Barney Britton

Barney Britton

DPReview Administrator
Lives in United States Seattle, United States
Works as a Editor
Has a website at www.dpreview.com
Joined on Nov 2, 2009
About me:

I'm in charge of the editorial content of dpreview. I joined dpreview when it was based in London in November 2009, after several years as a print journalist in the UK specialist photographic press. I moved from London to Seattle, USA, a year later and I've been here ever since.

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On article Panasonic Lumix DC-G9 Review (1011 comments in total)
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FrequencyDancer: Personally I'm not too bothered whether it gets a gold rating or something else.

Cameras are incredibly personal and features that are important for one can be insignificant for others. That's something that only comes from personal experience and one of the great thing about DPR reviews is they are thorough enough for someone to dig into the details and figure out whether it is a good choice for any individual.

However, DPR do carry some industry weight, for example many retail outlets show the DPR rating on their product information cards that accompany the camera on display.

While the excuse that this camera is released later and therefore has to work harder for a gold award is easy to follow logic, in reality, as of today, there are many 'current' gold award cameras that I would happily pass over in favour of this silver award camera, so I don't feel DPR are actually achieving what they think they are trying to achieve with this rating system.

Bottom line: it's a great camera

1) Robemo - calm down. Our review scoring and award methodology has been largely unchanged for the better part of 20 years. It's evolved over that time, (fortunately the days of 'highly recommended - just' are behind us) but we're using basically the same logic now as we always have, and it's basically the same logic that the majority of other review sites/magazines use.

I say again - retailers are not provided with the awards logos. Manufacturers can request use of our awards, for promotional materials. Sometimes those materials are used as part of retail POS displays (etc.) but awards are never sent to retailers directly, either by DPReview, or by the manufacturers (this is something that we stipulate). Is that 'passing the buck'? Sure - OK. I guess?

Link | Posted on Jan 10, 2018 at 18:29 UTC
On article Panasonic Lumix DC-G9 Review (1011 comments in total)
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FrequencyDancer: Personally I'm not too bothered whether it gets a gold rating or something else.

Cameras are incredibly personal and features that are important for one can be insignificant for others. That's something that only comes from personal experience and one of the great thing about DPR reviews is they are thorough enough for someone to dig into the details and figure out whether it is a good choice for any individual.

However, DPR do carry some industry weight, for example many retail outlets show the DPR rating on their product information cards that accompany the camera on display.

While the excuse that this camera is released later and therefore has to work harder for a gold award is easy to follow logic, in reality, as of today, there are many 'current' gold award cameras that I would happily pass over in favour of this silver award camera, so I don't feel DPR are actually achieving what they think they are trying to achieve with this rating system.

Bottom line: it's a great camera

"it becomes clear that the use of these ratings/Awards by retail outlets is simply misleading."

That's far from clear, actually. We don't sell our awards graphics to anyone, and we only supply them to the device manufacturer. If a manufacturer asks to use them for their promotional purposes, that's up to them. A retailer can only use the graphics as part of promotional materials supplied by the manufacturer.

Link | Posted on Jan 9, 2018 at 23:13 UTC
On article Panasonic Lumix DC-G9 Review (1011 comments in total)
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anticipation_of: It seems like all else being equal, if one were buying a high end MFT camera today, the Panasonic—not the Olympus—would probably be the one to get. If nothing else it’s a few hundred dollars cheaper for similar stills performance, and it’s the better camera for video. So it doesn’t make sense to me that the Olympus has a gold award and the Panasonic a silver; if I were new to the site and trying to decide between the two cameras, I feel like that would be misleading.

Product reviews are primarily buying guides. The fact that the G9 came out later should not affect the decisions of someone who is buying a camera today. I think that giving the G9 a silver here makes the review less useful to people who are trying to research their next camera purchase.

"maybe you read the comment above that mentions that DPR Awards are used by retail outlets to recommend products. So now your subjective 'Award' is actualy misleading buyers. That can't be the objective, can it?"

Our awards are sometimes requested by manufacturers for promotional purposes, but they're not for sale. What a company does with the award graphics is up to them. I don't see how DPReview could be said to be 'misleading buyers' in that situation...?

Also - if I might inject a note of sanity/perspective here, the issue of recommendations being provided at the time a product is reviewed, and potentially going our of date as the product ages against its competition is virtually universal.

We address it by a) making it clear how we review things so there's no ambiguity for someone who cares to do a bit of reading and b) with our near-comprehensive range of buying guides, which provide 'real-time' recommendations, and are kept up to date throughout the year.

