Apple rumored to work on 5-inch iPhone with vertical dual-cam

heres a second opinion,,,,get the axon 7. Its superior iq, for camera emergency use or web use. The only uses a camera phone should see imho.
... the axon has superb build, superb headphones ,a powerful processor 64gb with sd expansion good battery superb loud speakers a much better screen that phones made by apple ... it beats or meets anythiing made by samsung or apple...stronger glass and a 349 usd pricetag

there's lots of cameras used and new that are tiny enough to carry anywhere choose any camera that has a 1 \1.7 sensor or larger anything smaller simply give a subpar quality for a hundred bucks you can get
a used lx5 a fuji xq1 panny lf1 etc

i cannot for the life of me understand why people spend twice as much on samsung and apple phones with sometimes worse specs
i can only attribute this the crowd behavior dynamics or peer pressure or lack of confidence in choosing technology in the general public ... or a phenomenon ive yet to consider

rofl

no........ in any given field of possibilities there are acceptable or better options ,and ones , newly built that use smaller sensors .... one of my strongest criticisms of apple , for instance is their use of smaller poorer sensors than other phones in their newest models .... and not "better" at all

they keep making new phones and new cameras because our shallow consumer drone throwaway society demands them.... you're confusing newer with better

Name one Android phone that's big screen, dual camera and water proof? Yeah, there is none. Apple not only is ahead of the curve they also throw in dual-speaker, quad-flash and 3D Touch.

Good question. LCD has better colour accuracy and less colour shift. It also has FAR lower power consumption at full brightness (but slightly higher at low and medium brightness).

I don't care for OLED colours, but the screen technology does have its uses. For one, when you want to glance at the time at night, or in a dark room, OLED screens can be very dim, which is great. LCD screens are always completely backlit, making it relatively bright. My old Nokia 925 had a "Glance" feature, and I really liked it.

My biggest issue with OLED is the (relatively) shorter lives of blue organic LEDs versus red and green, which results, from day one of use, with a gradual "yellowing" of the colour. This is not a problem with LCDs.

Brian

Cant beat a good rumor.
There is a rumor that Canon and Nikon will soon produce a SLR style mirrorless camera.
Rumor or safe bet.

I wonder how come Apple never thought of that...

Aroart:

Panasonic already used that 1" Sony sensor in an Android phone.

It doesn't seem to have sold well for Panasonic. Much better photos than all iPhones of course.

My QTEK 9090 had it all, touch screen, a pen, keyboard, internet, wifi, e-mail, a camera, sd card slot, and it was a phone, too. It was also known as HTC Blue Angel. Bought it in ca 2004. It's still working.

I'd say the way into it were the PALM handheld devices (ca 2001?), then, also, somehow the (in)famous Nokia Communicator. HP built iPAQ smartphones, before Apple.

So basically, Apple took all of those innovations, threw them into the mixer and blended them into the first iPhone. Probably they did ask themselves "will it blend" - guess it did.

I have tried their phones every once in a while, but was always frustrated about the interrupted workflow (yeah, I know, it's the programmers fault, extensions missing, etc), but on an Android phone, this was all much smoother for quite a while. Now, the 6s Plus is the one iPhone where I think they made a really good device. It is working quite to my liking.. I am not sure yet about the 7 Plus.. I think the 6s Plus was some sort of a peak..

The only flaw it has: they should have packed all those 6S Plus features into a 5.2-4.7 phone, as well..

@Quarter. There is always someone who says "But Prada phone" as a way to prove that the iPhone wasn't innovative. What that wiki doesn't tell you is how inferior the experience was.

But this should answer how "innovative" the Prada phone was:
http://gizmodo.com/261172/settling-this-iphone-vs-lg-prada-nonsense

@DBaechil. That phone, and all like it had a resistive touch screen; making it larger wouldn't turn it into a captive multitouch screen.

There was a reason why Google scrapped their original idea for Android, which was basically a Moto Q clone without a touchscreen, as soon as they saw the first iPhone.

