Sigma has posted a YouTube Premiere video to its channel teasing a new product presentation for August 8th at
As is typical for these kinds of teasers from Sigma, no additional details have been provided at this time. The only notable detail from the video’s description is that the word ‘products’ is used, suggesting more than one product will be announced.
You can set a reminder by clicking on the ‘Notify me’ bell button on the YouTube video above. The event will start at 12pm UTC on August 8, 2022. What do you think Sigma has up its sleeves?
If the information associated with the 20mm and 24mm f/1.4 rumors hold true, I do hope that Sigma goes into some depth explaining the reported "AF assist function" and "lens heater retainer".
These two items sound like they would be nightscape/astrophotography-related (i.e. needing to attain pinpoint star focus and needing to keep one's optics dew-free) so here's hoping these both prove true.
Speaking on shooting star fields, my hope is that they've managed to improve on the corner performance (e.g. coma, astigmatism and vignetting) over their existing 20- and 24mm f/1.4 offerings. My EF 20mm f/1.4 Art (adapted to L-mount) has...
"15 elements in 11 groups (5 SLD glasses, 1 aspherical lenses)",
...the new native-L lens is reported to have...
"17 elements in 15 groups (2 SLD glasses, 3 aspherical lenses)"...
...so, again, here's hoping! :)
Now, if Sigma could provide us with a focus clutch for proper mechanical focusing, I'm not a fan of these eternally spinning focus rings! ;)
The problem is that I need the capabilities that my Canon EOS R3 bodies provide. I shoot professional auto racing. The car tracking AF mode on the EOS R3 works really well.
No - Sigma, like Tamron have opted to support different systems these days. As Sony owns half the market with Fujifilm and MFT having another combined 15/20% marketshare there is no need for Tamron and Sigma to support Canon and Nikon any longer. Besides Sigma also has its focus on L-Mount alliance.
SNjops - As you may know in the past the protocols of Nikon and Canon had to be 'reversed engineered' and have never been publicly licensed...
It is not going to happen as long as Canon and Nikon find their lens line-up to be 'complete enough' for themselves. Meaning they have to earn the development costs of the system back first, before opening up the mount.
Merely stating to the OP what I have been told, my local camera shop manager also was told this by a Sigma UK rep and Greys of Westminster also mentioned this in their YouTube video at the 20 minute mark - https://youtu.be/LGdpC1b2JUE
I shoot Sony so it doesn’t affect me but for some (I think many) Canon and Nikon shooters the lack of 3rd party glass from Sigma and Tamron is a big issue. For some users it’s enough that they make the switch to Sony or run it as an additional system at the very least. Of course Canon and Nikon are free to do what’s right for their businesses but that same strategy is helping their competition. How much is anyone’s guess but its definitely helping Sony even if in a small way.
Of course its an omission for Nikon and Canon shooters to not have the option for 3rd party glass. At the same time they should be aware of the fact that Sigma and Tamron both have decided not to support these new systems yet.
And it might take a long time before they will or will be allowed to do so.
As for Tamron and Nikon it looks Nikon opts to brand Tamron lenses and add some xxx dollars to a Nikon branded Tamron lens.
Its unrealistic to think Sigma and Tamron will come up with native support any time soon now they both went with support for Sony, Fujifilm and MFT.
They aren’t going to offer those lenses as long as Nikon and Canon refuses to license and they won’t accept a half baked license to reverse engineer it either. Third part has now gotten used to far better licensing agreement so they are not going to bother reverse engineering any more, that was something brands did when they didn’t have other choices, but Sony changed the rules of the game and they already forced it on Fujifilm, Panasonic and OM-Digital Solution. However things have changed, the combined market of E, X, M/4/3 and L-mount means that their hands are plenty full. so they are no longer forced into accepting what ever crumbs Nikon and Canon are willingly to offer to them.
So if needed to complain then put it where it needs to be at Nikon and Canon table, if consumers put enough pressure they will eventually have to accept third part.
I don’t know why Tamron hasn’t released any RF and Z mount glass but in the case of Sigma and what I have heard directly from one of their UK reps and from other people who say they have been told the same thing, Sigma are waiting on licenses from Canon and Nikon in order to make lenses for both platforms. Why would a lens company choose to not sell lenses to more potential customers, especially in a shrinking market where revenue and profits are even harder to come by than in previous years?
Also note that both Sigma and Tamron didn’t make any glass for x mount until Fuji decided to work with them. My guess and speculation is that both companies have a policy of not reverse engineering mirrorless mounts and will only release lenses when they have some kind of access to official protocols/specifications.
