At its X-Summit event in Dubai, Fujifilm announced a major firmware update for the X-T3, coming in April. Firmware 3.0 will bring improvements to Eye-AF, and should provide faster AF tracking performance and face detection. Face selection will be added, and 'touch operability' will also be improved.
You can see a preview of the changes in the video above, which will start playing at the relevant point in the presentation.
I don't think that Fuji owners need an equivalent for every fast FF lens around. There is more to a system than just shallow DoF and the 56 1.2 already gives enough bokeh IMO.
56 1.2 doesnèt have a good bokeh, in fact it has a flaw in that department. But hey, if itès good enough for you then you are all set, I need a creamy bokeh for fantastic portraits.
Stoked to see an improvement so soon. Ill be interested to see just how much they can squeeze out of this new platform. As much as I love my XH-1 I think its going to be replaced by the XT-3 soon.
For me the better AF performance, Eye-detect improvements, the improved grip are all pulling me back towards the XT line.
Oddly enough I think more than anything I miss my Exposure comp dial (from the XT-2) and care about that more than the IBIS
Sometimes I wonder what the average age of a DPR user is. I find it hard to believe that people under 25 are that interested in a camera forum which leads me to suspect the worse - 25 and over "adults" arguing over camera brands.
I wish the X-T100 would get this update. I know it’s an entry level camera, but throw some love to the Fujifilm Bayer sensor lovers.
(Or better yet, just bring out a higher end model with the Bayer sensor, complete with the upgraded AF & face/eye detection already installed from the factory).
update is not good enough. They are just copying most of the sony features that's why sony fanboys loves to make fun of fuji fanboys. In 5 years time i see Fuji selling their camera business to sony.
All the Sony fanboys who tries to troll and post hate comments here in Fuji threads are refugees chased away from Canon forum. Build walls and do not let them in, they are toxic.
BTW, It's great to see Fuji pumping out updates for its users, XT-3 beats all Sony APS-Cs available.
You’re not alone. MANY people wish Fuji would make FF cameras.
But for whatever reason, any time you mention it, the Fuji aps-c users freak out and berate you as if you’re directly attacking their systems. They think it HAS to be one or the other, that the systems can’t co-exist. It’s weird.
I am very pleased with my 2 x Fujifilm X-T3's and getting another body shortly. Just used them for two ELLE magazine shoots and a STYLE magazine shoot and will use again for a major advertorial on March 1st. I have two systems, NIKON FF 4 bodies and Fujifilm X system 5 bodies and soon six. Very pleased with the eye autofocus and looking forward to what the new firmware will add to already a very capable autofocus system.
I read your posts in forums and saw your work, it's great for sure. No offence, but all your delight comes from mirrorless cameras advantages over DSLRs. No FF/BF problems, size/weight, good modern optics. You would feel just the same with any modern mirrorless cameras, no matter if it's Fuji, Sony or Olympus. It's just Fuji's marketing that's aimed for pros. But, of course, they don't say that their "strong sides" are basically all mirrorless cameras strong sides.
Indeed...Fuji just captured my interest and voila! However, Fujifilm are really proactive regarding firmware updates that often radically improve the functionality of an already very good platform. I have never experienced that from any other major manufacturer. But I do agree that the joy of not having to calibrate my lenses is wonderful news! :-)
The time lapse feature is a very small part of a very major upgrade. The firmware upgrades have been demonstrated. They probably are in testing before release.
I hope they do offer a Bayer version at some point.. I mean I don't mind the X-Trans and it has its advantages, but sometimes it can be a pain to work with in post unless you use Fuji's X-Raw studio which is designed to interpret their X-Trans RAW files obviously. They aren't very forthcoming it seems with other software companies in terms of their RAW files which is a big turn-off to me. Otherwise, I like the brand and like what they're doing (and love shooting the XT2).
