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Adobe reportedly working on full Photoshop version for iPad

Software maker Adobe offers several Photoshop-branded apps for Apple's iPad, for example Photoshop Express, Photoshop Lightroom, Photoshop Mix and Photoshop Fix. However, none of the mobile apps even come close to offering a the comprehensive feature set found in the Adobe Photoshop desktop application.

According to a report by Bloomberg, this appears to be about to change, though. Sources familiar with the matter have told the publication that Adobe will announce a full-fledged Photoshop version for the iPad at its annual conference in October and make it available sometime next year. That said, given the project is still in its early stages, deadlines could be moved.

The introduction of the iPad Pro and its popularity within the creative industry have likely changed Adobe's mind and lead to the decision to rewrite its software for Apple's underpowered tablet – compared to desktop computers anyway. When the app is available, Creative Cloud users will be able to seamlessly switch between the iPad and other devices they are using.

Would you use Photoshop on an iPad? Let is know in the comments.

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User8653835866

Absolutely, as well as the third party apps. The future is in the iPad and other ‘pads’ that are or will be on the market.

10 hours ago
Ilker

That would be great !

13 hours ago
lbuclk=

I would not buy into it, tablets are companion devices to computers. I prefer using the computer for far better control than a tablet can offer.

1 day ago
MikeFairbanks

They need to run both lightroom and photoshop with full raw files.

2 days ago
Vivas7

A full version of Lightroom would be equal if not better , with the ability to resize and a comprehensive print dialogue for Epson and canon printers .
Probably asking too much ! But LTR TIMELAPSE would be an excellent app for iPad Pro whether that would be possible ?as the two obviously interact with one another .
If you don’t ask !........

2 days ago
Copal Fit
Copal Fit

I am done for the future with leased Adobe cloud products. I would rather see third party software like Darktable doing the same and being available for pads.

3 days ago
Brek01

one off payment or subscription?

4 days ago
james s. kennedy

The only reason I am still alive is that my iPad keeeps me around as a pet. I guess I will have to upgrade my Air 2.

4 days ago
Sid911

Affinity Photo is discounted to $13.99 today (Monday July 16 -2018). Make use of it till you can compare it to full fledged Photoshop.

4 days ago
proviaman60

You know, I really wanted to like Affinity. I have used it from the start on both my Mac and iPad Pros (both gens) but I simply could not get into it. I have been using PS since 1992 and LR since 1997 and I guess I am hooked on Adobe for better or for worse. These days, 95% of my editing and processing in on LR, I have long since ceased using my MacBook Pro for out of town assignments opting for my 12.9 iPad Pro (2nd gen). Definitely, some hurdles to clear but having my edits made on my iPad while out of town and to return to pick up and do any additional touch up editing on my iMac, well, frankly is worth the $14 a month CC membership. Frankly, I am hoping that Adobe or someone introduces a full-on DAM editor for the iPad, that will be huge.

2 days ago
thomas2279f
thomas2279f

Internal storage soon will run out on static IPAD and need wi-fi mobile storage and tethering to HDD's / Usb drives

4 days ago
DarnGoodPhotos

Mine has 256GB. That's more than enough until you archive files.

4 days ago
proviaman60

I rarely keep any images on my iPad or Mac's internal drives. Most files are uploaded to DB, Adobe Cloud and transferred to my Drobo. My iPad Pro has 512gb of storage and I use only for temporary storage.

2 days ago
scotthunter

It would certainly be useful if Adobe added panorama and HDR merge to LR Mobile. That way I could leave the laptop behind and just take my iPad when I go on vacation.

4 days ago
Anthony McCallister

How about a full version of Lightroom?

4 days ago
DarnGoodPhotos

iOS LR Mobile is 90% of the full version.

4 days ago
proviaman60

LRCC is getting there, they did a nice update a few weeks back, give them time. That said, from my Desktop, I still use LR Classic 99% of the time and LR CC from my iPad Pro when on the road.

2 days ago
Nukunukoo
Nukunukoo

Photoshop on a tablet is a pretty potent combination. However, to make this work, Adobe must change the whole user interface paradigm to fit the tablet workflow. As a 12.9" Pro user with Affinity Photo, the company has proven that such a complex program can indeed be adapted from the mouse/keyboard interface to the pen/touch one. Most of those who say nay most likely have not used Affinity Photo for the iPad.

5 days ago
hjs_koeln

A few questions come to mind:

- How fluid will it be working with the iPad version of PS considering keyboard shortcuts are necessary to work really fluidly with PS (an additional keyboard will make it harder to really edit on the go)

- Could this be a hint towards more RAM and hard drive space on the next gen iPad Pro to accommodate PS?

- Will Adobe rewrite the PS completely to make it more efficient , and will this streamlined PS version then replace the desktop version? As far as I know PS architecture has remained unchanged since it´s beginnings, and compared to more recent bitmap editors (like Affinity Photo) it´s inefficiency using available RAM and disk space shows.

5 days ago
Kiril Karaatanasov

I got the Surface Pro 12". IPS 3:2 6MP screen, regular CPU and OS. ....it is quite good and runs Photoshop, Capture One, Nik tool, Portrait Pro and so on.....

I suppose the 10" Surface Go with 8gb will run Photoshop fine too.

5 days ago
EricWN

It will be nice to have options soon. Tablet hardware should be plenty powerful for many image manipulation tasks, great to see Adobe are trying to offer something here.

4 days ago
sirhawkeye64

I think the new Surface Go should be fine, as long as you get the 8GB version. I think I read somewhere the Go is very similar to the Surface Pro 3 but with newer USB ports (ie. USB-C) and probably the newer processors, but I was able to run PS and LR on my 8GB Surface Pro 3 just fine. I just wish Microsoft would add a second port so that you can use a USB 3.0 HDD and a USB mouse at the same time, then I'd get another one.

