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Wacom Cintiq Pro 16 comes with UHD screen and 94% Adobe RGB gamut

Wacom has updated its Cintiq line of pen displays that allow you to work with a stylus directly on a screen that is connected to a Mac or PC. The 13" Cintiq Pro 13 and the 16" Cintiq Pro 16 differ mainly in terms of display size, resolution and color gamut. The larger model comes with a 3840 x 2160 UHD resolution and can display 94% of the Adobe RGB color space. The smaller variant offers a 1920 x 1080 Full-HD panel that covers 87% of Adobe RGB.

The ExpressKeys and TouchRing controls of previous models, that offered easy access to frequently used tools on the right side of the display, have been removed and replaced by an optional Express Key remote. The tablets also come with pop-out legs that allow you to angle them up. 

Both models support multi-touch gestures and come with Wacom's new Pro Pen 2, which, according to Wacom, is four times more accurate and pressure sensitive than the previous version. The Cintiq Pro 13 will be available from next month for $1,000. The larger model will set you back an additional $500 when it arrives in February 2017. More information is available on the Wacom website.

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SC820

This is a really pretty device. Of course for the budget conscious, a simple Wacom tablet like the Intuos 3 may suffice (http://www.wacomtabletreviews.net/9-best-features-of-the-wacom-intuos-3-tablet/). They're just $150 and you can get a great laptop to pair with it to do lightroom tasks as well as management of photos with a spacious hdd. Surely a Dell XPS i7 will show up on slick deals and with excellent touchscreen display, to bat. : )

May 28, 2017
canonluber

This is a stand alone PC. You can't compare it to an IPAD. Lightroom and photoshop apps on IPAD PRO. are not nearly as useful as the program on Pc or Mac platforms. I find my IPAD PRO very dissappointing compared to QHD computer with pen sensitive screen and dual video cards. The apple pen sucks.

Nov 27, 2016
kevphil

Well, you're the ONE person I've ever heard say this. Yes, the iPad Pro is a VERY closed system (more so than even the Mac) but it is very likely the BEST pen-tablet combo out there, from both my own experience and the reviews of others that I have read. Apple-hater, anyone? ;)

Jul 13, 2017
dennis tennis

why would anyone buy this, don't they know that the new Macbook Pro is all you need? An Apple product is a cure for all of your worldly concerns.

Nov 20, 2016
Fixx
Fixx

??
This is meant to be connected to MBP, not to replace it.

Nov 20, 2016
Dave Boy

Honestly, the iPad Pro plus Astropad on the Mac should cause Wacom some concern. Although there are many that still may need the Cintiq,that combo will and likely has taken tsome business away from Wacom. It is a compelling solution for many professionals.

Nov 18, 2016
dotyman

That's what I use, and I love it. Having the iOS and compatibility with my Macs and Apple TV for mirroring the iPad Pro display for presentations makes the combo as good as anything on the market. I sold my Cintiq Companion after the iPad Pro proved to be a worthy replacement with the added benefits of iOS apps.

Nov 19, 2016
D Horne

This is my new favourite combination.

Nov 22, 2016
Rob
Rob

Wacom still haven't fixed the annoying problem of any kind of dragging motion snapping back to the original position, unless you uncheck the "Use Windows Ink" box in the pen mapping setting, which would cause pen pressure control to disappear. This happens in Lightroom and Photoshop, whenever you are dragging any sliders, working with the Liquify tool, just dragging the image around while navigating, etc. They have known about this problem for years (lots of compaints on the web about it) and it's still not fixed.

So instead of focusing on new products, why don't they fix this huge problem that renders their current products almost useless in many situations?

Nov 18, 2016
GlobalGuyUSA

Is this a Wacom problem, though -- or an Adobe problem?

Nov 24, 2016
Rob
Rob

It's definitely not an Adobe problem, because the dragging behavior even just when using Windows, such as dragging scrollbars, resizing windows, etc. would have a significant lag. You'd have to move past a certain threshold for the dragging motion to even be registered, and then it would jump/snap to the position you've dragged to a moment later.

Nov 24, 2016
Elite83

No note of color depth? If it's not 10-bit then it's not of much use.

Nov 18, 2016
Fixx
Fixx

8-bit would be a lot of use. 7-bit, that would be a problem.

Nov 20, 2016
GlobalGuyUSA

Generally Wacom supports 10-bit. I don't see why this would be different. At least the higher end model, which seems to use its current high-end Cintiq technology.

Nov 24, 2016*
Elite83

After switching to a 10-bit display it would be difficult to revert to 8-bit. Grayscale gradients on a 10-bit is a world of difference.

Nov 24, 2016
Matto715

94% of Adobe RGB, not enough. And - can it be color calibrated? If Eizo, NEC, etc. can do 100%, why can't WACOM? I'll gladly buy one, once this is finally done.

Nov 18, 2016
The Squire
The Squire

It just misses the 6% of colors people don't actually use. Specifically: Puce, umber, maroon, cerise, and taupe. As long as you avoid those unpopular colors, you'll be fine.

Nov 18, 2016
Ran Plett

I *only* shoot when the sky turns puce. Love me some puce.

Nov 19, 2016
GlobalGuyUSA

94% is fine. If Wacom says 94%, its probably more like 95%. Also, if that's part of the cost to get rid of PARALLAX, and not make it any chunkier of a beast, then it is WELL-WORTH IT. You could always set up a dual monitor and double-check it, if you're worried.

Of course, they wouldn't have cut to 94%, if they could do 100%. Its clear they are pushing the limit of their technology.

Nov 25, 2016
StevenLyons

Would be nice to see a head to head comparison with iPad Pro.

Nov 18, 2016
kevphil

That would be really REALLY hard, since they're two different products, designed for two (mostly) different purposes.