Yeah I saw that CaptureOne has a Fuji version, which I'm tempted to try.... I mean I can probably do an X-Raw Studio to TIFF< and then open the TIFF into PS, but that's a two step process and not always guaranteed to work. It would just be nice if Fuji files would play nicely with Adobe software.... Not sure if that's Adobe's fault or Fuji's at this point.
Ummm. The YouTube video was streamed live 3 days ago.. from an account called Fujifilm X series... an account created in 2015. Perhaps you are mistaken. Certainly unless DPR created this YouTube account, they are not responsible for breaking the “embargo” as you so called it.
Fuji, please also adress the issue for your older models like e.g. the X-T2.
Face and eye AF on the X-T2 is almost useless IMHO.
First, the AF system does no good job in recognizing faces.
Second, if it recognizes faces it looses the face easily and almost always chooses the "wrong" face.
I am sure that the feature of choosing the dedicated face can be implemented via FW update and looking at Sonys 6400 I am pretty confident, that the performance enhancement could be done too.
I am not a Fuji engineer, but I guess this question was not serious ;-)
Face Selection: If multiple faces are recognized, the recognized faces are highlighted with rectangles. If several faces are in the frame, the camera is clearly able to recognize multiple faces at once as it highlights multiple faces at one but chooses one to follow (I think the one nearest to the center). Giving the user the option to choose one of the already recognized faces seems like a sole software task without any additional requirements to the hardware (like more processor power for example). Therefore I am pretty sure that this is possible.
Overall face recognition AF performance: Of course here I am far from sure, but considering, that aside from the AF algorithm the only hardware with influence on AF performance of the camera are the processor and the sensor, I am confident, that the performance could be improved. Why? First: AFAIK the sensor of the XT-2 is basically the same as the one in the Sony 6400 just with an different color filter array. Second: Although there is more to processors like sheer speed (processors can be tweaked for certain tasks), the processor of the XT-2 is certainly no slouch, considering the video specs of the XT-2.
For me, in my most recent model shoot, face detection seemed to work maybe 3/4 of the time (so pretty good) although it obviously struggles a little in low-light, especially when you're under exposing a bit to compensate for the use of flash (as I need to get a good balance of ambiet and flash so sometimes the exposure looks under exposed in the EVF, but turns out as I wanted it after i take the shot).
@Sirhawkeye: It may be good enough for a posed model shot, but it is not good for photographing events or children. I had the EOS M5 before and it's Face AF was way better and did not struggle in such situations.
not a fan boy to any company. they are just tools. I use nikon btw. and not a fan boy to them either. no mfr cares about their customers. they only care for the money. so stop being fan boys
bottom line, fuji has no market share. they have 2-3% at max. maybe that.
sony is around 22% or so. theres no competition whatsoever. sony dominates over fuji
If you are not a fan boy then why did you feel the need to point these things out ? Are Canon cameras superior to Sony because Sony have a tiny marketshare compared to them ?
So, in a comments thread about a Fujifilm firmware update, you feel the need to point out that you're not a fan boy, and then to say that Sony is dominating Fujifilm because of a much larger market share, and that we should "face the facts"? That's completely off-topic, and it's definitely trolling. What's your point, exactly?
stop arguing with sony users about your crap non existent company. just be modest, keep your head down and shut up. all you do is constantly compete with sony. youre not on the same level. so stop. its like if olympus would say their new flagship is as good as the d5 because it can also do x fps
sony has their own cr*ppy issues but for 2% market share, you sure are making a lot of noise. and for no reason.
dont compare other companies. dont compare anything. compare fuji with yourselves and what they are doing right or wrong. and why after so many years in the camera business cant jump any higher then 2%. look in your own plate. stop pointing to others.
yea, and your fuji is no where near on high quality level as a lambo...or a skoda.
Marketing share doesn't matter, profits do. Fuji can make a bigger profit than Sony, regardless of company size. That's what matters. Why do photogs no so little about business?
This is just so funny. I don't care about the profitability or market share of a camera company that I don't own any shares. All I care if it has the right camera and lens for my use. It can be Canon, Nikon, Sony or Fujifilm.
