the forthcoming Sony Xperia 1 III)

Your comment is a stupid as someone saying on a F1 car forum "let's see how well that F1 car does on normal roads for comparison"

Zero point

Dpreview shows these galleries so that people get an idea of the picture quality of a camera "within its class with a certain set of features".... Not "to compare it to all cameras or anything that can take a picture."

Apr 30, 2021*permalink

Speaking about stupid (I am just quoting you), do you realize that most of the shots are stationary? Next, you missed the point of my comment but I will leave it like that.

May 1, 2021permalink

Thematic

All their galleries are like that.

Are you new here?

🤡

May 1, 2021permalink

Lightright

No comparison at all - 50MP vs. 12MP resolution-wise and detail-wise. The colors are on point in most scenes unless the difference in DR is wide where shooting in RAW comes to rescue. They have shot scenes with big difference in highlights and shadows demonstrates how a sports camera is capable of recording all that information from its sensor in higher resolution.

May 3, 2021permalink

http://indyelevenphoto.com/RW12/galleries/2021/page-107/

Speaking about colors... never mind.

May 3, 2021permalink

Brendan R

The Animal Eye AF on the bird shots is really impressing me, especially with the shots through all the branches.

Apr 29, 2021permalink

inti4444

There is huge potential in this camera.
But I won't and can't afford it as I am fine with what I have.
I understand the photographer needs to take muktiple different shots , I find the photos very uninspiring not much soul into them and no action photos.

Apr 29, 2021permalink

tvstaff

As for the AI competing with the 1DXMKIII you really should have posted some sports shots. We wonder if the claim is anywhere near true

Apr 27, 2021permalink

MILC man

you claim to have shot the a1, so why are you asking if it's true? post a link to what you shot.

here are a1 sports pics, from a simple internet search:

nobody cares about the 1dxmk3, canon has already announced an r3 sports milc, delivery date unknown of course.

Apr 28, 2021*permalink

AZheaven

Sony releases a monster $6,500 camera capable of 30fps. A wildlife/sports photographers dream. DPReview...here's some still life photo samples...SMH...

Apr 29, 2021permalink

tvstaff

Im really not impressed with the shots. I expected something closer to Fuji quality. Im dissapointed.

Apr 27, 2021permalink

onlyfreeman

Are there are any side by side comparisons of previous Sony JPEGs to the A1? The JPEGs appear to have improved somewhat, but I still think Adobe did a better job in almost every case, with apparently minimal edits?

Apr 27, 2021permalink

Just the studio scene I guess.

Apr 28, 2021permalink

SmilerGrogan

That dog needs an agent.

Apr 27, 2021permalink

Yes BossMan

DPR's a1 effort gets a A-Plus in my book.

Dubble Bubble, Aston Martin, Diamonds, Children, Pets, Etc..., Etc..., ADDING UP TO a very interesting cross section of SONY a1's icing on the cake technology.

This gallery is just more proof that today's camera technology is providing all photographers with the best cameras ever. Amazing how far we have advanced.

Dubble Bubble colors seem Right On.

Apr 26, 2021*permalink

Thoughts R Us

Always enjoy your posts for their unique wording.

Apr 27, 2021permalink

Bjoern Wunderlich

Will wait till 150MP A1X came out. LOL.

Apr 26, 2021permalink

SDKat

1 gp or nothing.

Apr 27, 2021permalink

ojos azules

Most pleasing colors ever to meet a human eye.

This one will fly of the shelves like hot cakes.

Apr 26, 2021permalink

That was funny.

Apr 29, 2021permalink

MistaHaid

it really becomes very obvious in this pictures... :(

Apr 26, 2021permalink

TomCodyPleasedToMeetYa

Nice images, though to me photos 3 and 23 look like the focus is not on the eye (compared to 28 or 74 for instance) . If you pixel peep and obsess about eye AF like a YouTuber that is... But since AF seems to be Sonys calling card and the online obsession of the day, I guess I would expect them all to be perfect.

Apr 26, 2021permalink

User1234567890

About Sony, I've heard upcoming Sigma 35 f1.4 is gonna outperform the Sony's.

Apr 26, 2021permalink

Leitz

Great news for Sony shooters then.

Apr 26, 2021permalink

Thematic

Not in AF

No sigma ever does

Too slow 🦥

Apr 27, 2021permalink

Ze De Boni

Hold your horses! Wasting your time just to let us know that your most fervent desires are unattainable

Apr 27, 2021permalink

Question for the DPR staff: Why do you process RAWs in Adobe Camera RAW instead of with the manufacturer tool or other options that use manufacturer profiles baked into the image (e.g. Capture One)?

Apr 26, 2021permalink

Leitz

I agree, Capture One is THE raw converter for Sony camera's.

Apr 26, 2021permalink

(unknown member)

I just looked through the gallery, and read the accompanying comments.... people have serious issues.

Apr 26, 2021permalink

I look at every picture also, so what are serious issues about comments?