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/12/the-day-google-had-to-start-over-on-android/282479/

HowAboutRaw - what your said makes absolutely no bearable to the validity of my point. And no, not everyone who derided it for that was working for a competitor- there are what seems to be "apple is doomed" career journalists that all they are waiting for is an Apple misstep to cry "see, I told you so."

Nothing you said changes the innovation claim and the example I mentioned.

Raist3d:

Here's what I wrote:

"Those doing the so called panning were often working for the likes of Microsoft or Blackberry. " So that's not everyone.

Don't insert terms into my statements to make your point valid, it weakens whatever point you think you have.

You from directly above, though it has nothing to do with your invention of a statement for me, but you slipped it in there:

"there are what seems to be "apple is doomed" career journalists that all they are waiting for is an Apple misstep to cry "see, I told you so.""

First, this waiting for a misstep isn't new to Apple, second the first iPhone was a troubled, if very interesting, device.

In 1997, without the return Steve Jobs, Apple probably would have gone under.

As for innovation, as I already said everyone understood that faster web-capable phones were coming, I'd didn't say anything about innovation or lack of innovation in the iPhone. Again, don't put words into my arguments to change them to suit your ends.

@darngooddesign

I think they should have made the iPhone 6S Plus (which is a 5.7" phone) feature pack also available or their smaller phones.. Not bigger..

Except for OIS and size, there really isn't much difference between the 6 and 6S.

HowAboutRaw- Ok- correction on everyone taken, I don't see how your point invalidates what I said. It's really a different thing. And I dispute its as "often working for"

In 1997 without Steve Apple would have gone under- sure. So? I mean, what does this have to do with the innovation aspect of Apple point? Steve co-founded Apple after all, and the point was that Innovation seems to be always easy in hindsight.

I mention this because your reply of "web capable phones were on the way" may not be as trivial in use as you suggest, and you make points that quite frankly don't follow up with the subject under discussion anyway.

But I will take your feedback on a few points - thanks for clarifying.

Oh, and on the "twist to suit my ends" please. There's no big agenda here.

Raist3D,

The subject under discussion is the claim by the OP about Motorola flip phones--devices that were far from already existent webphones of 2005/6.

Again, in 2006, everyone understood that new faster web capable phones were in the future, how near that future was to be is a somewhat different question.

Apple's greatest innovation regarding the iPhone is not the touch only user interface, it's taking control of development away from the idiotic carriers--which until then controlled how phones were designed and deployed.

Touch screen is definitively an area the innovated because of the way they did it. In fact, Att scratched their head when they were told not to worry amour certain buttons.

My point is there were several innovations and it's easy to brush them away in hindsight. That said thanks for your other clarifications.

Raist3d,

And nowhere did I say that leaping to touch only, almost, was not an innovation--what I said was that the biggest innovation was taking the delelopment away from the carriers.

Thanks again for clarifying though I don't think in the context of technological innovation that is an opinion I would agree with, but I understand.

Raist3d:

In 2000 I believe, perhaps early 2001, a friend of mine, who was perfectly computer literate, went out of his way to remember and disparage a point that I'd made to him in the middle of 1999.

And my point was that better search engines were going to be vastly important for the internet. I'd implied too that they'd be a good investment.

Albeit the Apple App store didn't have the greatest search engine last time I checked; one had to use Google to find an application that did what you wanted, then enter that name, but the Apple App store is huge deal in terms of technology and innovation.

I think you need to remember that centralized systems that deliver software that people want/need easily is big deal, and is very different from say how one got software in 1995.

I honestly don't know what this has to do with what I said, nor do I find myself necessarily disagreeing with you on what you just said- just to me a different point.

Raist3d,

I guess I'd thought that you were trying to say the touch interface of the iPhone was the most innovative part, and that I'd claimed that innovation was obvious before the iPhone. (I don't think the touch only GUI was obvious, nor do I think it was necessarily going to be done at all correctly. But Apple succeeded--well except for still not having a right click equivalent.)

