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Kickstarter: Fjorden grip for iPhone adds physical camera controls to your smartphone

Norwegian company Fjorden has launched a Kickstarter campaign for the Fjorden, the 'world's first pocketable, professional iPhone camera grip.'

Mobile photography is a big deal. iPhone photos have been featured on the covers of major publications, including Vogue, National Geographic and Time Magazine. Fjorden enhances iPhone's impressive photographic capabilities by adding 'professional-quality camera controls.'

The Fjorden grip has a two-stage shutter button. Like the shutter release on a dedicated camera, you half-press to focus and full-press to shoot. The Fjorden includes a customizable control dial that can adjust exposure, shutter speed, ISO, portrait mode aperture, focus and more. A multi-function button can be used to change shooting modes, adjust flash modes and more. Finally, the Fjorden includes a zoom level to switch between iPhone lenses or zoom in and out quickly.

While the Fjorden adds a grip and controls to your iPhone, it doesn't dramatically change the overall form factor of the iPhone. Fjorden is 10.7mm (0.39") deep. Attached to an iPhone 12 Pro, the total depth is 21mm (0.8"), which should be easily pocketable into most pants. The grip also doubles as a kickstand, which could prove useful for many users. If you don't want to have the grip on, it quickly detaches via a quick-release clip from the Fjorden MagSafe case.

Fjorden is compatible with a very wide range of iPhone models and Fjorden states it will work with future phones, too.

Fjorden works with the Fjorden Camera App. The camera app is designed for fast, intuitive one-handed shooting. The app's user interface is fully customizable, allowing the user to assign features or control parameters to Fjorden's hardware controls. The app is compatible with all iPhone models running iOS 14 or newer.

Fjorden Camera App (in development)

Fjorden Camera App features include full exposure controls (including EV, shutter speed, ISO, AE-L), focusing modes, white balance, lens switching and digital zoom, film simulations, file formats (including ProRAW on compatible iPhone models) and more. Kickstarter backers will be able to beta test the application, allowing them to influence its development.

While Fjorden has been designed with the Fjorden Camera App in mind, the grip is compatible with other leading camera apps and lenses, including ProCamera and Obscura apps and Moment lenses. Fjorden is teaming up with ProCamera for a special edition version of Fjorden.

Fjorden ProCamera special edition

Fjorden's iPhone cases for iPhone 11 and 12 are MagSafe compatible. The Fjorden uses a standard CR2430 coin cell battery and promises up to 12 months of battery life. The battery is user-replaceable. Fjorden comes with a two-year warranty and a 30-day money-back guarantee.

You can back Fjorden for as little as €119, which is just over $140. This 'early bird' special price is 25% off the eventual retail price of €159 (just under $190). The Fjorden includes the Fjorden Grip and Fjorden Universal Back Plate Adapter (which allows the grip to be compatible with all iPhone models that can run iOS 14 and future iPhone models). Shipping is expected to begin in February 2022. For more information on Fjorden, visit Kickstarter.


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Thomas Kachadurian
Thomas Kachadurian

I'd buy one for $150 if it worked for android. Makes me think about getting an iPhone.

2 months ago
rEVOLVE

They've BEEN making these for Android phones -but the problem like this one, is that you're required to use their special app to get the full functionality.

Problem is a lot of the Android phones with better cameras don't allow 3rd party software to control those cameras.

I saw this with my S20 Ultra last year - got something similar, but it only gave very rudimentary controls over some camera settings - and the other special cameras only worked with the 1st party camera software.

2 months ago
2 months ago
scokill
scokill

All the investment will be gone. Guaranteed money loser.

2 months ago
Hussar43

I am astonished at the level of negativity in these comments about this product. Is it a nationality thing? Not invented here syndrome? Or just hostility to the smart phone as a concept? I don’t know where any photographers would be without the people willing to take personal risk in the development of photography technology? I guess sitting at computer screens in bed sits as they do now. I really have seldom read such testaments to the negativity latent in human nature. Try and support someone who is trying to make a difference.

