OnePlus 3T camera review

yeah, look at it from a percentage point of view and it actually is quite a lot more money...

Feb 14, 2017permalink

ithehappy

Yes agreed. Pixel's camera performance is significantly better than this phone, its not "minor" improvement by any means, HUGE difference in camera images between these two.

Feb 14, 2017permalink

NJOceanView

Any reason the comparison tool shot wasn't included? That's a key element in readers' assessment of IQ, particularly vis-a-vis competitive offerings for any particular model.

Feb 12, 2017permalink

backstreetrover

This review does not address the biggest problem with the camera - you cannot take pictures of moving people , dogs etc indoors (and even sometimes outdoors). The moving objects will come out blurred. The shutter speed is consistently below 1/20 even with reasonable lighting. OIS prevents camera shake, but most people use a smartphone camera for taking pics of their kids, family etc. You can'get get a good picture as the slightest motion of the object will result in a blurred photo. Going to manual mode and setting shutter at around 1/60 fixes this, but who will go to manual mode and play with settings each time they need to shoot a picture?
I wish they had used a 12 megapixel sensor as they would have got larger pixels, and the phone wouldn't have to reduce shutter speed to get the same exposure.

Feb 12, 2017permalink

you get motion blur with virtually any smartphone in low light and auto mode, the OnePlus isn't any better or worse in that respect than its peers.

Feb 12, 2017permalink

(unknown member)

Exposure does not depend on megapixels. Though yes, with less megapixels slightly faster shutter speed with higher ISO should deliver the same amount of noise.

Feb 12, 2017permalink

backstreetrover

@Lars Rehm - The oneplus is miles worse. If it were only in low light, then it is acceptable. I don't consider indoors with plenty of bright lights as 'low light'. The OP 3t produces blur in conditions other cameras would have taken fine pictures. My old nexus 5 took 'usable' pictures in same conditions. You can search on the oneplus forums for all the owners complaining about the same problem.
@noisephotographer - less megapixels on same sensor size would result in much larger pixels able to capture much more light. You wouldn't need the shutter to remain open for so long such that a single pixel gets the same amount of light i.e. faster shutter speed can result in same true exposure.

Feb 12, 2017permalink

Simon Fung

just disable HDR and HQ, then i will be alright, it is the problem of multi-frame.

Feb 13, 2017permalink

zodiacfml

I think the behavior is intended. When the light is low, they have chosen to minimize the shutter speed as much as possible to maintain a low ISO setting since its focal length is short, it has OIS, and the sensor is High Res which is more vulnerable to noise.

I do agree with you preferring a lower resoltuion sensor as these cameras will not come close to resolve detail like a 12MP APS or full frame system. 8-12MP seems a good spec for reducing image size and cropping.

Feb 13, 2017permalink

I seriously did not notice the OnePlus to be any worse in my test than all the others and looking at the shutter speeds they look pretty normal for the respective conditions they were used in. I think what is suggested further above in this thread might be the problem: if you have HQ or HDR (especially the latter) activated and shoot in lower light there is an increased chance of ending up with motion blur on living subjects, so make sure you've got those turned off when shooting scenes with motion.

Feb 14, 2017permalink

Marty4650

Yet another nice phone.... for people who are into phones. It is sometimes interesting to read about these when patiently waiting for real camera and lens reviews.

Oh well.... I suppose Dpreview knows what they are doing.

Feb 12, 2017permalink

newe

Good zinger!

Feb 13, 2017permalink

Sorry.. but I take my Real camera and lenses with me on vacations and planned events... but I have my camera in my pocket EVERY SINGLE DAY. For times when I just want to capture a moment and not worry about it being in Nat'l Geo or getting printed to 20x30 for my wall - having the best phone in my pocket is more important... so I for one appreciate their focus on phones.! No one is forcing you to click the article....!

Feb 13, 2017permalink

Marty4650

This is a photography centric website, so we imagine these phones are used for taking high quality photos. And whenever DPreview reviews a phone they are careful to remind you they are only reviewing the camera portion, without any consideration for any of the other features. And their reviews specifically compare image quality from these devices, as if this is important for most buyers.

In reality, image quality is only important for a very few of them. Most of these camera phones are used for very casual photography where "better" image quality is not needed. Things like selfies, or taking snaps to text or post on social media. I sometims use my own phone to take photos of street signs so I can remember where I parked my car.