Apr 26, 2021permalink

Djehuty

Isn't that like everything here?

Apr 26, 2021permalink

(unknown member)

@BackToNature, to quote

"The nose seems sharper than the eye"
"Fringing at 2.8, Is it aYongnuo 50mm?"
"What is going on on that concret stripe in the middle of the frame!?!?"
"what's wrong with the leaves in the center when zooming in ?"
"Using the loupe, you can even see plenty of detail through the haze. Three transmitting towers and a crane are clearly visible. Impressive."
"Artifacts visible in the tree and the background"
"Again ISO1000/ 1/500 for bird on the branch, blame on Sony menu maybe"
"Quite noisy for an out-of-cam JPG at ISO 1250"
"f11 for close to flat subject, again blame on Sony menus"
"You can also see nice artifacts under the bridge in the left edge."
"Anybody else think this photo looks back focused? By about an inch if the focus was supposed to be on the eye"
"Focus seems to be on the middle of the side of the middle sheep. Ok if that was the intent. Seems like eye focus would be desired."
"Same here, pretty high ISO for pretty static subject."

Apr 26, 2021permalink

(unknown member)

I read the above, and there are plenty more, and all i can think is, Get a life you sad sad individuals!!

Apr 26, 2021permalink

@Woz D Boss

That applies across all Camera Brands and or galleries. Most galleries are just generic images an nothing more. So all these wild comments, it's so great or not mostly has little to no meaning. IMO.

Apr 26, 2021permalink

Photodog2

People are just entertaining themselves. You think people actually come here for anything consequential?

Apr 26, 2021permalink

(unknown member)

I think people, in their own heads, feel like they are contributing something really profound with these statements. And that’s the scary bit.

Apr 26, 2021*permalink

Docno

@Woz. But you’re contributing something profound? Maybe you scare too easily... what’s the point in having a Comments section if people are not supposed to express their opinion about an item?

Apr 28, 2021permalink

(unknown member)

There is every point in providing a comments section, its up to an individual to have some self awareness and refrain from talking nonsense... unfortunately this trait is missing from large parts of the internet, as the quotes i posted above have proven.

I can only assume English isn't your first language because the line about me 'scaring too easily' means nothing, and isn't remotely relevant to anything i have said, again please refrain from talking nonsense, its quite easy once you get used to it.

Apr 28, 2021permalink

Docno

@Woz My English language capabilities are just fine, thanks. The issues seems to have more to do with your cognitive functioning. My comment was directly relevant to what you have said: "and that's the scary bit". Only one comment above mine. No problem ... I can't hold memory loss against you.

Apr 28, 2021permalink

(unknown member)

If your English language capabilities are just fine, you will understand what the term 'a figure of speech' means.

Apr 28, 2021permalink

Docno

Yeah, and I was leveraging your ‘figure of speech’ to make a point: that Comments sections are just that, a place for people to offer their comments on an issue. Nobody should be expecting Pulitzer Prize winning thought pieces in these ‘pages’

Apr 29, 2021permalink

mick232

Does it finally contain any images of moving subjects or even sports shots?

Apr 26, 2021permalink

There are tons available. Join the A1 Facebook group.

Apr 26, 2021permalink

mick232

Makes sense. I read DPR so I have to go elsewhere then to find relevant information.

Apr 26, 2021permalink

Before spending $6500 on a camera, yes, I suggest you research multiple sources and draw your own conclusion.

Apr 26, 2021permalink

Mr Bolton

For a camera billed specifically as being stellar at shooting sports with 30fps at full resolution on offer.. it's a valid criticism that we don't even see so much as the approaching bicycle tracking shot series here. At this point, they could have done some panning shots of cars on the highway or the like.

Otherwise, nice series. It's good to see them getting outside Seattle proper for a change of pace.

Apr 26, 2021permalink

zxaar

Dpr shall provide those samples. May be they are planning some article on af.

Apr 28, 2021permalink

bobabend

I am sure the A1 has many impressive design features, but it would be really helpful if DPReview would include a rating for reliability and customer support. No feature is helpful if it doesn't work properly and there is inferior support. My comments apply to all reviews and ratings in these categories could be based on comparative customer inputs across the brand. From my experience, those ratings would vary widely among manufacturers.

Apr 26, 2021permalink

Eric Hensel

" a rating for reliability and customer support."
Where would they get this info? The forums?

Apr 26, 2021permalink

How would this be measured, especially for an international audience? And how do you know the reliability of brand new products with a launch review?

All you would do is clog the site with people arguing why THEIR brand is more reliable and has better service, like "color science" on steroids.

Apr 26, 2021permalink

bobabend

Kind of like star ratings on Amazon or Google. I use them all the time to make purchase selections, as many folks do, and have found them to be very helpful most of the time.

Apr 26, 2021permalink

Star ratings only apply for established products and can be manipulated by dedicated actors.