2 months ago
red pencil

most just hate smartphones,
It could be because a five-year-old kid could take a photo as good as they can because the technology allows her/him "…….it’s all a bit sad
Too many have old men thinking of days gone by…..spending too much money with the idea that it will improve their work or they just have nothing else to do

2 months ago*
jhunna

I agree with both of you, this is a neat device. My Sony Xperia 1 has a dedicated photo button that is a game changer in using the phone as a camera. I have this AND I have a FF setup. I applaud the ingenuity!

2 months ago
Mr Bolton

I'm not trying to specifically be negative-but this exact thing has been done, years ago. I bought my daughter one of these physical camera control providing grips for her iPhone 6 or 7. It had what this has. Also really cool looking accessory, but she never used it and now, since it won't work with later iPhones, it's recycle bin fodder :-(

1 month ago
crsantin

I use a comfortable case with my iPhone. No need for bulky attachments that eventually break with repeated use. I like using my iPhone for photography and video. I don’t understand the animosity towards iPhone photography. I’ve taken some great photos with my iPhone and I find it easy to use.

2 months ago
Dreamscape Photo
Dreamscape Photo

All i want is a grip, like the Nokia 1020 had

2 months ago
JJack
JJack

As some people already pointed out: so you need to lug another pocket-stretcher with you (and clip it on and off the phone if you don't want to look like a complete dork when you're making a call), instead of using a pocketable camera with physical controls already included. PLUS you get: a larger sensor, better optics, actual zoom, ability to shoot all day without draining the batery, no need to tappity-tap on it for seconds to unlock it before each use ... maybe even a viewfinder etc. All factory-installed.

So. Why?

Ah, right ... the iPhone's AI gimmickery.
Completely slipped my mind for a moment. After all, it's the age, when we don't so much *take* photos anymore, but rather *create* the *images*, right?

Hmm, but then again ... why do I need a phone with a camera at all? I can very well paste my ugly visage on any background taken from a street-view somewhere around the world, "beautify" it with an AI filter and call it a selfie - without ever leaving my comfy chair...

2 months ago*
JJack
JJack

Well, good for him, if he can do all what he wants to do on the phone.
Kudos! Wish I could...

But, what the article doesn't say: IS HE USING a clip-on grip?

Namely, THAT's what I was talking about. If you need to lug a grip around, it might as well be a pocket cam. True, you can't edit photos and/or post them to Instagram on (most) cameras, if that's your thing.

It certainly isn't mine. Or of anyone I'd know (who'd still be serious enough about photography to carry extra photo gear for their ... huh ... phone).
I mean: yes I've seen people mount extra lenses and other stuff on their phones. What I never figured out was: WHY?

If you need any of that extra stuff, the major argument for a phone cam (But I don't have camera with me all the time! I do have a phone though), isn't relevant any more.

Speaking of which: there were times when I never left home without my pocket cam - even though I sometimes forgot to take my phone!

Hmm, maybe I really *do* need a new compact camera...

2 months ago*
red pencil

I mean: yes I've seen people mount extra lenses and other stuff on their phones. What I never figured out was: WHY?… no different to why others play around with cameras, they are having fun

2 months ago
Marty4650
Marty4650

How will Fjorden guarantee that this expensive add on device will be compatible with future iPhones? Are they partnering with Apple, or do they have some inside information about their future plans?

The iPhone has changed size, shape, thickness, and even connectivity ports many times in the past. How will they prevent Apple from changing them in the future?

2 months ago
Victor Henning from Fjorden
Victor Henning from Fjorden

Hi Marty,

Fjorden connects via Bluetooth, and the Grip is separate from our MagSafe cases - so we can ensure that when new iPhones are released, we can produce new matching cases that allow you to keep using the Grip.