If best image quality counted a lot, then those camera phones with better image quality would have much larger market share. But they don't.

Feb 13, 2017permalink

Marty, there are all sorts of users and photographers out there, you should necessarily assume everybody uses smartphones like yourself. I know personally a lot of people who are quite obsessed about the image quality of their smartphones and who want both, a good smartphone with a good camera...that's the kind of people those reviews are for. If the only pictures you take on your smartphone are of street signs, then no, you probably don't care about this article :)

Feb 13, 2017permalink

Marty - I suggest you do some more research before signing off on camera phones as for selfies or social media snaps... there are plenty of photographs available that you would not be able to tell what they were taken with... its 2017 - 90% of folks use their smartphone to take photos with.. and they are quite amazing!

Feb 14, 2017permalink

Marty4650

Oh, I don't deny that at all.

Great photos are all about subject, composition, emotion and vision. They have very little to do with technical quality. There are some absolutely wonderful photo that were taken by all sorts of devices that were much more limited than a camera phone. That wasn't my point.

My point was... if you want technical quality.... which is something many Dpr users seem to want judging by the constant discussions here about "finding the best copy or a lens" or "why anything smaller than full frame is rubbish" then you should be using a real camera. After all, this is a site about gear, and not about art.

Given a choice between my camera and my phone, I use my camera for taking photos, and my phone for convenient snaps. And so do most other people here. Lets not pretend that professional photographers are showing up for wedding shoots with their iPhones only. Sure, it "can be done" but that doesn't make it a good idea to do it.

Feb 14, 2017permalink

Given a choice between the best "technical quality" and "stunning photo" - I'll take stunning photo any day! DPR HAS shifted their focus from "professional" community to professional plus amateur to now.. anyone who like photography... I don't see this as a bad thing as there are plenty of forum boards for all parties and I for one enjoy reading reviews about a $400 camera phone as well as a $4000 pro level lens... or even the $20000 camera!

BTW: If I was a professional wedding photographer - I'd probably STILL want to have the best possible camera phone in my pocket as well..

Feb 14, 2017permalink

Blue67

A camera in a phone is also a real camera. The best camera is the camera that you carry along. For normal daylight use, the difference in image quality with a regular DSLR is small. Of course, the phone camera is not suited for low light and sports, but hey, how often are you really taking photo's under those conditions?
In the right hands, great images can be produced.

Feb 14, 2017permalink

ChrisKramer1

Technical quality matters a great deal in smartphone photography precisely because of its extremely limited possibilities. The dream of any photographer is to have a smartphone of dslr quality and with reasonable zoom. The Microsoft Lumia and Apple's iphone 7have shown that this is not unrealistic.

By the way, the Oneplus3 is just as good as the Oneplus3t and can be bought second hand at a significantly lower price. It is also blisteringly fast (3gb RAM) and the operation is far slicker than my iphone 6plus and Samsung Galaxy 7 Edge, which often stutter when browsing. The fingerprint scanner is significantly less reliable than the iphone but better than the Samsung. Also, the 64gb is treated as a whole storage unit, unlike the Samsung, which splits storage between internal and sd card. This is significant, because not all apps support this (although Deezer, Spotify and the camera app do).

Photography-wise, I would always go with iphone because of the fantastic apps.

Feb 22, 2017permalink

Chris - agree with you.. but my Honor 8 takes some amazing photos as well, is also blistering fast, and there are tons of apps for Android that are great! For less than $200 - I can't believe folks are still spending over $700 for an iphone or galaxy...

Feb 22, 2017permalink

Shlomo Goldwasser

DPReview just made a post about how annoying it is to view other people's selfies, which is true, by the way.

But now we are offered another selfie device, arguably the king of selfies with 16mp and relatively low price.

I would like another option on this site, alongside the Leica filter, I would like a smartphone filter, which toggles to filter all related news.

Feb 12, 2017permalink

The OnePlus happens to have a high-resolution front camera but it's main camera is actually capable of capturing very decent images and that's what about 99% of this review is about.

Feb 12, 2017permalink

badi

about the selfie article... it's quite irrelevant here: you are making selfies (of yourself, obviously) and you look at your selfies. Win-win! What's not to like about the handsome self next to...everything? :))

Feb 13, 2017permalink

(unknown member)

I wouldn't compare smartphones via ISO image quality because every manufacturer defines ISO differently. I have seen samples from smartphones which had about the same brightness but a totally different exposure with nearly the same ISO.

