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weathersealed: When Canon and Nikon bring out newer versions of their model # they make some improvements. Nikon has the 3000-5000-7000-semi-pro line up and its easier to see the whole line up getting better no matter the price range or user targets. Canon does this too, but Sony with the A6000 series has made no improvements to the 6000 or 6300 and I bet they don't ever, so this does seem more like a successive and not set line up where the users will have to wonder what comes next. I think some day they will just drop the older models and not update them.

"I stand by my silly statement, Sony will never build a new updated A6000 or A6300 body and very probably no A6500"

We'll see about that. Three years into the life cycle of the 7D or 6D, with no replacement yet, a shortsighted person could have also just as confidently boasted, "Canon will never build a new updated 7D or 6D..." That would have been a silly statement, because obviously at the 5 year mark for both these models, Canon did update these models! The same will eventually happen with the A6000/A6300/A6500. To say that Sony will "never" update them is just absurd, haha! It'll happen. It's just a question of what they will call or name these replacements. Maybe the A6000 will become the A7000, and it will become the A7XXX series. I don't know. But they will definitely be replaced. Technology marches on, products march on. And it certainly does with Sony! But the idea that the A6000/6300/6500 is a dead end, with no future replacements, is just shortsighted paranoia.

Link | Posted on Aug 6, 2017 at 22:12 UTC
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weathersealed: When Canon and Nikon bring out newer versions of their model # they make some improvements. Nikon has the 3000-5000-7000-semi-pro line up and its easier to see the whole line up getting better no matter the price range or user targets. Canon does this too, but Sony with the A6000 series has made no improvements to the 6000 or 6300 and I bet they don't ever, so this does seem more like a successive and not set line up where the users will have to wonder what comes next. I think some day they will just drop the older models and not update them.

The A6XXX series has not been updated yet. There are basically 3 models currently in the A6XXX series: A6000, A6300, A6500. One doesn't replace the other. They are basically 3 tiers within the A6XXX series. Eventually, Sony will update the entire series to the A6000 MKII, A6300, MKII, A6500 MKII. You have to remember that the A6000, the oldest of the series, was only introduced in 2014. So it's only about 3 years old. Canon took 5 yrs to update their 7D and 6D! So to say that Sony "has made no improvements to the 6000 or 6300" at this point in time is like complaining that Canon had not made any improvements to the their 7D and 6D just 3 yrs into the lifecycle of those cameras-- "and I bet they don't ever!" In other words, it's silly and shortsighted. Sony is milking the lifecycle of these cameras just like Canon does with their cameras. And why shouldn't they? The A6000, A6300 are still selling well! I still think the A6000 is the best bang-for-your-buck of any APS-C camera out there.

Link | Posted on Aug 6, 2017 at 20:47 UTC
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justmeMN: I wonder what percentage of ILC buyers care about 4K. I suspect not many.

Panasonic are apparently considered to be leaders 4K, but that hasn't resulted in them getting much market share.

Depends on what price point and segment of the market you are about. Large market share is mainly the result of high-volume, low-end products such as Canon Rebels. That segment of the market won't care much about 4K. But when you're talking about a 6D MKII selling for $2000, things like DR and 4K are more significant factors for buyers in that segment of the market. That's why there's so much disappointment, frustration, and even anger towards Canon with the 6D MKII. That's a different market segment from low-level consumer cameras like Canon Rebels. And what's even worse is that the 6D MKII probably won't be replaced for another 5 years! So to put out a camera that is supposed to last 5 years-- which is already perceived by be lacking-- is going to really hurt the 6D MKII. What happens when Sony introduces the A7 III later this year with 4K, IBIS, the A9's AF system, full frame AF point coverage, a joystick, and possibly undercutting the 6D MKII's price? Not good news for Canon.

Link | Posted on Aug 6, 2017 at 20:37 UTC
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iAPX: Apple will invent the auto-scene feature you find on any compact camera since so many years: it's a revolution!

Or the scene analysis of the F80: it's so new!

The processing power and intelligence in smartphones is immense compared to a compact camera or any stand-alone camera. When you're holding a smartphone, it's like holding a tiny supercomputer in your hand. The "intelligence" of a stand-alone camera is extremely rudimentary compared to a smartphone. It's like comparing a pocket calculator to a desktop PC.