So I was trying to give an example of why whole systems, the App Store, here, or Google, are significant innovations.

I still think the greatest innovation of the iPhone was taking the design process away from the idiotic carriers.

Just like I think the greatest innovation of Amazon, the retailer, not the cloud storage company, was to quickly understand the importance of having a good search engine. If Walmart, Sears, Target, Macy's, etc had understood this necessity they'd be much stronger retailers today. (The industrial supply company McMaster did and is still ahead of Grainger.)

(...But Apple succeeded--well except for still not having a right click equivalent.)

Long press is the right click equivilent.

darngooddesign,

No, not really.

Yes really.

Long press will bring up a right-click style menu of choices. Just because that menu doesn't have everything found on OS X, does not mean it isn't a right-click menu.

For example:

OSX right click on link - Open link in new tab, open link in new window, Download, Add link to bookmarks, Add link to reading list, etc.

iOS long press on link - Open, Open in new tab, Add to reading list, Copy, etc.

darngooddesign:

Indeed, I've tried it, and it's pretty limited. Also right click is hardly only about copy/paste and download. Try right click when using PhotoShop or Solidworks.

Apple needs to work it out. There is a method. It doesn't even require a second button.

iOS has right click, the long press no button required, whether it is robust enough is subjective.

Apple cant sort out long press on someone else's app and many apps, like LightRoom mobile, have more robust long press than just copy and download. The way you are discussing it makes me think you have limited exposure to iOS.

darngood,

It's pretty far from right click.

There are ways to fix it.

No, I don't use iOS. However, this problem is not going to be fixed with variations of longer click.

Right-click is merely a menu of actions you can take related to the thing you right clicked on. That is what long-press is and it is up to the app developer to populate that menu. Some developers do a good job with it, others do not.

Saying that iOS doesn't have a "right-click" menu is factually incorrect; perhaps you should avoid making factual claims about an OS you have next to no experience with.

darngooddesign"

"Saying that iOS doesn't have a "right-click" menu is factually incorrect; perhaps you should avoid making factual claims about an OS you have next to no experience with."

Okay then, Apple has a really horrid fake right click in iOS, that really isn't helpful beyond copy and paste.

"Right-click is merely a menu of actions you can take related to the thing you right clicked on." And that menu system within iOS seems to be really limited, this is a failure Apple and right click.

"next to no experience with"?

I've used iOS enough to know that it is unacceptably complex to clear Safari's cache, this is another failure of Apple and iOS; real right click could help Apple here. It would also likely take a virtual button in GUI.

iOS has the right click long press. If you are going to complain about it you need to be specific about the app and element you long pressed. Lightroom's long press is different from Safari, is different from Fantastical, etc. Just sayin "Apple" is vague and doesn't actually provide useful info.

To clear the cache
1. Press the bookmarks icon to the left of the url field
2. Select History
3. Press clear at the bottom of the history panel.

Not particularly complex and none of the main desktop browsers have clear cache built into the right click. Of course if you are clearing your cache every hour you'll probable want two press access to it, but you haven't had to go into the settings app to do that in a couple of iOS versions.

Again, I don't think you have much experience with recent versions of iOS.

You are correct that the long press could stand to have a few more options in some places.

darngood:

Apple iOS is the OS and right click is near useless there. Apple can work it out.

I'd tried that Safari cache clearing trick with a recent iOS and it didn't work, will try again. If it works as you say, that is indeed an improvement.

Besides cache-clearing what do you need long-press to do?

darngooddesign:

So on a current iPad, I just tried that cache clearing via the method you posted, and history clearing/retrieval was not an option. I'll try the same thing on an iPhone tomorrow.

I don't necessarily think that right click should be accessed by long press, but true that haptic feature has improved, so more features, like those you'd use to edit photos, texts, CAD drawings--depends on the program one is running as you know.