Feb 12, 2017*permalink

I have the OnePlus3 (same camera module as above) and I would agree with this. The OnePlus3 seems especially bad in this regard. It is about a stop and a half less sensitive than my Panasonic camera and my wife's iphone 6/6s. She's often at ISO 64 when I'm at ISO 200. And In low light, my OP3 is at ISO 4000 when the Panasonic is at ISO 1600.

That said, it does do very good at these higher ISOs, so I don't know if they are mislabeled or what.

Feb 12, 2017permalink

StephanBG

Same aperture?

Feb 12, 2017permalink

Yes, I did a lot of comparisons because I noticed the ISO was much higher on the OP3 always. It's not shutter speed, either.

But, it's still a little cleaner in low light than my wife's 6s, even though it says it is using 1-2 stops higher ISO.

Feb 12, 2017*permalink

Modern smartphones do so much processing and algorithm wizardry that looking at ISOs is almost pointless.

Feb 12, 2017permalink

What about ISOs for DNG files?

Feb 12, 2017permalink

(unknown member)

Just for example first image here: http://www.businessinsider.com/lg-v10-camera-versus-dslr-camera-2016-1?IR=T/#both-cameras-do-great-outdoors-1
Both at ISO 50, but LG's shutter speed only 4.5 times faster although f/1.8 captures nearly 16 times as much light as f/7.1 per unit area. So either LG's image should have been overexposed or Nikon's image underexposed, but that's not the case.

Feb 12, 2017*permalink

mxx

Thanks for this thorough review!

Feb 12, 2017permalink

geniece

great

Feb 12, 2017permalink

Enginel

Only one back camera? In %current_year%?

Feb 12, 2017permalink

FantasticMrFox

Very unfortunate OnePlus departed from the excellent (and somewhat unique) design of the One and Two, and made the Three a Samsung from the front, and HTC from the back. Their phones are getting more expensive and more like any other flagship smartphone with every iteration.

Feb 12, 2017permalink

The OP3 was a great value at $399, which is the same price the 1 and 2 launched at. They departed a little bit with the 3T trying to raise prices a little bit. Still, the Samsung and HTC you compared to cost $600-800, so it's pretty hard to argue it isn't a great value.

Personally, I love the design on the 3 series.

Feb 12, 2017permalink

TonyPM

Lars, how was the trip to Spain?
Very nice pictures for a Smartphone.
Even makes Madrid look good....and I'm pretty tired of living there.

Feb 12, 2017permalink

haha, it wasn't really a trip as such...I am spending quite a lot of time there as well :)

Feb 12, 2017permalink

t_ramoska

Looks like samsung and HTC child :)

Feb 12, 2017permalink

"lets you easily forget about the lack of a card slot"

ummmm.... no the title is a camera review ... who in their right mind would get a camera without removable storage ? this otherwise nice phone at a fair price is as dead in the water and worthless to me as an iphone or google pixel

removable storage allows you backup and storage and easy offloading of images and content , as opposed to moving 64 or 128 gb tethered or wireless , theres a bs chore
when a phone lacks fundamentally useful standards like a audio port or an sd slot i can only pray that is is rejected in the marketplace for failing to meet the needs of its users

and its a shame really ... im someone who generally hates the cameras in cellphones ... but to be honest the one in this phone is very impressive ... the high iso and speed are great and iq impressive .... phones costing twice as much shoot half as well

Feb 12, 2017*permalink

sh10453

The presence of a MicroSD slot was one major reason I opted to get the Huawie Honor 8 for my recent upgrade.
The H8 is a powerful competitor to this phone, and at a much lower price. I consider the H 8 to be a much better phone actually.

Some mobile phone manufacturers seem to care less about adding a MicroSD card capability.
Is it their lack of understanding customers' needs? Is it arrogance? I don't know, but sooner or later they will find that they need to add removable storage capability if they don't want to lose too many customers.

Feb 12, 2017*permalink

AndersSJ

For most users I think syncing with USB or WiFi will be more than sufficient. After all most of the photos will end up on Instagram, Facebbok and Flickr - eventually.

Feb 12, 2017permalink

@ sh,.. im guided by the same principals ,i think many of those companies that abandon sensible entrenched standards as basic as a headphone jack or an sd card slot are following apples lead in denying its customer base simple usability & respect basic needs. somehow they're hoping wealth by association?... i vote with my wallet and see you do too , ....so thats 2.