Sigma lenses were good in their day. Nikon Z lenses are better and Sigma had the chance to develop for Z mount and lost that chance. I predict Sigma will stick with Sigma branded cameras and lens mounts moving forward, and probably Sony (yawn)...
Camerasity Nikon never asked Sigma if they where interested in licensing the Z mount… so no Sigma never had a shot at developing anything for Z mount. Also Sigma rival Z mount lenses as much as they rival Sony
Is there any official statement that sigma focuses on others mount? I remember some Sigma interviews where they talked about the development of optics for R and Z, but I have not read anything about this change. In the last year or so, however, Canon has sold mirrorless cameras almost as much as sony, in the next few years there may also be an overtaking, I don't think sigma wants to lose this market.
I tried Sony's Alpha 1 system for three months. It does not work nearly as well as the Canon EOS R3 for shooting car racing. The Sony's autofocus system doesn't play well with racing cars.
Pre product hype introductions, like this, can be more of a TURN OFF than one would like to imagine. One thing it does create, at least for me, is it's just another Much Ado About Nothing event. It's the last thing a product manager wants to be greeted with.
SIgma products are created at a high level, they do not need to employ such common marketing tactics. Wish them the best.
This isn’t hype, its letting people know in advance that something new is coming. Those who don’t read the rumour sites probably wouldn’t know otherwise.
There’s a place for surprises and ahead of time announcements. Companies have to come with strategies that increase awareness of their products and services which then hopefully can be turned into increased sales and therefore revenue and profits which hopefully leads to increased wages and job security for the working person.
In reference to me: "One thing it does create, at least for me, is it's just another Much Ado About Nothing event." Hype plus hype, to me, just adds up to hype. If it's in style today to dress / use hype, again so be it.
@Yes BossMan: Japanese camera companies, in particular Sigma, Panasonic and Nikon, brought this "teaser campaign" method to an art form.
It gets them articles on tech news sites, and it gets them a gazillion of reader comments; lots of media attention and user engagement. And they keep bumped to the top of the news articles list every time some new snippet of information is "leaked".
You may not like that tactic, but it works exactly as intended.
That would be a wonderful idea. Perhaps some of the density problems for the FF would be solved by fewer but larger pixels over a bigger area. It would also differentiate the camera.
That would be a wonderful idea. Perhaps some of the density problems for the FF would be solved by fewer but larger pixels over a bigger area. It would also differentiate the camera.
I haven't seen anything since the original rumor broke, SAR claimed in April that a "reliable source" told him it was gonna be announced (along w/a 50/1.2) by June, but that obviously didn't pan out so who knows...
Sigma hasn’t had much focus on 50mm for ages and never put their best glass into it either, the same was frankly the case with the 24 and 35mm range. All those where more budget friendly choices but not their best lenses.
The lenses Sigma really put effort into was their short tele portrait lenses (85, 105 and 135) and the wides (14, 20 and 28) now with L-mount that’s obviously not a strategy they can follow any longer as we already seen with the 35 1.2 DG DN. So I’m sure they eventually will launch a fine 50mm we’ll probably two, but I would not be slightest surprised to see them launch the 14, 105 and 135mm before.
I have enough E-mount, so SIgma can only get more of my $$$$ from making the RF and/or Z mount lenses. The RF and Z is the area Sigma can really get some market share while both Canon and Nikon failed to offer fast prime at the moment,
And I heard people are talking about 20 F1.4 and 24 F1.4, the Sony 20 F1.8 and 24 F1.4GM is so good, Sigma will have a real tough battle to fight in this space, in my own case, as the current owner of those, I am using them mainly for Milky Way landscape, and historically, all wide angle sigma has boat load of coma, including the 14 F1.8 which I also own, so I almost stop using it after I received the Sony 14GM, and when I am not shooting both I even adapt my 14GM on my Nikon system instead of using the Sigma 14, so I will keep my eyes on the Coma performance very closely, I am not worry about sharpness, , but I am really struggle with their horrible coma performance.
The Sigma 14-24 DG DN has nearly flawless coma performance, so there's hope.
I too owned the Sigma 14 1.8 and Sony 14 1.8 for astrophoto and got rid of both due to the coma/corner sharpness. :-( And yes, the Sigma 24 and 20 1.4s for DSLRs were basically unusable for astrophoto due to truly abysmal coma.
I am a little surprised to hear you have issue with the Coma and corner sharpness with the Sony 14 GM but like the Sigma 14-24 F2.8 better, my experience was totally opposite and the Sony 14 is head and shoulder better as a Milky Way landscape lens.
