Sony fixes data loss issues with firmware v2.10 for a7 III, a7R III cameras

Just one reason, macs are boutique computers. In other words, they suck.

I updated my A7III using a Mac running 10.14.2 with no problem.

Nikon and Sony have banding. Nikon had oil spots. Sony has this issue. Canon is very reliable.

Arun H: From what I can see, all brands have their share of issues. Also Canon, with light leak, white dots, shadow banding, lack of dynamic range, 5D cameras that die in humid climate, error messages, weak and faulty hot shoes on several models, etc.

If Sony just had an issue for a few weeks with a firmware bug that now is fixed, and nothing else, they would by a large margin be the best cameras that ever were built.

Making up things doesn’t make them so. No Canon camera sice 2014 has banding. Light leaks well before that if at all.

@ Arun H: Sony A7III and A7rIII firmware bug is also history.

We use Canon cameras and some other brands at work.

Magnar: Good call on using some Canon cameras at work. Always a good idea to have at least one set of reliable equipment.

Canon's so reliable because they've had 10 years to test their most recent releases. ◔_◔ You can also rely on Canon to be in last place in every competition except flippy screens and advertising campaigns.

@ Arun H: We don't find that the Canon cameras are more reliable than the others, and often also not the preferred tool. ;-)

Arun just because you are ignorant doesn't mean the issues don't exist for canon. It only means you have no clue.

Well zxaar, you got a few things right. I am certainly ignorant of issues with Canon cameras that only exist in the imagination of Sony users. You also are correct that I have no clue what other made up issues desperate Sony users who can barely save their photos will come up with to justify their claims of superiority over Canon and Nikon.

@ Arun H: I think you perfectly described your ignorance with your own answer here - bashing other brands, blaming others. Nothing constructive or helpful at all.

@ Arun H: Magnus? Who is this Magnus?

Anyway, I will answer: To my knowledge, Canon banding is a well known issue for many Canon photographers who don't have the latest models, which might be troublesome especially when the cameras have low DR too, and banding is also discussed for the new Canon R on Canon forums.

Canon problems:

https://www.dpreview.com/search/forums?query=problem%205d&forum=1032&only-threads=yes&only-titles=yes

Blue Bomber: You're a funny guy. You couldn't point to a systemic issue with Canon cameras, so you did a forum search? Lol!

@ Arun H: Are all those reporting Canon problems liars?

Not liars, Magnar. But as you very well know, people use forums to report issues that they see in the hopes that others can help work through them. Or a quality problem with an individual body. A very different thing than a systemic issue that the manufacturer has to issue a fix for.

@ Arun H: And your attitude here is helpful for Sony users? Not even for Canon users ...

@Arun H

"Blue Bomber: You're a funny guy. You couldn't point to a systemic issue with Canon cameras, so you did a forum search? Lol!"

Well, if you'd like me to just pinpoint a single problem, here's a show stopper that many 5D IV owners here have encountered:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4076652

Do you really want me to find ALL of the problems in these cameras? Because they're certainly not infallible like many claim.

PS:

The "amazing" EOS R certainly has banding, and will show up in any shot that uses its "incredible" 50/1.2 RF with 4.5 stops (!) of vignetting:

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison/fullscreen?attr144_0=canon_eos_r&attr144_1=canon_eos5dmkiv&attr144_2=sony_a7riii&attr144_3=nikon_d850&attr146_0=100_3&attr146_1=100_3&attr146_2=100_3&attr146_3=64_4&normalization=print&widget=333&x=-0.5803418641150262&y=0.8859275053304905

As you can see, it only takes 3 stops to make it show up. Good luck if you actually try to correct it fully:

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison/fullscreen?attr144_0=canon_eos_r&attr144_1=canon_eos5dmkiv&attr144_2=sony_a7riii&attr144_3=nikon_d850&attr146_0=100_5&attr146_1=100_5&attr146_2=100_5&attr146_3=64_6&normalization=print&widget=333&x=-0.5803418641150262&y=0.8859275053304905

#canonproblems

https://www.canonrumors.com/?s=service+advisory+-firmware&_xfToken=1545520772%2Cac9a33170a6994e2a1befc96e8a6eb2d

Blue Bomber: Thank you for sending that canon rumors link. I don't think you realize this - but is is actually surprising how few issues there really are, given how far back that history goes and how many models it covers. It is a testimony to the QA and design rigor that goes into Canon cameras. Thank you. You made my day. Merry Christmas to you and yours.

Actually, it only shows what Canon has actually acknowledged. ;) There are other issues that Canon hasn't touched upon. Not to mention that, just like Nikon, nothing is called a recall, no matter how severe. Take the 5D III, where the LCD backlight bled into the sensor chamber! No recalls, Canon said it shouldn't affect images, and says you can send your camera in for just an inspection if you want. Meanwhile, they know the exact serial number range that was affected.

