Richard Butler

Richard Butler

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Lives in United Kingdom Seattle, United Kingdom
Joined on Nov 7, 2007

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On article Upwardly mobile: Sony a6300 Review (2157 comments in total)
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stevevelvia50: In the dynamic range image at +3 and higher, there is a disturbing rainbow like artifact appearing along the left side of the red handled brush in the shadow next to the white highlight on paint plate, right bottom of studio comparison in the a6300 samples. Just scroll along the brush handle and you will see it. Completely clean with the d7200 at all push levels.

Ah, I'd not spotted that.

That's the impact of [Sony's lossy Raw compression](http://www.dpreview.com/articles/2834066212/). I'll amend the text to highlight it.

Link | Posted on Apr 6, 2016 at 22:32 UTC
On article Upwardly mobile: Sony a6300 Review (2157 comments in total)
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Stoneh Ray: I don't understand why they didn't compare it to X-pro 2 more rather than keep going on about D7200 and Canon 80D. They are DSLRs. More comparison should have been made with the other mirrorless apsc cameras especially the current leader X-PRO2

The X-Pro2 has a list price of $1699 and aims (pretty successfully) at a very specific niche.

Particularly when it comes to autofocus, comparing this only to other mirrorless cameras would be crazy. This is trying to be a mid-market do-everything machine, so I compared it primarily with those.

We're getting to the point where some mirrorless cameras can do the things that used to be thought of as the preserve of DSLRs (C-AF being the main one), and some DSLRs are trying to match capabilities we've traditionally associated with mirrorless (the EOS 80D's touchscreen video controls).

Since it seems reasonable that many customers might be trying to choose between some mirrorless models and some DSLRs, we consider ILCs to be a single category.

Link | Posted on Apr 6, 2016 at 22:26 UTC
On article Upwardly mobile: Sony a6300 Review (2157 comments in total)
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razorfish: We all know dpreview loves Sony, so of course this got the gold award. As a standalone camera body, it most likely deserves it though, but I never understood how the surrounding ecosystem, the lenses and other accessories, can be overlooked when reviewing a camera. After all, it matters a lot for all practical purposes, and Sony's neglect of their APS-C ecosystem is in my opinion appalling. Sony are clearly focusing on "full frame" lenses, but I refuse to be part of an "upgrade path", paying for huge, expensive lenses made for a larger sensor. It seems like Sony are looking to Canon and Nikon who have had success with people buying their APS-C cameras as an "upgrade path" with "full frame" lenses, but I never liked the way Canon and Nikon treated their APS-C customers as second rate, and I don't like it when Sony copies that strategy.

The differences in JPEG and Raw scoring between the two cameras are incredibly subtle.

The X-Pro2 scores higher for colour, the Sony scores a bit higher for its sophisticated sharpening, noise reduction and how effective the DRO mode is.

Arguably the scoring algorithm should give a bit more weight to the importance of colour rendition, since I agree that the Fujifilm JPEGs are 'better' if you have to reduce all the considerations down to a single factor. This isn't something I can just change, I'm afraid and it may forever have to be a level of subtlety better revealed in the review and conclusion text than in a since aspect of the scoring.

Link | Posted on Apr 6, 2016 at 22:09 UTC
On article Upwardly mobile: Sony a6300 Review (2157 comments in total)
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MoonUnit: Could you clarify something for me? When you say "Drops to 12-bit mode in various modes inc. continuous shooting", does that mean *all* shooting in AF-C mode is 12-bit? Or does that just mean when you're shooting a burst of images it drops to 12-bit?

It's in continuous shooting (the drive mode), not continuous AF.

So yes, bursts of images.

Link | Posted on Apr 6, 2016 at 21:54 UTC
On article Upwardly mobile: Sony a6300 Review (2157 comments in total)
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markie_jan61: USB charging is a deal-breaker, regardless of a camera's capabililties.

