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miggylicious: Canon has been very clear that lens stabilization brings in more money by creating several versions of the same lens.

@trungtran - So how is it that Sony, Nikon, Fuji, Olympus, Pentax, and Panasonic ILC bodies are *all* able to have IBIS, but *only* Canon can't?

Link | Posted on Oct 19, 2018 at 16:08 UTC
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Ironfilm: Sounds like it is still a long time until the Sony a7Smk3 will happen.

And he was only very vague about new APS-C cameras coming :-(

Oh well, nothing new here that is good news. Maybe even mildly bad news, as it seems we have nothing exciting new for me in the near future.

@cbphoto123 -

1. I like the ring on the EF-to-RF adapter. That's innovative
2. I like the flip screen LCD on the EOS R because it's useful for vlogging (although I still prefer on-axis tilt LCD screens. I'd prefer to have a hybrid design that could do both)
3. The M Fn bar has potential, but I think it would have been much better if it were just a clickie rocker bar rather than a touch bar
4. The EOS R grip seems nice
5. The 470 EX-AI auto-rotate flash is brillant

I've had plenty more favorable things to say about Canon bodies in the past, as I have been a Canon user for so long. But as of right now, the EOS R has a lot of room for improvement. Let's see how the EOS R MKII turns out.

Frankly, your neediness is totally ridiculous, lol. Who the heck says "please say 5 nice things about XYZ brand for me?"

Link | Posted on Oct 19, 2018 at 15:59 UTC
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AlexisH: Q: Do you have a different design approach for APS-C and full-frame lenses?

A: No. Our strategy is unique - one single mount. For example, future APS-C customers might use our G-Master 24mm F1.4. So our lens design should be consistent for all types of models.

1. No different design approach. Meaning that they design lenses for full-frame and their APS-C system will not make sense as a standalone system. It's always going to be a supporting act for their full-frame system

2. One single mount strategy. Finally, they admit there is no future in A-mount. Took them long enough. But what makes this strategy unique?

@SidneyVision - LOL, nice try. The US, China, and German market data are not just "last Tuesday in Peoria between 6 and 7 PM."

This reminds me of Nikon users who were in complete denial that Canon EOS was catching up to, and surpassing, Nikon SLR sales back in the 1990s. A lot of Nikon users remained in complete denial that it was happening, or even that it was possible! Nikon was so overwhelmingly dominant throughout the photography market. Nikon had the heritage, the users, the reputation, the mystique. It seemed unfathomable that Canon EOS could go from zero market share to surpassing Nikon market share...and this was even *after* Canon angered countless users by dumping the FD system! So for a long, long time, Nikon users just denied what was happening. They made jokes (calling Canon the "copier company"), they laughed, they denied. But all the while, Canon kept plowing ahead, and they overtook dominant Nikon. Now we see something similar with Sony.

Link | Posted on Oct 19, 2018 at 15:26 UTC
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Jefftan: show me APS-C lens , not talk
not APS-C bidy, a6500 good enough

if not for sigma lens, leave sony APS-C long ago

nothing new, all are tired of hearing standard line

@SidneyVision - The practical reality is that the specs are open for use by third parties, and no one is charged a fee to use the lens mount. It doesn't force third parties to have to resort to reverse engineering the mount. And yes, the standard is for making lenses, not bodies.

Link | Posted on Oct 19, 2018 at 15:20 UTC
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PhilDunn: Cares about the customers and yet with each new generation of RX100 camera the hand holdability of each version remains poor. That includes using the stupid stick on grip that Sony sells. Meanwhile, pick up a small Canon camera and see the stark difference in grip, comfort and security.

@PhilDunn - So let me get this straight: *every* single grip option is no good? And therefore, your only option is to complain? I think there are plenty of good options out there. And if I still couldn't find a "good option" (if I were really *that* picky and hard to please, as you apparently are), then I'd just design one myself. Like I did for my EOS M. Or, another option is to just complain. The choice is yours.

Link | Posted on Oct 19, 2018 at 15:15 UTC
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Prairie Pal: Tripod socket is a plate screwed to the body. I always assumed they were machined directly into the body.

That's why heavy lenses have (or should have) tripod collars. Makes you wonder about the 3.2lb Canon RF 28-70/2L, doesn't it? Handheld it should be fine, but that's a lot of unsupported weight to stick on the front of the EOS R when it's mounted on a tripod. The Sigma 105/1.4 is similar in size and weight (without its tripod collar), but it has a tripod collar to support that large size and weight.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71HhzdHtL9L._SL1500_.jpg

Link | Posted on Oct 19, 2018 at 14:59 UTC
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Ironfilm: Sounds like it is still a long time until the Sony a7Smk3 will happen.

