ether2

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I have a dream: I don't trust hard disks.
I still use floppy disks (5 1/4, 3 1/2 are not reliable).

I don't trust any of the above. I just remember everything - or at least I used to until my wife pointed out how wrong I always am so now I rely on her memory.

Link | Posted on Jun 26, 2021 at 15:57 UTC
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Leonp: $180, that's a lot of money for a tiny piece of almost nothing.

@grafli, what was the foil for?

Link | Posted on Jun 24, 2021 at 20:12 UTC
On article Fujifilm X-E4 review: small size, big image quality (739 comments in total)
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Streetsander: Got the X-E4 and 27mm WR the other day, and I have to say I love the combo. And much for the same reason so many seem put off by it: the minimal selection of buttons and dials. I mainly shoot aperture priority with auto ISO, and so the amount of external controls fit my needs perfectly, while every unnecessary setting is out of my way.

The combo with the 27mm WR is also super compact, and the lens yields really sharp and pleasant images.

I can appreciate it's not for everyone though, but to me this camera is a breath of fresh air.

I see on your gear list that you have an X-Pro2. What made you also buy an X-E4?

Link | Posted on Apr 13, 2021 at 02:27 UTC
On article Fujifilm X-E4 review: small size, big image quality (739 comments in total)
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Hobbytake2: Preface: I have owned all of the XE series including the 4, which I’ve just returned. How can you not love the image color science and camera styling? What I just can’t stand is how loud the focus and shutter are, it sounds cheap. I’m just going to keep my 3 until they improve the lens focus systems, plus the shutter sound. Maybe they can get ibs in there too.

Hobbytake2, then more fool you for continuing to buy kit that you complain about. After 4 lenses and "all the XE series", you'd have thought that you'd have learnt by now.

Link | Posted on Apr 8, 2021 at 17:08 UTC
On article Fujifilm X-E4 review: small size, big image quality (739 comments in total)
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Daft Punk: Why do people complain about the lack of a grip?

A Leica does not have a grip.

A Nikon F2 does not have a grip.’ Neither does a Canon F1 or a Pentax Spotmatic...

Has the human race lost the ability to use its thumbs to grip things over the past 40 years?

NexUser, so buy a grip - either a Fuji one or one from a 3rd party. The point is you have an option. Many people complained that the grips on the other X-E series weren't enough.

Link | Posted on Apr 7, 2021 at 14:19 UTC
On article Fujifilm X-E4 review: small size, big image quality (739 comments in total)
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Hobbytake2: Preface: I have owned all of the XE series including the 4, which I’ve just returned. How can you not love the image color science and camera styling? What I just can’t stand is how loud the focus and shutter are, it sounds cheap. I’m just going to keep my 3 until they improve the lens focus systems, plus the shutter sound. Maybe they can get ibs in there too.

The loudness of the focusing has nothing to do with the X-E4. It's the pancake lens that you chose as part of the bundle. The lens is too small for the ultrasonic motors used in other lenses.

Link | Posted on Apr 7, 2021 at 14:12 UTC
On article Fujifilm X-E4 review: small size, big image quality (739 comments in total)
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Gerard Shutter: It is indeed a nice compact camera. But Fuji keeps doing too many bodies that are honestly just duplicates for the most part.
This has the size of an x100v, with the specs of an xt30, which are both an xs10 without ibis, which is basically an xt4 without weather sealing........
In my opinion buy an xt3 for the same money and get a pro body that is just right for everything.

LoL. So you're complaining about Fuji giving you too much choice?

Link | Posted on Apr 7, 2021 at 14:08 UTC
On article Fujifilm X-E4 review: small size, big image quality (739 comments in total)
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mmditter: What would be the pros and cons of this camera with the 27mm pancake vs. the X100V?

The X100V has built in ND filter, flash and is weather sealed none of which the X-E4 has. But it is more expensive and has a fixed lens. The 100V has a leaf shutter (and so is quieter?). Both have high speed flash sync though.

Link | Posted on Apr 6, 2021 at 17:58 UTC
On article DPReview TV: Fujifilm X-E4 review (261 comments in total)
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jhorse: As a XE3 owner, which is a great travel and general purpose camera, I had planned to upgrade to the XE4. I can live without IBIS, I can live without WR (but I view this as a lost opportunity with the new WR 27 and f2s), but the removal of the rear dial and the front and rear grips has put form over function, vanity over ergonomics (see Chris's point at the 2 min point). It is too minimalist for me. I now intend to stay with my XE3 and the 27 Mk I instead up upgrading the XE4 and 27 Mk II. Pity, but with virtually no difference in image quality and a down grade in ergonomics, it is not worth the cost of change.