Link | Posted on Jan 9, 2018 at 21:36 UTC
On article Panasonic Lumix DC-G9 Review (1011 comments in total)
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anticipation_of: It seems like all else being equal, if one were buying a high end MFT camera today, the Panasonic—not the Olympus—would probably be the one to get. If nothing else it’s a few hundred dollars cheaper for similar stills performance, and it’s the better camera for video. So it doesn’t make sense to me that the Olympus has a gold award and the Panasonic a silver; if I were new to the site and trying to decide between the two cameras, I feel like that would be misleading.

Product reviews are primarily buying guides. The fact that the G9 came out later should not affect the decisions of someone who is buying a camera today. I think that giving the G9 a silver here makes the review less useful to people who are trying to research their next camera purchase.

Oh on the contrary - we plan on changing our scoring system to better reflect a camera's position in the market *right now*. But we're not there yet - it's a lot of work. In the meantime, I completely understand why it causes confusion to some casual site visitors. The best we can do at present is to clearly explain our methodology and engage with comments like yours when the question comes up.

Link | Posted on Jan 9, 2018 at 19:34 UTC
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JensR: Would have been nice to include the other weather-resistant FF option, the Pentax K-1, even if it is a 2016 camera, but I understand you could extend that to APS-C cameras and it's turtles all the way down...

More pertinently, it would also have been interesting to take a nominally unsealed camera to compare it and see how much better the Sony "seal" is than no seal.

But in any case, it seems to indicate that rubber/silicone sealing is vastly superior to the mechanical, interlocking panels of the Sony.

And yes, I am a Pentax owner, but I also own Sony.

"Pentax does not exist for dpr."

This video was made by Imaging Resource.

Nice try though!

Link | Posted on Jan 9, 2018 at 19:29 UTC
On article Panasonic Lumix DC-G9 Review (1011 comments in total)
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anticipation_of: It seems like all else being equal, if one were buying a high end MFT camera today, the Panasonic—not the Olympus—would probably be the one to get. If nothing else it’s a few hundred dollars cheaper for similar stills performance, and it’s the better camera for video. So it doesn’t make sense to me that the Olympus has a gold award and the Panasonic a silver; if I were new to the site and trying to decide between the two cameras, I feel like that would be misleading.

Product reviews are primarily buying guides. The fact that the G9 came out later should not affect the decisions of someone who is buying a camera today. I think that giving the G9 a silver here makes the review less useful to people who are trying to research their next camera purchase.

If you'd like to be able to answer the question 'which camera is best for [whatever budget/usecase]' I suggest you browse our selection of buying guides (link at the top of this page). We'll be updating the relevant guides to include our final findings about the G9 very soon.

Link | Posted on Jan 9, 2018 at 19:22 UTC
On article Panasonic Lumix DC-G9 Review (1011 comments in total)
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anticipation_of: It seems like all else being equal, if one were buying a high end MFT camera today, the Panasonic—not the Olympus—would probably be the one to get. If nothing else it’s a few hundred dollars cheaper for similar stills performance, and it’s the better camera for video. So it doesn’t make sense to me that the Olympus has a gold award and the Panasonic a silver; if I were new to the site and trying to decide between the two cameras, I feel like that would be misleading.

Product reviews are primarily buying guides. The fact that the G9 came out later should not affect the decisions of someone who is buying a camera today. I think that giving the G9 a silver here makes the review less useful to people who are trying to research their next camera purchase.

We understand that it can be confusing, but hopefully it gets easier to understand once you've read up on our scoring and awards methodology (there's a link in the conclusion page).

Basically, the award (silver, gold or none) is subjective, and decided on by the reviewer, in conversation with other writers on staff. Cameras which set a new standard, or achieve a certain level of technical sophistication *first*, and thereby set a bar in some way, tend to be awarded gold awards. So that's the Oly E-M1 Mark II, for instance. The G9 matches the E-M1 II in some areas, exceeds it in others, and doesn't quite measure up in still others. And it was released considerably later.

Hence - silver.

Link | Posted on Jan 9, 2018 at 18:43 UTC
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Manthony073: I read maybe about one comment from a woman here and the majority of the rest were from men getting defensive or underplaying what is a really huge problem that we are confronting. My point is that men we are entitled to our opinions but as photographers especially I would think this is an excellent opportunity for us to shut up and listen, women we are all ears.

Hear, hear.

Link | Posted on Jan 9, 2018 at 06:30 UTC
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maljo@inreach.com: That price is breathtaking!

It's basically the same as Canon's equivalent (and older) lens. Glass like this has always been out of reach to all but the richest amateurs and major agencies.

Link | Posted on Jan 9, 2018 at 04:26 UTC
On article A letter from the Publisher (331 comments in total)
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Mach Schnell: Is Phil Askey totally out of the picture now?

Chocolate bars were bigger, too!

Link | Posted on Jan 9, 2018 at 01:22 UTC
On article A letter from the Publisher (331 comments in total)
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love2travelfar: it is strange . Why would a "sponsor" want an article marked "sponsored" here?
EVERYBODY avoids those. It's almost anti-advertising.
Isn't enough to make good products everybody would push without being pushed?