Don't know why Sony continues to travel down that road.
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It was very useful to me when I was shooting the 4K video - I forgot to bring one of the batteries I'd charged-up and was able to top-up the battery while driving to and from the Vashon Island ferry.

However, it's disappointing that they couldn't throw in an external charger on a camera costing $1000.

That's why we list USB charging as a pro but the lack of charger as a con.

Link | Posted on Apr 6, 2016 at 21:31 UTC
On article Upwardly mobile: Sony a6300 Review (2157 comments in total)
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razorfish: We all know dpreview loves Sony, so of course this got the gold award. As a standalone camera body, it most likely deserves it though, but I never understood how the surrounding ecosystem, the lenses and other accessories, can be overlooked when reviewing a camera. After all, it matters a lot for all practical purposes, and Sony's neglect of their APS-C ecosystem is in my opinion appalling. Sony are clearly focusing on "full frame" lenses, but I refuse to be part of an "upgrade path", paying for huge, expensive lenses made for a larger sensor. It seems like Sony are looking to Canon and Nikon who have had success with people buying their APS-C cameras as an "upgrade path" with "full frame" lenses, but I never liked the way Canon and Nikon treated their APS-C customers as second rate, and I don't like it when Sony copies that strategy.

The JPEG score for color and white balance were a little lower than its competitors but the clever sharpening and noise reduction helped compensate for that.

Most of those other criticisms were addressed in the scoring.

However I do not believe that we are harsher or more lenient on a brand basis. We're all aware of the degree to which these perceptions are held by some of our readers so try particularly hard to make sure our decisions aren't coloured by anything beyond the specific camera itself.

Link | Posted on Apr 6, 2016 at 20:48 UTC
On article Upwardly mobile: Sony a6300 Review (2157 comments in total)
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GabrielZ: Well the only things that rate better on the much more expensive X-Pro2 are build quality and ergonomics/menus, on RAW and JPEG image quality (the most important categories) the Sony is also slightly better than the Fuji while in all the other categories the Sony kills the X-Pro2 to death! A little annoying that, as I'm a Fuji fan and user...their APS-C glass is still better than Sony's APS-C glass though...a little consolation there I suppose.

The ergonomics and JPEG colour of the Fujifilm would be enough to keep it in the running for me, personally (in spite of the AF and video benefits of the Sony). The X-Pro2 does look pricey by comparison, though.

Link | Posted on Apr 6, 2016 at 20:33 UTC
On article Upwardly mobile: Sony a6300 Review (2157 comments in total)
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razorfish: We all know dpreview loves Sony, so of course this got the gold award. As a standalone camera body, it most likely deserves it though, but I never understood how the surrounding ecosystem, the lenses and other accessories, can be overlooked when reviewing a camera. After all, it matters a lot for all practical purposes, and Sony's neglect of their APS-C ecosystem is in my opinion appalling. Sony are clearly focusing on "full frame" lenses, but I refuse to be part of an "upgrade path", paying for huge, expensive lenses made for a larger sensor. It seems like Sony are looking to Canon and Nikon who have had success with people buying their APS-C cameras as an "upgrade path" with "full frame" lenses, but I never liked the way Canon and Nikon treated their APS-C customers as second rate, and I don't like it when Sony copies that strategy.

The review explicitly mentions lens availability on the first page and in the conclusion. And ends with the sentence 'If the lenses you want are available...' I don't see how that's counts as 'overlooking' it.

Given I've written an article expressly questioning the idea that being forced into buying full frame lenses is a cynical way to make people feel they have already started on their way to full frame ownership, I too would be disappointed if Sony goes down that route.

DPReview reviews cameras, not brands. We don't 'love Sony' - it just so happens that their last few cameras have been really impressive. We've also been consistent in our criticism of their UI and UX, to the point where we spent a long time discussing whether to give the a6300 a Gold or Silver.

