Sony a7 III Review

Yes probably, but DPR say they perdiodically readjust final value from time to time. I am not sure at all... It should NOT stay gold with such mechanical problem.

Recommend that your gear gets some air conditioning (daily).

I have experience from both caribien and Thailand. Need the gear to dry up in between.

Well, I was talking about the GH5 which this video review was shot on. But I saw a video on YouTube using the GH5 called, “Paris by night”, and the GH5 handled the low light great.

I've had the Sony for almost a year now. It's a great camera. No regrets moving from Canon. That said, Canon makes outstanding cameras and lenses.

@BazzzH...Uh...what??!! He's a portrait photographer and loves Sony. More so than he ever did when he shot Nikon. And your comment about Sony glass is delusional at best. They have excellent glass.

@Thomas: You should consider Canon 1D-X.

Heavy to put heavy lenses on it.
Big body for big hands.
No XQD either, CF and CFast.
12 fps and 4K.

XQD at this price point? Still has a buffer that makes Canon and Nikon peers look pretty lame. Small battery? Same life as Canikon competitors. Small body? Add a battery grip with 2x battery capacity.
Let's move on...

@AZheaven
if you are shooting a lot without turning on, off, review etc you get many more shots than what a camera is rated for, because it does not reflect the standard used. I can get more than 6,000 shots on a battery if I am simply shooting, i.e. sports with my A9. The A7 is supposed to be even better.

@AZheaven
of course one of the advantages of the EVF is that you can see your exposure real time, so you can see the histogram real time, you can also engage (I do all the time) zebra for the overexposed areas real time, so no need of chimping...

I hadn't even thought about renting it. Doh. That's a great idea. Thank you.

@wcan...NEVER said that. What I said and have been saying is, "if Nikon and Canon don't come out with a mirrorless full frame camera equal to or exceeding that of the A7iii they will be in trouble". And that comment also stands for price. The A7iii had to throw both Canon and Nikon for a loop in every respect.

That memory card is not uhs-2. Upgrade your memory card and all the faster higher quality settings will enable themselves.

:) Sure, that new Canon Dual Pixel AF is great, but my old 6D doesn't have it and I'm using LiveView for landscapes and macro all the time.

No fine tune necessary! The biggest reason I switched to mirrorless. Couldn't stand the continuing AF accuracy issues with my D7000, D7100 and D750, but there was no mirrorless alternative to match my needs until the A6300 came about. Smooth sailing after, even with adapted DSLR lenses!

@ecka84

Well yeah, any camera can focus on things that don't move. You need very advanced CDAF (Panasonic) or decent OSPDAF (everyone else) to focus on something moving.

I had both F/4 zooms and returned them. The 70-200mm was pretty bad at 200mm. Maybe I should have kept trying until I got "good copies", but I didn't want to waste all the time and effort for something that may never happen.
I am very happy for anyone who does get a good copy, but at the same time I am skeptical from my experience.
I have an old Canon 70-200/4 and it is superb. Some day I may get a metabones adapter for it.

"Steven Ar - Joined on Apr 9, 2018"

just another fake troll account.

The Photo store where I do business has reported to me that in their experience, the problem of uneven copies of lenses was much greater a couple of years ago, and has in their experience been remedied. My way of thinking is that the possibility of a poor copy is always there, no matter whose lenses. It's a real, if annoying, part of getting your kit to be as you want it to be. But if you don't stick with it til you get it right, unfortunately, it is you who are the loser.

Which is the troll?

Chris Niccolls - Joined Apr 28 2018.

OSV - The crybaby who calls everyone else a "Troll".

Well, a Google search shows the truth. It showed OSV is a "known troll" in every forum.
https://www.google.com/search?q=osv+troll+site:www.dpreview.com&rlz=1C1GGRV_enUS748US748&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiztp-fuPTaAhVnkuAKHVnbBSoQrQIIMigDMAA&biw=1600&bih=1094
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/60984191
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/59601666
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/59635478
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/57105153

When looking at posts where lenses are tested, I am surprised how many bad tests there are, so some might actually return good lenses.

If all the bad copies of lenses were not enough, now there are bad copies of the A7iii.
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/61090329

Sony says they are aware of this issue:
"I understand that you're having issues with the Eye AF function of your ILCE7M3 camera. We apologize for the inconvenience this has caused you. We want you to know that we appreciate you bringing this to our attention. Please be advised that Sony is aware of this issue, and this has been forwarded to our engineering team in Japan already."

Eye AF is way better than no eye AF with old teck DSLR cameras where the lenses have to be calibrated to get acceptable focus ... for Sony A7III this is probably just a software update.

