I said it's still a capable camera, but to say it is a disappointment in terms of pricing, year of release and technology is perfectly fair.

Luke, it seems to me that you're bashing equipment that you've never used. Why would you do that?

Richard it doesn't matter. You don't have to use it. Spec wise and build wise and sensor wise it is measurably well bellow the competition, at that price. It's just a fact. It may work great, it may take amazing photos, that's wasn't the point

I like the fact that lukecookphoto has just one photo in his gallery, because it would be kind of misleading if he named himself lukecookphotos.

The worst part is that Canon forces people to buy their products. It's the only explanation. Maybe if DPR paid a little more attention to Sony, everybody would switch.

It will take time but it will catch up with them. Since it is obvious at this point that Canon is not going to change. It is just a matter of time.

>The worst part is that Canon forces people to buy their products.

Well, yeah. My colleague is still recovering from his switch from D750 to A7 III. And he wasn't so deep in the system to begin with. That's the thing with an old systems: if you're hooked, the financial losses when switching may be giant. And that's why instead of buying superior product for less money you're usually OK with mediocre one.

And that's why there is so much Canon apologism surrounding, let's be fair, weak and overpriced releases like 6D mk2 or M50. Maybe unintentionaly, but owners are telling themselves BUT THIS IS STILL A GOOD CAMERA or I'M TOTALLY OKAY WITH MY RELIABLE WORKHORSE.

In reality, though, your wedding order will likely go to a guy with comparable skills, but with silent shutter, very fast Eye-AF and 6K to 4K HLG-video codec. Because in the end his work will be better.
P.S. And yes, I still own and use 5D mk3 as a second body for my EF glass library, you can see some samples in my gallery.

" It's still easier to recover Thai kids from the underwater cave than to recover shadows from 6D mk2 RAW."
Its comments like these that keep me coming back here :)

It's clear the bashers have blindly followed the rest of the herd and in some cases adding their own exaggeration's along the way. No AF improvements??? Pleeease… I have shot the wife's 6DMkII at night (10.30pm) with a 100-400mm & 1.4TC at a dimly lit house the other side of Gig Harbour, and it focussed without even hunting. Even my 7DMkII baulked at that, and it's pretty good for AF. The massive improvement for the wife moving from the 6D to the 6DMkII is almost zero OOF shots. There are other improvements as well as that, but the improvement in AF is just way too big to miss. That alone confirms to me that they have never TRIED what they claim to know all about.

I bought this camera, really aware of its shortcomings, but satisfied with the results.

The MKII has problems with autofocus, yes, and some kind of firmware update correcting this issue would make it the perfect camera for me (considering price vs FF, specially for myself who upgraded from the 60D). I pitty the fact that it's tracking AF - servo will only cover the same space as an APS-C camera, really small for such a large sensor.

All reviews were honest with what you're buying: an affordable FF for those with EF lenses, beware of dynamic range (specially in dark areas) and tracking focus, good image quality and a nice bundle of resources.

I bought one used but mint for £1K with a used Canon EF 24-70 f2.8 for £1k ( also used but mint. ) You can actually buy the 6d ii body only for £1.2k here in the UK now.

Yeah, couldn't be happier. No problems with it at all.

It's a great upgrade from APS-C as far as I'm concerned. Love the flip screen, didn't think I'd use it but I find myself using it more and more. You pretty much get 100% AF coverage in live view too, it's also super quick with the touchscreen. Great connectivity with the app, GPS etc. Very light camera as well.

Wouldn't have been my first choice for video, but I don't shoot video.

It got a lot of hate from youtube etc. from the pixel peepers, it's unwarranted as far as I'm concerned.

It is what it is though, an entry level FF camera, and for what I paid it was a bargain.

There are somewhat polemic views about the 6D mk II. It works for me and It delivers to my requirements in a very solid way.
I could belly ache about spec sheet comparisons if I had time to waste on irrelevant comparisons. A lot of higher specified cameras would do exactly the same job as my 6D given my photographic requirements. I don't need extra bells and whistles for shooting weddings, events, fine art etc. I would never use them and without them I still get the results and my customers are happy, I get new business too.
Many would disagree and fine, we do not need to live each others photographic lives. If having the most specified ultra tech up to date camera is important, then there is choice enough for every one.
I have never understood why some bash gear they would never buy, and are intolerant of others for holding a different view point to that of their own but suspect its ego driven.

@vscd
Exactly. The old 6D is still on the "best seller" list. Not the new one. And I see no reason to downgrade to 6D Mark II from the original 6D.