4 days ago
Kiril Karaatanasov

sirhawkeye64 I bought a small USB hub with SD card reader for my surface to allow disk and SD card to be plugged at once.

3 days ago
sirhawkeye64

Yeah I saw those. This was several years ago (maybe 3 or so) so I might get another Surface tablet at some point (as it would be useful for showing people images on a display bigger than a 5" smartphone).

3 days ago
Sunshine7913

Wacom is facing a new rival: iPad Pro.

6 days ago
Relaxed

Finally something I can use my iPad Pro for.

6 days ago
munn1

I can't imagine doing acurate selections on a 10 inch screen with my finger,....no thanks!

6 days ago
Relaxed

My Apple Pencil is more accurate than my mouse driving skills.

6 days ago
DarnGoodPhotos

Why wouldn't you zoom in for more accuracy?

4 days ago
munn1

I use a Wacom tablet.

4 days ago
Kiwisnap

I'd prefer a full version of LR.

6 days ago
KodaChrome25
KodaChrome25

Pfft. Adobe didn't mention AI, so I'm out.

6 days ago
Kostasm

Full version does not mean full usability as 4gb ram of ipad pro is quite limited for heavy files. It would be nice as a sketchpad though.

6 days ago
redtailboas

I run full PS no problem with 4GB.

5 days ago
GabrielZ
GabrielZ

Still have to pay Adobe a monthly subscription fee, rather than be able to purchase it outright. So not for me.

6 days ago
ukaskew37

It won't solve the problem or, er, interesting file management on an iPad. Might be fine for small batches and one-offs but unless they have something very clever planned managing whole shoots on an iPad is an exercise in frustration.

6 days ago
PhozoKozmos
PhozoKozmos

i've avoided free mobile android Adobe PS (too basic)
so basic, even free basic mobile Snapseed is better

but, i like free mobile android Adobe LR (ACR built-in),
and mis-named recently as Adobe Photoshop Lightroom (Lr = Logo)
and Adobe Photoshop Lightroom CC (Lr = Logo), and no Ps (photoshop) features at all
(any paid unlocked basic editing Ps features are unavailable anyway)

i treat all fancy custom color/filter treatment as pre-canned junk found on most photo editing apps (avoid)

6 days ago
jayfromeast

I've been waiting for this for ages.....
would love to replace my macbook for ipad...

6 days ago
lawny13

Oh really. File management on the iPad is wanting.

How do you plan on storing and managing all your photos? I recently obtained a MacBook Pro and upon moving all of my data around realized that I have some 400GB of photos and video. So even with an external hard drive and/or NAS I am curious how you will get photos off camera, transfer them and use them in general. Cause I too would love to have only used my iPad Pro, but there is just too many things to work around and figure out (loads of no straight forward solutions and loads of unknowns such as apps not behaving as you expect) to have a consistent experience.

6 days ago
Kiwisnap

You store them at home, on an iMac and Thunderbolt drives.

Use the iPad when you are on the road as a temp storage system, syncing with LR Mobile.

6 days ago
Relaxed

Me too.

@lawny13 that simple. It’s called fiber optic :) 1gig Internet.

6 days ago
jayfromeast

nas works for me.

5 days ago
lawny13

ok... but basically what you are saying is that a computer is still needed right?

So what I would like to know is how to deal with transferring images to the ipad while on the road, and then transferring them to your home library while keeping your edits. At least I haven't figured that one out yet (not that I tried hard enough probably).

So basically I have lightroom classic on my macbook pro, which places my images and such in the NAS. The images all have a smart preview built and shared on the cloud. So edits on my desktop or iphone or ipad are all synced, which is great. However, if I place raw images on my ipad and that syncs... that is fine until I want to move them from my ipad to my home network. Perhaps one of you can run me through the process? Cause as far as I saw, on my macbook pro they are placed in a lightroom CC folder which I can't seem to "import"/move to my macbook's library, and removing them from the ipad removes the sync and thus the edits.

5 days ago
melgross
melgross

Adobe actually made the statement, which is noted in the original Bloomberg report, that many of their professional users are moving from notebooks to iPads, presumably the iPad Pro 12.9”, and demanded that they do this. Demand is Adobe’s word, not mine.

6 days ago
5 days ago
chadley_chad
chadley_chad

And what about all the plug-ins I own?

Sorry, but although I use my iPad 99% more than my iMac, when it comes to editing and storing my images, it’s the later I choose.

6 days ago
Elonlukatski
Elonlukatski

How hard is it to pack that iMac around ? Is it difficult to put in the over head bins ? I have both and I prefer to take my iPad with me when traveling

6 days ago
Raist3d

@dpreview- "Apple's underpowered tablet" - you must surely be kidding. Have you seen how fast Affinity Pro is because of their heavy use of metal/GPU? The current iPad Pro is pretty fast.

Sure, it's not 8-th core Nvidia Volta setup. Yet.

6 days ago
arbux

Yet and never. Small porrable device will never compete on performance with high end desktop. Plus current ipad has 4gb ram. Goid to edit jpg from mobile.

6 days ago
Raist3d

Tou should edit some raws on tge current ipad before making the statement. Paper specs arent the all. For example- the overgeas on the OS is far lighter. You are also dealing with a different multicore architecture.

At some point good enough pwrformance happens with a monility advantage and foe many real world photographer workflows that works better.

5 days ago
brycesteiner
brycesteiner

>>arbux
Next time use it first before you comment. I am amazed at how fast it is compared to the desktop. Try Affinity Designer on iPad compared to Adobe Illustrator. It's the closest thing to compare since Illustrator is not available on iPad. The 120hz refresh is super smooth. It can open much faster and is easier to edit.
basing your opinion on specs alone is useless. Try it out. Being efficient makes it much faster.