The Sony 14 GM is really the best 14/14 I have used so far, I own almost all version of Samyang 14, Laowa 15, Sigma 14, and the old but hopeless Canon and and Nikon DSLR 14 F2.8, Nikon 14-24.....
The problem with RF and Z is that they currently do not license the protocol so manufacturers need to reverse engineer. But there is rumours that Nikon made agreement with Tamron to rebadged some of the E-mount lenses but it will be with a Nikon name tag on it.
Sigma will never go into such terms, so they won’t make RF and Z until these open op for their closed mount.
Also surprised about the 14gm the one I have is excellent for what it is, obviously it will never have corners of a midrange or short tele lens.
Nikon F and Canon EF were also close mounts, but there were Sigma lenses. I guess the chip and parts current situation affects Sigma as well, so they prefer to sell only FE and L mount lenses and later when the situation gets improved they will manufacture lenses for RF and Z mounts as well.
Can we please get a set of the Sigma contemporary primes that they have for the E mount with an aperture ring and all, for the Fuji X and maybe Canon RF.
Fast 20 & 24s actually, although E mount arguably has more options at those FLs already than at 50mm even (at least with AF, tho most aren't f1.4 like these two will be).
All that's true, and yet, there's actually not a lot of midrange ~50/1.8 options w/o some serious compromise, it's rather dumb. You've got the overpriced ZA 55/1.8, the little Samyang 45/1.8 (which I like), and the very slow/noisy (tho cheap) Sony 50/1.8. Everything else is either larger/faster and pricier or slower (50/1.4 ZA, 50/1.2 GM, 50/2.5 G). Kinda bizarre...
I guess there's the Viltrox 50/1.8, which is not that great for it's size/weight... Those plus the Sigma 45/2.8, their old DSLR 50/1.4 DG, the 50/2.8 macro, and the relatively small SY 50/1.4 II make 11, not sure what the 12th is (SY's Mark 1?). There's basically no direct answer to the Nikon Z 50/1.8 S tho, if Sigma ever comes out with that rumored 50/2 it'll basically be the default 50 for a lot of people.
I don't really care myself, as I tend to prefer 35mm (hence why I've got the 35GM and the SY45, very happy with those 2), but I do feel for people who just want a decently priced ~50/1.8 without obvious flaws and who are constantly told the system has enough 50s. It kinda does, and yet it really doesn't.
I'd even say there's more to choose from for those that want a fast 50 than those that want a small 50/1.8... Between the SY, used copies of the ZA, and the relatively small GM you really can't complain there. Loads of great manual options too. A price drop on the 55/1.8 ZA would solve a lot, but that ain't happening.
The 55 is a fantastic lens. It’s overpriced in 2022 though. I don’t use a 50 often but the cheap 50/1.8 produces great images. It’s just a slow, loud focuser. But for as often as I use it, it’s great. And I paid $200 for it. But I get your point.
Sigma is announcing a partnership with Cosina Voigtländer and presenting the Bessa R5Ds.
It will be similar to all the Bessa's and the Epson R1-D. And yes, it will have the film winder/shutter cocking mechanism and the Nikon 35ti style indicators.
The specs of their 20 & 24mm f1.4 DNs already leaked like a week ago, so it's probably those, there were some 50s rumored too (f2 and f1.2?) but nothing very concrete on them has leaked.
Out of the known possibilities, I'd personally be most interested in the 18-50/2.8 coming to Fuji X, but would be neither surprised nor disappointed, if it was something else they'll announce.
I keep wanting to seem something in the range of 100mm more Primes that are of the fast aperture type. Along with Zooms which are at least 400mm or more. But apparently it's all about the shorter ranges these days for the most part.
So I highly doubt anything will be announced comparable to anything near what Nikon has done like the Nikon NIKKOR Z 400mm f/4.5 VR S Lens anytime soon. Although we always hear about some lens which were patented but seemly never see the day of light that some folks have an keen interest in.
Unless its RF mount support, not too interested in Sigma releases any more. There are some really interesting lenses from Sigma but either for L or E mount.
Sigma seems to want native support now and avoid reverse engineering. So it's up to Canon to open their RF mount. At least with Z mount, we can adapt E mount lenses.
Sorry but an adapted, 20-year-old Canon 28-300mm lens is not good enough. I switched from 50 years of shooting Nikons so that I could build a new system based on the Canon EOS R3 body. I will not buy the old Canon 28-300mm lens and an adaptor. Instead, I will reluctantly continue to use Canon's consumer-grade 24-240mm lens with no weather sealing.
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