@ anders.... perhaps but shoot a few videos ...and shoot for a few months of stills and im sure 64 or 128 gb can fill up quickly... i think being able to move data to a card like a 50 dollar micro SD 200 gb and being able to swap it out instantly as needed is a great convenience to the user . hit that wall in the field
and even assuming you have a place to offload or even a cloud option , you've got many minutes of effort to choose files to move or delete and possible data charges many plans though unlimited cap high speed at 2- 10 gb a month... so moving 50 or 100 gb is wildly impracticable imho

Feb 12, 2017*permalink

id buy an lg g5 for $400 or even a galaxy s7 for around $80 more. or even the KILLER ZTE AXON 7!

OP is still selling this phone for the SAME exact price when it was released 7 months ago. and yes the 3t is the same as the 3. just very minor tweaks. basically a some ploy or tactic by op. the phone is not selling. simple.

the phone has a 1080p screen. id never go back to 1080p after using qhd. you immediately see the difference when you see a 1080p screen. and using the battery life as an excuse is nonsense as the g5 and samsung both have better battery life. the g5 has swappable battery option and once you have that option you feel free. I run my screen at full brightness. I go from 0% to 100% in a minute. I slip the thin extra battery in my wallet. no fear of running out or looking for a wall outlet or carry a cable and charger. id never touch the op phones today.

Feb 12, 2017*permalink

after cyanogenmod left them they developed their own software. its not as polished as the G5 or GS7

lets not mention cameras. both the G5 and GS7 are the best out there. it all started with the LG G4 which I also have as a spare phone.

I wouldnt pay $450 for a1080p 7 month old tech phone with no memory slot. xiaomi has that area covered for less.

@AndersSJ btw, with todays cheap micro sd cards available, I dont even sync to my pc, I simply buy a new card and keep the old one as archive. $12 for 64gb cards..screw syncing.

Feb 12, 2017*permalink

@super ... great advice ..... igot the axon 7 and indeed its amazing clean polished design battery and the best speakers of almost any phone , great headphones google vr ready [ with androids next os installed ] i love it .... and unlike lesser phones it has a 200 gb[ 50 usd b&h] sd card installed and a honest to goodness headphone jack .

syncing sucks

Feb 12, 2017*permalink

I got the Axon 7 for my daughter and I have the OP3. Axon has very similar hardware, but the software is bit more kludgy and has some weird quirks. OnePlus has a very light, clean and fast Android flavor and it is really nice. It's almost like a Nexus (or Apple) in that regard, only you can easily customize your bootloader and load ROMs if you want. Best of both, if you ask me.

Axon has a killer screen and speakers for the money and it comes with a 2 years warranty (including drop/break!) and that makes it very hard to beat on value. Camera is Samsung made, and a half-tier down from the latest Sony sensors, though. Still very good though.

I've never come close to filling up 64GB on my phone, so I don't miss a card slot. I have a bit data plan (T-mobile) though, so I just work from the cloud.

Feb 12, 2017permalink

@tkbslc

I never keep pictures on phone memory anymore and only will buy a phone with memory slot. my Htc M8 fell in the sink. phone died. all images and videos were lost. had I had them on the memory card, like with my g4 and G5 I simply take the card out and can still access them with a card reader.

in every way the axon is better then the op3.

Feb 12, 2017permalink

zodiacfml

Great comments from you guys! I wasn't particular with an expansion slot which is why I have the Nexus 5 now but I found out that I was dead wrong. An expansion card helps in dumping a lot of huge files in the device without much cleaning effort.

As someone mentioned already, the OP3 should have been cheaper as it now costs close to an S7/Edge which has the slot. It's quite sad because I really like the aluminum body than Samsung's glass backs.

Feb 12, 2017permalink

The S7 is still close to $700 retail, so I don't know how you can say the OnePlus is close to the same price.

@Super Steel - Like I said, I have bought and used both and I disagree with your statement about it being better in every way. It's a very nice phone, though.

Feb 12, 2017permalink

sh10453

@zodiac ... Check out the Huawie Honor 8, either the 32GB or the 64GB .. It has 2 slots for use as dual nano SIM card or a SIM card and a MicoSD card.
I'm using the 2nd one for a 128GB microSD card. Really an awesome phone, at a much lower price.