Jul 13, 2017
EthanP99

Im in for one.

Nov 18, 2016
disraeli demon
disraeli demon

As a digital artist who works for print most of the time, I find the proportions of these devices very frustrating - a 13" screen with a 4:3 ratio would be so much more useful to me, I'd sell my existing 13" Cintiq straight away to get one. Come on Wacom, we're not all storyboard artists.

Nov 17, 2016
Hachu21

Surface pro (3:2) and Ipad pro (4:3) are pleasure to use just thanks to their screen ratio.
16:9 video centric screens are a plague. 16:10 screens are the minimum acceptable for me.

Nov 18, 2016
kevphil

The Micro$oft Surface Studio also has a more useful proportion.

Jul 13, 2017
Androole

A 16" 4K pen & touch enabled display for $1500 is actually a really good price.

Looks like Wacom is feeling the competition from the Microsoft Surface and the other Windows manufacturers in this space now. Finally, it's about time!

Nov 17, 2016
Lan

I think you've misunderstood; there's no computer here, you still have to buy that alongside one of these... and I don't think it's a good price at all, I think it's a vastly overinflated price!

Given the competition from the likes of Parblo and Ugee I'd hoped for a significantly lower price. Glad to see they're still in the game though :)

Nov 17, 2016
Androole

I've been a Tablet PC and Wacom user for well over a decade at this point, so I'm quite familiar. At any given time I have a desktop and a workstation laptop that will get periodically upgraded, so having a separate display rather than an integrated unit isn't actually a disadvantage to me at all. In the past I've used Tablet PCs partly because they are priced so much better than the dedicated Cintiqs, even though they packed a computer into the equation. That's not longer the case with something like this.

When you compare the size, bulkiness, price and quality of Wacom's previous Cintiq displays, this is a good step up from that. The resolution bump is a big deal.

I'd never seen Parblo and Ugee before, but looking them up now, they are 1080p only, and glossy displays, both of which are disadvantages. Well priced, though, admittedly.

Nov 17, 2016
CheersUK
CheersUK

I've used Wacom for a number of years. They are the best you can get for what they do, no doubt, but I've felt they are over priced.
The Cintiq was pretty cool when it was first released, but technology has crept up, especially with the new Surface Studio, and even Surface Pros. Once you price in a computer to power the Cintiq it looks even less attractive.
I wouldn't say the Cintiq is irrelevant yet, but I do feel its days are numbered.

Nov 18, 2016*
Stu 5

CheersUK, Surface Studio is not a contender for serious work with a gloss screen and a pen that is not as good as the Wacom. Plus the Surface Pro cannot go totally flat.

Nov 18, 2016
kevphil

Stu 5 That's what really holds the Surface Studio back: The pen technology is just inferior to Wacom, and maybe even more so to the iPad Pro (but that's a different horse, anyway).

Jul 13, 2017
sibuzaru

Come on Wacom, enough with the 16:9 ratio

Nov 17, 2016
Simion1

Not for me, I like 16:9. The majority of my photos are 3:2 landscape, therefore 16:9 makes room for palettes to the sides of the working space.

Nov 17, 2016*
DFPanno
DFPanno

Do these work well with LR or a waste of time/desk space?

Nov 17, 2016
igg77

They work very well with LR, much faster than using a mouse, even in 1080 and needing to scroll the sliders often as a result. I was very disappointed the 13" resolution is only 1080 again. Their MobileStudio Pro 13" has 2560x1440 and 96% Adobe RGB. Not sure if text/buttons will be too small so I will wait to see one in the shops and decide. There are some issues with drivers as well and currently I lose pressure sensitivity if I set it up to have no lag. Not so important for LR but a problem for Photoshop. Selections and changing sliders is an absolute breeze I will never go back to not using one. I can't find anything else on the market which has the resolution, color and accurate digitizer on the market. Hence the price premium perhaps. I still use an Eizo for the color for now.

Nov 18, 2016
GlobalGuyUSA

It is weird that the $1000 screen is only 1080 and less than 90% Adobe RGB. Talk about pushing you to the $1500 model. *rolling eyes*

Nov 24, 2016
JordanAT
JordanAT

They should have renamed it "The President" because that bezel is yuuuuuge!

Nov 17, 2016
Jeff Peterman
Jeff Peterman

But for the intended use, a large bezel is useful as a palm rest, so that you cover less of the image when working.

Nov 17, 2016
nachos

it also makes for a nice visual break from background clutter. Bezels and hoods are good things...

Nov 17, 2016
Dave Boy

The iPad Pro (with Apple Pencil) with Astropad has destroyed any desire to buy a Cintiq.

Nov 18, 2016
EthanP99

Apple ipad cannot replace a cintiq. Sorry you never had one.

I have both.

Nov 18, 2016
Jeff Peterman
Jeff Peterman

iPad or iPad Pro? There is a big difference between those two.

Nov 18, 2016
dylanear

The difference between a Cintiq on a good desktop workstation and ANY ipad is dramatically larger than any difference between the iPad and the iPad pro. The iPad can be a fantastic art tool, but it is in no way close to a well specced Mac or PC for serious applications and painting. If you think an iPad will be good enough for you? It probably is. But for serious pros, they aren't even close.

Nov 18, 2016
dotyman

iPad Pro easily replaces the Cintiq Companion. I sold my Companion after thoroughly comparing the two. The only thing the Windoz-based Cintiq can do that the iPad can't is run native Windoz apps, like the fullest version of Sketchbook. Also, the Wacom pen doesn't require charging. However, the iPad Pro is a much more versatile tool as a tablet than the Cintiq, so I prefer the iPad Pro. Also, I much prefer the screen dimensions better on the iPad Pro for sketching and reading and annotating documents.

Nov 19, 2016