Link | Posted on Apr 6, 2016 at 20:16 UTC
On article Upwardly mobile: Sony a6300 Review (2157 comments in total)
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curiosifly: Hi Richard Thanks for the report. Very helpful. Could you please explain a bit more about AF performance while using Canon lens? If both set to 3 fps, how does the AFC performance compare between using a native sony lens and a canon lens? Can you think about a camera of which the AFC performance is similar to a6300 paired with a canon lens? Sorry, but at the moment seems that adapted lens is the only option for me if I were going to invest on this camera.

The native lens will allow you to use all the camera's AF modes, such as the 'Lock-On' tracking modes and Eye-AF, which means it'll be a lot more flexible than using the adapted lens.

The AF-C with the Canon 70-200 was pretty good, with everything in focus until the subject got very close to the camera, but knowing that a native lens would allow me to shoot at 8 or 11 fps with greater flexibility means I'd only use adapted lenses as a stopgap, personally.

Link | Posted on Apr 6, 2016 at 20:05 UTC
On article Upwardly mobile: Sony a6300 Review (2157 comments in total)
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TJGKG: I have a question about lenses for this camera. Since I basically use only 35mm lenses for the type of shots I take, which would be better: the Zeiss T* FE 35mm f/2.8 which is a full frame lens or the Sony 35mm f/1.8 OSS Alpha E-mount Prime Lens which is an APS-C lens? Even though the Zeiss is a FF lens, would I still get 35mm or would it be cropped to 50mm thus losing the wider angle. If I use the Sony 1.8, would I get the 35mm angle? I'm trying for the best quality but I really need the wide angle. Thanks.

If you mount a 35mm lens on this camera you won't get any wide angle, you'll get a ~52.5mm equivalent field-of-view (a fraction longer than the perfect normal of 43mm equiv).

The FE 35mm F2.8 and E 35mm F1.8 OSS will be the same in that regard.

If you want a 35mm *equivalent* field of view on this camera, you'll need something like the Sony 24mm F18 ZA.

Link | Posted on Apr 6, 2016 at 19:43 UTC
On article Upwardly mobile: Sony a6300 Review (2157 comments in total)
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Mark Mack: A6000 good camera for price A6300 not a good camera for price.

I tried to address this in the conclusion. Having reviewed both, I'd draw the opposite conclusion.

The a6300 competes effectively with its similarly-priced peers (suggesting it is a good camera for the price), and offers enough improvements and upgrades that I'd be disappointed to have to go back to an a6000.

Link | Posted on Apr 6, 2016 at 19:40 UTC
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Roshni: I see the camera scores 85% yet it apparently remains an ergonomic nightmare that only Sony seems to get away with.

That's nuts. Sorry, DPReview, but scores of cameras out-handle the Sony so it shouldn't be getting a rating this high. Methinks it stinks of pixel peeping.

In gymnastics if you fall off the apparatus you can't score a 10. Not including a touch screen for focus selection should automatically have it consigned to a max of 80%.

What's the point of fast operation if it takes 10 seconds to change key settings?

K E Hoffman - Our comments don't come from a lack of familiarity. The a6300 *requires* use of the Fn menu more than most of its peers (though, in fairness, this is partly a consequence of how much it tries to do).

However, the camera lacks the 'Focus Settings' option for the centre button - something that the a7R II includes. This makes the operation of the camera seem fiddly not just in comparison with other brands but also compared with other cameras in Sony's lineup.

It's not so bad that it prevented us giving the camera a Gold award but it's significant enough that we couldn't just gloss over it and pretend everything is fine.

Link | Posted on Apr 6, 2016 at 19:38 UTC
On article Upwardly mobile: Sony a6300 Review (2157 comments in total)
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j_h_w: "I much prefer tilting LCD's to fully articulating ones. (...) tilting LCD's are far more unobtrusive as they don't flip out to the side, doubling the camera width".
Richard Butler, Dan Bracaglia: you are wrong.
The Sony A99 and A77 show that a fully articulating LCD can flip vertically instead to the side, allowing much more options: inspection from front, back, (almost) top, and from the sides.