I still have XT1 as my travel camera and It works best for me for her size and IQ. The look is good too which is a bonus.
I don't know about others but i don't get offended at all. I simply don't care. Photography is just a hobby for me and I don't have unlimited fund to upgrade my gears every year and that's why i still use Xt1 for travel. Enjoy your Sony.
TW14, does have one valid point though that some seem to forget: "All I care if it has the right camera and lens for my use. It can be Canon, Nikon, Sony or Fujifilm. "
After all, isn't it the processed image that matters, not the brand of camera that took it. In fact, I think many (even pros) would be hard pressed to be able to tell what camera brand was used to take what photo without cheating and looking at metadata. And if you're shooting for a client, I don't think they would care what system you used, as long as they got they shot they wanted from you.
I shoot both Fuji and Nikon. They have the stuff I need--for the Fuji it's more the size and weight, for Nikon it's the large lens selection (and option to shoot older lenses, like those from the 70's+) and IQ. But if Sony offered the same thing (mainly lens selection) that NIkon had 5 years ago, I probably would have gone with Sony or someone else at that point but I decided to go with Nikon.
it is their first ML camera. if you were a sucker to buy it knowing this, why are you complaining? if you didnt youre smart and wait for gen2 which will have all the kinks worked out including 2 memory cards.
nikon z cameras are equivalent to 2.5 of the mark3 sony cameras. almost there but not yet.
Sounds like someone is trying to indirectly compare to Sony... if that's the case, Sony has had 5+ years to perfect their AF systems (and even today they still aren't "perfect"). I do have to agree... give Nikon some time. Remember that Sony's had issues (not specifically AF, but it included some AF issues) out the door, and some issues are still not fully resolved.
Or compare 5 years old Sony with current Z system and many people were buying Sony 5 years ago when others were still happily using DSLR. It is also ok.
Nikon did great job with Z cameras. But overall competition level increased and, as reaults, companies are comming to market with more mature products. As customers we olny benefit from that.
So, a 'half-baked camera' won gold award. Just think how well it would have had done if they'd polished the firmware for another 5 months before releasing it.
The firmware actually serves to stretch a product without releasing a newer one. It often is cheaper than to just do a rinse and wash like other bigger companies like Sony, Nikon, and Canon who have the resources to do that. Of course, there's the flips side, and that is often than not, what Fuji tends to add after the launch of a product, could and should have been done prior. Great to get the update, but you're kinda sort of getting something that is half-baked as opposed to getting it done in the first place. Granted no company "gets it right" on release, but putting the praise aside you have to call it for what it is. Now I only hope Fuji can put the same effort into its X-E3 camera and perhaps bless the X-Pro 2 with focus stacking.
As I said earlier (I think in a post about Sony firmware) was that I'd rather have a bunch of FW updates than have to buy a new camera every 2 years because they only issued 1 or 2 updates and then decided to just release a new camera. I like how Fuji is still supporting its XT2 user base, even 2.5 years later, adding new features. FW updates are free 99% of the time, free... updated camera bodies are not.
Why is it always Sony users that feel insecure and feel the need to ridicule others choice?
The Fujifilm X-t3 had all the features that it promised at release. This is just and update to the features already already there, but a lot of the time Fujifilm adds completely new features, also things that no other cameras are capable of like 4k 60fps HDR like in the previous. Sony very rarely adds new features and it has only happened during the last year because Fujifilm has pushed them to do it.
There's some deep insecurity among camera owners on display here. A lot of people trying to reassure themselves they made the right decision. Where does the fear come from? Why so much need to feel that the other guy is a loser?
A psychologist could amass some fascinating material for a lecture on the effects of late stage capitalism. The rest of us get a good laugh, though after a while it gets creepy....
So much Sony fan boy hate. I’ll sum it up (what’s below) for everyone. Sony fanboys say the X-T3 is only getting firmware updates because a) the camera was not complete at launch, and b) Sony released the a6400 and it has better eye AF so now Fuji (which never comes first to the market with anything) is now playing catch up. Why so much hate Sony fan boys?
