RED quietly removes mention of Hydrogen One modules from website

The pooch is looking over its shoulder with a very nervous expression!

Trying to be all things to all people is always a recipe for failure.

The writing was on the wall pretty much from the start tbh...

Will it blend?

Just normal RED MO. Promise the earth sun and moon, deliver as little as possible (at inflated prices).

LOL, typical RED.
Can't trust them any farther than you can throw them.

This almost feels like a Kickstarter product. Glad I didn't blow $1200 on this thing.

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The amazing, revolutionary, out-of-this-word, industry changing, mind melting, universe bending BS holographic phone, is no more.

Their cameras at least are good. Overpriced as all hell especially when you consider the ecosystem, so much so even Apple would think twice before pulling that stuff off. But the phone is just overpriced junk, it's frankly embarassing, you can get a much better phone camera for several hundred $ less.

FAIL!

insult added to injury ..... ouch

red really screwed up beginning to end ,

Where can I buy a medium format phone?

In a functional sense, how is some kind of expensive add-on lens module from RED any better than a Chinese $10.00 add-on wide angle lens or telephoto lens that protrudes from the body of the phone? Not image quality, function?

This just goes to show that phone enthusiasts (for photo/video) tend to have little overlap with ILC enthusiasts. Id wager most of the phone group are all about convenience and simplicity.

ILC already are modular, with lenses and flashes and grips ect. As i and many others have said here in the past, few who take up phone photography were ever likely to be ILC users, the two markets are separate.

ILC numbers are down bc people are more happy than ever and they don't get as much from an upgrade as they used to, which has nothing to do with phones.

Can I get a case for my Huawei that makes it look like a RED Hydrogen?

Seriously, I want that case.

If you can't see that modular is a thing of the past. I'll give you very easy exemple. Smartphones combined a bunch of things in one single device. It's the modern time. No one wants to carry extra stuff to do simple things. Unless it's a professional market, like the photography, with it's ILC, even with that, a lot of people prefer the one single camera do it all thing, not professionally in this case. Modular will never work, never, not in this case anyway.

This product was a failure before it was even released and even with every red-flag showing in full display, there were still plenty of sheep here ready to just drool over it. Just goes to show how easily fooled people here are.

It was just laughable how bad this product was.

Seems like if folks cared enough about the camera in their cell phone to buy such an expensive one from a company without any kind of proven history of making phones, they would probably just buy some kind of small dedicated camera... It's certainly interesting to learn about how much tech can be fitted into such a tiny device, but in the end it seems like there must be a limit to how much folks will pay for a phone, something that's likely to need to be replaced when the standards change in a few years. There's also the fact that once the camera gets sophisticated enough, the cell phone form factor becomes less and less attractive as it doesn't provide the same kind of physical contact points that a dedicated camera has and those really come in handy when there are so many options...

Has Hydrogen even been released yet?

Modularity done wrong.
RED feels the heat from BMP, Kinefinity and others.

What do you do as pm? Dumping 5-6k at bhphoto or Kinefinity and own a very decent cine mini, basic gear, two decklicked lenses...or you could rent some esoteric RED stuff for a week and need to own dedicated and expensive workstations while the others run Davinci on a 8-core Ryzen with 1080 card.

RED s process impedes workflow and creativity.

I would not bet a dime on REDs future anymore.

Comparing the specs of the 845 Red with my 845 Essential...One is a very polished and great phone and the Red plain sucks. The Essential has a cam that attaches on two ,magnetic pins. Works flawlessly but I don t like the cams features so no use. Doable.

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Red should offer to buy back all the Hydrogen phones, then. Especially if anyone bought them based on the promise of the modules.

Or the Hydrogen owners should file a class action against Red for false advertising. The value of the phones was the camera module powered by Red. That was the key promise and if they're not delivering it, they should offer to buy back the phones.

The product concept of red is an overwhelming mistake to begin with. LG and motorola have both already tried and failed in selling phone attachments or modules in the past. Tech evolves too fast and there's a reason why phones are getting thinner each year, not fatter.

Red Bye-drogen Gone

Translation: Red is dead!

Reminds me of what we tried (usually w.o. success) to get management to realize: Buy software and hardware based only on what it will do now, not what it's promised to do in the future.

Funny how everyone keeps asking for modular this and modular that but when something modular does come out or is prototyped, it never goes anywhere.

My guess is modularity doesn't really work with current era electronics.

Honestly, is anyone surprised by this? A shame for those who spent top dollar on this garbage. How does a company make such a huge mistake like this? How many millions were lost in this "mistake"? Honestly, how can a group of people come to such a terrible conclusion? I imagine the boss is a jerk who seen some stupid 3d gimmick and said MAKE THIS INTO A PHONE and not a single person said it was a bad idea. So lame.

kickstarter?

This company is a joke.

Surely a white elephant deserves a rickshaw?

DPR presented the RED smartphone relaying anything as it it was "real", including the availability date and introduction price.

This was mere promotion, not information. And as for anything else concerning this not-so-smartphone there is nothing real or true!

In other words, even the most ardent brand loyalists and apologists realised the phone and supposed 'platform' were a total joke, and RED are quietly trying to make it go away.

My guess is that the whole phone programme will ultimately get canned. Otherwise, there's a chance that it continues but with off the shelf Sony / Light multi camera modules, and no further mention of the 'holographic' display scam or 3D video ... after all, their video / cinema camera business is beginning to look rather uncompetitive given what various others are offering, particularly Sony, and they're going to need new revenue sources.

Overpriced and half baked products don't tend to do too well...

Bust of the year !
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If Red decide that the first model is no longer viable and replace it with a new unit that has a new sensor and new architecture, they had better do a straight swap for all the early adopters instead of an upgrade fee like they did with their cameras. It’s one thing to sell a work in progress with the promise of updates, it’s another thing entirely to sell a work in progress unit and then make it obsolete.