"Does anyone buy this camera at all?"
Absolutely! Just like buying cars, some people can only afford used cars while others can buy brand new ones and some could even buy exotic cars. Some buy it because they didn't know any better, sort of like jumping on the bandwagon. Others buy it because they absolutely must has a Canon... Still, many will not buy it themselves but would come here to defend it regardless... Whether people would buy it or not is not important to you or me. It matters if this camera would meet your needs. Based on your question, you are not someone who would be happy with this camera. Therefore, you will not buy it. See, beauty is only in the eye of the beholder.

@ecka84
I would not call it a "downgrade"... the new one has some nice advantages. But if you get along with the old one - its ok. ...it's still a capable cam.

Folks thank you for answers. The point of this whole discussion is that new cameras should be an upgrade. Upgrade should mean that many of things inside should be better and some of them however can be same - BUT never worse. Why worse?

It’s really interesting that a few tests and testimonies from utubers and popular reviewers and this camera is forever dammed. There are a small number of more flattering views out there and of course the DXO orthodoxy on how you measure camera sensors is not a helpful measure when you try to asses the camera as a system rather than a just component.
Is it really such a bad camera? Well it is selling and those who buy it and use it must be convinced it’s worth it.
I personally believe it to be a good camera in its self. It delivers what I need and it’s currently the cheapest FF on the market. If you can’t take a good commercial image with it, having a so called better camera won’t save you.

Ecka84 - I don’t Agree with your formulation on who he canon6D mk Ii is for. I use one professionally for weddings. I also do not recognise your issue of noises raw file size either. If well exposed they hold up really well. Not sure where your direct experience comes from in processing 6D raw files, but why not share it, it likely makes you sound more reasoned rather than scathing and angry.
I do agree that in bright light a fast lens needs to be stopped down or you need an ND, I get that on my 5D mk iv too albeit admittedly less often.
Not sure why you mention film, I certainly didn’t. However I get your implication that you think i am resistant to progress or stuck in my ways.
However you can’t know that and in the event you are quiet wrong.
I agree the early A7 with kit lens is cheaper than the 6D mkii but with a canon adaptor for my L series lenses it ain’t .

Well, that tells a lot about your professionalism. :) What if your memory card fails? You have no backup slot in 6D2. Some people are using iPhones professionally. So what?
If you don't like what I'm saying, it doesn't mean that I'm angry or scathing. You are just reading the text and the only voice you can hear (including the one in your head) is your own. Why don't you just pick a tone you like best? Problem solved :). And please stop trying to read between the lines and making up context. I'm not your enemy.
Actually, the earliest A7 is younger (and cheaper) than 6D. I mean, 6D predates A7 series. And 6D2 doesn't cost $2000 anymore, just because it was too overpriced at launch (for what it is). Its price wouldn't melt so fast if it was selling like hot cakes.
I'm not into kit lenses or zooms in general. I'd rather use it with a cheap 50F1.8 instead and then add some decent primes later. But if (when) I switch to Sony, I will definitely adapt some reasonably priced non-OEM lenses.

Ecka84 nothing is more ironic than seeing your own behaviour in others and criticising them for it.

So I have to buy a newer model, to be better than the current model, to match the same quality as the older model? Sounds like good marketing to me.

Hahahaha. How about NOPE?
I actually never heard of a Canon firmware doing something else than just fixing bugs and maybe add compatibility for lenses/accessories. Besides a software can't fix bad hardware.

@mouzhik
The Canon 6DM2 users are outside, using it. The rest comments on dpreview ;)

Owned it. Moved on.
Then again I wouldn't consider it "bashing" to discuss the strengths and weaknesses of a camera.
Seems that it is extremely unpopular to give this model anything but praise in the Canon EF forum right now

Add me to the list of people who have tried it and didn't like it. In a world of A7 III's and D750's, it's simply not competitive on a feature level (even going backwards in some areas). Sensor and AF in particular were a let down.

Nah the dimwits are all in the Sony forum believing their cameras have less noise than a 77D.

Funny. I just got myself a new 6D II (I was aware of all the press as I was making my choices). Coming from my trusty Rebel T1i for the last 10 years I was looking to go into full frame ... after evaluating all my choices the 6DII was the natural choice especially with the on-going summer sales.

I had the opposite reaction to the Sony mirrorless cameras actually - when I started this I was looking to get away from Canon and start over but after picking one up I realized I can't stand electronic viewfinders. However most of all I couldn't stand how the A7/A9 felt like just big a** Cyber Shot point and shoots. That fake 'click' and the lame white telephotos ... ugh ... couple that with Sony UI/UX from 2004 Cybershot cameras sealed the deal.

@Namenra; It says 'rare operational bugs', not 'major operational bugs'

Do you mean 2018 specs or 2018 release year?

Canon 2018 DSLR will come in 2022 the soonest.