Cheers,
Victor (Founder of Fjorden)

2 months ago
Cakewalker

It appears the grip is in two parts - one that's a case for the camera (which would change for different phones, although many iPhone cases are compatible with more than one model) and the other that is the functional part of the grip itself, which appears to clip into any of the cases. I imagine it's the latter bit that they can reasonably claim to be compatible with future phones. I don't know if the grip is capable of accepting firmware updates to deal with new versions of iOS but that would seem an obvious thing to do.

2 months ago
kevoname

Nothing last fjorever

2 months ago*
jhunna

Having a device survive new versions of the iphone is not the paradigm. When the phone changes you buy the new accessories. iphone users know this, and still continue to buy the iphone.

2 months ago
Dericali

the main image on this article is backfocused

2 months ago
Malling

If it cannot use apple’s algorithm and AI then it like everything else that have seen the day of light a completely useless gimmick, as it’s the software and software alone that make Smartphones work. Without the IQ takes a noticeable drop and really shows that the hardware part simply isn’t very staggering, it’s at least passable with the software the smartphone manufacturers provided

2 months ago
Skromny Tomasz
Skromny Tomasz

the text reads that this case doesn't change the form factor of an iPhone, really? Because it looks like it doubles the thickness with a bump that is also the main purpose of this thing, so what "form factor" are we talking about here?

I dislike such corporate nonsense talk as much as I dislike Kickstarter campaigns in general, and this hits a jackpot

2 months ago
NJOceanView

The big unanswered question for photographers using their cell phone for some of their photos (see how we dodged the burning issue of whether a cell phone is a "real" camera or users are "real" photographers?) is whether the Fjorden Camera App utilizes all of Apple's computational imaging wizardry. I rarely use third-party apps now because I need the stacked imaging that Apple provides, or Apple's computational Night Mode effects, or even its incredible auto HDR that keeps my sunrises from blowing out.

The Fjorden Camera App may use Apple's native stacking, Night Mode and HDR technologies, but it's not clear and it needs to be. Otherwise I have to assume it doesn't. And Apple's sensor without its computational work doing its magic in the background is in itself just not impressive enough.

2 months ago
NJOceanView

I wrote to the developer and got some helpful information:

All computational photography tools Apple is making available via APIs will be part of this - HDR/Deep Fusion, ProRAW, Portrait Mode, etc. There will be some potential enhancements as well, such as allowing you to choose the (simulated) aperture in portrait mode, and applying the look/optical characteristics of vintage lenses (similar to the FOCOS app).

There is no developer access to Apple’s “Night Mode” yet - so Fjorden will develop their own tools while hoping (as all camera apps do) that Apple will make their Night Mode available to developers so this becomes unnecessary. Meanwhile the Fjorden Grip is compatible with ProCamera which has their own Night Mode, and the Fjorden Grip will also be able to trigger the shutter button of the Apple stock camera app.

This puts my mind at ease and Fjorden should incorporate this into their main messaging.

2 months ago
Luke Barker

That's really cool that Apple are making many of their computational photography features available to developers. I've stuck with a Samsung Note phone for years because I like the S Pen and the customisability of Android, as well as it being tightly integrated with other Samsung devices/services (they are probably second only to Apple in this regard).

Samsung are doing really well with advancing smartphone hardware but I think Apple is doing better with the software. Being able to choose a simulated aperture in portrait mode rather than just a 'blur level', having HDR available in third party apps, ProRAW to take advantage of the computational tech with RAW files - all these features make the iPhone seem very appealing as a smartphone that photographers will enjoy using when they don't have their actual camera with them. I also like the look of the MagSafe feature so magnetic attachment is standardised and iPhones seem to get more useful accesories like this grip.

2 months ago*
snapa
snapa

My Pixel 4a5G has more than enough controls on it than I need to take GREAT pictures.

So, I don't need any third party external accessory to do anything I can't already do without it. It looks like a complete waste of money, and includes additional weight, expense, and bulk that is not needed or want.

2 months ago*
McArchive

If throw pennies in the fountain, or ocean even, will I still get one?

2 months ago
FrankS009
FrankS009

I use my phone as a phone as antiquated as that might be. Never use the camera capacity, but might with a device like this.
F.