Just because Canon doesn't acknowledge issues, doesn't mean there aren't issues. Fortunately, someone tried to be a whistle blower at one point, and revealed some of what's going on behind the scenes at Canon. Don't think it ever went anywhere, but it shows how shady Canon can be:

https://www.canonrumors.com/we-have-more-internal-canon-service-information-on-lenses-cameras/

@arun

All the regular visitors to this site know of the issues that he mentioned. A little search will bring the threads and articles about it.

You can keep deluding yourself as much as you want. If you talk like ignorant people like me will point it out.

Also hard to take ignorant people seriously so i don't think most here care what you think on this issue.

This is so sad.
What a pantomime.

My camera is better than yours and your camera is rubbish.
No your camera is rubbish and mine's perfect.
etc
etc
etc

Boring.
Grow up.
Do you people actually take photos with your toys?
Or just use them as "weapons" to insult each other?

"entombment" ???

You can blame SanDisk for altering their card recipe. Also note that this issue was easily avoided by formatting your card in-camera if it was ever accessed by a computer. All camera makers ALWAYS suggest formatting the card in-camera, so if you don't follow the rules, it's not their fault.

You know what, Blue..., my bad, i actually downloaded the a7m3 update without paying attention. Thanks for letting me know. Now I just updated my camera with the right a7rm3 firmware 2.10, and it worked perfectly. My mistake for the first attempt. Thanks for your feedback. Happy Holidays!

I am glad Sony fixed the fix :)

Glad to see you have a sense of humour:-)

v2.0 was released back in October with this fault. Sony only acknowledged the fault recently and pulled it down 2 weeks ago. Read the actual posts carefully so you can avoid making lots more, or multiple mistakes again in future.

Yes, the firmware was taken down less than 2 weeks ago. That's when Sony began working on a fix. Apparently it wasn't a massive widespread issue like most firmware problems, as it took around 2 months for anything to happen. For all we know, Sony may have spotted the problem themselves, as there were no stated "reports" of the issue occurring. Nothing on the forums popped up, unlike bigger issues occurring in other brands like Fuji. Good thing you don't work on firmware, or we'd all be in for a lot of headaches. ;)

Sorry, sirs! But I updates my bodies when the FW came out. And on the A7RIII an error occured. Since this time, the A7RIII has been sent in.
Sony service was thinking back in October, there is am Mb error. Until this time I´m waiting for my fixed body.
My local dealer, who sent it in, contacted the Sony service: He was told that an software-fix will be announced soon. So it was an FW problem

I probably would, I can't lie.

My 8 year old canon still runs like new at over 68,000 shutter count, and with magic lantern nighly builds updates evry couple of months

@so-what-17
My A9 runs like new after 1M images...

Almost every photo Canon fanbois take has data loss in the shadows...

@armandino ya right

Losing data is apparently not a Con for Sony cameras. It's not as if "data" is an important feature, right?

A7Riii launched in Oct. 2017. A7iii launched in Feb. 2018. Data loss problem fixed in Dec. 2018. Gold Award for speed!

Seems to be an issue with changes in recent SanDisk cards. There were previous compatibility issues with them, which most likely created this issue in the process of adding compatibility in 2.0.

@ Deliverator: Did you notice what data loss that eventually would occur?

As some users pointed out, the data loss was limited to the file being written (or all files in the buffer at the moment), not the files already saved on the card.

Losing data can happen with any camera.

A couple of weeks ago I had a brand new Sandisk Extreme Pro 64Gb SD in my Canon 5DS. It successfully wrote about 320 RAWs to the card, and everything after that was corrupted.

Why? *probably* because I didn't format the card before using it. Fortunately I had JPEG versions written seperately to the CF slot, so no images were lost.

Moral of the story - always format cards before use *in the camera they'll be used in*, and never buy a camera with a single card slot.

"As some users pointed out, the data loss was limited to the file being written (or all files in the buffer at the moment), not the files already saved on the card."

I see. That makes it all right then.

Deliverator: Use your brain! Why is there a fix, do you think? Nobody have said that losing one picture is ok. But it is not as troublesome as losing everything on the memory card.

Actually, got a Z7 and very happy with it. Clients too.
Cue: Sonywardogattackfrenzy

Remrebus, actually CaNikon fixes these issues even for older cameras.

I wouldn't get any Z siblings, there are lots of reports of grip material falling apart from a few weeks of use. Most concerned is the AF performance.

@ozturert

Do U mean D3 > D3s, D4 > D4s, D600 > D610, D800 > D810 ?... well, these are hardware fixes, not software ones!

Remrebus, except from D600-D610, others are significant upgrades.
D600-D610 "upgrade" is a catastrophe for Nikon.
D750 was introduced 4 years ago and a new firmware came last summer. I think you don't follow CaNikon's updates.