4 days ago
kelpdiver

arbux- for interactive, one picture at a time usage, PS spends most of its time waiting on the user. The Ipad Pro today has more cpu than the majority of the systems I ran photoshop on over the past 20 years. This is why PC sales in general have been declining. For most users, it got fast enough a while back.

4 days ago
chadley_chad
chadley_chad

I’d perhaps look at buying it, but I’m sure not gonna bow to Adobes new money grabber scheme and pay a monthly fee to rent it!

6 days ago
shigzeo
shigzeo

Pretty sure Adobe went that route because everyone pirated it. In fact I knew next to no one that bought it back when it was at retail. People did of course but everyone was passing around diaks and disk images.

6 days ago
chadley_chad
chadley_chad

This has been debated endlessly here, and piracy the main reason ruled out long ago! What it will do, is cause new instances of piracy, if possible, imo.

6 days ago
shigzeo
shigzeo

Many things have been debated and debated and debated. It’s part of the human condition and proves that narratives rather than anything else rule out in the end.

I’m paying less now than I was when I put out for CS series but then I change computers and cameras often and need the latest support. Others may not and that may be a weak link for the subscription model. I don’t even like the subscription model and I won’t defend it. But it makes sense. I didn’t personally know a single person except for a few designers that ever paid for it. That’s an anecdote but it’s a powerful one that gave credence to at least one narrative that shrugs at ththe debate.

6 days ago
Elonlukatski
Elonlukatski

To bad for you. $10 a month is easy and I get all the updates no extra charge.

6 days ago
chadley_chad
chadley_chad

Elonlukatski ... no, too bad for you. In 5 years time when I’m still happily running the CS6 I’ve been using for the past 5 years, I’ll have saved over £1000 on a subscription model, no updates needed. Zero £’s a month is a lot easier!

6 days ago
MyReality
MyReality

Apparently, its not the $10 that you object to, but a "money grabbing" philos0phpy that you object to.
Are you this way about everything that you have to pay for on an automatic payment plan? I think maybe just Adobe.

6 days ago
Elonlukatski
Elonlukatski

Have fun with your old outdate software that won't process the files from the new cameras.

6 days ago
Marcin 3M
Marcin 3M

Elon, when cs6 arrived i've had already abandoned the acr/lr. Just because I did not liked output from this sw. I preferred phaseone or nikon capture nx2.

6 days ago
chadley_chad
chadley_chad

Myreality ... let me correct your assumption.

I like to buy a piece of software as and when I choose fit; not rent it for the only purpose of providing Adobe, or anyone else with the same practice, with a new steady income stream - to my detriment. Its Akin to being told you can no longer buy your house, you have to rent instead. I might get the house redecorated every year or so, but I still don’t own house. This might be fine with you, but I clearly value my hard earned cash a little more!

4 days ago*
chadley_chad
chadley_chad

Elonukatski ... I have no issues with my current PS accepting any of my camera files ... and not everyone shoots entirely in RAW, so your point is pretty much invalid. Enjoy being a feeder to Adobe each month!

4 days ago
MyReality
MyReality

@chadley_chad - My reply to you above has to do with the relativity among items that people spend money on. Owning is not always better than renting, but that was not my point and that is not for this discussion.
If you buy a house, and then it makes you mad that you have to pay a small amount for electricity, why are you mad? You should be much more angry at the bank that controls a much larger payment due by you.
Adobe is asking $10/month, how much is your car loan, your gym membership, bills for clothes, etc.

4 days ago
Elonlukatski
Elonlukatski

Chad I pay for things I want. Adobe is giving me what I want. The auto updates are so handy so easy. I always have the up to date top flight photo editing software and never have to think about it. For less than the price of one Hamburger meal a month I get photoshop and Lightroom and all the updates.

4 days ago
shigzeo
shigzeo

Chadly:

Owning a house is hardly like owning software. The house isn't obsoleted by independent software or hardware platforms. Its pipes and electricity can be upgraded to meet new standards, and, properly treated, can last hundreds of years (assuming it's not a pre-fab nightmare). Software is as diametrically opposed to a house, rent, or own, as a thing can be. Which is a shame, because you were sort of on a roll.

4 days ago
chadley_chad
chadley_chad

Ok, forget the house analogy ... let’s just say I’d rather pay the £200 (or whatever it was I originally paid) and enjoy for 10 years (as will be the case), rather than pay £1,200 based on Adobes new payment model. That £1000 is better off in my pocket, I don’t need the upgrades, I own the software and unlike those paying monthly, I’ll ALWAYS have access to it. Stop paying you monthly fee and then what?

... but knock yourselves out if you’ve got the money to burn on yet another monthly payment coming out your bank ... alongside everything else!

3 days ago
Elonlukatski
Elonlukatski

Chad when you buy photoshop and Lightroom and the updates the old way. How many months at $10 does it take to come up with that amount of money. The two would cost close to $1000 the old way can you do the math.

3 days ago
chadley_chad
chadley_chad

Elonlukatski ... I purchased CS6 over 5 years ago at an education price of under £200. I expect to be using it happily still in another 5 years ... so maybe you should go do those maths again, as per my original comment (which you clearly didn’t read or understand)

3 days ago
MiraShootsNikon

It better be able to run desktop actions, droplets, etc.

The strength of Photoshop remains its extensibility--particularly, one's ability to save and speed through complicated adjustment sets or batch-process en masse.

If I have to make all of my actions, droplets, and batches all over again, I will not be pleased.

1 week ago
Elonlukatski
Elonlukatski

Give it some time and you will be able to load it with all kinds of useless plug ins and actions right from the Apple store. Maybe even an Angry birds brush.