And he was only very vague about new APS-C cameras coming :-(

Oh well, nothing new here that is good news. Maybe even mildly bad news, as it seems we have nothing exciting new for me in the near future.

@cbphoto123 - I would welcome that conversation and see how his or her comments compare to data, facts, reality. In fact, we already have those types. And I certainly think they are free to engage in these threads. BTW, I am a Canon user myself. I've been a Canon users since the 1990s. I would even say I was a Canon Fanboy myself. But Canon back then was different from what they are today. Today, I see Sony as in the same position as Canon was in the 1990s/2000s: technologically superior, agile, fast-moving, very ambitious, offering better value, and disliked/attacked by the status quo (mostly Nikon users).

Link | Posted on Oct 19, 2018 at 14:50 UTC
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AlexisH: Q: Do you have a different design approach for APS-C and full-frame lenses?

A: No. Our strategy is unique - one single mount. For example, future APS-C customers might use our G-Master 24mm F1.4. So our lens design should be consistent for all types of models.

1. No different design approach. Meaning that they design lenses for full-frame and their APS-C system will not make sense as a standalone system. It's always going to be a supporting act for their full-frame system

2. One single mount strategy. Finally, they admit there is no future in A-mount. Took them long enough. But what makes this strategy unique?

@Oskar P - I hate to burst your bubble, but it's not just in the US.

China:
https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sony-is-number-one-in-the-chinese-full-frame-market/

Germany:
https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sony-surpassed-canon-and-nikon-in-the-german-full-frame-market/

The fact that we are even talking about Sony FF sales being *close* to Canon or Nikon FF sales would have been unbelievable just a couple years ago. A few years ago, it wouldn't have been even close. Now we have data showing that Sony FF sales are surpassing Canon and Nikon FF sales. This just goes to show that Sony is making serious headway. People need to open up their eyes, rather than just burying their heads in the sand, in denial.

You sound like Donald Trump who screams "Fake News" at anything he doesn't want to hear.

Link | Posted on Oct 19, 2018 at 14:40 UTC
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PhilDunn: Cares about the customers and yet with each new generation of RX100 camera the hand holdability of each version remains poor. That includes using the stupid stick on grip that Sony sells. Meanwhile, pick up a small Canon camera and see the stark difference in grip, comfort and security.

@cbphoto123 - A, Mr Stalker! LOL. And what makes you think I "ran off from our chat?" Do you really need that kind of attention? BTW, I cited my example of my EOS M where rather than just complaining and whining about its grip (or lack thereof), I simply added a grip to it. Yes, some people are too "lazy" to do that. In my case, I made my own. But one can just as easily go online and order a grip. Order whichever design you like. You can even try various ones until you find one you like. Practical advice, simple solution. That's a much more effective way of "dealing with undesirable emotions", haha!

Link | Posted on Oct 19, 2018 at 14:18 UTC
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Ironfilm: Sounds like it is still a long time until the Sony a7Smk3 will happen.

And he was only very vague about new APS-C cameras coming :-(

Oh well, nothing new here that is good news. Maybe even mildly bad news, as it seems we have nothing exciting new for me in the near future.

@cbphoto123 - LOL, I'm not going to ask you to stop posting. You are totally free to post whatever you want. In fact, I don't think I've ever asked someone to stop posting. Nor have I ever asked someone to say nice things about any particular brand just to make me feel better! That's nuts.

Like I said, a lot of us enjoy participating in these conversations. If it's not your cup of tea, just ignore them or don't read these threads. There's no rule that says you have to jump into every conversation. That's true of life in general. Likewise, there's no rule that says you have to read every single comment in these threads. Use your free will to decide what *you* want to do or read or participate in. But you really can't control what other people do. I certainly would never say cbphoto123 please stop posting! And please say nice things about XYZ brand! You can do whatever you want.

Link | Posted on Oct 19, 2018 at 14:07 UTC
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PhilDunn: Cares about the customers and yet with each new generation of RX100 camera the hand holdability of each version remains poor. That includes using the stupid stick on grip that Sony sells. Meanwhile, pick up a small Canon camera and see the stark difference in grip, comfort and security.

