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On article Sony a9 first look videos (294 comments in total)
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flip 21: Still no 180º fully articulated screen?!?!? Are you joking? :(

@flip 21- "The 15.000€ Sony FS7 II...has a selfie 180º articulated LCD..."

No it does not. It has an LCD mounted on an extension arm, but it's really not meant to be flipped 180 degrees, and certainly not for selfie shooting.

As for the A9's lack of full 180 articulation, let's keep in mind that it is targeted at FF cameras such as the 1DX II or D5, which have no LCD articulation at all! Neither does the 5D MKIV. Of the few FF cameras that do offer any articulation (Nikon D750, Pentax K-1), none have 180 degree LCD articulation. Zero. Nada. So the tantrum and hissy-fit you are throwing over the A9's lack of 180 degree LCD articulation is really absurd.

Link | Posted on Apr 21, 2017 at 21:30 UTC
On article Sony a9 first look videos (294 comments in total)
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Photomonkey: So basically it is a FF 24MP Olympus EM-1mk2 with fewer lenses? ;)

Oh yeah, the Oly gets 60FPS.

Well, there is the slight difference in size between FF and m4/3! You can't really ignore that. FF will give better background blur and subject isolation than m4/3, which can often be quite important and valuable. As for high ISO performance, I'm gonna bet the Sony will do noticeably better, as FF typically does against m4/3.

Link | Posted on Apr 21, 2017 at 21:12 UTC
On article Sony a9 first look videos (294 comments in total)
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Scottelly: 24 megapixels? Really? I don't know what they're thinking, but there is no way in hell I am going to pay that kind of money for a 24 megapixel camera. Maybe they think this thing will compete against the Canon 1Dx Mk II or the Nikon D5. Those are all about lenses and weather seals though, so unless Sony is about to launch a bad-ass new 800mm f5.6 withs optical stabilization and selling it for $5,000, I don't see this camera selling many copies. I guess I'll just have to wait for the A9r (if it ever comes).

Scottelly- "there is no way in hell I am going to pay that kind of money for a 24 megapixel camera. Maybe they think this thing will compete against the Canon 1Dx Mk II or the Nikon D5. Those are all about lenses and weathersealing"

Oh, so when you drop $6000 for a 20mp 1DX II, or $6500 for a 20mp D5, lenses are included in that price tag?

As for weathersealing, $1500 or $2000 extra is pretty darn expensive weathersealing! The reality is that most photogs who shoot 1DII or D5 will never need the extent of sealing that they offer. And most cameras these days can handle far more than people realize. I travel with a lowly A6000. I've shot all over the world in nasty conditions. Monsoon rains in Japan. High humidity and dust in India. I take it skiing. Through it all, it has survived just fine. And it's not even "weather sealed" or "weather resistant", haha!

The A9 is categorized as "weather resistant". I'm sure it'll handle the needs of the overwelming majority of photogs.

Link | Posted on Apr 21, 2017 at 21:05 UTC
On article The Sony a9 is a 24MP sports-shooting powerhouse (1856 comments in total)
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notpc: Interesting I guess, but it's the upper end. What do these tech advancements mean for the lower end? What is Sony going to give us for $500, and how does it compare with what Pentax and Nikon offer for the same? Especially for those of us who get no benefit from more fps.

@notpc- "top IQ (which A6500 has, but not A6000)."

LOL, I feel sorry for anal pixel peepers. They live for lab tests.

I'm quite certain that if I gave you 100 real-world images, half shot with a K-70 and half shot with an A6000, you'd be very hard pressed to tell which images came from which camera without a TREMENDOUS amount of anal-retentive scrutiny. And even with TREMENDOUS anal-retentive scrutiny, you'd probably still get most of your guesses wrong.

Back in the earlier days of digital, there were significant differences in sensor performance. Today, it's really just splitting hairs for the sake of splitting hairs. It's an exercise in diminishing returns and pointless futility, especially if you're NOT a professional who is selling images to extremely demanding clients that are in need of very high quality images for a national ad campaign or something. For the average shooter obsessing over IQ, it's an exercise in self-flagellation. Get over it.