6 days ago
MyReality
MyReality

@Elonlukatski - Photoshop seems to be "useless" to a lot of pros using it.

6 days ago*
Kiwisnap

For me - and many other professionals I know - PS is simply too much. LR does just fine for a huge proportion of general work editing and processing in a much more user friendly way.
For the few instances where PS manipulation is genuinely necessary it is cheaper to outsource that work to PS professional users who get it done in a fraction of the time at modest cost, which can usually be billed to clients anyway.

6 days ago
skanter
skanter

Lightroom for iPad is OK in a pinch, but would not want to spend much time there. I can’t imagine PS being much different. I use Loupedeck with LR, so somewhat spoiled with terrific tactile interface.

1 week ago
Fezhat

I use Loupedeck with LR as well Photoshop is like InDesign for me it requires a desktop lots of real estate
I have Affinity but rarely use it too fiddly on a small screen plus most of my small screen stuff is look > a quick PP > post >>>>>>> delete sometimes the iphone has done all the PP for me
ps I don't even bother with a laptop it collects dust

6 days ago*
Elonlukatski
Elonlukatski

The iPad is like working on a Wacom tablet. Very hands on in a more natural way and if you want you can set it up to play on a larger screen.

3 days ago
Fezhat

.......but not as good as my wacom cintiq 24 touch the ipad is ok for sketches and ideas but not when a finished product is needed. The difference is that graphics and image making is not your bread and butter

3 days ago*
princecody
princecody

Does this require another stupid Adobe subscription?

1 week ago
MyReality
MyReality

It seems to be "stupid" to a lot of pros using it.

6 days ago*
DarnGoodPhotos

You only need one subscription, not another one.

4 days ago
timberD

what about waiting for the software to come out first before criticizing it ..
I , for one reserve mu judgment .....

1 week ago
shigzeo
shigzeo

There’s always one.

6 days ago
MyReality
MyReality

A thinker, unusual on this site. The US will never be able to land someone on the moon(satire).

6 days ago
photoMEETING

On a MS Surface Pro, Photoshop is already working well...

1 week ago
melgross
melgross

Not that well. In addition Windows still doesn’t have a systemwide color management system. Well, it does, but it’s turned off because, basically, it’s very buggy, and doesn’t actually work.

6 days ago
Mortal Lion
Mortal Lion

I heard tablets are yesterdays news

1 week ago
danielw2599

Tablets might be at saturation point, that doesn't mean they are obsolete.

6 days ago
Fezhat

The lack of realestate is the main concern even the biggest ipad pro doesn’t lend itself for intricate work. When one takes in account the workspace for tools etc it is like working on a postage stamp. Lightoom for ipad is a prime example a diminished image size, snapseed set up is more tablet friendly

1 week ago*
shigzeo
shigzeo

I use serif’s Photo. Works really well and just as good for intricate stuff. You just zoom in, that’s all.

6 days ago
melgross
melgross

Plenty of people use 13” notebooks to get some photoshop done, even though most of those screens are just uncalibrated sRGB on Windows. Considering that the iPad Pro 12.9” is about a 13” screen, but had 2700 x 200 resolution, and DCI-P3 phosphors, and is calibrated with Apple’s built-in color management, the screen isn’t an issue. Many people have been using a 12” Wacom screen with far lower resolution, and poorer color.

Yes, even with a keyboard it’s not the same. But that doesn’t mean it won’t work well. The other editors on the iPad do work quite well, other than those apps own problems. This will be a great success.

6 days ago
Fezhat

That’s great for spreadsheets and graphs but doesn’t cut in with photography nor video rendering

3 days ago
Elonlukatski
Elonlukatski

I tried the Reflector 2 which uses airplay to mirror my iPad on my 27" iMac screen works extremely good but honest I prefer to work on the ipad alone. The screen is so sharp and detailed and colors so rich works fantastic for editing on its own. It was cool though to look up and see the larger image ever so many seconds.

3 days ago
DualSystemGuy

I wonder how this is going to work with iPad Pros being nowhere near as powerful as a even a mid-range desktop PC.

1 week ago*
Always Amateur
Always Amateur

Can you run Photoshop on low-end intel PC's? Yes. Then you'll be able to run it on an iPad.

Of course, it'll be optimized for responsiveness on iOS, and will likely be more akin to Lightroom CC than Classic. I'd even put money on it being more responsive at certain things than the desktop version—which, being almost 30 years old, runs amazingly well considering how much crap is in there...

1 week ago
Raist3d

You may be surprise to see how fast an iPad can be when optimized for it. Check out how Affinity Pro performs some operations in near real time thanks to the heavy GPU optimization.

6 days ago
shigzeo
shigzeo

iPad could do with more ram. Some full image effects are slow but most direct image manipulations in serif’s Photo Pro are as fast as desktop in a pretty contemporary workstation.

6 days ago
melgross
melgross

Guys like you always seem to make the wrong comparisons. Since most people work on notebooks, and a lot of Photoshop’s work is done there too, the comparison has to be comparing anipp129 to a notebook. And there, Apple wins. The latest Pro, which I have, is more powerful than many of the notebooks people are already using for Photoshop.

As far as memory goes, iOS has a far lighter footprint in RAM than either MacOS or Windows. So it needs less RAM.

6 days ago
Graham Hilling
Graham Hilling

Affinity Photo on the Ipad is pretty much everything Photoshop is on the PC/Mac. In some areas it is actually better. Same can be said for the PC version of Affinity photo. If you've not taken a look, well worth a nose. It's very powerful software.

