DNP Photo has released its new QW410 compact dye-sublimation photo printer featuring a 4.5in print head, 5.9kg (13lbs) weight and relatively small dimensions at 20 x 19.6 x 24cm (8 x 7.75 x 9.5in). When compared to the maker's DS-RX1HS and DS620A models, the QW410 has 28% and 35% lower power consumption, respectively.
The model offers a number of key features, including a lay-flat printing function that reduces print curl, support for glossy and matte photo paper, an optional wireless accessory that add supports for directly printing from Android, iOS, Windows and macOS, as well as print speeds as fast as 19 seconds for 4 x 6in prints.
The QW410 features a 300 x 300 dpi resolution and support for the following print sizes:
4 X 6in
4 X 4in
4.5 X 8in
4.5 X 4.5in
Photographers who need to print photos while away from the office can pair the QW410 with an optional portable battery for use without an outlet. DNP Photo also offers an optional carrying bag. The photo printer is available to purchase from several retailers like B&H Photo in the USA, Canada, and Latin America for $469.
Slightly lost as I can get a Canon Selphy CP 1300 for $114 and cartridges for about $30 , this is $469, other than being bigger and bulkier I don't see any advantages
For 13 lbs, can you not just bring a regular inkjet printer and a battery? Battery packs have DC to AC converters or more likely the printer is designed with an external AC to DC converter which can be replaced by a more generic variable DC output from the battery (without all the weight of iron).
I'm just saying I think for 13lbs and $469 you could get a better printer/battery that weights and costs less. It may not work on an unstable surface quite as well but if you're printing on the go surely you can wait a few seconds for an inkjet...
Dye sub prints can be so much nicer than an inkjet. Seems like they'd be the same but they totally are not, particularly when the dyesub has a gloss top film. Feels like a real photo, look has depth. It's just different for photobooth and events where you need a fast output that has good feel and look.
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I have an HP 460 portable battery printer. No luck from the HP forums getting that to work on Win 10. I get random garbage output with small fonts even on Win 7. Occasionally, I'll get a decent print but it's so rare that I've given up. Similar story on my 13 by 19" HP printer. Replaced print head and ink and no go. No wothwhile support help. I've owned numerous HP printers and I'm forever done with their inkjets.
@xeppelin As a professional photographer using DNP printers intensively on a weekly basis (photobooth) this device is absolutely not expensive (ROI in less than a month). This printer is compact and fast enough, reliable and the print size perfect for my needs. Being able to use this model without an outlet will broaden the possibilities.
...and the business opportunities! This is what “pro” is really about, having a happy customer paying promptly on site for a real photograph on his hands and then the next one and so on
@xeppelin if there was a practical way for something better at least as fast on-site....dye sub surely kills photos on a small screen and look! no smeared hands and messy ink handling!
Nothing to upgrade from, coming from my DS-620 (fast & compact) en DS-RX1HS (bigger size, bit slower, more photos on one roll). I was wondering when they would bring out something new. Guess there is no need for it, they haven't presented new models in years.
It's suppose to be DNP's smallest dye printer to date. It depends on how you look at it of course, this one is shaped like a cube, like the RX1HS. My DS620 is 2" lower than this new model, for example.
For someone on a tighter budget and/or who needs to print out without power nearby, this could be an option. It's obviously is a major step up from any Canon Selphy or equivalent printer.
@Caleido is the dye sublimation a dead end on the dpi/iq front or there is no big enough market demand for something better? It seems there is no quality upgrade for 10+ years now from any company on this technology and the ink jets cannot replace what it offers
@MichailK For my use, image quality is very good and only small improvements can be made, I presume. Any significant improvement, would increase the printing time. But I expected to see more features added or improve the speed in newer models. I must admit I only have experience with DNP printers, so there could be more options with competitors. Although DNP (at the time) was one of the better products.
@fpessolano Less than half the time of a Selphy to print one photo, should be considered a step-up, no? Just to start with. Running costs. A quick look, shows me that it's about €30 for 36 sheets for the Selphy. I pay about €100 for a box with 800 4x6" prints (DNP DS620)
Selphy: €0.83 per photo DS620: €0.125 per photo
Both 4x6inch or 10x15cm.
If you're a parent and just want to print some photos on small social gatherings, the Selphy is excellent and mobile. But for anything more serious and more printing, do the math.
@caleido Thanks but I pay about € 33,45 (online and transport and taxes incl.) for 108 sheets.. That's about € 0,31 per photo.. Still more expensive than the DS620 but totally worth the speed, fun and quality for family use. For business that's a different story..
I stand corrected. I just googled it. But it's still more expensive of course. But the printer itself is cheaper. So it comes down to how many prints you need, like I mentioned before.
Another advantage for a bigger printer is of course less need to change paper, when you have 400-700 photos on one roll. You can set it up and pick it up hrs later and still have prints on the roll. With the Selphy, someone needs to refill, unless you won't print more than 100 photos. Again: depends on what you need.
Just a basic example. If I have group photo of 5 people and everyone wants a copy of that photo, it takes about 1 minute for a DS620. On a Selphy it would take more than 5 minutes...
