More information released on Yongnuo YN 50mm F1.4 II

I am very interested how it performs. It's substantially lighter and cheaper to high end 3rd party solutions (not really smaller) and has reasonable MFD.
Having a micro USB port to update lens firmware (and maybe adjust focus) on the lens is a funny thing and maybe a very useful feature.

Just waiting for the first formal or non-formal tests of that lens especially at f/1.4 - if it delivers corner to corner sharpness wide open and has a pleasing bokeh it will be a very interesting option for "lousy" 150-200 EUR.

3 months agopermalink

otto k

Corner to corner sharpness at 1.4? Do you know any actual lens that does that?

3 months agopermalink

Corner to corner sharpness was meant as good corner2corner sharpness.

This is available with Sigma Art 50mm and OTUS 55mm and now wit RF 50mm ...

3 days agopermalink

otto k

You are seriously expecting a 200eur Yongnuo lens to be at the level of 3000eur Zeiss? Of the lenses I shot, none were edge to edge, let alone corner to corner, sharp - this includes Nikkor 50/1.4 and new 58, Sigma Art 50, Canon 50/1.4, manual Pentax, Konica, etc. Seriously, they are sharp to 2/3 and after f/2 to edges, but not at 1.4.

3 days agopermalink

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Never and that was not what I have written. I was not clear in my last post: I think OTUS has very good to excellent corner sharpness wide open and sigma Art has good to very good c2c sharpness - I expect only good corner to corner sharpness for real photos and not for astronomy/reconnaissance/pixel peeping.

It should be possible to do a mechanically simple but optically better lens with maybe inferior AF without manual override by a low cost manufacturer for half the price. If someone has a great idea about lens design which is supported by the cut views of this yongnuo. I expected good corner to corner sharpness with Youngnuo.

If you search for it in yout ube you will see that the old Canon has much lower contrast in the corners and the sharpness PERCEPTION of the yongnuo wide open is better. But the bottom line is: Not much better wide open - doesn't improve while stopping it down.

Thats all.

3 days agopermalink

chulgor

Is the front element really small for a f/1.4 lens, or is the barrel just really thick?

3 months agopermalink

The barrel is thick: max. diameter is 81mm.

The outer surface of the front element is concave, which is uncommon.

3 months agopermalink

gameshoes3003

T H I C C

3 months agopermalink

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@Mistral75:
The concave front elements outer surface is uncommon but just the EF-M 22mm lens has it and if memory serves well some Fuji lenses have it (checked it (memory and lens availability): 2.0 / 18mm has it). And remembered that the EF-M 28mm macro lens has it too.
So maybe it is an upcoming design for lenses primarily used for mirrorless systems and now adapted to a SLR lens.
Exciting times - o.k., both ways: A lot of options to choose from but also a lot of decision making what to choose ...

3 months agopermalink

nandbytes

The Sony FE 55 also has a concave front element

3 months agopermalink

GotHotPhoto

Lets see when dpreview will react in my previous post and correct the infi in this threat...

3 months agopermalink

sh10453

"Threats" are not allowed :)

3 months agopermalink

zzzxtreme

It's time yongnuo focuses on lenses for sony

3 months agopermalink

Samyang is doing a pretty good job for the Sony mount. But no one has yet made an autofocus 35mm f/1.8 or f/2 for Sony. That could be an opportunity for Yongnuo.

3 months agopermalink

Zdman

Sony's cameras are so expensive these days that the average buyer has cash to put down on overpriced oem lenses and would turn up their nose at these. Canon is still making cheap DSLRS (and mirrorless) for the masses so its more their target market.

3 months agopermalink

yuchuxinchen

It's time yongnuo focuses on lenses for fuji, LOL

3 months agopermalink

DVT80111

If you buy it in China, it is probably marked Canon.

3 months agopermalink

http://yongnuoebay.com/gw/50f14x-05.jpg

This version II has an original optical formula.

3 months agopermalink

dgumshu

Canons are made in Japan.

3 months agopermalink

samfan

Is that the lens that used to look exactly like Canon's and was attacked for it so badly?

Well, it looks better now anyway. So now I bet the same Canon fanboys that were flogging Yongnuo for making a design copycat are NOT going to buy this anyway because it does NOT look like a Canon.