1 week ago
DualSystemGuy

The issues I had with the Affinity iPad app were that I couldn't do the most important steps of my PS workflow. Or, maybe I just didn't know how. As far as I could tell:

1) You can't calibrate the screen on an iPad properly, and it is nowhere near as accurate as a proper PC monitor with a LUT. It is also not uniformly backlit and white/black uniformity is average. Right here I probably wouldn't do anything important on it that I would deliver to a client.
2) You can't use Colorchecker Profiles
3) You can't open multiple RAW files at once and quickly edit or batch-edit like you can in ACR. No macros either.
4) No ways to use popular plug-ins like NIK
5) Large high MP RAW files were much slower to work with than on a PC

For basic one-off edits it was fine but for any kind of professional workflow it is lacking critical features, in my opinion. I suspect it's more limited by the fact that the iPad aren't powerful enough. In my opinion it is nowhere near the functionality of PS.

1 week ago
Peter Bendheim
Peter Bendheim

I find that Affinity whilst being capable just tries too hard and worst of all it’s just so complicated to do the simplest task. It’s capable just not intuitive. I personally think this has more to do with the capabilities of the software design team than the hardware.

1 week ago
melgross
melgross

Ive been using it for a while, and I can easily say that you’re wrong. While it has most of the more common features, it’s missing almost everything else.

It’s also,very buggy, and the developers have made a number of serious UI errors, such as forcing you to scroll down huge numbers of filters, etc.

It’s good, but it’s no Photoshop competitor.

6 days ago
jake werner

I would never use Photoshop on an iPad. The screen is too small to make critical decisions.

1 week ago
melgross
melgross

Obviously you never work on a 13” notebook either. A lot of Photoshop users do just that. With much lower resolution screens. I assume you have a high Rez, pro graphics monitor that you keep properly calibrated.

6 days ago
vFunct

Illustrator really needs to be on the iPad. The current iPad drawing tools are so basic.

1 week ago
xb70fan

Try Affinity Designer. One of the “personas” has bezier drawing tools.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qgLoKgMarzg

6 days ago
melgross
melgross

Adobe stated that they are working on Illustrator now, and it will be out after Photoshop.

They want the entire CC Suite on the iPad, eventually.

6 days ago
capeminiol

"The new PhotoShop for iPad Pro now comes bundled with your Creative Cloud Photography Plan. We're raising the subscription price by a very reasonable $2.99 a month. Enjoy your new benefit!"

1 week ago*
DualSystemGuy

If you read the source articles it sounds like it will be included in existing memberships without a price increase.

1 week ago
Raist3d

"It sounds like." Didn't Adobe already raised their subscription once?

6 days ago
Elonlukatski
Elonlukatski

Actually when I added Lightroom to my photoshop subscription the price was lowered. Thank you adobe

6 days ago
Les Kamens

Its about time. I would defiantly buy and iPad if it would run PS as full robust app
other wise its just a bigger iPhone for me

1 week ago
K e n n e t h

Can’t buy it, it’ll be subscription only

1 week ago
danielw2599

Les Kamens
Why not just get a Windows tablet? Why does it have to be an ipad?

6 days ago*
shigzeo
shigzeo

@kenneth:

I’ve read and re-read the OP and convinced he meant to write ‘an’ rather than ‘and’, totally revamping the meaning of the sentence.

6 days ago
Les Kamens

@ Kenneth - Buy an iPad was my sentiment I already have a subscription to Adobe
@danielw2599 - I walked away from windows based machines and all the anxiety it gave me. Not about to go back
@shigzeo - Thanks for pointing out my typo. Yes that should have been An.

6 days ago
Nukunukoo
Nukunukoo

Most likely PS will only run on the Pro versions, which is expected. Two other thoughts: (1) this September, it is likely the time the newer (and more powerful) iPad Pros will be released and using Photoshop as part of that release is a very Apple thing to do. (2) This *may* also mean that Adobe will be taking the ARM64 architecture much more seriously and may pave the way for Apple to shift the Mac away from x86/64. The ARM64 architecture have already proven itself to be more powerful and power-efficient.

1 week ago*
DualSystemGuy

We already know we are getting new iPad Pros this Fall, but they will still not be anywhere near as powerful as even a modest PC. I suspect PS it will still be stripped down to some degree to run properly on an iPad Pro. No way are you going to be able to batch process huge numbers of 40+ MP RAW files, install any plugins you want, etc. I'd be very surprised.

1 week ago
Always Amateur
Always Amateur

I don't think there's any way for developers to target specific iPad models... All of the latest iPad's (pro's or otherwise) are actually quite powerful—not compared to beefier i7 based PC's, but faster than the mobile intel chips.

1 week ago
Raist3d

DualSystemGuy - actually the *current* iPad Pro can compete with a pretty modest PC performance wise for several things - though I guess that depends on what you mean by "pretty modest PC"

6 days ago*
Nukunukoo
Nukunukoo

Considering that the transistor count of a top-end Snapdragon (8 full cores) is still less than a fifth of a Quad Core Coffee Lake (desktop) with not much performance difference between them in Linux testing is testimony enough of ARM64's power in the future.

6 days ago
Elonlukatski
Elonlukatski

I was very surprised how powerful my iPad Pro is. Those who haven’t tried one should you will be amazed at what it can do.

6 days ago
DualSystemGuy

Raist3d - We may have a difference in opinion on what a 'modest' PC is, but iPad Pro's are roughly equivalent in processor power to older generation Core M/Y ultra low wattage entry-level laptop processors (something few would try to run Photoshop on). The iPad version would have to be stripped down to some degree to be pleasant. Compared to even an entry level desktop system it would not even remotely compare - the iPad's aren't bad per-se, it's just not a fair comparison with wattages, IPC, cores, etc.

