Apple updates iPad Pro display, processor and camera, launches 10.5" model

It "might" be with the built-in file system coming in iOS 11. As it stands though, a RAW editing workflow on the iPad is terrible; the actual editing is awesome: it's getting the files off the device which sucks.

I have no faith in Apple anymore.
Actually I think the file system will only be implemented so they can phase out Mac OS and go full closed, full vendor lockin.

I find it hard to decide what my next computer is going to be.
I like the Mac OS, I just dislike what they are currently doing right now and they seem to be slow in innovation and adaption these days.

You guys couldn't be more wrong... The files will be transferable via wifi if you're on the Pro line.

Also, Apple has a built a line of tablets with True Tone displays so they calibrate themselves.

On top of that, the pencil is incredibly useful for professional art work and we're now starting to see photography apps that support the iPad Pro, the Pencil, and Raw Image Editing.

The 9.7" iPad (Non-Pro) Doesn't have any ability to calibrate the display on the fly, or use the Pencil.

As for the Surface Pro, I had one of those first, I hated it because the form factor made it awkward to use and Tablet mode is a joke. If you want a PC, then get a PC, but let's not pretend that it is in anyway, in the same category of products as the iPad Pro line.

GEONYC, soo many negative posts here and so many are simply insulting. Why go all trollish because someone likes a particular product? You don't like Apple products, so don't buy them. But really, it's just a product.

Canon or Sony, Apple or MS. People have all kinds of complex reasons for picking their tech -- reason you don't know. And getting in your face about someone else's choices just cheapens the discussions here.

I don't believe he means the camera, but the True Tone light sensor that adjusts color on the display to match ambient lighting white balance.

You are turning the world upside down EricWN.
It is not up to Adobe to create a full version of the Adobe CC suite.

It just shows that the iPad Pro is NOT suited for professional use.
It is Apple who should see that Mac OS needs to be innovated and the iPad Pro is just not a professional product without a full Operating System.
The 'Pro' in the name is just a marketing thing.

I would definitely go with the 10.5". It's no larger or heavier than the iPad it's replacing but the screen is dramatically bigger because of the tiny bezels (which I'm sure you know). The increased portability makes the 10.5 much more valuable in my opinion. Also the 10.5 packs the same power in the smaller form. To me the 12.9 is just way too bulky. 12.9 is not much bigger from a production and workflow standpoint and it is way less packable. This is the same logic I had when I chose an 11" MacBook air over the 13". Much more portable but same power and ability to dock when at home or at a workstation.

Shouldn't your wife/husband decide what they want to buy?

If his parents want one, I'm sure they'll buy one. Don't let the little kids control the
household buying decisions.

@ GEONYC Apple Addicts are generally more laid back than Apple haters whose irrational hatred of a company whose products they will never buy makes them the tech equivelent of extremist religionists. Crass, dumb facists.

Personally, I don't care what other people use. People's preference is OK with me. Nothing like an Apple article to bring out the Trolls and their perjoritives.

@Petrogel I think you have proved my point.

What do you use the pencil for? For me doing regular stuff, writing down notes, a few simple drawings, annotating things, it works really well. The latency is more noticeable in the Office app, but in native Apple app, or some third party app, such as Notability, it works well.

That affinity photo demo was super impressive.

Affinity is FAB, it's British, inexpensive and I have switched.

I'm pretty sure they said in the keynote presentation it is USB3.

@Dr Blackjack, I don't think you can ever replace paper. Working on Wacom tablet does give a tiny bit of tactile sensation and is as close to paper as you can get in a totally digital workflow. An old hack was to put a real piece of paper over the surface of the Wacom tablet, but that threw off the pressure sensing.

Anyway, I'm just saying drawing on an iPad is not for me, but everyone has different preferences. If someone loves drawing on his iPad, more power to him! :)

It's not just the texture but the ability to ink (lead? graphite?) the way a pencil responds to paper. As a designer, I go through 1000+ sheets of paper a year for work that gets scanned and then entered into CAD by a technician (sounds inefficient, but it isn't), or compiled into calculation packages. I've had three digitizer interfaces (Wacom pad - no good for me without a screen, Sony Flip, Surface Pro 4) and tried out numerous others including the iPad Pro. They're so far from the accuracy and sensitivity to light touches that pencil is it's like night and day. I can get along with the SP4 pen now, in a pinch, but it's not a great medium for accurate pencil sketches and slows me down about 50-100% over pencil and paper. And, for me, time is money. I keep hoping they get better, though.