2 months ago
MaxiMax

A flat touchscreen smartphone has never been anatomically correct to hold, and is actually uncomfortable to hold. No wonder that screen repairers have their hands busy. It is bad enough to hold a smartphone, but even worse to operate them as cameras or video cameras. To me, these functions are just for emergency use. Nothing beats a proper camera with a proper grip, with physical dials and buttons.

2 months ago*
icexe

I like the idea. It's clean and compact, the phone still seems pocketable. I like the fact that you can operate the controls while holding the camera horizontally with just one hand. I and not a fan of Kickstarter though. I wish them the best, and if it does become commercially available, I would give it a look.

2 months ago
John Bean (UK)

"I like the fact that you can operate the controls while holding the camera horizontally with just one hand."

This sort of statement always puzzles me. Why do you want to?

2 months ago
icexe

@John Bean: Quite often I need one hand to hold the phone and the other to press a button or make adjustments in the menu. This is fine when I'm holding the camera vertically as I can get a much better grip with one hand in that orientation. But when holding the phone horizontally, the phone is less balanced, and the controls are farther apart, so I often find myself using both hands to hold the phone while trying to stretch my fingers over to reach a button or control. It's pretty awkward for me since I have smaller hands.

2 months ago
John Bean (UK)

Ah, you're talking about the ergonomic nightmare of using a phone as a camera rather than using an actual camera. I'm with you on that one :-)

2 months ago
yodog
yodog

As the muppet Swedish chef would say..."Fjordie Borgie".

2 months ago
wagabond

Domnívám se, že ten kdo fotí seriózně, ani nepomyslí na to, že by pro focení vzal do ruky něco takového, jako je mobil...

2 months ago*
lightwriter

I'm sure I've seen this concept multiple times in Kickstarter...

2 months ago
Ziginox

Yeah, I was going to say, the only thing new about this one is magsafe. I swear I've seen at least five other versions of this before.

2 months ago
Victor Henning from Fjorden
Victor Henning from Fjorden

Hi both - you’re right, there were similar concepts (like the Moment cases, the Pictar Pro, Shiftcam, ShutterGrip etc), and I’ve backed many of them! The reason I started Fjorden was that they all fell short for me in 1-2 ways:

- either they were too bulky and not pocketable, so I had to carry them separately (in which case I might as well bring my Lumix LX100 or Fujifilm X100T)
- or they were smartphone cases with only a shutter button, so they were lacking the additional controls I wanted and became obsolete when I upgraded my phone.

That’s where Fjorden is different: It’s pocketable, it has multiple customisable controls, and it’s separate from the case, meaning I can continue to use it when I upgrade my phone. 🙂

Cheers,
Victor

2 months ago*
Hussar43

I like the sound of it. Good luck. I will certainly look at something like this when my Ricoh dies. I just want to have manual controls of exposure and aperture size and auto iso and to be able to shoot raw, then I’m happy. Oh and a good lens. Don’t need apples other bells and whistles.

2 months ago
Ziginox

You won't get variable aperture on many phones...

2 months ago
sphexx

One feature that is different from all the other add-ones is what they call “selfie mode” where the device is rotated to operate the phone vertically. I would potentially find this useful for 1:1 format (non-selfie :)) photos and video. Too expensive just for that though.

2 months ago
Fotoni

When you refuse to use a stand-alone camera just because.

There has to be a some kind of connection between Transformers popularity and phone camera addons. That feeling when your phone looks like a strong camera because of those attachments, but actually it is just a toy.

2 months ago
Victor Henning from Fjorden
Victor Henning from Fjorden

Hi everyone - it's Victor, the founder of Fjorden here!

I really appreciate the passionate discussion and all the feedback (both positive and negative). Just wanted to chime in with a few thoughts!