4 days ago*
Elonlukatski
Elonlukatski

No not even true at all and I know because I have one. It will run photoshop with large raw files just fine you wait and see. I process raw files everyday using Lightroom and other programs and it us blazingly fast. IOS has a much smaller ram foot print and those Arm processors are very powerful. People are talking out if your (censored) because you are just making things up. I own one and I use it I know what it can do.

4 days ago
DualSystemGuy

The funny thing about facts is it doesn't really matter what you think, they're still true. A sub-10 watt processor in an iPad can't even come close to the power of a desktop PC processor which run at much, much, higher wattages and clock speeds with more cores.

I have an iPad Pro 10.5" with Affinity, Lightroom, and Luma Fusion (for video). It is not what I would consider fast. My kids mostly use it now for browsing and YouTube because it can't really do any of the things I need it to do in a professional RAW editing workflow.

Try to load 50+ 60MB RAW files and batch process them. Try to load a Colorchecker Profile. Try to load a plugin. Try to calibrate the screen. Let me know how you make out with all that on your supercompu...er sorry, iPad.

4 days ago*
Elonlukatski
Elonlukatski

Well your desktop can’t run as fast as a super computer the size of Nantucket either. Bla bla bla. I am telling you that this iPad Pro will process any size raw file blistering fast. I know because I do it.

4 days ago
Elonlukatski
Elonlukatski

And let’s see you pack that desktop with you in a plane or in the car. Let’s see you put it that sucker in your camera bag. This is a MOBIL device so comparing it to a desktop is stupid.

4 days ago
Nukunukoo
Nukunukoo

Funny, DualSystemsGuy, I have the 2017 12.9 Pro (256GB) with Affinity, ProCreate and LumaFusion. I export my quick SDE weddings in 4K with literal blazing speeds (I own Windows and a MBP mid-2016). My only issue with LumaFusion is the three layer limit for video (one already dedicated for Titling). And Affinity? You call that slow? Well sure maybe when you batch process some files (never need to do it with Affinity). And huh? Slow loading a Colorchecker Profile? Plugins? An occasional task has speed issues? And as I also do LR, for RAW on all platforms (OK, I may only have D810 36MP files) but the conversion is fast, the uploads are slow. This is why I KNOW you either don't have an iPad pro or you never really know how to use them.

4 days ago*
Elonlukatski
Elonlukatski

Exactly

4 days ago
ShaiKhulud
ShaiKhulud

Yeah, let's release it first on a closed sanboxed ecosystem with painful file management and nonexitent direct camera connection interafce. Solid plan.

Look, I love my iPad, but photo editing is why I also use iMac and MacBook Pro 15''. iPad will be my least possible companion for a portable Photoshop work.

1 week ago
Ribbit74

There won’t be any file management per se. It will use Creative Cloud.

1 week ago
ShaiKhulud
ShaiKhulud

So it will be utterly pointless in the field with all that RAWs on my SD card? Welp. Fantastic!

1 week ago*
photo_rb

I agree, and until there is some improvement in the two issues you mention, I don't see myself going this route. Maybe ideal for those photographers (and I'm sure there are some pros) who's main camera is an iPhone.

1 week ago
Gmon750

So then don't buy it. Others will.

1 week ago
Boomanbb
Boomanbb

It's relatively easy to import full size RAW files through the iPad Pro to lightroom and sync later on. Lightroom on the iPad is just like Lightroom CC on your computer and just as fast. I've got around 20,000 images synced to my iPad. It's very convenient.

1 week ago
Graham Hilling
Graham Hilling

LR Sync with the desktop is unusable here, way too slow and it's not my internet which is running at 50mb/s download, 15mb/s upload. However, you can definitely put RAW on an Ipad pro and then sync using Mylio which is a ton quicker. Shame Mylio is not as capable an editor/developer as LR mobile and you have to add an extra piece of software into the workflow.

Defintely a shame that Apple decided to cripple Ipad Pro, like all their products, with the sandboxed ecosystem and inadequate file mgmt.

1 week ago
PhilDunn
PhilDunn

"So it will be utterly pointless in the field with all that RAWs on my SD card? Welp. Fantastic!"

I transfer RAWs from my RX100V to my iPad mini 4 all the time with the SD card adapter. The non-pro models transfer at USB 2 speeds and the Pro models at USB 3 speeds. In my case the files transfer around one a second.

1 week ago
photo_rb

For those of you who do this, how easy would it be to work with several hundred RAW images averaging 50MB each with sketchy or no internet? I'm thinking this is not very doable but I'd love to be set straight.

1 week ago
String
String

Just run a Surface Pro, problem solved.

1 week ago
PhilDunn
PhilDunn

An iPad has many advantages over the Surface Pro.

1 week ago
Graham Hilling
Graham Hilling

If you have an Ipad Pro, getting the RAWs in is a piece of cake, they transfer quickly and easily using the SD card reader. However, this is where the issues with Apple mentality start. Once on the camera roll, they then need to be duplicated to whatever application you are using to manage them, be this LR mobile, Mylio or whatever. Once in this application you then have the issue with syncing which has to be done over the internet or your local network if using Mylio.

Surface is nice but it runs windows and whichever way you look at it, the OS is really not as nice when travelling, especially with the myriad of apps available on the Ipad that add value at every turn.

Trust me, I've tried all of these solutions, and have a requirement to manage upwards of 500 large raw images while making relatively short journeys. There is no perfect solution at present but the Ipad Pro ticks quite a lot of boxes, although it is not without frustrations!

6 days ago
Boomanbb
Boomanbb

You can disable sync until you get to a quality wifi area. You want to also delete the images from the camera roll after importing them into Lightroom.

6 days ago
Elonlukatski
Elonlukatski

I direct connect my camera to my iPad Pro using the cameras built in WiFi and app. Works great and is very fast. With my old camera I use the card reader that plugs into the lighting port same thing.