Link | Posted on Aug 5, 2017 at 20:23 UTC
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mcshan: From the beginning this series seemed like a mistake. Why complicate a 1 inch sensor? Maybe you can now trade a Nikon 1 for two Pentax Q cameras? Their DL camera line crashed and burned.
I would have preferred Nikon refine the Coolpix A as there is a proven market (Fuji X70, Ricoh GRs, X100F etc.) for a good fixed lens APS-C camera.
Nikon doesn't seem to have solid footing these days. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

"I would have preferred Nikon refine the Coolpix A as there is a proven market (Fuji X70, Ricoh GRs, X100F etc.)"

Proven market? It's still a tiny market. And no additional lens sales. So I don't think Nikon would have done any better with another Coolpix A.

Also, cameras like the Fuji X70, Ricoh GRs and X100F have a particular following beyond just the fact that they have APS-C sensors and fixed lenses. The Fujis have retro styling, design, and functionality that is very popular and distinct. And the GR has a long heritage. The Coolpix A is a rather forgettable camera. The Fujis and Ricoh APS-C compacts have a very clear identity. The Coolpix A didn't really have any identity. So the kinds of buyers that are attracted to the Fuji X70, Ricoh GR or Fuji X100 cameras aren't as attracted to a Coolpix A. In other words, just because there's a market for the Fujis and Ricohs doesn't mean that there's a market for a bland, non-distinct Nikon Coolpix A.

Link | Posted on Aug 4, 2017 at 18:11 UTC
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supeyugin1: So with Nikon dead, Pentax dead, Samsung dead, Panasonic half dead, and Fuji almost nonexistent with their retro junk theme, what's left? Canon, Sony and Olympus? Cannon is an old style similar to Nikon, Sony don't know how to produce good lenses, and their ergonomics is complete disaster, then only Olympus left but the sensor is too small. I'd like to have something similar to EM-10 II or Pana GX85 or G80 but with APS-C sensor. Do I want too much? I don't think so.

Panasonic and Fuji are doing just fine. Panasonic does really well with their m4/3 cameras because of their popularity amongst video shooters. As for Fuji, they just love being in the photography market. It's part of their heritage. Cameras are a very, very small portion of Fuji's business. It's more a labor of love for them. And they do turn a profit on it.

As for your claim that "Sony don't know how to produce good lenses", that's BS. I use both Sony mirrorless and Canon DSLR. For Sony, I have the Sony 18-105/4 OSS, 10-18/4 OSS, 35/1.8 OSS, 50/1.8 OSS, and each one of them is a superb lens. And they are all APS-C lenses, not FF.

As for Sony FF lenses, their G Master lenses are top notch.

You're just ignorant.

Link | Posted on Aug 4, 2017 at 04:34 UTC
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Bassiavet: I think Nikon might go Medium format, with a new mirrorless system, the FF is already packed and it's hard to beat the fuji and sony in apsc crop, nor panasonic or olympus in the m4/3 world.

MF market is tiny compared to the APS-C/FF market. And it's not as if they are going to have the MF market to themselves because Fuji and Hassy are already there.

Nikon is a mass-market brand. Nikon will want to go where the volume is. MF doesn't have the volume because MF isn't a mass-market format -- it's too expensive to be mass market!

Link | Posted on Aug 3, 2017 at 22:43 UTC
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cinemascope: Talking out of my rear, but I always had the feeling that the Nikon 1 system came out of Aptina hard selling the idea to Nikon. Much like Foveon needing to find customers before Sigma took them over. And because the system grew out of an external marketing push, it never really had soul.

LOL, you're dreaming. Nikon poored millions of dollars into developing the 1 system because of a "hard sell" from Aptina? What power does Aptina have over Nikon? What leverage does Aptina have over Nikon? None. Aptina isn't the only sensor vendor in the market. Aptina needed Nikon far more than Nikon needed Aptina.

No, don't blame the 1 system on Aptina. The blame lies solely with Nikon and their extremely short-sighted desire to protect their APS-C/FF DSLR sales. This is why they decided to handicap the 1 system with a tiny 1" sensor-- to make it less competitive with their DSLRs. Very shortsighted thinking on Nikon's parts. It's like Kodak putting in a half-assed effort with their digital cameras because they wanted to protect their film sales-- in spite of being one of the early developers of digital photography. That's what happens when you cling to the past and ignore the future.

Link | Posted on Aug 3, 2017 at 22:37 UTC

The Nikon 1's mistakes all stem from Nikon's stubborn and short-sighted desire to protect their DSLRs. That's why they gave the Nikon 1 a tiny 1" sensor and gave it a non-standard flash hotshoe. Dumb, dumb, dumb. A lot of money down the drain. Nikon made 13 lenses for this system! Was it really worth it? No, it was a total waste, because it's now a dead-end system. This was short-term thinking, not long-term thinking. This was like Kodak clinging to film and not wanting to admit that digital was the future.