Our goal is to make the iPhone in your pocket a better camera with faster controls, not replace your real camera. Of course, "better" is highly subjective - for me, I missed the tactility and immediate adjustments that are possible with hardware controls. I still love and use my Canon RP, Lumix GX9, and Lumix LX100! But I don't always have those on me, whereas my iPhone is always in my pocket.

Re: longevity and firmware upgrades - yes, buying a new product can be a gamble (but then again, it happens to established camera brands, too: Olympus was just sold off to a hedge fund!). For what it's worth, I was lucky enough to have built a successful startup before, so I've been investing my own money. Photography is my passion, and I'm in it for the long haul.

(Continued below...)

2 months ago*
Victor Henning from Fjorden
Victor Henning from Fjorden

Re: the prices of Fjorden - the Kickstarter Early Bird starts at €119 / $139. Yes, it's not cheap and not for everyone, but we're also trying to build a premium-quality product (with two years of warranty and a 30-day money back guarantee) with top components (e.g. a Panasonic-made shutter button switch), while ensuring that we pay fair wages and do it in an environmentally-friendly manner. These things are very important to me.

Thanks to everyone who has already backed us on Kickstarter, we really appreciate the support!

Happy to answer questions :-)

Cheers from Oslo,
Victor

2 months ago*
thedimka
thedimka

is there a tripod mount option in the works?
it looks like the Fjorden is thick enough for that.

2 months ago
John Bean (UK)

"But I don't always have those [cameras] on me, whereas my iPhone is always in my pocket."

But surely the reason your camera is not always in your pocket is because it's something else to remember to carry along with your phone, so why should your grip be any different?

Of course you may choose to leave it on the phone all the time but I would find that very annoying when using the phone for its primary purpose.

2 months ago
Victor Henning from Fjorden
Victor Henning from Fjorden

@thedimka: We debated including a tripod screw, but indeed prioritised keeping the design as slim and pocketable as possible. But our MagSafe cases work well with MagSafe tripod adapters, like the one by Moment!

@John Bean: This is a matter of personal preference, of course, but I am indeed keeping the Fjorden Grip on my iPhone all the time! It’s my primary photo taking device, and whenever I’m out walking the dog through our neighbourhood or just walking through Oslo, I spot things I want to capture. I also find the Grip very useful for holding the phone while texting/browsing (similar to how people use the PopSocket), and I use the Kickstand feature when the phone is on my desk. When I’m going on a trip or hike, I usually bring my camera backpack with my Canon EOS RP as well!

2 months ago
Gabor Ruppert

Not that Nokia had this years ago for the 1020, just the price was sane, it was an official accessory and had a built-in battery. I think we passed our peak already...
https://www.amazon.com/Nokia-PD-95G-BLACK-Camera-Battery/dp/B00DY7VARS

2 months ago
EcoVictor

Yes... The 1020 camera grip also had a tripod mounting thread... Not to mention that the phone itself had a proper xenon flash

2 months ago*
Claudio Galli

I have bought this device a couple of years ago and I am satisfied
https://www.pictarworld.com/products/pictar-pro-grip

2 months ago
Roland Karlsson

The pictar looks huge. Why not a compact camera instead?

2 months ago
Claudio Galli

Just to add another "accessory" to my array of cameras, lenses, etc. !!! 😄😄😄

2 months ago
Tungsten Nordstein
Tungsten Nordstein

>Fjorden grip for iPhone adds physical camera controls to your smartphone

'Physical' as opposed to what? 'Mental'?

Touch-screens are still physical

2 months ago
Do_Ki

Tactile would've been the better description, i agree

2 months ago
Roland Karlsson

Maybe, but remember they are Norwegian. At least in Swedish it is called "fysiska". I assume it is called something similar in Norwegian.

I may be affected by my language, but I would not call touch-screen buttons physical. The touch screen is definitely physical. But the actual buttons?

Anyone native English speaking that can shed some light on this?

2 months ago
vadims

@Tungsten Nordstein

> 'Physical' as opposed to what? 'Mental'?

'Virtual'.

@Roland Karlsson

> Anyone native English speaking that can shed some light on this?