FTOG
Are you saying that the X100V doesn't have enough controls for you!?

If price is the issue then why not a 2nd hand X-E3?

Link | Posted on Mar 24, 2021 at 03:12 UTC
On article DPReview TV: Fujifilm X-E4 review (261 comments in total)
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cosinaphile: plasticy ??? holy moly i was so close to pulling the trigger

yikes

Threaded
I can certainly believe that the outer case of the main body is plastic. I expect that from most cameras around this price point and weight.

I checked my X-E1 and the base does indeed have a thin plastic cover. Not sure what it's screwed into. Definitely something more sturdy than those faceplates which are paper thin. The mount point for the tripod is obviously metal. I don't believe that that is simply glued into plastic. I also looked at the X-E3. That definitely has a metal base. Same for the X-E4 as can be seen here:

https://3.img-dpreview.com/files/p/TS1200x900~sample_galleries/8811799642/2139278688.jpg

Link | Posted on Mar 24, 2021 at 02:36 UTC
On article DPReview TV: Fujifilm X-E4 review (261 comments in total)
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cosinaphile: plasticy ??? holy moly i was so close to pulling the trigger

yikes

cosinaphile, forest dream, Threaded ​​and others

It's not 'plasticky'. As the initial review here on DPR says,

"But really, I find this to be a really attractive little camera. The faux-leatherette looks and feels nice, the magnesium-alloy top plate is lovely and the camera body feels solid."

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilm-x-e4-review

This guy thinks it has better build quality than the X-E3:

"While the X-E4 has the same magnesium alloy top-plate as the X-E3, I feel that the build quality is better and sturdier."

https://www.fujixpassion.com/2021/02/16/x-e4-the-minimalist-tool-of-its-time/

Link | Posted on Mar 24, 2021 at 00:13 UTC
On article DPReview TV: Fujifilm X-E4 review (261 comments in total)
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The Fat Fish: My X-E3 was a blast to shoot with but I had to let it go when it came to the post processing, an element of photography I really enjoy. I was desperately hoping the X-E4 would drop X-Trans but alas, I must wait a generation or two more.

unhappymeal + kreislauf
To be fair, the vast majority of cameras don't need any changes. But also, if you use Capture One you don't need to change anything for Fuji. I've not tried it but I've read that it's very good at handling Fuji raw files. There's also the X-Transformer plug-in for Lightroom which is supposed to be v good. Not sure if that counts as a 'changing your workflow'.

The faveon processor by Sigma might also require workflow changes.

Link | Posted on Mar 23, 2021 at 21:44 UTC
On article DPReview TV: Fujifilm X-E4 review (261 comments in total)
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David610: I would buy this camera BUT the EVF at 2.36M dot is the viewfinder resolution of a decade ago.

FTOG
Not if you park it around where I live ;-)

Link | Posted on Mar 23, 2021 at 16:44 UTC
On article DPReview TV: Fujifilm X-E4 review (261 comments in total)
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David610: I would buy this camera BUT the EVF at 2.36M dot is the viewfinder resolution of a decade ago.

FTOG
I think you'll find that penny farthings have two wheels, not one. A hint is in the name: penny and farthing.

Link | Posted on Mar 23, 2021 at 16:03 UTC
On article DPReview TV: Fujifilm X-E4 review (261 comments in total)
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ether2: X-E3 / X-E4 side by side comparison including menus and button functionality:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrKmH-YTpYI

FTOG
"...rather than a capable, but much simplified camera..."
Nonsense. The X-E4 has several functional upgrades over the X-E3. For example, the latest sensor and processor giving improved auto focus. Improved, articulating screen. Faster burst speeds and better video.

The X-E4 has the innards of the X-S10 so can't be said to be expensive in comparison. And as a review on this site stated, "As you can see, the X-E4 really offers a lot of bang for your buck in this market segment."

This is from someone who has bought into the older X-E line and is pleased with the upgrades.

Link | Posted on Mar 23, 2021 at 15:54 UTC
On article DPReview TV: Fujifilm X-E4 review (261 comments in total)
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kreislauf: What I hear people in the forums complain about the X-Pro3 and X-E4 is, that many people go berserk about what they feel was "taken away from them" and instead don't start thinking and trying what they will actually have at their disposal.
#goandtry
worked for me.