@PhilDunn - Sadly, in modern American society, a lot of people either just want to complain or just want things to be done for them. Seems like PhilDunn is an example of this. In the case of the RX100 design, Sony has chosen to keep that design. It obviously works for them. But if it doesn't work for you, there are a LOT of third-party options out there so you can customize the camera to your liking. Do a Google image search of "RX100 grip" and you'll find a large variety of add-on grips available. Pick one you like, and use it. (It's not a one-size-fits-all world, after all.) But apparently, some people are too lazy to even do that.

Link | Posted on Oct 19, 2018 at 13:55 UTC
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PhilDunn: Cares about the customers and yet with each new generation of RX100 camera the hand holdability of each version remains poor. That includes using the stupid stick on grip that Sony sells. Meanwhile, pick up a small Canon camera and see the stark difference in grip, comfort and security.

@PhilDunn - "I'm just a complainer is all."

Yep. And a bit of a narcissist, too! Obviously, the design of this particular camera doesn't fit your preference. But it doesn't mean that a company should redesign a product just for you. Clearly, the RX100 series continues to do very well. The minimalist flat-front design seems to be working just fine from a commercial stand-point. I liken it to Leica's M rangefinder design: minimalist flat-front design. Many people feel that if the M got a molded grip, it would ruin its aesthetics. Likewise, that's probably the thinking of Sony with the RX100 series. If you don't like that flat-front design, you have other options. You can buy another product. Or you can add a grip to the RX100. Use your free will and exercise these options, otherwise you're "just a complainer." It's like me with the EOS M. I added a grip to it. Done. No need to be "just a complainer." I took action. I find taking action is more effective than being a whiner.

Link | Posted on Oct 19, 2018 at 13:45 UTC
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Ironfilm: Sounds like it is still a long time until the Sony a7Smk3 will happen.

And he was only very vague about new APS-C cameras coming :-(

Oh well, nothing new here that is good news. Maybe even mildly bad news, as it seems we have nothing exciting new for me in the near future.

@cbphoto123 - Oh, please. Do you realize how neurotic you sound? LOL. Tracking times of when someone posts something? Or trying to figure out where they are posting from? And begging that someone says nice things about a particular brand? Seriously? No one here owes anyone anything. And claiming that posters here work for a particular brand that you don't like, just because you don't like what they are posting? You need therapy, dude. If reading posts here really causes you so much distress that you feel you need to become a stalker, then you probably should just not be on these threads. Most of us are here because we *enjoy* participating in these conversations. Clearly, you don't. So ask yourself why you are here at all.

Link | Posted on Oct 19, 2018 at 13:20 UTC
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Ironfilm: Sounds like it is still a long time until the Sony a7Smk3 will happen.

And he was only very vague about new APS-C cameras coming :-(

Oh well, nothing new here that is good news. Maybe even mildly bad news, as it seems we have nothing exciting new for me in the near future.

@cbphoto123 - I use data, facts, information and links to refute a lot of the nonsense that is said here on dpreview. Information is power. I believe knowledge wins over ignorance. Apparently, some people don't like that information, so they choose to shoot the messenger. Obviously, that's foolish and immature. If you don't like what people discuss and post here at these forums, just don't read them! Problem solved. Also, I never said, "Sony perfect. Canikon can do nothing right." That's your own insecurity talking.

Link | Posted on Oct 19, 2018 at 12:31 UTC
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PhilDunn: Cares about the customers and yet with each new generation of RX100 camera the hand holdability of each version remains poor. That includes using the stupid stick on grip that Sony sells. Meanwhile, pick up a small Canon camera and see the stark difference in grip, comfort and security.

@PhilDunn - Here's a thought: if you don't like the design of a particular product, don't buy it. But that doesn't mean that "they don’t give a crap what their customers want." It just means their idea and your idea of how the product should be are different. You clearly carry a chip on your shoulder and have a lot of anger inside. Just go buy something else and be happy. I own a Canon S120. It has a similar "no grip" body. That's even more difficult to hold than the RX100's because it's a thinner body. Also, I owned an EOS M which had a terrible grip (just a tiny bar of hard plastic that I detested) so I fashioned my own:
https://ibb.co/kxRCFf
https://ibb.co/b2M7gL
But I never thought that Canon "don't give a crap." They just had a different idea of how their product should be than me.