"t doesn't seem like it would be that hard for someone to produce a screen protector ..."

There are if you search:

http://www.cultofmac.com/476861/make-ipad-pro-feel-like-paper-cover/

However for those who have never tried Apple Pencil before, this is not your typical "stylus" writing on glass, and you should give it a try.

Dash2k8 - try a matte screen protector. Makes a big difference to the feel of the Pencil.

Thanks Franz. I appreciate the support

What a load of rubbish, do you guys use phones at all, where the bezels have dropped to almost zero. They don't cause problems and the bezels on the new iPads are still large. How on earth do you use you iPad where you need gigantic bezels to operate it properly?

iOS is actually very good at detecting and ignoring unintentional touches at the edges--at least on the iPhone, where the size bezel is already very narrow. This is a major point of annoyance when moving to Android, which is not as forgiving (at least as of 5.1.x; it may have improved more recently).

If you think zero bezel phones don't cause problems, you haven't use them much. I have a S7 Edge after losing my Note 7 to the battery fiasco and I have to keep mine in a case to avoid spurious edge touches. Even the Note 7, with the tighter radius and better edge rejection was impossible to pick up from a flat surface while ringing without an errant touch being registered. At least for phones, you can cradle them in one hand, mostly avoiding the edges. A tablet of this size requires an edge grip or two hands to hold effectively/safely while interacting with the screen using touch or inking. Bezel size is currently an un-solved UI issue (though adaptive borders with full screen imaging is one solution).

Your comment makes no sense at all.

Besides, iPads are made in China and they are just a Star Trek knock off... LOL.

P.s. Brand loyalty is a con. I don't care about brands and marketing.

The Surface pro sulks in the background.

ha

Can you please have a look at the specs and performance of the iPad pro and tell us it's not aimed at something more serious than a game player or web browser? The iPad pro gen 1 was faster than the macbook...

Please then look at the imac pro and tell us that it's potentially 18 core, 128gb ram, 4tb ssd with 5k screen is just aimed at the consumer, priced at probably 10k for that version.

Back up your statements

I hope so too! but for now you can do that with Surface Pro. That's the option I'm going with. I need the full version of LR for presets and PS for layers. Mobile version is not an option for me.

@autoxnyc: Apple should release an iMad, a tablet that runs MacOS and supports "desktop/notebook" applications.

you can buy affinity photo for the ipad now, it's almost identical to photoshop but cheaper and without subscription.

All of them

Blame Adobe for lacking app functionality, not Apple.

Did you watch the keynote at all?

The REAL wow effect was the presentation of new Affinity Photo for iPad on stage. What colorblind said above. It was an amazing demo of what can be done on a tablet now.

Point is: the UI of a tablet needs to be much different from a desktop or notebook. Adobe would have to rewrite Photoshop from scratch. What they don't do, they rather ship gimmicky apps instead. OTOH, Affinity Photo is the real deal now on a tablet.

Adding a MacOS emulation box into iOS wouldn't solve the problem. The resulting software would be awkward to use. Very un-apple like.

@JordanAT I don't see why Adobe wouldn't be able to do what Serif did with Affinity Photo. And PS is an aged software with a UI which feels old anyway. Adobe would be well advised to hie back a few good core software guys bringing the company back on track.

There soon will be another platform (WebGL/Html5 running local) to be supported by modern software. Adobe cannot stay on Win/MacOS forever.

But anyway, Affinity Photo for iPad probably is enough Photoshop for 95% of PS users and much more suited for a touch device. So, it already is too late for Adobe now.

I do not hate, actually i'm happy i got rid of what once used to sound like what you have just read !!!
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Petrogel: Your powers of foretelling the future are impressive. What's your feeling about the stock market next week?

People that can't afford Apple products typically dismiss them. Same with Leica cameras, luxury cars and so on.

Why would they do that? How can I use it as a scanner if there is no camera?

