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Foldable GoPro Karma drone comes with detachable stabilizer

Published Sep 19, 2016 | Lars Rehm

GoPro has today announced its much-rumored Karma drone, which the company calls an 'end-to-end storytelling solution.' The quad-copter is compatible with all HERO 4 and HERO 5 cameras and foldable for convenient transport in a backpack. GoPro's objective was to create a package small enough to always take with you, no matter the activity you want to film.

Included in the box is the Karma grip which can hold the drone's detachable 3-axis stabilizer, allowing for the shooting of smoothly stabilized hand-held footage. It can also be mounted to vehicles or other objects and controls shutter and shooting modes.

The Karma's controller comes with an integrated touch display that can be used for parameter setup but during flight also lets you see what the camera is recording. GoPro says the Karma has been designed with beginner pilots in mind. There is an automatic one-button takeoff and landing function and built-in no-fly zones prevent the drone from flying into restricted areas. The Karma also flies back to you when it is out of range, loses connection or when the battery is low. Built-in Auto Shot Paths allow for the easy shooting of drone selfies. The GoPro Karma will be available October 23 for $799.99 without camera, for $999.99 in a bundle with the HERO5 Session or for $1099.99 with the HERO5 Black.

Tags: drone, gopro, photokina-2016

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Martyn McMad

A great deal of talk about the DJI Mavic versus the Karma on the net. The usual question of which one is better etc. They are both amazing in my opinion but as a GoPro Hero 4 owner who has a need for stabilisation on the ground it seems to make sense for me to stick to the IQ of the Hero 4 and enhance my existing GoPro kit with the stabilized grip. So, if I've got the Hero 4, the grip, spare batts, the apps, the telescopic handle-thingamabob, the wrist mount, head mount, battery chargers - I may as well just get the darn drone! Simples ! Yes, "follow me" would have been nice.

Oct 2, 2016permalink

AlanG

Besides for beginners, I think there is a role for this. I have several drones for aerial stills and videos. I built one specifically to carry a GoPro 4 in order to get fisheye stills and videos to supplement my other shots. So this would have been a simpler, cheaper, and more convenient option for me.

Sep 21, 2016permalink

Franz Weber

Just to bad she doesnt have "follow-me"-mode

Sep 21, 2016permalink

mrwhite76

Its success will be influenced by the software quality (flight modes, waypoints, etc.)... and sadly no collision-detection systems.

Sep 20, 2016permalink

Peter Galbavy

I bought a Phantom 4 a few weeks ago having had a Parrot AR...2 for a few years. I am not disappointed with the P4 nor am I feeling anything but "meh" toward the Karma based on the launch materials. It's 2x the price point it should be at given the proposed features and performance.

Sep 20, 2016permalink

shuttertothink

I actually think it's a good value when you consider GoPro is throwing in the Karma Handle, the detachable gizmo bracket and a nice case free. I think the built-in screen will be a selling point for novices. Don't get me wrong - I still think arch-rival Phantom 4 is a better drone (I have one), but for the not-so-serious part-time drone head, I think it's got legs.

Sep 20, 2016permalink

Kjartan Haugen

Just to bad it doesnt have "follow-me"-mode

Sep 20, 2016permalink

JohannessGerhard

WHY doesn't it have follow-me mode?? It's ridiculous to come to market with all the bells and whistles and omit this feature most 'active' people want.

FAIL

Sep 20, 2016permalink

Hotsauce91

Personally I think it's GREAT value. How much is a DJI Osmo? $400? How much is a Go pro Hero 5 black? $400? So you literally paid $300 more and get a Drone with controller and backpack. So for $1100, you get a Phantom 3 professional (equivalent drone), a DJI osmo (equivalent handheld camera gimbal), AND a 4k waterproof action cam.

Sep 20, 2016permalink

(unknown member)

That looks really cool. I want one, but I will wait a while till I read the user reviews and the price drops a bit.

Sep 20, 2016permalink

GiorgosKorn

Unfortunately as we can see from previous GoPRo products the price waont fall. At least not soon or when a new product from the company comes out.

Sep 20, 2016permalink

Franz Weber

Wow, this is very nice looking. And she even got a drone.

Sep 20, 2016permalink

LFPCPH

Year - goodlooking with a drone - my dreamgirl....

Sep 20, 2016permalink

Martyn McMad

Ha ha ha !

Oct 2, 2016permalink

Pierre Louis

One important question: Can you record USABLE 4K footage with this? By 'usable', I mean non ultra-distorted, ultra-wide. The angle of view on my Phantom 4 is perfect. The angle of view when I used a GoPro 4 on my Phantom 2 was way too wide, making the horizons curved and ugly.