Often by people who don't even own any of the Pro or X-E series.

Link | Posted on Mar 22, 2021 at 16:00 UTC
On article DPReview TV: Fujifilm X-E4 review (261 comments in total)
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ether2: I don't get why so many people are getting their panties in a twist over a few lost buttons and missing a fairly useless front bump.

I have the X-E1. It has just 1 wheel. Only ever use it when viewing shots. Touch screen better. Never used the Fn button on X-E1. New AE-L / AF-L position on the X-E4 looks better than it was before.

I use a hand strap so not sure if I need an extra grip. The optional thumb grip looks like it would be better than old bump, though I'd probably wait and see if Lensmate makes its hinged version rather than buy the Fuji one.

I see the clean approach of the X-E4 an opportunity to customise as I want. Inside that small body is a *lot* of camera.

As for X-E3, I'd prefer the X-E4 flip screen and better focusing etc. The HSS flash capability of the X-E4 is handy too. The much lower price of the X-E3 is certainly attractive but I'd rather have the latest sensor and better screen. I don't need to press a plethora of buttons each time to get a good shot.

unhappymeal
No. You raised the issue of grip and I addressed it. As for buttons, I agree that aesthetics were a consideration but as I previously said in this thread, "Too many dedicated buttons can be accidentally engaged and can also add confusing clutter."

And as I also said in this thread, there is a difference between 'useful' and crucial.

I've seen several people complain about accidently engaging, e.g. the Q button on their Fujis.

As for the M/C/S switch, that would seem to be a purely aesthetic decision. I don't know know how radiply people need to switch between these modes and whether the new X-E4 interface would be a hindrance but that is the sole gripe that I could imagine being valid. Crucial enough for such strong language in this forum though?

Link | Posted on Mar 22, 2021 at 15:48 UTC
On article DPReview TV: Fujifilm X-E4 review (261 comments in total)
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ether2: I don't get why so many people are getting their panties in a twist over a few lost buttons and missing a fairly useless front bump.

I have the X-E1. It has just 1 wheel. Only ever use it when viewing shots. Touch screen better. Never used the Fn button on X-E1. New AE-L / AF-L position on the X-E4 looks better than it was before.

I use a hand strap so not sure if I need an extra grip. The optional thumb grip looks like it would be better than old bump, though I'd probably wait and see if Lensmate makes its hinged version rather than buy the Fuji one.

I see the clean approach of the X-E4 an opportunity to customise as I want. Inside that small body is a *lot* of camera.

As for X-E3, I'd prefer the X-E4 flip screen and better focusing etc. The HSS flash capability of the X-E4 is handy too. The much lower price of the X-E3 is certainly attractive but I'd rather have the latest sensor and better screen. I don't need to press a plethora of buttons each time to get a good shot.

unhappymeal
The standard grip on the X-E3 is no use with a large lens either. You'll also need the optional grip when using a tripod or else the lens will clash with the tripod. And this is why Fuji - and third parties - sell optional grips and neck straps! (And we have two hands.) I bought the optional grip for my X-E1 for such situations.

And the E-M1 III is an SLR body, incomparable with the X-E4 in form and purpose. If so many buttons are crucial then you can choose from one of the various other SLR bodies from Fuji.

Link | Posted on Mar 22, 2021 at 14:10 UTC
On article DPReview TV: Fujifilm X-E4 review (261 comments in total)
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Mateus1: Terrible handling with no grips at front and back, removed very usefull parts, nothing new from X-S10 offer, most crippled of all Fuji X-E line, actually with X-E4 Fuji killed X-E line and it's Fujis worst release in last years, dissapointed for most XE1/2/3 users (I have X-E2)
so, no thanks, absolutelly nothing exiting for this price.

Funny. I was looking back through comments on X-E3 review and people were complaining about the poor grip.

You can add whatever grip you want. I have the X-E1. I found the thumb area poor and often hit one of the buttons. Plus I had to buy an extra grip anyway for using the camera on a tripod: a) couldn't change the battery without removing the plate each time and b) you need the grip when using larger lenses.

Link | Posted on Mar 21, 2021 at 19:01 UTC
On article DPReview TV: Fujifilm X-E4 review (261 comments in total)

X-E3 / X-E4 side by side comparison including menus and button functionality:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrKmH-YTpYI

Link | Posted on Mar 21, 2021 at 15:10 UTC as 8th comment | 8 replies
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