6 days ago
photo_rb

Thanks! When you talk about syncing, do you mean the RAW files or just the preview files? Sorry for the ignorance but I don't use the cloud for photos. I can't see myself in many situations where I have the internet speed and bandwidth to transfer gigabytes of data.

6 days ago
Graham Hilling
Graham Hilling

If you're out and about and shooting you'll want to xfer RAW and certainly that is what I'm talking about when plugging a card reader into the Ipad - works well and is super fast on an Ipad Pro. Once they're in the apple eco system though, you'll need to work out how to get therm out!

5 days ago
Graham Hilling
Graham Hilling

btw, the issue with slow syncing to Adobe servers is not wifi at my end, appears to be at the Adobe end. Google for it, there's a lot of people complaining. If it was faster I would (almost) happily pay for the extra space on the Adobe cloud. As it is at the moment, it takes several hours to sync a few hundred raws....which Mylio will do in maybe 30 minutes across the local network.

5 days ago*
cosinaphile

as t says above " the underpowered iPad pro "

perfect for the new normal in creative photography done with the lentil-sized sensor of the iPhone

the whole shebang goes "under" in concert

underpowered computing for underpowered photography

is there a monthly fee for the app? of will tthe user "own"it?

1 week ago*
Raist3d

Have you seen Affinity Pro on an iPad Pro running? Hardly underpowered.

6 days ago
Elonlukatski
Elonlukatski

The article was obviously written by a 13 year old windows fan boy. Pay him no attention. I load and process raw images and edit 4K video everyday on my iPad Pro and it is very very fast. Faster than my laptop and competes with my i5 IMac

6 days ago
Timur Born
Timur Born

Unfortunately this means again that the money I pay for desktop products is put more into dividends and developing tablet products than improving said desktop products. Too bad.

1 week ago
Chuckmet

Right on brother, that's why I won't buy a DSLR, what if they take the profits and develope mirrorless cameras with it, oh the horror! Seriously, Adobe updates PS and Lightroom several times a year as well as supporting many other current and developing software products. No worries!

1 week ago
Timur Born
Timur Born

If DSLR makers neglect investing in DSLR development then yes, don't give them your money.

New feature updates and performance updates as quite far and in between for LS/PS. You get new camera updates for LR/Camera RAW and some small upgrades here and there, but the big updates still take years rather than months.

The Print dialog has been bugged and not seen new features since I first used it. I pay subscription since 2014.

Implementing multi-threading support for various functions in LR has taken many years and it still doesn't fully scale to high CPU count CPUs. There still is no native support for network drives and collaboration with catalogs. The program still even has to restart just to open another catalog. A new demosaicing algorithm should be implemented that doesn't deliberately blur finest details (to mask labyrinth pattern artifacts).

All stuff that needs manpower and financial investment. Most news from Adobe center around tablet and cloud development, though.

1 week ago*
shigzeo
shigzeo

@timur:

And if you really like dSLRS but refuse to buy one because those profits might go to mirrorless development you’ve basically ensured that there won’t be dSLRs from any maker in the future. Buy what works and what you need.

6 days ago
Jeff_Donald
Jeff_Donald

I purchased Affinity when it was $50 and I use it on my iPad, but would gladly switch to PS. I may be the exception, but I'd even pay upwards of $50 for it. I understand many people wanting something for nothing, so I don't expect it to be "free" with the subscription. However, if it's more than $1 a month (in addition to the $10/month I pay now), I'd probably pass. Hard to justify $25 a year when Affinity does so much.

1 week ago
Peter Bendheim
Peter Bendheim

Agreed that for the money Affinity does so much, but why does it have to make even the smallest task such a complicated ball ache?

1 week ago
ELLIOT74

I would use it on my Ipad Pro if it is part of the overall eco system that Adobe has developed through the creative cloud. The ability to sync across desk top and mobile is something that Adobe was smart enough to do early on.

I am not necessarily a fan of Adobe but because of the current eco system I use it in conjunction with other desktop app like Alien Skin.

1 week ago
Elonlukatski
Elonlukatski

Snarky little wording saying “rewriting its software forApple’s underpowered tablet”. I have the iPad Pro with 256 GB of memory. I work with 4K video and large raw and tiff files everyday. This iPad is amazingly powerful and I never have any troubles. Are you 13 you write like it.

1 week ago
ELLIOT74

I picked up on that stupid remark from from Dpreview as well. I do one heck of a lot of processing on my Ipad Pro using Lightroom Mobile while on the go. It has never, NEVER had a problem handling the files or the syncing of those files. Snarky is a great description of that really uncalled for remark. Thanks.

1 week ago
Lars Rehm
Lars Rehm

well, you must have overlooked the bit where I am saying "compared to desktop computers anyway"...

1 week ago
ELLIOT74

lars I did not overlook it at all. I know exactly what the writer meant when I read the whole article and picked up the snide remark just like Elonluatski did.

1 week ago
Lars Rehm
Lars Rehm

I am impressed you know better than myself what I am thinking when I am writing ;)

1 week ago
ShaiKhulud
ShaiKhulud

>This iPad is amazingly powerful and I never have any troubles.
Try batch processing. Good luck.

1 week ago
Einride

Indeed, a cheap and silly bait sentence. It’s not even trying to be funny.
The laptop part is a stupid cover attempt. Some really classy writing there champ.

1 week ago
cosinaphile

it was properly qualified by the phrase "compared to a desktop computer "

its a valid point to consider as adobe products sometimes struggle with powerful computers, it will be interesting to see what adobe does to make this run adequately on a tablet ... who knows maybe pleasant surprises are n store

its a tag line designed to be provocative , but it happens to be true , even if it does not thrill the apple lovers ....