Feb 12, 2017permalink

many only shop at cell stores & dont realize the wealth of options avail.
b&h has 100`s of unlocked cellphones ,low cost options that change price\ selection week to week
when i bought my axon7 399 i was thrilled with the value..32 days later the price went down to 349,with a free pair of jbl bluetooth wireless headphones , [ 99 usd normally]as im a good customer,& local, i stopped in a month later &they gave me a refund & a new pair of white jbl over ear synchros E40 BT.... that is value!
seriously for a pittance you can get a usable smartphone that at least serviceable for 100-150 really nice 2-300 or the equal of any apple or samsung 350\400.. well not the equal exactly, these have expandable storage\proper audio jacks.. , they are unlocked and are better than paying 25-30 $ for 36 months for a phone that will be obsolete before your payments are completed , research and google,moto axon blu..others with a 20-50 dollar sd card ,

rock it for litttle cash

Feb 12, 2017*permalink

AndersSJ

@super steel:
Better make sure your phone is not stolen or in other ways lost. The smart phoneuser sees to sync the photos on a regular basis.

It can be done automaticaly to a cloud service like MS OneDrive. And, as far as I remember, you get one TB for free at Flickr.

And - don't tell me that you have no regular access to a wireless network.

Feb 12, 2017permalink

moto g play 4th gen 5 inch $129

ASUS ZenFone 3 Max ZC520TL 16GB $139
BLU Life One X2 16GB 149

Sony Xperia C4 E5306 16GB Smartphone 169

ASUS ZenFone 3 Laser ZC551KL 32GB 179

BLU Life One X2 L0091UU 64GB 179

ZTE Blade V8 Pro Z978 32GB Smartphone 229

LG G4 32GB Smartphone Black Leather reg 479 now 249

Moto X Pure Edition 64GB Smartphone 269 [180 off]

Moto X Pure Edition 64GB Smartphone 299 [150off]

new BlackBerry 32GB unlocked android 6 [reg 699] sale 349

zte axon 7 349

i show this list as an inspiration to those who seek cell phone liberation from corporate tyranny of both manufacturer and provider this list changes day to day at b&h all are ...unlocked.... careful if verizon user
check ....
add a sd card of 64 128 or 200 gb and gain even more "freedom"

Feb 12, 2017*permalink

Most of those are old junk at this point.

Feb 12, 2017permalink

you are speaking nonsense these are good options not everyone can spend 800 on some overpriced chinese foxconn iphones or exploding incendiary devices from s korea

these are all viable options ,,at many price points and with a big sd card they are good to go for years

not a single one is junk as i didnt imclude a single apple or samsung in my list
look at the specs before you make foolish comments

Feb 12, 2017*permalink

zenphone 3 max mid 2016... Sony Xperia C4 3rd quarter 1015....BLU Life One BLU Life One X2 64gb mid 2016...zenphone lazer 2016

ZTE Blade V8 Pro NOT YET RELEASED .... my genius friend

lg g4 announced april 24 2015

Moto X Pure Edition 64Gb jan 2015

BlackBerry 32GB unlocked android 6 april 2015

axon 7 late 2016

all the phones are currently for sale new .... some are heavily discounted like a camerfa might be when a new model comes out .... that does not make the old model junk ,

that is simply a foolish comment

but i forgive you tkbslc

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Feb 12, 2017*permalink

zodiacfml

@sh10453
Thanks for the tip. It's a great option being 55 USD cheaper than the OnePlus. Yet, I am looking for OLED display for its great contrast and low brightness in darkness. This was brought about by the low contrast and high minimum brightness of the Nexus5. I also play 3D games occasionally which plays well on Snapdragons CPU/SoC. OnePlus3 has it all for me, except for that missing microsd slot.

The S7 is cheaper here in our country around 80 USD difference to OP3 but I just don't like its glass back.

Feb 12, 2017permalink

Sure is easy to get you riled, cosinaphile! :)

Feb 12, 2017permalink

dont you read my many posts ? im a lunatic

cheers

Feb 12, 2017*permalink

@tkbslc

"Most of those are old junk at this point."

well so are you but we still let you post. haha. jk

many of those phones are still EXCELLENT phones. the g4 specifically has it all for little money. IR blaster swappable battery leather backs fantastic qhd screen KILLER camera! the moto x pure is another excellent phone. a leather back option just makes it so regal.

Feb 13, 2017*permalink

renault5

H8rs gonna H8

Feb 13, 2017permalink

<3ers gotta <3

Feb 13, 2017permalink

(unknown member)

I am sorry but what.... 1080p on 5.5" phone is now too little? A 401PPI etc is too little?