One doesn't have to be a native English speaker... There are no nuances here.

"Physical controls" (a.k.a. hardware controls) are real buttons and dials that are found on camera bodies. "Virtual controls" (buttons, checkboxes, etc.) are what smartphones and other such devices have on their touch screens. These terms are very well-established.

2 months ago*
Roland Karlsson

Exactly. That was what I thought.

2 months ago
John Bean (UK)

From a native English speeker: what vadims wrote :-)

2 months ago
Roland Karlsson

* Real buttons vs virtual buttons.
* Physical buttons vs virtual buttons.

Note that virtual buttons "may" have tactile feel. I have a touch pad with tactile feel when you "click". But, that tactile feel is totally fake. It is some piezo electric vibration added when the touch pad feels an expanding or stronger contact, thus detects a "click".

2 months ago
vadims

@John Bean (UK)

> From a native English speeker

I once flew to the UK (Heathrow) circa 2001, got to bus station, bought a ticket, but couldn't for the life of me find the bus (turned out it was very late; I ended up getting the bus that was supposed to depart almost an hour ago; but that's not the point...)

When I was searching for the bus, I got to a group of locals, so I asked "Could you please tell me what platform this bus departs from?", and handed my ticket to a guy. He studied the ticket for good 5..10 seconds, and then, with utter bewilderment on his face, handed it back to me with "But it's not a bus, it's a ticket!" After I laughed, he pointed at a platform.

You guys never miss an opportunity :-)

2 months ago
fluppeteer

Why Kickstarter something like this? Googling "iPhone camera case" shows a wide range of commercial options at a fraction of the price, some of which have previously been covered by DPReview. I'm not sure how many have a custom app, but I'm generally not keen on letting hardware manufacturers at my software (beyond drivers) - few do two specialties well, and I'm sure Apple are spending more on their camera interface than this project will.

2 months ago
Roland Karlsson

Yepp, this is very common. Kick starters that do something that exists.

2 months ago
Franz Weber
Franz Weber

Deija Vu

2 months ago
TheLinguist

$190? GTFO

2 months ago
Akpinxit

lets wait for neck strap mount option

2 months ago
Tom_A

On a recent staycation I decided to leave my “proper” camera at home. We had been there twice before and now I just used the phone for quick family snapshots. In this context this gadget would have been welcome but future compatibility is a big if. And it is expensive for what it is, i would pay maximum $50 for it and even them would hesitate long.

2 months ago
Craig from Nevada
Craig from Nevada

Sorry, not even the model in the pictures looks happy with this product.

2 months ago
Mister J

Then again, she's perhaps a Skandi actress earning a crust between takes.

2 months ago
SomeguyPNW

I'd be stuck debating at $30 - but at this price, I'll stick with the side buttons on my iPhone, thanks.

2 months ago
Tomasz_Wk

How do I rewind the film? (-;

2 months ago
donpjt

It is indeed quite expensive at full price. I can get the older DJI osmo pocket for that price.

2 months ago
Bob A L

Now if they can find a way to add some form of optical framing attachment that would make the whole thing usable outdoors in good light we would have something.

2 months ago
ZilverHaylide

Already exists. It's called a camera with viewfinder.

2 months ago
Mac McCreery
Mac McCreery

Deja Vu.

2 months ago
YuryVilin

Will wait for commercial availability. I already backed up a similar project and got me a nice piece of plastic junk after 6 months wait.

2 months ago*
CaPi

I read ‚kickstarter‘ and lost all interest.

2 months ago
fuego6
fuego6

Kickstarter is the modern day equiv of "give me money now and maybe I will provide you with a product later". My favorite Kickstarters are the Print and Play games... they create a game sheet that is barely a game, "charge" you $2 and you get the print the PDF file. They make $1000 of dollars for a game that typically would be given away for free on BGG.com. Amazing!!

2 months ago
TOMSDPR

I can hear SJ rotating.
Apple still manages to get smarter and to minimize their design and here comes the ultimate throwback.