Why get rid of the backcamera?

I don't take selfies all day and the backcamera is darned useful on a tablet.

It is not old tech. Just the same old trolling...

When people cant afford and apple device, they buy others. Same story everywhere elese.
That is slowly changing with the emergence of high quality products from it's competitors.
I have a feeling apple is only competing with itself. All it's comparisons it always with it's predecessors.

Maybe the problem is you that yo don't know how to use it!

"I have a feeling apple is only competing with itself"

Isn't that the truth? I'm a windows and Android user, but to any of my non-tech friends I always recommend Apple stuff. Comprehensively good build, customer service at the nearest apple shop, security updates for years (most android phones are wide-open shortly after purchase; 3 years max for premium phones), quality components (anti-reflection screens, anti-smudge etc), proper app sandboxing in IOS for resilience against malware (which is why you can't remotely control an Ios device), higher quality apps, and the slickest UI that even an eighty year old can get around.

I'm wedded to windows, but sometimes I'm tempted.

best tablets? check macworld.co.uk and see how your tablets are doing.

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a good one Artem thanks for sharing .!!!!!!

Sure. I believe you can with at least Lightroom.

I copy Raw files to my iPad Mini or iPhone from my Oly EM1.2 when I am away from home. I can edit these a little in Apple photos directly. This is great for sharing photos immediately on a big screen, uploading to social media, etc. On long trips I can do a lot of organising images into folders from a number of different cameras too.

Once on the iPad they propogage to the cloud and will appear on the Mac at home. Edits copy / synchronise everywhere. So photos really gets used for content management. Once back at home I can edit with anything I like.

The new Affinity Photo will work on the iPad pros, that should be a very interesting editor, exactly the equivalent of the desktop version allegedly.

You can't edit directly on an SD card, you have to import them to the camera roll; I have used Apple's SD card reader for a while. IOS has supported raw editing for several years and many of the apps allow it. LR mobile, Affinity, or even Photos.

Jokes on you petrogel! You absolutely can do that, you need the camera connection kit. Below is a link to a guide on how to do this.

http://www.macworld.com/article/1151911/ipad-accessories/cameraconnection-workflow.html

I disagree Daqk. Editing raws on the iPad has gotten better and easier over time. There are still finishing edits you might need a desktop computer for, but all in all the experience is good.

I've had the Apple reader for several years and it is still working fine.

I tried using wifi from camera to iPad/iPhone. This worked well on the iPhone but not the iPad for some reason. The app Cascable would copy over the full res Raw files. To speed things up I bought the newer Apple USB 3 adapter and this works really well. It has an option to be powered as well.

It's really good to get trip photos into one folder on the iPad/Cloud, (EM1, TG5 and iPhone) while on the trip, all geotagged and time stamped accurately.

Snapseed works for raw files

Jokes on you Snapperhed I’ll give some reasons why I got rid of my ipad and bought Surface pro 3(by that time was the new arrival)
1. SD Card slot

2. OS compatible to Lightroom-Photoshop

3.RAM

4.No need of Apple TV to connect with my BRAVIA

5.Bluetooth that can actually connect with other devices of different OS’s except iOS of course

6.Normal size USB slot (all of my devices have a usb cord, NO NEED TO BUY NOTHING)

…….and the list is long
One of the reasons I was laughing it’s because I got rid of my iPad
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This is a really good question. I have an older iPad so I have never even bothered installing Lightroom Mobile because of the combination of slow processing speed and low memory. But with a new iPad Pro and a lot of storage, could I work effectively with the big raw files from my Canon 5DsR? Bandwidth restraints would never let me move these files over the cloud.

The ideal situation for me would be to have the image files on an external HD all the time. That's how I work on the desktop. Is such a thing even possible with iPad?

No. Files need to be in your camera roll.

Sony A7II. Both Cascable's editor and Lightroom work pretty smooth on the iPad Pro, not sure about older models. I had an A7RII for a while, I'll see if I can load one onto a SD card and test.

Only hangup I hit was trying to send RAW direct from Cascable to LR. Exporting RAW to Camera Roll then opening in LR was seamless. Doesn't bother me, wasn't hard to take the extra step of export/import.