Link | Posted on Apr 21, 2017 at 19:07 UTC
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sknai16: I would not want to take this camera into D5 or D500 territory with respect to dust and water. The specs look great, but one still has the feeling that this would not stand up to the hardships that top DSLRs at half the price will withstand. Try all this electronics at minus ten C and you might be "deadly" surprised.
However, if they packaged these specs into a body that is really insulated and dust and water resistant like a working DSLR, watch out NIKCanon!

Meh, I have a lowly A6000 that I've used in terrible conditions: rain, dust, snow. It's not a weather-sealed body. But I do have a silicon cover for it, which is really more for bumps and knocks than real water protection. It has survived just fine and still works like a champ. I think people would really be surprised at just how much abuse today's camera can handle. I'm confident that an A9 would do just fine.

Many smartphones these days are completely submersible in water. You can literally take a shower with many smartphones, or go swimming with them. Waterproofing treatments of smartphones is superb these days. Even Sony has submersible smartphones. I wouldn't be surprised if similar waterproofing treatments were applied to cameras very soon. Heck, I'm surprised it hasn't already happened.

Link | Posted on Apr 21, 2017 at 18:40 UTC
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ABM Barry: I don't trust the build quality. I see they are claiming a more sturdy lens mount also with more screws! Why should they have to?

After-market lens mounts are available for sony cameras! Why?
I don't know of any other brand that has given rise to an aftermarket lens mount!

I think Sony have shares in plastic, .. not metal.

Having sad that, .. I think Sony has potential, .... I just wonder when Sony will actually listen, learn and then fix the issues we have been complaining about for years?

I have been handed several over the years to test, ... For me, It's just not there yet?

"I think Sony have shares in plastic, .. not metal."

Paranoid much? The reality is that product development is an evolutionary process. Products don't often enter the market as perfect. Changes and modifications are made. Look at Apple. For all the wonderful design work they do, they still have products that hit the market where problems arise (ie, antennagate). Or look at Samsung with their exploding batteries in the Note 7. Companies learn, modify, fix, and improve. Product design is an iterative process.

So Sony realized that they need to bolster their mount, based on their experience with previous models. So they did. And life goes on. I think Sony is moving very quickly with their evolution in the camera market. I don't think I've ever seen any camera company iterate and progress as quickly as Sony has. And they certainly seem to be listening to feedback. It's quite amazing. And I think it's great. They have that agile, move-fast, underdog mentality.

Link | Posted on Apr 21, 2017 at 18:31 UTC
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Dave Oddie: If Sony want to chase the pro sports shooter and wildlife photographer then why not go the whole hog and come up with a form factor for the body that is more ergonomic?

What would be wrong in making the A9 look almost identical to an A99ii or any other traditional looking DSLR which is far easier to hold with big lenses?

Why are Sony so clearly wedded to this form factor for this range of FF mirrorless cameras? Looks like a case of form over function here.

First of all, Sony offers a battery grip for the A9. Secondly, do we really need yet another me-too DSLR-form camera? Why make the A9 "look identical to an A99ii" when we already have an A99ii. I'm always astounded by how adamant some people are about things conforming, and how dead-set people are against anything that deviates from what they consider to be the "norm". We already have plenty of flagship pro bodies that conform to the DSLR form factor. Can we at least have *one* flagship camera that offers a slightly different form factor and design? This kind of "out of the box" deviation apparently drives some people nuts, hahaha. It's the tyranny of conformity and sameness. It's a very cookie-cutter mentality. I prefer a bit more variety in the world. It's not a one-size-fits-all world.

As for most sports/wildlife photogs shooting long lenses, most are shooting on monopods, tripods, and gimbals. The camera is just along for the ride.

Link | Posted on Apr 21, 2017 at 18:21 UTC
On article The Sony a9 is a 24MP sports-shooting powerhouse (1856 comments in total)
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Donnie G: Sony fans have good reason to celebrate because the a9 could be a real game-changer for the brand. Instead of a direct competitor to sports cameras like the 1DXII or the D5, I see the a9 as a complete rethinking of their higher end a7 series that could actually be a better all-rounder than Canon's 5D-IV. If that does prove to be the case, then Sony will finally be able to concentrate on E-mount exclusively and wean themselves from their dependence on legacy Minolta mount holdovers.