2 months ago
Franz Weber
Franz Weber

Normally I tend to avoid Kickstarter products. But this piece of technology looks like it was designed with passion by someone who really is into photography. And it looks better than most of such products

2 months ago
Discombobulated

Then, it dies after few firmware updates

2 months ago
cosinaphile
cosinaphile

someone really into photography uses a camera ... and does not endeavor to turn a phone into one

umm also kickstarter ???

2 months ago
Kit Lens Avenger
Kit Lens Avenger

Anything to get rid of that gotdamm on-screen shutter button!

But instead of buying a worthy phone to use with it I'll just keep buying used camera gear.

2 months ago
DrewRick

Some Android phones allow using a volume button as camera shutter, which is in the expected place.

2 months ago
Tom_A

The volume button on iphone can be used for the shutter

2 months ago
Mariano Pacifico

A smartphone with a grip doesn't look smart at all ....

C'mon people ... Get a grip of yourselves

2 months ago*
Discombobulated

it really will break your pocket.

2 months ago
Strangefinder
Strangefinder

A welcome product. Personally, I’d like to see phones / pocket computers in ergonomic forms with physical instrumentation.

2 months ago
Haim Hadar

...Is that a Fjorden in your pocket??

2 months ago
Discombobulated

what the Fjord are you talking about?

2 months ago
PaloAltoMark
PaloAltoMark

At some point in the future, I may buy a grip like this..... but not until cell phones have a way to truly adjust the aperture. Until then, my iPhone is merely a convenient way to take a snapshot and not a replacement for a pocket camera, let alone my mirrorless ILC. I'm sure that day will come. The image quality coming out of today's cameras is really quite good.

2 months ago
red pencil

There is no need to adjust aperture on a smartphone as the sensor is so small that virtually everything is is focus

2 months ago
tkbslc

That's changing. Samsung S21 has a 1/1.33" sensor for example.

2 months ago*
Nikoolix

Red pencil you haven't tried a proper phone camera for the past 5 years or you've willingly avoided actually looking at the photos. Phones nowadays have large enough sensors that you notice DOF falloff even behind subjects at 1m distance.

2 months ago
red pencil

Not on the iphone 12

2 months ago
tkbslc

TBH I'm not sure many phones even have an adjustable aperture at all, even the ones with larger sensors. So it's probably a moot point. But it definitely matters where you focus, even on smaller sensors. Everything is not always in focus.

Honestly a nearly 1" sensor with an f1.8 lens that can't be stopped down on the S21 Ultra sounds like it could be rough in some situations. That's only f6.5 FF equivalent. Which is definitely not always quite enough DOF. Might end up with better landscape or architecture shots with a smaller sensor in that situation.

2 months ago*
Greg Ohio

119EUR? You can get a 3-axis gimbal for that.

2 months ago
tkbslc

Why would I need a gimbal for photography?

2 months ago
Greg OH

You don't. But, a gimbal has everything this has (grip, remote, etc.) and a whole lot more. It makes it obvious that this is severely overpriced.

2 months ago
Battersea

Better than past designs... but....

2 months ago
phouphou

finally the phone is bigger than my GRii, now theres no reason to ever photograph with the phone again!

2 months ago
Krummj

Seems like they won’t sell enough to pay for regular app development so this will die in a year or so. In general I like the idea.

2 months ago
zw1975

That is also one of my concerns.

Another concern is their computational photography technology.

A better situation may be they selling their technologies to Apple.

2 months ago
questetheincubator

given there looks to be no physical connection i guess itll use wifi, as someone that has used devices like the QX1, still uses the wireless controls on my gx85 and was on the feedback team for the Alice cam these sorts of devices never really work well. theyre slow and never really live up to the promise of the creator even when done by a big company like sony, heck even the Hasselblad moto mod with its psysical connection was terribly slow, its a shame given how big smart phone "photography" has gotten but trying to adapt something to work perfectly with a device that wasnt designed for it just doesn't seem to work yet

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