Adobe has started up a new video series on its Adobe Photoshop Lightroom YouTube channel called In a Lightroom Minute that condenses helpful Lightroom CC and Lightroom Mobile tips into tutorials that are roughly 60 seconds in length.
Reilly - I truly hope your are right, but Adobe is not known to have heart for its actual users. Once they are convinced the future and earning are better served with another approach - in this case a full cloud service - they are not the company that holds back.
Zee - probably because the LR editing engine needs ACR. Without this plugin to Photoshop LR Classic can not be updated. But that's not the point.
The point is that Adobe wants to get hold of your most valuable assets of you as a photographer - Your images and preferably you storing them on their cloud. This way they can even get a better grip on you as a customer and you become even more dependent upon them.
Don't think they will not do away with LR Classic. If they would be willing to hold on to LR on a PC they probably would have called it LR Desktop. The name 'Classic' already suggest it is an old fashioned way of doing your work. The 'Cloud' is Adobe's future.
I say wait until october to see what Adobe's plans will be.
Heart for their actual users? I kept getting emails every day from DXO to update to PL3 so I finally did. Two weeks later the BF sales came out and they told me too bad. I have other examples and I don't recall Adobe ever doing anything to me. In fact at one time I would a least get ACR updates for a new camera unlike others forcing you to upgrade if you don't get the fall upgrade.
How is Adobe holding my assets? I have no flies in the cloud. Even if I did what could they do. That is my stuff. Even if I just adjust the exposure that is my art/vision and my intellectual property. If PETA can sue and win a monkeys rights to a selfie it took what would millions do if that happens. How are they going to handle users with 20TB worth of files? I have read many times about how Adobe will hold you ransom. Like to see them try.
The cloud is not Adobe's future. That future is already here with many happy users. They are well ahead of everyone else.
@Zeee that's your fault not theirs. Almost every business runs Black Friday sales and you could easily do a search and see they do it every year.
All Adobe's modern applications (e.g. written in modern code, not legacy apps like Lightroom Classic with a 10+ year old codebase) are cloud based. So you might be in denial but that's the future of Adobe software.
Also: why do I get like 20 trackers, font software, a social network and tons of other crapware installed on my computer just because I want to edit my images in 1 application? Adobe is a terrible company.... massive profits, all their development and support outsourced to India, and since they went on the subscription gravy train they have no incentive to innovate fast.
Lightroom still getting updates has a name in business... it is called a "Cash Cow". Keep milking it until you throw it away in the trash. That's what they're doing... it has already been declared death internally for sure.
No that is DXO's fault for sending me emails every day and then not honouring the sale which was within a few weeks. Everything I purchase has a sale price guarantee. If it goes on sale within 30 days then the vender will cover it.
Believe I counted 9 videos in this new set, and with the heavy twist toward LR CC and LR Mobile. Imagine that a couple of things are happening here. First, there's not much to add to LR Classic because the Adobe has not done any improvements of any consequence in a long time, so there's not much to teach anyone. And second, Adobe may be subtly moving customer's focus to the cloud by the heavy emphasis on LR CC and LR Mobile. This would fit Adobe's long-term strategy of a cloud based software offering, and when they refer to it as the "future," they leave very little doubt where customers are being marched to, albeit in a very sophisticated, soothing way. This may be a good thing in the end, but we better be aware that that's where the business is going. The Microsoft transition model to an Internet services-based company is very much in the radar of companies like Adobe. And yes, we will adapt once again just as we have done in the past.
Unless you have been living under a rock couple of last years you might be aware that camera sales are down. People are happy to take pictures with their phones. So the potential new user base for Classic LR is not growing but for LR Mobile it is.
This development serves the investors Only, but not the consumer.
I don’t see the bright future in front of me. The picture I see is that one where our computers become terminals only and we need to buy for every service that is being offered.
Owning software in that scenario will be one of the past.
There have been improvements, it is called milking the cash cow. And they also have to do because their competition is eating them alive (see how Capture One's growth is accelerating rapidly since Lightroom started its demise).
Capture One is no cut loose from Phase One and they have a new website, new presentation ,new logo and promise faster and more frequent updates. And they're clearly going after the Lightroom customer in all their communication.
Same for Serif whose software suite can be obtained for $29/each since Covid-19 begun. That's a one-time $90 for a very capable image editing suite that rivals Photoshop, Illustrator and Indesign. Their iPad apps are even better than what Adobe offers.
I often search for help on the web, for cloudy Lightroom CC, and Google returns results for Lightroom Classic. I think this is because Adobe were really quite stupid in the naming of their cloudy product. The interesting thing about the videos currently available? What they don’t say.
Edit: That said, I continue to like the concept of the product.
I don’t understand all the anti Adobe stuff. I took out my first subscription with them about a month ago having previously purchased Affinity Photo and tried various other freebie software. There is no comparison to Lightroom with any other photo software, it is easy to use and the workflow is far superior. Learning Photoshop is taking some doing because of its enormous capabilities, but I have plenty of free time. Adobe email regular learning videos, all of which have been easy to follow and useful. I am a very happy subscriber for what is really a coffee a month. No contest in my eyes.
Lightroom Classic is buggy and performance trails behind competition. Adobe Photoshop is bloated Adobe Premiere has seen an exodus to DaVinci Resolve, a company that does leverage a GPU fully
And the list of examples goes on and on.
Their software is overpriced, lags performance, has inconsistent design language and they install what equals to malware on your computer, whether you want it or not.
I can do without them.
Serif software suite: $29/piece DaVinci Resolve: free Capture One: one time $150 fee if you don't change camera often or DxO PhotoLab (best in class raw conversion and noise reduction).
And for average joe... they can do fine with Google Photos or Apple Photos, so Adobe will never compete in that market.
"In a Lightroom minute" ... provided you are of sufficient age and set up a subscription plan first ...
Today Adobe brought me further away from it's photo software than ever before: making the best out of the current lockdown situation, an art teacher started a project about digital image processing. He proposed to use GIMP or PIXLR. Could I get a better task for homeschooling?
As GIMP doesn't really work on iPad, I thought that "the original" Photoshop might be a good option. 30 days trial or alternatively an Express version sound promising. But: only with online subscription and Adobe doesn't allow my kid to have one ...
Just for comparison: Apple offers Family Sharing, which is great. Microsoft grants Office365 accounts for kids at schools, which appears clever. And Adobe?
Sure. Don't know though if Adobe's conditions allow the use of a subscription by other persons. Alternatively my kid could have entered a wrong birthdate -- many do this. But I hesitate proposing her to lie -- and she doesn't like this either. I am really impressed by Apple Family Sharing allowing my kid to be honest and giving me control over installed Apps, Screen Time and the like.
A company enforcing subscriptions should have kids in mind as well, at least starting from secondary school.
The subscription is for 2 devices registered at the same time, but they can't be editing at the same time. I have my desktop registered and my daughter's laptop - as long as we don't try to edit at the same time it's fine. Comes in handy that I am a morning person and she is a late night person :-)
I don't like adobe subscription system, hate it, but having the opportunity to sync my LR with 4 different dispositives is a win-win, the day that any of the other soft manages to do it will be the day that adobe loose their client base.
For now, is no direct competitor and that's a shame.
You can say that the other apps are better, but the workflow is slower, less time moving pics or syncing between dispositives is more time that you can use to be productive.
I hope capture one can integrate some kind of workflow as the one available with Lightroom today. Being out and about, importing my photos direct to my iPad that syncs with my desktop is amazing. Being tied to Adobe kinda sucks, so I'm definitely looking for alternatives that are as seamless as this.
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