As far as I understood, Sony set the bar with A7III for tracking performance/price. Then Nikon Z, Canon EOS-R and Fuji XT-3 came.
Then Nikon said that it'll improve AF via FW, then Sony said they'll bring Animal Eye-AF to current bodies. Then Olympus and Panasonic hit the market with AI based object detection systems.
As far as I understood, Fuji's AF performance is sub-par with respect to the processor and power it packs. So now they are releasing a new FW with better AF.
It's the AF war, and fought over FW. There's no hate, just the competition.
As a Sony user I have no hate. Just got my popcorn, and watching the AF var, and occasionally getting free features down the road.
Competition is healthy. This is the way it should be.
@bayindirh Sony said they will bring animal Eye-AF first, this was very old news, even before Nikon announced their future firmware. So I'm guessing that is another first for Sony :)
@Manzur, you're right, however I knowingly omitted that detail since it will both complicate the comment and Sony didn't clarify whether Animal Eye-AF will come to current bodies or next-gen ones at that time.
All in all, we're witnessing some healthy competition between camera manufacturers, and it's both good for us and enjoyable to watch.
people who appreciate traditionally focused controls with direct permanent dial based fixing of values like aperture \shutter speed\iso with easy direct control of exposure comp as well
carried out on finely machined metal dials with incised paint filled legends instead of unmarked cheapish black plastic unmarked dials that ,,,umm appliance manufacturers have made ... you know companies with no historyor legacy of their own who must buy a dying camera manufacturer to jump start their camera foray fuji excellence and long history with optics with lenses costing a thousand or a hundred thousand u s dollars is many decades long they have a dignified history of superb medium format film cameras [and now digital] and they were doing this when ,,,, umm some other camera makers were making transistor radios and hip mounted cassette players and little else
@cosinaphile Sony is no more an appliance than any other camera. They have a different feel to it I completely agree, but it's their way of doing things. Why bash the thing you don't like?
@cosinaphile Why lower yourself to the provokers' level then and got provoked? My friends shoot Fuji, and they are perfect cameras in their own right.
With the latest developments it's well seen that camera landscape is bigger than the old juggernauts (Canon & Nikon). Everybody is doing interesting things, and things are not clear cut as before nowadays, and it's a good thing IMHO.
I was planning to buy a D500 before deciding on an A7III, but if I decided to stay in APS-C land, the choice is much much harder, and it's a good thing.
Just don't heed the provokers and cherish all achievements if you ask me.
@Docno I have owned an X-T3 starting from Nov 2018. It does not seem the product is unfinished or incomplete.
However I do believe that every manufacturer is facing rushed release of an IMPERFECT product. Routine update and maintenance of every product (in particular to electronic products) are inevitable to make it better.
@CAPTAINNODDY What about the X-E3 which was released not long ago, it hasn't received the same attention, so does Fujis still get a well done from those who use one?
The Fuji will be a more fun camera to use than the Sony...and that counts for a whole lot.
And let's not pretend the Sony's are so perfect...they are not...they're IBIS is not class leading, and even their vaunted eye AF is not always so perfect.
Not sure how you define fun. But the A9 is a blast to shoot. Fun is subjective. And we know the Sonys are not perfect. We are responding to "sony fans still crying over firmwares that fuji does? " which is a really foolish comment in light of the firmwares Sony is releasing in March. The fuji updates are trying to catch up to Sony... And the Sony updates are pushing further ahead....
Notice how they didn't demo the EyeAF update? Maybe they figured they needed to do something after the Sony Demo.. But it's not done yet.
Hope they are successful. It pushes all the guys to work harder.
Don't be naive. Nearly every product in the electronic and software industry is "half-baked" for many reasons : short life cycle, software complexity, low margins on entry-level products, etc... Only pro, high-end products can be "cuits aux petits oignons" (French expression meaning "crafted with great care and love", literally "cooked with small onions").