As always, end of the year sales volumes will tell the tale, but right now the a9 appears to be the right camera to generate some positive momentum toward growth for Sony's camera unit.

However, there's nothing about Sony's a9 that would make me want to switch to their still largely experimental camera system. I totally trust and love my OVF equipped, 100% reliable, ergonomically brilliant, Canon DSLRs, their EF lenses, and their "best in the world" customer service, far too much to change on a whim. 😎

"Instead of a direct competitor to sports cameras like the 1DXII or the D5, I see the a9 as a complete rethinking of their higher end a7 series that could actually be a better all-rounder than Canon's 5D-IV."

Why can't it be both? Why can't it be both a direct competitor and a rethinking of higher end pro FF? Keep in mind, there are plenty of people who buy 1DXII and D5, but don't shoot sports. There are plenty of pro wedding photogs out there who buy 1D and D5. So I don't think it's right to pigeon-hole the 1D and D5 as only being "sports cameras." For all those users out there who would buy a 1D and D5-- but don't shoot sports-- I certainly do think the A9 is a direct competitor and new alternative in flagship FF cameras.

Link | Posted on Apr 21, 2017 at 16:18 UTC
On article The Sony a9 is a 24MP sports-shooting powerhouse (1856 comments in total)
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notpc: Interesting I guess, but it's the upper end. What do these tech advancements mean for the lower end? What is Sony going to give us for $500, and how does it compare with what Pentax and Nikon offer for the same? Especially for those of us who get no benefit from more fps.

@@notpc - and yes, you can get all this tech from a $500 Sony, which is a tremendous value. You have to pay waaaay more to get anything close to this in a DSLR from any other brand. This is in answer to your question of "What is Sony going to give us for $500." I'd say they are giving us a LOT for only $500, with the A6000!

Link | Posted on Apr 21, 2017 at 16:06 UTC
On article The Sony a9 is a 24MP sports-shooting powerhouse (1856 comments in total)
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notpc: Interesting I guess, but it's the upper end. What do these tech advancements mean for the lower end? What is Sony going to give us for $500, and how does it compare with what Pentax and Nikon offer for the same? Especially for those of us who get no benefit from more fps.

@notpc- haha, really? You're going to argue that IQ is the huge differentiator for you? Seriously? These days, you have to be a real anal pixel peeper to tell the difference between cameras. As for ergo, that's all a matter of taste. But the best ergo in the world is no good to me if my camera is sitting at home. As for AF points, yeah, that's a big factor. I used to think I was fine with 11 AF points and center-point AF too. And in some cases I still am. But when you have the flexibility of having 179 AF points across almost the entire viewfinder, as well as face detection tracking-- wow, it really has benefitted how I shoot. I used to do "focus-lock-recompose" *all the time* when shooting with a DSLR...especially when shooting people and portraits. Now my A6000 simply locks onto the subject's face and I am free to compose as I wish, across multiple shots. Yes, these are "my" priorities. My point is that I didn't realize how valuable these things were until I tried/lived with them.

Link | Posted on Apr 21, 2017 at 16:03 UTC
On article The Sony a9 is a 24MP sports-shooting powerhouse (1856 comments in total)
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Donnie G: At $4,500 USD, the a9 could be the first FF Sony that won't burn a hole in your wallet. Or will it? lol 🤡

This "overheat" thing is popular FUD that mirrorless haters love to desperately cling to. But it's FUD. I remember before Nikon offered FF DSLRs, Nikon users used to say the same silly non-sense FUD to argue against FF: soft corners and vignetting is a "feature" of FF! Blah blah blah. People are silly and insecure.

Link | Posted on Apr 21, 2017 at 15:53 UTC
On article The Sony a9 is a 24MP sports-shooting powerhouse (1856 comments in total)
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MistaHaid: With an optical viewfinder you can observe your scene over a long period of time and wait for the right Moment without loosing battery or heating up your Sensor. Thats important for me. Besides that i think this camera brings a lot new Life in the camera Industry.