Apr 26, 2021permalink

bobabend

Please read my post thoroughly. I suggested "across the brand" not necessarily on an individual new product, but even the individual product ratings work over time. While star ratings can be manipulated and misleading at times, they are generally of value, particularly if you read some of the reviews, so they can't be written off as evidenced by the fact that they are widely used.

Apr 26, 2021permalink

"While star ratings can be manipulated and misleading at times, "

It's rare that star rating aren't manipulated and misleading, especially regarding the Camera Industry. IMO. Boils down to hands on an that 15/30 day window for returns. That or rent it.

Apr 26, 2021permalink

Realistically, you'd see people o nDPReview tripping over themselves to vote for their favorite brand and vote down competitors, regardless of reality. Just a useless metric to argue over.

And DPReview would struggle to curate an editorial rating given product-specific attributes and manufacturers evolving quickly. For example someone might ding Tamron for older DSLR lenses despite their excellent recent products.

To me this all just sounds like "yes it rates really well but maybe this metric could be used to yank the A1 down to be closer to the competition?"

Apr 26, 2021permalink

Kind of like the people that click “I had it” on products even before they are release and/or available?

Yeah. The reality is the only real data available is from the individual manufacturers (and they’re not talking.) or a single source of a high volume of data like lens rentals. But even then the demographic of people renting different types of equipment means the data for comparative purposes may not be as relevant as you would want.

Apr 26, 2021*permalink

Eric Hensel

My experience in 60, or so, years of owning, driving, and making a living with mechanical/technical devices is buy what you want. All reports are ultimately anecdotal, and your experience is the only one that matters. Of course I'm being simplistic, and assuming a certain level of product, but personally, I've had good, and bad, luck, and they seldom followed the wisdom of aggregators like "Consumer Reports". People agonize over purchases they never make. Buy what you want, and can afford.

Apr 27, 2021permalink

Valens1

Well, reliability is difficult to gauge, especially on a new product. I guess they can include additional metrics, like the max shutter rating or something, and the materials used on the camera bodies. Also, I assume indicating where the product is made may provide a glimpse into long-term reliability. Not sure if Sony cameras are still made in Japan...

Apr 27, 2021permalink

Eric Hensel

"Also, I assume indicating where the product is made may provide a glimpse into long-term reliability." Not for the last 30 years, or so.

Apr 27, 2021permalink

f1point4andbethere

Anyone who looks at these colors and still says the usual overplayed Sony color straw argument is fooling themselves. These colors and skin tones look fantastic

Apr 26, 2021permalink

Don’t worry they will still keep repeating.

Apr 26, 2021permalink

(unknown member)

I don't, or will ever use Sony cameras, but i will visit the comments purely for the 'meh' 'disappointing' 'uninspiring' 'snapshots' that i can laugh at, as i do on every other sample image article.

ooooh i forgot the old Loca too, thats the latest buzzword.

Apr 26, 2021permalink

Handsome90

@Mikeran, no you are wrong! The skin tone looks too purple, red, green, yellow (choose one from the following list). Heard them all!

Edit: Sorry forgot to mention another criticism. These photos could have been taking with any camera!

Apr 26, 2021*permalink

"f1point4andbethere
Anyone who looks at these colors and still says the usual overplayed Sony color straw argument is fooling themselves. These colors and skin tones look fantastic"

Well unless you know the actual post processing, then any comments is pointless for any Camera Brand.

Apr 26, 2021permalink

f1point4andbethere

BackToNature: True, but preview states what was ooc jpeg and what was processed from raw, including the software used.

Apr 26, 2021permalink

@f1point4andbethere

I not just talking about whether it was Raw/jpeg/ and or which software used . But to the extent of which a given software was used. That's the key. Unless I was sitting in front of a person as they process each image, I really can't give any definitive conclusion. I loved the first 10/12 images, after that, pretty much standard fare. IMO.

I would state the same for most galleries' and most Camera Brands. Loved the astro shots from Chris with the new 14mm but that looked way better on my 4k tv then on my computer monitor. So sometimes a given gallery might look better on a person 4k TV as opposed to this.

Apr 26, 2021permalink

wats0n

The images have odd looking colors and tones. The images look like they were shot using a cheap 18-55 kit lens and a DSLR from
the early 2000s. Hate me all you want for seeing it this way and no I don’t hate Sony, but the picture just look Blah.

Apr 26, 2021*permalink

Right on cue...

Apr 26, 2021permalink

f1point4andbethere

Oh yeah, the 50mm f/1.2 shots definitely look like they were shot on the original Canon Rebel with 18-55 kit lens. Lol I don't know if wats0n is more clueless about photography or trolling

Apr 26, 2021permalink

Trolling as usual

Apr 26, 2021permalink

(unknown member)

Amazing, I called it and still he responds exactly as I predicted.... it’s too easy.

Apr 26, 2021permalink

(unknown member)

Looks like wats0n was playing along with you lot (sarcastically) and you took it for a real troll.
It gets murky when you’ve complained about trolling before any has even occurred - and thus a sub-thread about trolling unnecessarily emerges.

Apr 27, 2021*permalink