I bought an X-T3 shortly after the release. It does what Fuji claimed so I can confirm it's not half baked. Sony seems to start substantial updates with functional improvements now as well. We should all be happy about that.
But Fuji selectively updates its products. They've shown this with the X100 line which barely gets any attention from Fujis after paying a premium of the camera. Also with the X-E3 where are the improvements for it that are needed? Still no focus stacking for X-Pro 2 or Eterna for the X-E3
The attempts to paint Fuji's kaizen approach to updates in a negative light crack me up. You can pretty much assume those doing it have other brands that force you to buy a new body to get any updated features. Of course as these brands start following the kaizen approach, like Sony with its upcoming A73 and A9 update, you can bet those former critics will become fans of the process.
@Rob. Its true that Fuji doesnt update its bodies equally; the fact that the X100 series is neglected is particularly bad for a premium Fuji camera. Of coruse if you are willing to edit the EXIf of your Raw files, changing the name to X-H1 will give you access to Eterna in Lightroom.
Let's hope it is real eye detect rather than Sony "top of eyelash" detect. Or at least, unlike Sony, they will let you adjust focus settings (like the old DSLRs).
Jim Kasson has tested and explained how most of the time eyelash detect is OK, but when DoF is very thin, with Sony the iris is always slightly out of focus. Nikon at least let's you adjust focus settings to be more accurate, and I bet Fuji addresses this too.
Yes, let's see if it will become real eye detect. Currently, the X-T3 doesn't seem to have eye detect at all (focus point jumps nervously around the eye, but never sits on the iris). I suspect the the X-T3 currently only has eye guessing as a side-effect of the face detection algorithms, but doesn't have genuine eye detection algorithms. Would be interesting, if Fuji now will implement genuine eye detection, or not.
Interesting stuff with the Sony. But can we be sure that it wasn't just indivudual lens front-focus? did Jim Kasson test with multiple lenses, or just with a single lens sample? I find it hardly plausible that focus happens on the eye lash, because the focus point sits firmly on the iris (on all demo videos I have seen), and the iris usually offers more contrast than the eye lash?
I agree that focus fine-tuning should be introduced to mirrorless as well, to correct individual lens front-focusing if there is any.
For the record, Sony is not the only one with eye detect. Olympus and others have it too. Nikon will have it soon, but since Nikin let's you micro adjust their "face" detect, it is possible now to get consistent AF on the iris.
The best solution of course is pinpoint AF with a touch shutter. Tap on the iris and nail focus every time. Tap on a different iris and nail that too. But I can also see why some people want their cameras to decide everything for them.
You can’t pinpoint an AF point on an eyeball separate from an eyelash unless your subjects face is the size of the frame, or your camera is on a tripod and your subject is a mannequin.
And yes, others have EyeAF, but everyone pretty much agrees the Sony implementation is the best all around...
Don’t need the touchscreen.. lack of touchscreen doesn’t slow me or the camera down at all... (touchscreen interface is supposed to be substantially updated in Fw5.0 for Sony. But I probably still won’t use it.) seriously, you are just a troll...
Huh. It is always the Sony fans that resort to name calling and personal attacks when they do not like the facts. Why can't Sony fans stick with discussing facts.
Anyway. There is no Sony FF camera with a touchscreen that doesn't exhibit extreme lag, nor one that has a touch AF/Shutter (instant focus/shutter release). A FW update cannot fix this, because the lag is due to the hardware. The new A6400 appears to have a much improved touchscreen, one that functions like everyone else's finally.
You started on a Fuji(film) thread bashing Sony’s EyeAF which clearly everyone else is trying to match. And then throw a pointless dig about the crap touchscreen which doesn’t seem to stop anyone using an A9. And you’re upset because I called you a troll. If you can’t handle it, perhaps you shouldn’t engage in such discussions with the tone that you do.