@Steven Ar

Anyone who calls osv a troll is obviously a troll, but you put a cherry on the top by posting links and writing this: "If all the bad copies of lenses were not enough, now there are bad copies of the A7iii." Obvious troll is obvious.

@RubberDials

It was Sony that said there are bad copies of the A7iii. So you are accusing Sony of trolling Sony. Sony says there is a problem, you can't deny that.

EDIT: Geez! I just got a PM saying "RubberDials is another OSV puppet ID". Another?? I Googled "OSV RubberDials" and it sure a h3ll looks like you are the same or work together. You both respond to comments made to the other and use the same tone.
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/61032444
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/60913170
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/58981516

'EDIT: Geez! I just got a PM saying "RubberDials is another OSV puppet ID".'

No you didn't, unless you sent it to yourself from one of your other accounts.

I've reported your post. I doubt it will do any good - I mean - the mastering light account is still active. I've been a member of this site for more than a decade and have posted literally hundreds of thousands of words. Good luck trying to smear me with your crap.

@RubberDials

I hit a nerve. Google busted you. Google is great for digging up the truth and a quick search showed you and OSV are either same or work together. There are dozens and dozens of posts where you respond for each other, and also where both of you pounce on the same person or make the same argument. No denying that. Google is your friend, and Google reveals the truth.
With those Google search results, it as fair and accurate to say one of you is the other's "puppet" or at least you work in tandem.

It might be relative but you need to keep your comparisons within a product. Sure there are specialized sensors with more dynamic range but why should we care if they aren't available in an ILC? I'll wager there are some satellite sensors that are even better. Should we compare the latest ILCs to them?

The question should be how does this sensor compare to others currently available.

Edit:. @pentaust. I see you removed your comments about the sensor. Now you left my post hanging 😀

When a Sony A7 series camera is set up properly, you hardly have to visit the menues again. Real world use is a breeze, no matter hot summer days or freezing cold winter days or nights, when wearing gloves. No matter small or large lenses.

"Problems", like "the interface is useable but not as good as with some other cameras" are silly constructions, only of importance for those sitting in an armchair, figuring out what could be a problem with cameras that they don't own or use themselves. Such nay-sayers claim to be the best photographers around, but they will never show you anything from their work.

@pentaust Please show me a post I made where I haven't acknowledged short comings. Do I have implicit bias like every other human? Certainly, but I try to remain objective and rational. I'm certainly no apologist for Sony or any other brand. For example I prefer an EVF to and OVF but I don't think those who disagree with me are necessarily wrong. Each person has important and less important features that they want.

Regarding the menus I can't say that comparatively Sony's are any better or worse than any other ILCs because I don't have intimate experience with other ILC cameras. That's why I take the opinion of someone who uses multiple systems (brendon1000) with more weight than someone who doesn't (most trolls). I will say that I find the custom buttons, my menu and user defined function menu to make the actual menus moot - once setup I don't need to go to the menus.

Judging from the complaints I've seen on the Sony forum, from users, a pattern of questionable QC is developing for this particular body. And there are numerous... with new complaints about stuck shutters, multiple body returns, eye focus not working, stripes, color issues, pixel blinking and on and on.

I'd much rather buy the A7R lll or A9, not the A7 lll. Too many QC complaints. Unlike these two other bodies, the A7 lll is made in China which may be a contributing factor.

Lol just owning something doesn't mean squat ! My friend bought a 6D Mk II some time back and he hated it and would never recommend it to anyone who asked him. I use the Sony A7 III and find it much better than any of my previous cameras.

The main people having a problem are armchair trolls like you who have never ever used the camera for any real period of time :P

I have had 3 Sony A7 series cameras and I can tell you ergonomics were great, menu system wasn't the best of course but once I fully customized the camera it was never a problem and construction while not the best is still very good. None of my cameras are worse for wear after 100000+ shutter actuations. My 5d mk II has all the rubber parts fallen off after 95k shutters but that is considered a rugged body.

@ pentaust: I can live very well with Sony cameras and lenses, since they do what I want them to do. I have used other brands, and even had to jump ship because of repeated malfunctions and breakdowns with a brand that is judged as top professional. When you earn your money from photography, malfunction and repairs are much more expensive than just paying for repairs and replacements.

I am pragmatic when it comes to camera gear: There is no perfect camera or camera system. You can whine, you can bash a brand (like you do, over and over again), you can praise your brand (like you do), or you can hope for the best - nothing will change the fact that the camera is exactly as it is! If it does the job, well, fine! No need to go elsewhere.

Love and hate? For a camera or a brand? Come on, grow up!