@MistaHaid - I use both DSLR and mirrorless, so I'm not a partisan hack like some people here. I do agree that if you're the kind of shooter who needs to be staring into a viewfinder for very long periods of time, like a wildlife photographer staking out a bird's nest waiting for the right shot, DSLR is still the best tool for the job. So there are situations where OVF still might be the best option. But aside from that, I really like EVF because of all the other things it offers. EVF and OVF, both options will be around for a long, long time. It's great to have choice.

Link | Posted on Apr 21, 2017 at 15:49 UTC
On article The Sony a9 is a 24MP sports-shooting powerhouse (1856 comments in total)
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notpc: Interesting I guess, but it's the upper end. What do these tech advancements mean for the lower end? What is Sony going to give us for $500, and how does it compare with what Pentax and Nikon offer for the same? Especially for those of us who get no benefit from more fps.

@notpc- I didn't just mention fps. I also mentioned that you get 179 AF points that cover 92% of the frame. What does the K-70 have? 11 AF points? Haha. You also get face detection AF tracking, which has really changed the way I shoot (compared to a DSLR without face AF) for the better. I still own a DSLR, but every time I go back to OVF I find it so primitive compared to what an EVF offers. EVF gives real-time exposure feedback, exposure clipping indicators, histogram, in-viewfinder image review, face detection with a focus box around your subject's face, instant grid line options, focus magnification, etc.

Also, size is a big factor for me. I have my A6000 in my messenger bag with me every day. When I was using a DSLR, I rarely had it with me because of size. No matter how good a camera is, it's no good if it's sitting at home. Sorry, buddy, between my DSLR and my Sony A6000, the A6000 gets 95% of my usage.

Face it, notpc, you just have a chip on your shoulder.

Link | Posted on Apr 21, 2017 at 15:37 UTC
On article The Sony a9 is a 24MP sports-shooting powerhouse (1856 comments in total)
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Ben O Connor: Only thing I saw good in that camera is; it shares the same body as A7 series has. If anyone has accessories of that system, it will work with that too.

Other than that.. Could this replace Canon 1D or Nikon D5 ? Really ?

"Other than that.. Could this replace Canon 1D or Nikon D5 ? Really ?"

Yes, why not? I see a lot of wedding photographers who use 1D's and D5's, and I think the A9 would be an excellent alternative. It can shoot silently, which is a big advantage of wedding shooting. And yet, it can still blast off a 20fps burst for the critical bouquet toss. It also has 5-axis IBIS, which neither then 1D or D5 have.

Link | Posted on Apr 21, 2017 at 08:50 UTC
On article The Sony a9 is a 24MP sports-shooting powerhouse (1856 comments in total)
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joyclick: I don't see other camera makers and their cameras evaporate with this Sony thermonuclear bomb.

No one does. Such comments as yours are childish and overly simplistic. It's simply another great addition to the market. Canon and Nikon certainly need more competition. It gives buyers another option and another choice-- and a pretty interesting one that is different from the cookie-cutter pro DSLR paradigm.

Link | Posted on Apr 21, 2017 at 08:17 UTC
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Pritzl: I don't get it. Don't we buy mirrorless cameras to save on size/weight? How is lugging that lump along a good solution? I'm disappointed by the slow pace of development in battery technology.

@matthew saville - not so. I am a Canon APS-C DSLR user who also uses a Sony A6000. I'm seeing a very significant reduction in size and weight. Here's the size comparison of the Canon 60D that used to be my primary camera, compared to the Sony A6000 which is now my primary camera:

http://camerasize.com/compact/#100,535,ha,f

Canon 60D: 755g. A6000: 344g. Even with additional batteries, I'm seeing a significant reduction in size and weight. And the A6000 shoots at 11fps, compared to the 60D's 5fps. My favorite street lens on both cameras is a 35/2. The Canon 35/2 IS is 355g. The Sony 35/1.8 OSS is 154 and about half the size of the Canon lens. The A6000 with 35/1.8 OSS mounted on it weighs 498g, which is a lot less than the 60D body alone (755g). Even with extra batteries, it's lighter, and certainly takes up a lot less room in my bag. The A6000+35/1.8 OSS mounted takes up less space in my bag than the 60D body alone. That's why my daily carry is now my A6000. The 60D sits at home.