@SydneyVision - um, actually you called Mike "clueless" first before he called you a troll. So I'd say that you brought down the level of conversation. Moreover, you totally missed his point. He was saying that if you're going to be worrying about a 1mm difference in focal plane (eyeball versus eyelash), you're probably way in close, have your camera on a tripod (to prevent a 1mm movement on your part), and have a very still subject (i.e., a mannequin). Also note that irises are naturally much less well-defined than eyelashes... the border of the iris to eye-white is not super sharp in reality, which might pose additional challenges to any AF system
SidneyVision, I scanned the thread for name-calling and personal attacks and found none so far but I am gonna take care of that in a second. What I see a moron troll attempting to pick a fight for no reason at all.
Correct a Sony user and explain Sony doesn’t off a fully functional touchscreen on their FF cameras yet, and all you get back is name calling and insults. It is always the Sony guys.
And, no, there is no Sony FF that has a touch shutter. And yes you can zoom in on subject with an EVF for more accurate focusing. (
For those saying that FujiFilm releases firmware updates because their products are not polished from the first production run, I would like to say that never releasing firmware updates, a contrario, is by no means a proof that the product is polished... But you are free to dream... ;-)
As I said in my first post, this proverbe does not mean, a contrario, that "if you don't fix it, this is because it is not broke..." which you seem to believe...
It's a bit interesting that Fujifilm hasn't announced X-H2: IBIS + videography features from X-T3 + unlimited recording time like Sony A6400 + large capacity battery. X-T3 might just be a testbed for Fujifilm to prepare the release of the flagship X-H2 with the killer features?
So Fuji gives us a camera we love from the outset but when a FW update makes it better we have cause for complaint and conspiracy theories? I think this crowd would have had endless seizures in the day of mechanical cameras that just were sold on a take it or leave it basis.
Why coudn't they make all mentioned "updates" available on release? Is that a coincidence that fw update comes live after a rival announces it's camera and fw with advanced Eye-AF? My guess is that Fuji tries to keep it's cameras "just good enough or little better than rivals" and only worries about updates when someone else releases something new. That happened with poor AF of X-E2 (and others from that series) when everyone else got nice PDAF and now it happens with Eye-AF when everyone sees how cool this feature is.
@space- because software development r&d and all that takes time. And time to market matters. Besides, the xt3 is a very complete camera when it was released. What do you want, that they force you to buy a Fuji xt3 mark II like many companies traditionally do for better?
That's what I'm talking about. X-T3 was released only 5 months ago. They either were in rush or were waiting for Sony to release it's next camera (or get a pre-production copy) to look what Sony will implement in it. And after that just copied their ideas in own implementation. Why couldn't they do it all with release? I don't believe that it took too much time and they couldn't make it. Isn't it a smart move to not implement anything new and complicated till someone else won't?
Again. The xt3 is a complete camera. The other stuff they are adding is making. A better body. Normally you have to buy a new body for these.
You can hold a camera for release 6 months. 1. Year. Two years. Add new features when you think “it’s ready” and lose the market.
Quite simply this is bonus no don’t understand the complaint. The xt3 was very complete on release. It’s not like they hid something from you- you pay for what they advertised or you don’t. The rest is bonus. What’s the problem?
Raist3d releasing an update 5 months after release shows that either fw devs not doing their job well or company is afraid of rivals and their tech. Only "problem" is how excited people about that. Very simple trick. Like "we have a product, be it's not really finished, we will sell you 60% ready one at start but will issue fw updates over time and call it with some fancy name like Kaizen". And people are so happy with this. Ever wondered why no one is doing this but Fuji? It's not because Fuji is that unique or "Good Inc.". It's not about customer care. It's about competition with other brand's features. And if Sony didn't release a6400 and a9 update, Fuji would never do their kaizen X-T3 update. That's what I'm talking about. They're never first, they just try to make their products features even to rivals and looking at the rivals, not customers.
@Spaceman - releasing a firmware update 5 months after launch I believe is completely meaningless to the point you are trying to present. Software can change a lot in 5 months. R&D and techniques take time. 5 months can be critical in the market.
The XT3 was fine as sold and was already amazing. It's hardly a beta product.