I imagine the Hero5 still only records 4k in its wide mode, which means you can only get truly usable footage out of the Karma when shooting in the medium mode at 2.7k.

Sep 20, 2016permalink

dash2k8

I would imagine it's a matter of degrees. Demanding theatre-quality 4k footage on such a small camera is quite a tall order. Likewise it will never compare with a A7S2. I think in the end it's what each shooter is willing to accept as "usable."

Sep 20, 2016permalink

Aroart

Awesome. Another drone I will learn to fly so I can teach the people that assume it's easy. Marketing makes them think that. 1st tip, buy a small one you can fly in your house so you have some basic orientation skills. 2nd tip, you will crash. 3rd tip you will crash again. If you want to get the shot on shooting day buy 3 drones. With at least 3-6 batteries. Learn to fly with no GPS. Balance the blades before every flight and replace them after every 10 flights. I've bought tested and owned over 15 types of drones and was flying them 6 years ago when they were called multicopters. They all need maintenance and crash. Hire a pro for your pro shots. Only buy this if you want to learn to fly, know it will take time, effort, patience , mechanical knowledge , flight knowledge .. You might get a few flights with no hiccups and get some cool shots. Trust me, for most people they will wind up as a cool prop in you studio. But no body listens they will buy them and find out the hard way.

Sep 20, 2016permalink

Pierre Louis

Replace propellers after every 10 flights? Why? I've never replaced a propeller that wasn't damaged in a crash, nor have I ever balanced my Phantom 3 or 4 props. I've never had any issues, so I'm wondering what are the possible issues doing this avoids. Thanks!

Sep 20, 2016permalink

3DSimmon

Tip 1, do not buy a small drone and learn to fly it indoors, that is stupid.
Tip 2, nobody needs to balance blades before each flight and nobody needs to replace blades after every 10 flights.
I have a phantom 4 and anybody with half a brain can fly that thing, have had it for 1 month so far, never crashed.
Your first flight should be outdoors in a wide open space far from people and buildings. You will learn quickly, and have fun at the same time.

Sep 20, 2016permalink

dash2k8

Who flies a drone indoors? Unless by "indoors" you mean a football stadium or at least an auditorium/gym. Flying in a normal-sized room? Yikes!

Sep 20, 2016permalink

Aroart

Flying a small, (like the size of your hand aircraft) indoors on tight surroundings will make you a much better pilot in maneuvering and orientation.. If you do not balance your blades then they start causing a slight vibration that can or will cause a bit vibration in your footage and also comprimIse the longetivity of components inside the body of the aircraft . The blades also weakin in time and the can actually break and you do not want that happening in flight... I don't mind ignorant people making silly comments, that's to be expected. You need to remember these are safety percations to become a better pilot.. How would you feel about yourself the day your aircraft snaps a blade or you lose gps and goes out of control and injures some one.. but like I said before no one listens...This is exactly why they should only be flown by licensed professionals. ..

Sep 20, 2016permalink

Hotsauce91

OMG what a bunch of HORRIBLE tips rofl. Practice to fly in your house without GPS using a small drone? Why would you want to do that? Here's a REAL tip, Buy a drone with GPS and practice flying without the headache. Drones are extremely easy to fly, don't listen to "the purist" and think you HAVE to fly without GPS. That's like saying you HAVE to learn to drive a stick shift before driving an automatic. NO YOU DONT.

Sep 20, 2016permalink

PocketOrigin

That detachable gimbol head is neat. Instant switch from Land to Air shots. Look forward to a real user review.

Sep 20, 2016permalink

dash2k8

I love GoPro but think they came to the drone party way too late. Aside from the foldable wings, this drone will need to do something else to make me even consider adding it to my current fleet of DJI drones of various sizes. Maybe a stronger torque for flying in stronger winds? Judging from the pictures, I doubt that.

The detachable arm thing would be cool for a first-time drone owner, but many of us already have stabilizing rigs for GoPros. So again, late to the party. We'll have to see if the market has any space left for it.

Sep 20, 2016permalink

jimmy.walsh

I agree that GoPro really needs something to set themselves apart - especially given their recent sales problems. I think the Karma looks pretty well-judged. One of the big problems with drones is that they are often used alongside other camera equipment. As such, they need to be compact enough to be transportable alongside an interchangeable lens system. I really like the fact that the Karma is so versatile - it's an action cam, a gimbal and a drone - and it all fits in a backpack. I'm not sure that you get the same versatility and compact size with any of the DJI products?