3 months agopermalink

ipopov

This one also has a very unorthodox optical formula for a 50mm, unlike their previous F1.8 lens, which had classic double-gauss design like the Canon.

3 months ago*permalink

fishy wishy

But it has the Holy Grail of lens design, the Red Ring! Now your search is over...

3 months agopermalink

@samfan Lot's of Canon fans/users buy 3rd party lenses that don't look like a Canon, so your comment makes no sense. My Tamron & Sigma don't look like a Canon.

@fishy wishy There's no red ring. Do you see a red ring somewhere?

3 months ago*permalink

dgumshu

Even thier flash units look like Canons

3 months agopermalink

Giklab

>unlike their previous F1.8 lens, which had classic double-gauss design like the Canon

While that's true, it's good to keep in mind almost every 50mm lens ever has a double gauss design. That's like saying "this Ford has four wheels just like this Renault" or something.

3 months agopermalink

ipopov

@Giklab What I wanted to say, is this new lens is very unlike any Canon lens.

But being pedantic, what you said was true 15 years ago, but not any more. Most of the "modern" 50mm lenses (Sigma Art, Zeiss Otus/Milvus, SonyZeiss 55/1.8 and 50/1.4, Samyang F/1.4 AF and F/1.2 etc) are NOT of regular double gauss design.

3 months agopermalink

Alex Zeee

I recently sold my 50mm STM since I never use it, this looks like basically the same size and weight and has an actual focus window which is always awesome. Really great what Yongnuo is doing with their lenses

3 months agopermalink

This is not at all like the same size & weight as the 50mm STM. It is more than 3.5X the weight, and more than 2X the length. Of course, it offers f/1.4 vs. f/1.8.

3 months ago*permalink

vscd

Hey Canon, come on... replace the 50mm f1.4. It's not the worst lens but it's VERY very old... even Yongnuo make the second version of a copy of something old. Give us an 50mm f1.4 IS and a new 50 f1.2 L. Please ;)

3 months agopermalink

+1. Yes, this is long overdue.

3 months agopermalink

nikon needs to update theirs also. for years their 50 has never performed amazingly. give me a nice high IQ at open aperture 1.8 version for $450.

not interested in the tamron or sigma thanks.

3 months agopermalink

Yes they both should redo their 50s. But if you need it now there is the great Sigma 50mm F1.4 Art, And the Tamron 45mm F1.8 with VC. Both great options.

If you want to buy into a new system, there is probably no system with more modern 50mms than the Sony one. The Sony/Zeiss 50mm F1.4 shows, what a big 50mm can be and the small 55mm F1.8 shows, what a small new 50mm F1.8 could be. You can of course also use the Sigma 50mm F1.4 Art, and the new Samyang 50mm F1.4 with AF. (Just to make the list complete Sony also has a cheap 50mm F1.8, A 50mm F2.8 macro and the 50mm loxia). So if 50 is your focal length, there are many options to chose from.

3 months agopermalink

blah blah blah. read before you reply. not interested in tamron or sigma. only nikon for me.

3 months ago*permalink

@super steel
Read before you respond. I said they should offer a replacement.

That said if you need a new 50mm NOW you have the option to go either non native, or switch systems. Nobody can tell how long it will take Nikon to replace their current 50s, especially since the current one is not that old.

3 months agopermalink

GrapeJam

@Super steel, you could always get the 58mm f1.4 ;)

3 months agopermalink

@GrapeJam
The 58mm F1.4 might have a good rendering, and you can get beautiful results with it. But if it's one thing it is not sharp. I doesn't compete with other modern 50mm F1.4s, like the Sigma, Zony etc...

3 months agopermalink

you read first because when a person says he doesnt care for something dont suggest it. I dont care for the tamron or the sigma so dont offer something a person doesnt want. I dont care for your opinion, move along. you offer nothing of value to my first comment.

3 months agopermalink

A little egocentric, don't you think? Who said my first post was directed at you? The orginal post about redoing the 50s was by vscd, and my post was a response to that. Sorry that you think this is "your thread" and that answers don't matter if they don't apply to you

3 months agopermalink

@super steel, Common forum etiquette: you don't own a thread just because you replied to it. Replies below yours are not necessarily to you, and aren't limited in any way by your reply.