And of course there's something about competition here- no kidding! I mean, where is the bad in a company trying to stay competitive by given its customer base more items over time that traditionally companies don't do? Though Sony is also doing it now in this rev.
Why would the T3 be different from any other Fuji camera? Wait 2 years before buying a new Fuji: you will end up with a product that is patched up to its potential for half the money.
@Spaceman What are you talking about? Do you know Fuji? For i think every Model of the X-Series the released a substantional AF-Update via Firmware a few Months after launch. And so they do with the X-T3. In the video above they say they released over 250 Updates since the release of the X-Series. I hope that the AF will be faster and have a better Eye-Af after the FW release in April.
It's interesting that if a manufacturer doesn't offer a certain feature, they're falling behind the competition, and when the feature gets added later, then they're just a copycat or playing catch-up. I suppose, then, that every manufacturer must be the first to offer every feature, because otherwise they're doing something wrong?
I thought Fuji is respectable Japanese company, one of the innovators and market leaders and not some no-name Chinese company that just copies well-known products or features.
It all depends on point of view. One can say "wow, Fuji does a nice job updating it's cameras via firmwave, how nice" while another can say that Fuji sells unfinished products that were not tested and polished properly and only makes them as good as they can be only few years later. When I was a Fuji camera owner, I was like the first one. But now I think as the latter :) It looks like Fuji is waiting for others to release their products and takes their ideas to implement in it's cameras or decides which features to include and which to not.
Red fox. No damn way it’s Fuji and will be till I die. Just because newcomers have only know the trendy new name doesn’t mean I’ll ever change etc etc..
Fuji didn’t release an unfinished product. That’s complete nonsense. I guess you would prefer the company releases an xt3 II forcing you to buy a new body just for the upgrades? This is what camera conpanies traditionally have done.
Time to market matters. Software development and R&D takes time and new things are discovered. Either get a free firmware upgrade making a complete canera even better or spend more money for a new body rev up. I know which one I prefer.
Who does that today? Olympus with cheap cameras? Or Canon with cheap SLRs? Either Fuji software department is too slow and have to be fired or they're doing this on purpose.
Who does what? Make you buy another body? It's what a lot of companies have done traditionally. Look at Canon and Nikon. Nikon just now is doing more with the Z, that's kinda new for them. Fuji even released a last way past time firmware upgrade years after for their X100... you really think they just released an unfinished X100 back then?
Either you like Kaizen, or you'd prefer a more developed product at a later point in time with no Kaizen. That's fine, you pay your money and choose. But why would you change your mind based on whether you own the camera? That's just tribalism
Iuvenis, I don't like all those "games" that some vendors like to play. Fuji especially. While it may sound like a hater's speech, but it's just my point of view, and I owned a lot of cameras and only consider them as an instrument. Fuji always states that their cameras are "as good as FF" and their optics are "better because it's designed for APS-C sensor" which is total BS :) Same goes with Kaizen stuff. They don't say "oh, we saw that someone made it better so we decided to make it too cause we screwed up with that on start", but telling cool stories about customer support with all those fw. But that's nothing more than marketing.
Yeah, but currently Fuiji has the second best video specs of a MILC. I mean atleast they're offering a 10 bit codec for their Log footage where other companies expect you to shoot Log with 8 bit which shouldn't be done.
good point. thats important. im certain the next a7sIII will have that in camera and 4k 60p at ff and 10bit.. im just hoping they can do it without overheating. a7 are horrible for heat control.
I feel like they won't have any of that. I mean to have all the features they want plus 10 bit recording their body is going to be as big as the S1 and people aren't about that. They like their cameras small but that's why they have so many heating issues.
All reviews made ma thinking X-T3 is above an beyond all other autofocus systems. As usual, when dust settles and hype goes back to where it belongs (fuji forum), truth comes up. Yet another over hyped product.
What reviews? The DPR review that gave it a gold award? I don't think they said anything like this. They just tested what they got in the box, good and bad, and thought it was a really good camera. No hype.