Sponsored content has to be differentiated from normal editorial to satisfy certain FCC guidelines. Differentiating the two kinds of content is also a good idea from the perspective of maintaining the trust of our audience.

Link | Posted on Jan 9, 2018 at 01:20 UTC
On article A letter from the Publisher (331 comments in total)
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TN Args: Thanks for the message and introduction Scott. I am pleased to read that you will be re-introducing lens tests: I was just about to write a plea for that when I read your statement.

So now I will plead for you to conduct your lens tests on multiple copies of a lens. Ten is a good number to allow a usable average to emerge and the tester can make some initial comment on variability.

A single-sample lens test is the optical equivalent of the "blog review of a camera 5 minutes after it is announced" that you referred to. Doing multi-sample testing is a great way for DPR to distinguish itself from the numerous websites that publish lens tests that are a masquerade. Remember: readers (and buyers) use these tests to *compare* lenses that often show quite small differences, so the differences get exaggerated and lenses heavily criticised on differences that might very well be products of the deficiencies of the single-sample approach to lens tests.

"So now I will plead for you to conduct your lens tests on multiple copies of a lens. Ten is a good number to allow a usable average to emerge and the tester can make some initial comment on variability."

I'm afraid we don't have the time to do that in-house, but we are exploring ways of integrating some data from multiple samples.

Link | Posted on Jan 9, 2018 at 01:18 UTC
On article A letter from the Publisher (331 comments in total)
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dwill23: I barely come on here anymore as these kids out west who post photos and stories are so politically charged.

This was an escape for me (like right now, on my lunch break)...i don't need to see that crap on here. I hope it returns to it's roots. Camera only reporting, not sample pics of protests, anti police stories, etc.

Notwithstanding your highly simplistic and disingenuous characterisation, the content to which you refer makes up an absolutely tiny proportion of our annual output. I'm sorry we've (apparently) triggered you so horribly but I can assure you that the site's core mission is unchanged.

Link | Posted on Jan 9, 2018 at 01:12 UTC
On article A letter from the Publisher (331 comments in total)
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Feud: It's a wonderful site, but this is the first time I've been on in months. I stopped coming on quite a long time ago after it was taken over by a sizeable subset of measurebators arguing like Trump and Kim Jong-un about which lens resolves their test charts better or why Canon (or Nikon) users are going to Hell. I either go on Cameralabs or the Imagingresource now, I'm afraid. Great philosophy, great site. Good luck.

"a sizeable subset of measurebators arguing like Trump and Kim Jong-un about which lens resolves their test charts better or why Canon (or Nikon) users are going to Hell."

Hopefully you're not referring to any of our staff writers!

Link | Posted on Jan 9, 2018 at 01:10 UTC
On article Have Your Say 2017: the winners (202 comments in total)
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britepixels: It surprises me that no Canon product was in this list. This smacks of Bias. It makes me wonder if the information I get in Reviews is solid or biased.

The entrants in this poll were determined by a prior round of voting, by DPReview readers. So if there's any bias here, it's with you lot ;)

Link | Posted on Jan 8, 2018 at 18:16 UTC
On article Have Your Say 2017: the winners (202 comments in total)
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M Chambers: So the D850 only wins because votes were split between the A9 and A7RIII?

That's democracy!

Link | Posted on Jan 8, 2018 at 18:16 UTC
On article 2017 in review: a look back at October (15 comments in total)
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HB1969: I love that you sometimes get little gems when reading through these "year in review" articles. eg I didn't see Barney's throwback thursday the first time around.

What's most amusing is that in the "shop with Amazon" section, the PowerShot G5 is still listed "in stock" for $449.99. Great purchace from Barney, picking it up for 9 bucks :D

Yeah I got a deal!

Link | Posted on Dec 29, 2017 at 21:30 UTC
On article 2017 in review: a look back at September (10 comments in total)
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Nabilon: Who else scrolled down to the comments oonly to wonder if anybody is seriously reading all the 12 year in a review posts?

Where are you getting 50 from?

Link | Posted on Dec 29, 2017 at 20:56 UTC
On article 2017 in review: a look back at September (10 comments in total)
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Dante Birchen: How about a look forward to 2018. I am very bored with these rehashes.

Yes we're getting that, from your constant sarcastic comments. May I suggest that if you're so bored with them, you simply ignore them?

Link | Posted on Dec 29, 2017 at 20:56 UTC
On article 2017 in review: a look back at October (15 comments in total)
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technotic: Canon 28mm Shooting Experience link = 404 Page Not Found

Fixed!

Link | Posted on Dec 29, 2017 at 20:33 UTC
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