Interesting to see how many prints out of a battery. Generally around 200C (390F) is required for the ink to sublimate and bond to the poly ethylene. That is quite a high power requirement.
Sublimation is a process whereby a solid is transformed into vapor without going through a liquid phase. As applied to photo printing, "dye sublimation" is a misnomer. A better term is "dye diffusion" or "thermal transfer." The foil is pressed the coated paper (polyester not polyethylene), and heat is applied to melt the dye, which then diffuses into the substrate. A separate pass is required for each color.
Although individual pixels can be seen in the print, there is relatively good blending between successive colors, with near photographic results. A clear coat (e.g., Selphy printers) renders the results durable and water resistant.
Thanks for the pointer. Yes, you are correct. This is not in fact a sublimation process at all. Nonetheless heat is still required, albeit in a much more targeted manner than sublimation but at equally high temperatures. So still the energy required will not be inconsequential. BTW, sublimation dyes will bond with a very wide range of polymers, including those occurring in nature such as cellulose.
They have the DS-820A for that. One thing to keep in mind is because of the ribbon you cannot change media like you can on a conventional printer or even a Selphy. The whole roll has to be finished before you can switch.
@Fazal Majid. Not sure about this printer, but on a DS620 & RX1HS, you can take out the ribbon & paper mid roll and just put another in it. Sure, it takes about 3 minutes to switch, but you can put it back in again and it will pick up where you left it.
@Caleido Good to know, I tried to find that information, unsuccessfully (so I can swap from metallic to normal paper and back, or between 8x10 and 8x12). The DS820A is just a larger version of the DS620A so what applies to the latter probably does to the former as well.
Isn't there a risk of contamination by dust on the ribbon or paper, thus spoiling the next couple of prints, though?
You do lose maybe 3-5 prints, because it spits out a couple of blanks to align everything, just like when putting in a new roll. There is always a risk, but that can happen any time you put something in the printer. But I haven't had any problems. In three years, I've had only two paper jams. But that was mostly human error. You can even buy an extra ribbon holder and put the dye on it beforehand, so you will save time and minimize the risk even more.
Of course, you're not going to be putting near empty rolls into the printer during an event, just to get rid of the leftovers. But I use them when the roll is out of print and I'm near the end of an event. Or if it's a very small event, I put in a roll with about 30-50% left in it. All small bits together during a whole year, it's not pocket money. I know people who always start a fresh roll, just to be safe, but that's not me.
There was a family dye sub printers from ALPS some years ago that one could use with your computer. I think it took 3 to 4 mins to print an 8” x 10” photo with good quality and reasonable price.
19sec is pretty slow. Odd. I have printers that are a lot quicker. Anyhow, wireless from iOS? That's cheap and compact mobile photobooth kiosks sorted out then. I like!
Given that 4.5x8 is the biggest option (and I've never seen a frame available in such a size...) the quality gulf would have to be pretty massive to make this worth >4x the price of a Canon Selphy...
Running costs for event use. How many shots on a Selphy print/ribbon set? I have a couple of DyeSubs that shoot out prints in about 7secs and have 600 prints on a roll. Obviously this is more compact, slower and less prints on a roll I guess. They are an industrial grade printer though, (they took over the Sony DyeSub biz too)
So it's exclusively for industrial / commercial use, then. That's really all that needed to be said.
Given that Selphy paper / ink cost about $0.25 per print, even at 1/4 the cost, you'd need to make 2000 prints just to match the total amortized cost. No one is doing that for their personal photos.
@Androole Primarily event photographers (think Santa Claus pictures, or the kiosk at the end of a tourist attraction selling tacky photos of you with a simulated background). Also most photokiosks at grocery stores or drugstores use dye-sub technology printers from DNP, Mitsubishi or Fuji because traditional wet minilabs take at least 15-30 minutes to develop and fix RA-4 photo paper.
It is great when my kid has a project and wants to print out something in colour to put into the project. No need to send prints to the store and then have to pick them up! :) Super great when the project is due the next day! LOL.
I used to keep an inkjet around for that. But they kept drying up on me.
I don't have to worry about the Selphy drying up! :)
Actually. The last cheer competition, my daughter's team came in first. I took a picture of them posing with their trophy. I cleaned up the shot and then printed a copy for each of the athletes and the coaches and sent it in the next practice!
Yeah I got a Selphy a couple years ago and while I would agree that it's not really portable (even with the battery, more like transportable) it definitely satisfies my itch for home use and if you buy when the rolls hit a low price on Amazon you end up spending like 25¢ a print... Not very cheap but definitely quicker than any order or store run, which is what I like.
I have a Selphy ES30, which has a lunchbox format. Bulkier than the CP series, but it doesn't have the precariously perched paper tray of the latter. Sadly Canon has stopped supporting it on newer versions of OS X.
One neat feature of the Selphy is you can print stickers in it.
Of course they did. The week after I bought my DNP DS-820A...
Of course this is a 4x6 printer. Think of it as a Canon Selphy on steroids, or a descendant of what's probably in the photo self-service printing kiosks at your local drugstore or supermarket.
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