MirrorLessHater, I think the truth is in between. IBIS helps but may produce unwanted blur, too, when we not need it. I know the various "tricks" to no transmit my shake to the sensor. But there is nothing I can do to prevent an imperfect algorithm to shake the sensor by mistake. Because every user must know that, even when IBIS is turned off, the sensor is actually hold in place actively by the IBIS electromechanism. The link between the sensor and the chassis in no longer a "hard" link, but a kind of elastic one, because it is an electromagnetic field. As such, this link has a resonance frequency, and any shake that matches, or is close to, this resonance frequency will increase the sensor vibrations, getting things worse.
Cont'd... As an example, I never had shutter shock issues with my DSLRs (Canon) until I use some Pentax and Olympus cameras with IBIS. It takes several iterations for Pentax and Olympus to reduce the shutter shock sensitivity, by making a quieter shutter or avoiding it with an electronic shutter. I am curious to know if they also managed to strengthen the link between the sensor and the chassis to reduce the resonance effect. I think that IBIS helps more to shoot stable videos than to take tack sharp stills. IBIS is limited to fully static subjects, IMHO, for best help. So this exclude landscapes with foliage dancing in a faint breeze, for example, or social shots in low light where you have to use a high shutter speed anyway because people move, unless you like blurry faces over a sharp background...
Great News for X-T3 Users! What else can they ask for? A free, fine Firmware Update.
No rant - but with Sony, Users usually buy a new Body, for a Update, and therefore new Features. ;-) And i do say this as A7 orginal User - where is the uncompressed RAW feature, as well as for A7R/S Mark I Users - Sony? No more early adopter - for Sony gear, nevermore.
Sony is changing their tune. FW 5.0 and 6.0 coming with substantial upgrades to AF for the latest bodies. I think the Original A7 was limited by first gen hardware.. Or, they've recently changed their philosophy on this. It's clear with recent announcements.
I agree on the lack of lossless compression though. Conversion to Adobe's DNG format (which has that of course) is not a workaround, if you work with Adobe software and want to keep your metadata edits away from your RAW files, in XMP sidecar files. Adobe doesn't support that with DNG, only with native RAWs.
@MikeRan - It seems to be true that Sony is now following Fuji(film) philosophy of significantly improving camera features. This makes both better, of course. I wouldn't be surprised if Fuji's improvement to AF weren't a direct result of what Sony is doing. I'm just happy I don't have to buy an X-T3 to get the improved focus. Can't wait. Until then the X-T3 is a huge improvement on the X-T2. Still not as good as my old 1D-X but oh well. Now let's hope Canon and Nikon do the same. Eye focus in "C" mode for the EOS-R next, please.
The sensor comes into play here as well so it's not just the processor. The sensor readout is 1.5x faster on the X-T3 so the firmware has much faster access to image information so can make quicker calculations in real time. I think in the Gulf Expo talk (a few days ago- look on FujiRumors for a link) someone asked about older sensor cameras and Fuji didn't explicitly say no but my read was that the PR guy for Fuji wanted to be nice. Think the answer is no for older sensor bodies. Hope I'm wrong because I still have my X-T2 as my backup camera.
Seems from the limited video the tracking is decent but not unreal. They didn't demo the EyeAF improvement. I guess it's not ready yet, or it's not close to the A6400 or A9 FW 5.0 (Or perhaps A9/A7III existing performance.)
Yeah I know. I shoot A9 which is the best of them all. But I know there is reasonable disagreement that tracking on the $6000 pro bodies is similar. So I wasn’t gonna pick that argument.
Perfect, an already great camera gets even better. Nothing to complain about. If you know what you buy when you buy it in the beginning and then complain when they add extra or new features , thinking that it was not a finished product to begin with, it seems you did not really know what you bought at first after all. Im still with Nikon as well as Fuji and they compliment each other in a great way. Sure it would be sweet if Nikon also handed out extra stuff with their FW updates. But i have not much to complain about at all on any of those cameras i have, so instead i can look forward to that on the X-T3.
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