Link | Posted on Apr 21, 2017 at 08:11 UTC
On article The Sony a9 is a 24MP sports-shooting powerhouse (1856 comments in total)
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larry angier: Psst! I don't mean to rain on Sony's parade, BUT...the emperor has no cloths, I mean glass! Where's the long and fast "sports/wildlife" lenses that C&N both have, I mean, the 200/2, 300/2.8, 400/2.8, 500/4, 600/4, 800/5.6, 200-400/4... that a sports & wildlife shooters use all the time? Instead there seems to be just another 70-200/2.8 and "announced" 100-400/4.5~5.6... Come now, you gotta have the exotic glass to make this a real game changer.

Rome was not built in a day, as they say. Neither were Canon's and Nikon's stable of glass. People seem to have the delusion that an entire camera and lens system should be born whole, in one fell swoop.

Link | Posted on Apr 21, 2017 at 07:56 UTC
On article The Sony a9 is a 24MP sports-shooting powerhouse (1856 comments in total)
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The Silver Nemesis: You know what - I have the following off topic question: considering an equal price, which receiver would you buy: Sony, Marantz or Yamaha?
The answer will clarify something for me.

So basically, Silver Nemesis is eagerly waiting for Yamaha to enter the camera market!

Seriously, though, you seem like the kind of guy who makes judgements in broad brush strokes and generalizations. "All Sony products are like this..." "All mirrorless is overrated..." You're also possibly the kind of guy who would say, "All asians are like this..." Or "All Italians are like this..." etc. That's just not a good way to operate. We shouldn't see the world in broad brush strokes. It's overly simplistic, prejudicial, ignorant and even a bit bigoted. It's the kind of attitude that your crazy-racist-uncle-that-you-avoid-at-Thanksgiving would have, haha. Don't be that guy.

Link | Posted on Apr 21, 2017 at 07:50 UTC
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AE-1Burnham: The ergonomics look childish (as in a toy for children). Yes the specs are great(!) and I wish Canon/Nikon would produce a similar camera, but take note Sony: when you hold a 1-series body (or Nikon equiv) it's form fits the operator like a perfectly broken in baseball glove,-or a custom made pair of shoes,-or a tempur-pedic mattress. Up until Sony embraces a function-over-form design philosophy, I think a lot of pros will stay with their slappers (the glass helps that decision too...).

Not everyone agrees. I find Canon and Nikon pro grips to be overly large. But up until now, it's been a "one-size-fits-all" philosophy when it came to flagship pro bodies. And no, you can't say, "But this is who ALL pros want their bodies to be"...when that's the only choice that is offered! It's like Henry Ford saying that you could have a Model T in "any color so long as it is black."

Now, at least, users have a new choice in body size and shape for a pro-level body. It is not a one-size-fits-all, everyone-likes-the-exact-same-size world that we live in. Let's get away from such narrow-minded, myopic thinking. It's the tyranny of sameness and conformity.

Link | Posted on Apr 21, 2017 at 07:26 UTC
On article The Sony a9 is a 24MP sports-shooting powerhouse (1856 comments in total)
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T3: With regard to the silent shooting of this new pro Sony, I think of how noisy press conferences are with all those DSLRs clacking loudly with all their mirrors flipping up and down. It's terrible. Maybe in the future, the press corps will switch over to quieter mirrorless cameras such as the Sony A9. What a big improvement that would be! I just don't see any point in the press corps continuing to use loud DSLR cameras with clacking mirrors and mechanical shutters anymore, especially now that we have newer, quieter technology like the A9 that shoot silently.

@HowaboutRAW
If you add flash, then essentially your subject ends up being "well lit", which negates your argument of excessive noise. And as I said before, press photos shot by the press corps that are currently using Canon/Nikon pro DSLR bodies are not fine art images that are going to be exhibited as gallery prints.

Besides, I think the whole issue of "noise generated" by electronic shutter is bogus and overblown. I remember people saying the exact same thing about mirrorless cameras being full-time live-view cameras: "oh my god, with the sensor on all the time, there will be massive image noise generated! It'll be terrible!" Pfft, total BS and FUD.

Link | Posted on Apr 21, 2017 at 07:12 UTC
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