Sep 20, 2016permalink

Pierre Louis

Actually, for many people, myself included, portability is a HUGE factor. As is setup time. The way you can carry the Karma in a small backpack with the props left on, and the way you can have your controller ready for action is literally 1 second (just open the lid) vs about 1 minute with DJI as you fumble to attach a tablet to your controller and plug it in and add a sunhood are a couple of HUGE workflow improvements. For those that want/need true mobility and super fast setups between locations (given of course that the Karma is quick to boot up, which we need to wait to find out), this seems like a killer product!

Sep 20, 2016permalink

dash2k8

Good points by both posters above. For me, portability is less of a make-or-break factor because I shoot professionally with drones so even if my drone was very portable, I already have a bunch of other stuff in the truck/van.

Jimmy, you're right that I don't have the same versatility and compact size with my current drones, but I've learned to work with the current system just as we lug tons of lenses and multiple camera bodies instead of using a point-n-shoot. But I totally get what you're saying.

Pierre, your point is also excellent. Getting into the air quickly will be a high selling point for this drone. To be fair, I already have everything rigged up on my Inspire's control so it's not like I'm setting everything up after I arrive, but I get you. Will these factors be enough to get Phantom owners to buy into a new system? We'll have to see.

Sep 20, 2016*permalink

jimmy.walsh

I still think portability is important for those of us who shoot professionally. There are many occasions when the size/weight/shape of my kit dictates what equipment I can take with me. For instance, it would be great if I could easily carry my DSLR, 3 lenses, a tripod, wireless mics and a drone. This is especially so when I'm flying- as I don't want to put cameras/ lenses/ a drone in checked luggage. I think the compact size of the Karma could be the difference between me taking a drone and leaving it behind. Best of all, I can get rid of my Osmo (which is surprisingly bulky). I don't discount what you're saying - I just think that the Karma does have a fair bit going for it.

Sep 20, 2016*permalink

dash2k8

Good points. I totally hear you.

Sep 20, 2016permalink

David M So

The issue is, DJI is expected to release the Mavic at the end of September. So the question is, will the Karma have enough to set itself apart from the Mavic?

Sep 20, 2016permalink

Martyn McMad

Flexibility is the key for me. Having stabilized video in the air is great but then switching to the grip for continued stabilized video during the considerable times I won't be flying the drone is what stands out to me and attracts me to the KARMA......as well as all the other points I put in my earlier post.

Oct 2, 2016permalink

David M So

Huh! It definitely looks cool... I'm just wondering if it would have made more of a difference about a year ago. After all, isn't DJI expected to release their own foldable drone soon? The cost also seems a bit steep. It is nice how you get the handheld stabilizer, but that fact that you need to provide your own GoPro is a bit of a shame. That makes the price around $1200, the same price as a Phantom 4. The Phantom 4 seems to be flushed out with more features. That being said, you don't need a phone or tablet to fly the Karma. I just don't know if GoPro did enough to make the Karma a real standout from the competition.

Sep 19, 2016permalink

JLim22

Wow! it's a very nice looking drone! Fold-away wings, monitor included joy-stick, and the hand grip are all nice features. But I wish they mentioned something about other sensors for safety and crash avoidance.

Only drawback I can think of is the camera itself. The FOV is way to wide for pleasing aerial video. If you look at the DJI Inspire, the fov is 94' or 72' depending on the model. I own the phantom 4 which has 94' and I think it's a bit wide sometimes. Of course you can fly closer, but that means distortion and risk of crashing. Maybe Hero 5 black has a crop in 4k mode?

Sep 19, 2016permalink

fullstop

That's great idea

Sep 19, 2016permalink

qwertyasdf

I've just started aerial photography, and find it frustrating that all action cams are fisheye or ultrawide....

Sep 20, 2016permalink

jimmy.walsh

I think stabilisation plays a big part here - it's easier to stabilise a wide-angle lens. But I agree in principle - often the wide-angle view is less than flattering from some perspectives.

Sep 20, 2016permalink

Brian Patrick

My God, now that is one beautiful piece of kit.

Sep 19, 2016permalink

Nobby2016

i once had a DJI phantom... DJI is the worst company i had ever to deal with.
i will NEVER EVER buy anything from them again.

their support is abysmal.

but this gopro karma drone is tempting.
i might buy it.

Sep 19, 2016permalink

BJN

GoPro has had some of the worst support I've ever dealt with.

Sep 19, 2016permalink

mariuss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlDzYIIOYmM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1C6QRodsc8

Sep 19, 2016*permalink

BJN

"...and end-to-end life capture solution." Ugggh.