Feb 13, 2017permalink

@Tommi K1

depends for who. but for those who want the more advanced phones, 1080p is old tech. u can easily notice a 1080p screen if youve been using qhd for a little while. 1080p 5.5: at 401dpi is almost 4 year old tech. the screen looks nice but nothing like qhd. when zooming to a picture or watching a movie the difference is noticeable with qhd vs 1080p.

the other problem is oneplus selling a 1080p screen at qhd screen prices that give more.
op3t is not a flagship phone. it doesnt have wireless charging or a memory slot. all the qhd phones mentioned above have it.

Feb 14, 2017permalink

Simon Fung

As a Oneplus 3T user, i would like to say that HDR and HQ function are both based on Multi-Frame capture, although it process very fast mostly user could not feel the process, but it will still be affected by movement of the hand via photographing, so it may make the photo blur in the connors or in one side, in good light condition leave HDR-Auto or HQ on is not a good idea, and this is also the reason why HDR and HQ could not work at the same time since they are doing in the same way but not the same processing.

Feb 12, 2017permalink

Every camera using multi-frame for HDR and low light modes. That's the only way they work.

Feb 12, 2017permalink

deluk

Can HDR and HQ be selected to work at the same time?

Feb 12, 2017permalink

Simon Fung

No, just one of them could be used in one time.

Feb 12, 2017permalink

deluk

"HQ mode improves low-light image quality"

This is in the "The Bad" list, how come?

Feb 12, 2017permalink

ha, good spot! Of course that's on the wrong side, moved it over now :)

Feb 12, 2017permalink

Achiron

"While shooting video with the OnePlus 3T we found one peculiarity: some of our few seconds short MP4 video clips were several GB large for no obvious reason. It's not a terrible problem as the videos are playing fine on and off the device. However, sharing them can be quite painful. Hopefully OnePlus can fix the issue with a software update in the nearer future."

Sounds like regular high bit rate files. HD video can take lots of space. Also, if anything, more focus should be given to the phone focus hunting in video. Even in the slowmo footage, where you shot a quite mundane scene, the phone decided to re-focus for no apparent reason. I was actually impressed by the ISO results, not actually being able to see much noise at any ISO - this phone uses a heavy NR algorithm it seems - but IMO you can easily print the 6400 samples you provided. Really incredible results. But the AF makes it not worth it IMO. I have such focus problem in my china phone, and it's seriously annoying.

Feb 12, 2017permalink

Achiron

Though thanks for the review, good to know the strides the china phones make in camera quality. IMHO, this seems streets ahead of iPhone 7 camera for example.

Feb 12, 2017permalink

which china phone ........ the iphone7 china phone ?......or some other china phone.

Feb 12, 2017*permalink

newe

Why would you share video? Who wants monster attachments? Just get the ffmpeg app, encode your videos to a smaller size, and share those. I've been doing this for years and people love it. If people want the originals, then upload them to a file locker and share from there. Easy.

Feb 12, 2017permalink

TheDarmok74

A couple of seconds and several GB does not sount regular at all, not even if you're using a RX100IV at 4k and highest bitrate. That generates less than 1GB per minute.

Feb 12, 2017permalink

definitely not regular, if one 10 sec file is 20x as large as the others, with same resolution and frame rate, something is not quite right....

Feb 12, 2017permalink

Peiasdf

Not sure Achiron is fully awake when he wrote praises for "China phone" and bash iPhone.

Feb 13, 2017permalink

Achiron

Iphone camera is mediocre, that's my opinion, no need to insult me if you don't agree.

Feb 13, 2017permalink

it is not just mediocre, for a camera in its class its camera is poor ... apple has done a great job of making what is shot with the iphone cameralook good under ideal conditions ... this is primarily a success of processing and massaging info in software and the success of a very good process and jpeg engine, by a great software team

for those willing to really consider the reality of its sensor its iso latitude and its average optical stack its clear that apple has cut every cost saving measure in the book to serve its bottom line at the expense of its hardware .... the apple phones camera is second or third rate in a premium camera

Feb 14, 2017*permalink

Leonp

Why is it that hard to find out the effective focal distace of most smartphone cameras?

Feb 12, 2017*permalink

Enginel

well with "serious" full-frame raw-capable interchangeable lens cameras they don't publish sensor spectral response either.

Feb 12, 2017permalink