You can take that up with Dan, since it's his name at the top of that page and is written in the first person.

I'd rather have an articulated screen, myself, both for video and portrait orientation shooting.

Link | Posted on Apr 6, 2016 at 19:21 UTC
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FantasticMrFox: "In standard shutter mode, the camera is essentially ISO invariant, suggesting it's adding very little noise to its images."

Are we looking at the same images? The ISO 100 + 5 stops image clearly shows more noise than the ISO 3200 image, especially in dark areas.

That's why it says "essentially" and "adding very little noise," rather than "is" and "adding virtually no noise."

I've corrected the wording to make this clearer, though.

Link | Posted on Apr 6, 2016 at 19:11 UTC
On article Upwardly mobile: Sony a6300 Review (2157 comments in total)
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Roshni: I see the camera scores 85% yet it apparently remains an ergonomic nightmare that only Sony seems to get away with.

That's nuts. Sorry, DPReview, but scores of cameras out-handle the Sony so it shouldn't be getting a rating this high. Methinks it stinks of pixel peeping.

In gymnastics if you fall off the apparatus you can't score a 10. Not including a touch screen for focus selection should automatically have it consigned to a max of 80%.

What's the point of fast operation if it takes 10 seconds to change key settings?

Look at the scoring chart at the end and you'll see the a6300 scores quite poorly for ergonomics and handling. However, it scores to well in the rest of the tests that it gets 85% *despite* this.

If the handling were better it would score higher.

Link | Posted on Apr 6, 2016 at 19:03 UTC
On article Look Sharp: Panasonic Lumix DMC-GX85/GX80 video preview (128 comments in total)
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MikeF4Black: Joe Jackson turns in his grave.

While Roxette get all excited that someone's remembered them.

Link | Posted on Apr 5, 2016 at 20:40 UTC
On article Look Sharp: Panasonic Lumix DMC-GX85/GX80 video preview (128 comments in total)
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MrTaikitso: Do you have to have a beard to work at DPreview? ;)

Market calls for a hispstermatic custom themed camera for the cereal cafe crowd. Pentax? Your move guys!

Barman, mine's a manly silver GX8, shaven but not 5 axis stirred.

I'll show myself out...

Wait, Jeff, when did this new edict come into effect?

Link | Posted on Apr 5, 2016 at 18:39 UTC
On article Look Sharp: Panasonic Lumix DMC-GX85/GX80 video preview (128 comments in total)
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Gadgety: So this really is the GX7 II?

[In Japan, yes.](https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ja&u=http://panasonic.jp/dc/g_series/gx7mk2/&usg=ALkJrhhk5r4-zJQWfBXxfTr9-9MtLtkq9w)

Link | Posted on Apr 5, 2016 at 18:38 UTC
On article Small but mighty: hands on with the Panasonic GX85/GX80 (309 comments in total)
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Ross the Fidller: Saying, "The Panasonic Lumix DMC-GX85 (known as the GX80 outside of North America)...." instead it could be said, "The Panasonic Lumix DMC-GX80 (known as the GX85 in North America)..." ;-)

Yes, that's true. However the camera I had in my hands was, strictly speaking, a GX85 so I wrote from that perspective.

Link | Posted on Apr 5, 2016 at 18:17 UTC
On article Small but mighty: hands on with the Panasonic GX85/GX80 (309 comments in total)
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Mateus1: No, it's not GX-7 successor which was the best Panasonic mirrorless with a few isuues. GX-8 size and handling is dissapointing and GX-80 is poorer. After GX-7 Panasonic really dissaponts me with new releases :(

The GX7 and GX85 use exactly the same battery.

Link | Posted on Apr 5, 2016 at 18:15 UTC
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