Sep 19, 2016permalink

3DSimmon

Portability wins me over on this drone, and I love gopro's tones and colours. I would only hope the lens on the hero5 will produce a straight(ish) horizon line.

Sep 19, 2016permalink

Daniel Saredi

Wait for the 27th Sept and DJI's Mavic! :)

Sep 19, 2016permalink

Nobby2016

"Wait for the 27th Sept and DJI's Mavic"

yeah or better just burn you money... DJI.. once and never again.

Sep 19, 2016*permalink

M14hrm

i dont think so , its look like super wide , not strait linewide

Sep 19, 2016permalink

dash2k8

Nobby is clearly anti-DJI. I'm sorry you had some bad experiences, but judging by sales and popularity of DJI's products, you are indeed in the minority.

Sep 20, 2016permalink

Daniel Saredi

I have never had any bad experience with any DJI products so far. I don't know what you are talking aobut Nobby2016. Maybe you want to share your experience instead of just bad mouthing DJI?

Sep 21, 2016permalink

M14hrm

Using my friends Phantom 4 for a week , i ordered one yesterday , i dont think so any other drone cannot beat DJI product. Photokina show has reveal lots of them plus karma , Dji MaviC is for portable for drone market , not for phantom seris ,

Sep 21, 2016permalink

Garug

Rainproof would have been nice, the concept is good, I have been testing much similar concept for some years, but they failed to make it so that it would have free view up/down.

Sep 19, 2016permalink

Garug

Nice, the Hero5 is waterproof and reasonable priced.

Sep 19, 2016permalink

mpgxsvcd

Oh dear God! Take my money now.

Sep 19, 2016permalink

princecody

Looks like the drone Yuneec?

Sep 19, 2016permalink

Mark Banas

Similar to the Yuneec Breeze, yes. Actually, this looks (spec-wise) like pretty much every entry-level drone introduced in the past year: Airdog, Hawk, Zerotech. The difference is that it's coming from GoPro, so it'd better be rock-solid dependable.

Sep 19, 2016permalink

MrTaikitso

If the 'follow me' mode is as good or better than the DJI Phantom 4 does then GoPro have a hit on their hands. One thing, anyone know what the flight time is on one battery charge? Latest DJI is about 25 mins.

Sep 19, 2016permalink

Dianoda

Gopro website specs flight time at up to 20 minutes on a one hour charge. Battery is 5100mAh 14.8V. Assuming the software/controls are fully baked, it could be a winner.

Sep 19, 2016permalink

Magnil

Does it even have follow me mode???

Sep 19, 2016permalink

JoeWall

I'm not sure it has "follow me"

Sep 19, 2016permalink

MrTaikitso

It does have a 'selfie' mode from reports which I assume is the same. Priceless feature.

Sep 19, 2016permalink

JoeWall

Not really. The selfie mode assumes you are not moving. if you move, it will keep recording the same location.

This drone is blind compared to phantom drones

Sep 19, 2016permalink

mario loconte

wallet following mode, for sure

Sep 19, 2016permalink

MarkDolf

It does NOT have any Follow Me mode. IMHO, that is really bad compared to the competition. I think a lot of people will lose the interest in Karma, when they find this out. Really bad decision by GoPro.

Sep 19, 2016permalink

princecody

How does it compare to DJI Phantom 4?

Sep 19, 2016permalink

Garug

Probably better for someone who can fly. The Karma form factor is better for high speed and windy conditions. I also like how it is transportable.

Sep 19, 2016permalink

M14hrm

i seen so many drones under £1500 pounds , compared , they say somthing , when u take them to fly , They R Not What They Supposed To Do , Yuneec / USRobotic / Now Karma ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, My Conclusion Is , Phantom 4 Is Very Good , Got More Money Buy Dji Inspire

Sep 19, 2016permalink

Mister Joseph

Instagram husbands can now purchase salvation for $1,100

Sep 19, 2016permalink

Dianoda

Very cool, I love the focus on portability. Bundled pricing with the hero5/black5 seems pretty decent for a ready to fly gopro drone. Looking forward to reviews.

Sep 19, 2016*permalink

Sonyshine

I WANT one!

Sep 19, 2016permalink

princecody

Better than the Parrot Bebop?!

Sep 19, 2016permalink

Melchiorum

Parrot Bebop is a joke. It's basically an overpriced toy that doesn't even have a stabilizer. It's not even in the same league as DJI, Yuneed and now the GoPro.

Sep 19, 2016permalink

Nuts About Photography

Money can't leave my pocket fast enough on this one.

Just a bit of advice. Save the $100 on theGP5, and buy the session. Without the built in GPS, no one will find where you have been.

Sep 19, 2016permalink

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