3 months agopermalink

mario loconte

Canon ef 50mm f1.4 it is so far the baddest glass I ever had.

3 months agopermalink

@mario loconte
I really don't understand Canons position with the 50mm F1.4. It is dirt cheap and very very old. It is somehow the budget option compared to third party 50mm lenses. There is a huge market for a new red ring 50mm F1.4. And the 35mm F1.4 II shows, that Canon would be capable of delivering an outstanding 50mm.

3 months ago*permalink

@Yake

common etiquette is to reply that relevant. he replied to me when I specifically said no sigma or tamron. thats not proper etiquette. you only want to see selectively.

"Yes they both should redo their 50s. But if you need it now there is the great Sigma 50mm F1.4 Art, And the Tamron 45mm F1.8 with VC. Both great options."

hes a yapper with nothing worthwhile to add. all huff and puff.

3 months agopermalink

@super steel
A prime example of egocentrism here. Even if you want to pick the sentence appart word for word. "both should redo their 50s" still refers to both Canon(vscd) and Nikon(super steel).

And all that doesn't even matter, because just because you don't want a tamron or Sigma doesn't mean that nobody in this thread does

3 months ago*permalink

blah blah blah is all I hear from you. and again, you have nothing of value to add

3 months agopermalink

Karroly

super steel,
The OP complained that Canon should renew its 50mm F1.4 lens. And you replied to the OP that Nikon should do the same. Do you really think that, if the OP is a Canon users, he/she really cares about your opinion on that matter? Can you understand that your comment is of far less value to the OP than panther fan's comment ?

3 months agopermalink

@Karroly

better then someone recommending something I specifically said I dont care for.

"im hungry lets get pizza. I dont want sushi or a hamburger"

other poster "you can also get sushi and a hamburger"

yea thats valuable.

nikon and canon are the dominant leaders. the vast majority who own gear are nikon and canon so they go hand in hand. all the rest are just crumbs.

3 months agopermalink

Karroly

super steel,
Where did you read that the OP does not want sushi or hamburger (Sigma or Tamron) ? YOU said it. And panther fan did not only answer to you but to the OP, too... This is clear to me...

3 months agopermalink

@Karroly

if you were a lawyer or had to prove your case in court, youd fail. you wouldnt last long

3 months agopermalink

vscd

...Mom, all I wanted was a new 50mm f1.4 from Canon. Now they make war. Isn't that bad? Peace!

3 months agopermalink

Karroly

super steel
??? I have nothing to prove. You do have to prove that the first panther fan's comment was addressed to you only. And only panthern fan has the answer... :-)

3 months ago*permalink

Pradip ZX

Good news for low budged hobbies. I hope the price is bellow 300 USD, whic is the price of an used EF 50mm F1.4 USM here.

3 months agopermalink

GotHotPhoto

And the price is 130usd it says on of website

3 months agopermalink

Josh Leavitt

Ebay listings from Hong Kong sellers are trending at $175 USD right now. Very affordable compared to the other 50/1.4 glass on the market. The next best deal in that class is the Sigma EX 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM, which can be found used for around $250.

3 months agopermalink

GotHotPhoto

I think thats a mistake... Yongnuo just releqse 50 1.8 mark2, and anounsed 50 1.4 mark1! Just checked on hong kong website..

3 months agopermalink

http://www.hkyongnuo.com/e-detaily.php?ID=434

Check again:

3 months agopermalink

mordor_74

1.4 is not mark II, there was no 1.4 on the market until some day ago, i am pretty shure because i search for the price some day ago. It is obvious in the YN website and also there is no "II" in any picture of the lens, but DPR did not yet fix their article....

3 months agopermalink

https://petapixel.com/assets/uploads/2018/05/yongnuocomparison-800x316.jpg

From left to right: Canon EF 50mm f/1.4, Yongnuo YN 50mm f/1.4 and Yongnuo YN 50mm f/1.4 II:

The scale is not respected: the YN II is bigger than that (see the lens mounts).

3 months agopermalink