Link | Posted on Oct 19, 2018 at 11:37 UTC
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PhilDunn: Cares about the customers and yet with each new generation of RX100 camera the hand holdability of each version remains poor. That includes using the stupid stick on grip that Sony sells. Meanwhile, pick up a small Canon camera and see the stark difference in grip, comfort and security.

Obviously, the form factor of the RX100 works because it continues to sell so successfully. That's really what its about: what sells. Sometimes, certain forms just sell well, and companies stick with it. Just look at Leica M rangefinders. Those were never ergonomic wonders. They never had grips. But people liked the form, so Leica stuck with it. They never decided, "Hmmm, we should change the form by adding a *proper* grip!" Nope. Not even all these decades. They just stuck with the form that they've always had. Sony is apparently doing that with the RX100 line. After all these years, the RX100 form is much like the boring Leica M form: a relatively unchanged, no grip, unadorned, relatively minimalist form .

Link | Posted on Oct 19, 2018 at 06:45 UTC
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Ironfilm: Sounds like it is still a long time until the Sony a7Smk3 will happen.

And he was only very vague about new APS-C cameras coming :-(

Oh well, nothing new here that is good news. Maybe even mildly bad news, as it seems we have nothing exciting new for me in the near future.

@cbphoto123 - Sounds like you're the one with the ruffled feathers. Is that all you're capable of, personal attacks? Apparently so. Apparently you have ruffled feathers because you don't like what the Amazon sales rankings are showing. They are what they are. Sorry if it doesn't fit your status quo vision of how things should be. First, your feathers are ruffled because you don't like the rise of mirrorless. Secondly, your feathers are ruffled because you don't like the success of a company that isn't Nikon or Canon. That's a double impact for you. No wonder you're upset. But just remember, the only constant is change. Things change. 15 years ago, no one would have imagined that Apple "Computer" (as it was formerly called) would be a trillion dollar company that was making most of its money by selling phones!

Link | Posted on Oct 19, 2018 at 06:36 UTC
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Ironfilm: Sounds like it is still a long time until the Sony a7Smk3 will happen.

And he was only very vague about new APS-C cameras coming :-(

Oh well, nothing new here that is good news. Maybe even mildly bad news, as it seems we have nothing exciting new for me in the near future.

@Thoughts R Us - No, the A7SIII was not "pulled." And definitely not because of anything the competition released. Do you even understand what the "S" stands for? The "S" stands for "sensitivity", meaning that it is designed for unparalleled low-light performance. As a result, it takes a long time to develop the technology for it, as Sony Manager Yutaka Iwatsuki explains in this interview video:

https://www.sonyrumors.co/interview-sony-a7s-iii-will-go-beyond-customers-expectations-wow-but-requires-a-lot-of-work-and-time/

You can't just stick any sensor into an "S" model. There is nothing that really competes with the "S" because other cameras aren't designed to do what the "S" does, which is to deliver extremely high sensitivity. The S models are designed for high Sensitivity, the R models are designed for high Resolution.

Why should Sony hurry the next "S" to market when there's nothing to compete with it? Besides, the A7S II continues to sell very well.

Link | Posted on Oct 19, 2018 at 04:32 UTC
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Fotoni: A7S III being delayed, I think they got spooked by Panasonic mirroless full frame. 4K/60p 4:2:2 10-bit should now be the standard for video in that price range. It is really shame what they did especially with A7R III by ruining video post-processing (only 8-bit). Basically only Panasonic and Sony does good video as hybrids. Canon can be close to top tier, if their hacker community can improve video. Nikon improved, but it is still quite lame considering the price.

And it would be about damn time to offer lossless RAW compression. Every big brand included it years ago except Sony.

Here's the answer to why the A7S III has not been released yet, straight from Sony Manager Yutaka Iwatsuki:

https://www.sonyrumors.co/interview-sony-a7s-iii-will-go-beyond-customers-expectations-wow-but-requires-a-lot-of-work-and-time/

The Sony "S" isn't going to be a rush job.

Link | Posted on Oct 19, 2018 at 04:14 UTC
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Jefftan: show me APS-C lens , not talk
not APS-C bidy, a6500 good enough

if not for sigma lens, leave sony APS-C long ago

nothing new, all are tired of hearing standard line

Sony E-mount is an open standard, and they don't charge a fee to 3rd parties, for a reason: Sony wants third-party manufacturers such as Sigma to contribute lenses. That's why E-mount has such huge 3rd party support.

Link | Posted on Oct 19, 2018 at 01:01 UTC
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