1 week ago*
cosinaphile

it will also be interesting to see if apple insists on sandboxing the application , or will allow the rare reprieve to adobe due to power needs

1 week ago
DualSystemGuy

There are no iPads with 256GB of memory, the pro's max out at 4GB on the newest 2017 versions. For someone so confident of it's performance and so concerned about wording, you don't even know what you bought...maybe learning about your iPad Pro and basic terminology would be a good place to start.

The approximate power of an iPad Pro is roughly on par with a several generation old laptop running an ultra-low voltage entry level processor (core M/Y) with integrated graphics, 4GB of slow RAM and a very slow SSD.

To put that in perspective, you are roughly comparing a 5-6 watt processor running at a low clock speed with a fraction of the threads found in even mid-range desktop processor to a 60-120W TDP 6-8 core hyperthreaded unit with better IPC and access to a lot more RAM, a proper GPU, much faster storage, etc. They are also completely different architectures, and a lot of comparisons out there are highly misleading.

1 week ago*
Elonlukatski
Elonlukatski

My iPad has 256 GB of memory or storage if you prefer. It also has something called virtual memory that uses that 256 GB. So it has 4GB of dedicated fast ram and then will off load some of the things it will be using to vertical memory on the 256 GB memory or storage if you prefer. I am telling you from experience because I have one and you obviously don’t. So you are talking out your ass. It edits 4K video and large raw and tiff files as fast as I can throw at it. The little machine has been designed to very efficiently use the memory and processor.

1 week ago
Elonlukatski
Elonlukatski

“Think about it: The top configured 2017 MacBook Pro 13-inch costs roughly 3 times more than the top configured 2017 iPad Pro,” BareFeats notes. “Yet the laptop is only slightly faster running CPU intensive apps and slower running the GPU intensive apps.”

1 week ago
Elonlukatski
1 week ago
cosinaphile

virtual memory is the name for that .... widows used that approach a lot
back in windows 95 and beyond when 16 or 32 mb [ not gb] could cost 800 to 1600 us dollars ... today this ancient approach to suppliment ram is much less seen in the windows universe , at least in premium products

is apple actually using this approach in the ipad pro????

1 week ago
Peter Bendheim
Peter Bendheim

An unnecessary snarky remark that seems just a tad unprofessional- just a tad, as in borderline
- sent from my underpowered iPad

1 week ago
cosinaphile

peter it was irresistible ... but no one has told me if my suspicions are correct...

as for unprofessional? yes ....yes it is ... all my pro bono apple digs are uncompensated, by definition

if its underpowered, just add some ram .....oh wait ...

[kidding]

1 week ago*
Raist3d

@Lars - "I am impressed you know better than myself what I am thinking when I am writing ;)"

Maybe you could write/communicate what you meant better in the first place then? :-)

6 days ago
Raist3d

@cosinaphile "its a tag line designed to be provocative , but it happens to be true , even if it does not thrill the apple lovers ...."

How exactly "it happens to be true?" Affinity Pro does a lot in real time or near real time. Whether you like Affinity Pro or not, it's besides the point.

6 days ago
Raist3d

@DualSystemGuy - "There are no iPads with 256GB of memory, the pro's max out at 4GB on the newest 2017 versions. For someone so confident of it's performance and so concerned about wording, you don't even know what you bought...maybe learning about your iPad Pro and basic terminology would be a good place to start."

You may want to consider the lower overhead that iOS exacts vs the overhead Windows or bigger OSes exact. Also the fact you have less variation of configuration meaning you can optimize better. So it's not exactly as straightforward as you are proposing.

6 days ago
brycesteiner
brycesteiner

@cosinaphile:
>>virtual memory is the name for that .... widows used that approach a lot
back in windows 95 and beyond when 16 or 32 mb [ not gb] could cost 800 to 1600 us dollars ... today this ancient approach to suppliment ram is much less seen in the windows universe , at least in premium products<<

You might want to stop talking now as you have no clue. It is still done, even more so than then. It's just called "caching" now rather than virtual memory.

4 days ago
cosinaphile

of course it is ..

.it has to be when you devise maker forbids upgrades in any way shape or form

cache? lol, hHhHHhhHhhaahahahaha

its been given a new name.... never mind lol

as someone who does not do apple, you will forgive me the uncontrollable laughter i

dont get me wrong ... apple exceeds anything in the windows universe when it comes to efficiency and best use of limited resources

with great control comes great possibility and Apple has proved itself as doing great things with small amounts of ram ... genius level stuff

4 days ago*
brycesteiner
brycesteiner

@Lars
>>I am impressed you know better than myself what I am thinking when I am writing ;)<<

Could you elaborate then on your less than subtle comment to us who need to learn to understand what someone is trying to communicate, you know, for educational purposes?

"underpowered tablet" would be compared to what other tablet? You may have 'clarified' it by putting computer next to it but that still doesn't make sense. It's like saying that a dump truck is better because it can haul more dirt but if the goal is to get somewhere quick with a box to drop off, a car will certainly be faster and more efficient.

4 days ago*
adjp

Guys, the ipad pro is way faster than any desktop. Lots of people use the ipad to sort photos in lightroom as it is faster than the desktop to do so... It is software optimized for the hardware it has. I expect the photoshop to be very fast as well.

3 days ago
TylerQ
TylerQ

Too little, too late. Affinity Photo blows them away.

1 week ago
Always Amateur
Always Amateur

Yeah that's why pro's the world round have dropped photoshop like the sack of sh*t it is! Oh wait...

But seriously, Affinity Photo is nice to have on iOS, but feels like a cut rate Photoshop knock-off ported from the desktop.

1 week ago
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