Just imagine if Nikon had made the 1 system an APS-C/FF system from the very beginning. They would be in a much better position for the mirrorless era of photography. But instead, they'll now have to start from scratch with an APS-C/FF mirrorless system, and they'll be way behind other mirrorless systems.

Link | Posted on Aug 3, 2017 at 22:29 UTC as 8th comment | 2 replies
On article Video: See exactly how a mechanical DSLR shutter works (91 comments in total)
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Sean65: If you've ever had the pleasure of standing amongst 50 to 100 press photographers and listening to the magical symphony of high speed shutter releases you would shave your hipster beards, ditch your mirrorless and revel in the sound of mechanical shutterdom forever!

@mgblack74 - More and more mirrorless cameras are giving us the option of electronic shutters. Furthermore, for those mirrorless cameras that do have shutters, they lack the "clack" of a reflex mirror flipping up and down, which also adds quite a bit of noise. I have a Fuji X-E1, and even with a mechanical shutter it's quieter than my DSLR because it doesn't have a flipping mirror.

Link | Posted on Aug 2, 2017 at 00:14 UTC
On article Video: See exactly how a mechanical DSLR shutter works (91 comments in total)
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Sean65: If you've ever had the pleasure of standing amongst 50 to 100 press photographers and listening to the magical symphony of high speed shutter releases you would shave your hipster beards, ditch your mirrorless and revel in the sound of mechanical shutterdom forever!

That's not a "magical symphony". That's the sound of the soon-to-be past. I prefer a quieter world. Thankfully, technology is steadily allowing us to move towards a quieter world that isn't filled with so much un-necessarily noise pollution.

Link | Posted on Aug 1, 2017 at 13:35 UTC
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Majauskasson: Nice ad for Sony but resolution C+. You'll see this clip on their ads soon. Any half decent camera will do the same. Sony outbid Nikon and others for the rights and NASA can use the cash. Let's remember the NASA LRO circling the moon at 25 miles up photoshopped the non-existent fake Apollo landers in to keep the gullible Apollo nuts happy. If you believe the blobs are landers remember that amateurs with backyard telescopes got excellent resolution too. DP has shown these. NASA has been and still is scamming the world. It cancelled the manned Mars mission because it "can't protect astronauts from space radiation". Well, what about Apollo? How did they manage it? Using 1960s technology then it was no problem - 6 men to the moon in 3 years. Now with powerful computers NASA is stymied. Space is tough. NASA lied and created a fantasy Apollo story many believe to this day.

@Majauskasson - Wow, you sound like an extremely insecure, bitter, paranoid person.

Link | Posted on Jul 28, 2017 at 22:55 UTC
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cdembrey: Phone-like touch-screens are the future. Just looks at the expensive Sekonic Light Meters and the heads-up display of military aircraft. Speed and efficiency always trump cool—but snark rules on comment forums.

@Karroly - It's not as if blind people had a great time with phones that had physical keyboards either! The reality is that your "blind people" argument is rather silly because there are are lot of things that blind people struggle with. You can't say, "Cars aren't the future because blind people can't drive."

Some day, we'll probably have voice-controlled smart cameras. You just say, "Camera: set aperture 2.8, shutter 1/60th" and the camera complies. I have an Amazon Echo at home, and I love voice control. It's amazing technology.

Link | Posted on Jul 18, 2017 at 15:15 UTC
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ChickenBalls: Hey look! it's a Leica!
I don't care it's more expensive and not as good as Sony a6500 as long as it got that red dot.

I have an A6000, but I can understand why someone with the means might want to buy a Leica TL2. I have a female friend who is an extremely successful business woman, and she has a collection of $5000+ handbags! I have male friends who collect equally expensive wrist watches. Some people have the money, and they like fancier things.

Link | Posted on Jul 18, 2017 at 15:06 UTC
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cdembrey: Phone-like touch-screens are the future. Just looks at the expensive Sekonic Light Meters and the heads-up display of military aircraft. Speed and efficiency always trump cool—but snark rules on comment forums.

@Hugo808 - "And I don't want fingerprints all over my screen"

Yep, that's why smartphones and tablets never caught on and were a total failure. Not.

@Karroly - "Touchscreen-only devices are not the future for everyone : ask blind people if they can use a smartphone..."

That's a really, really ridiculous thing to say, considering that blind people don't do photography! A blind person isn't in the market for a camera to begin with, so why would a touchscreen be an issue for them? Yes, we certainly can't have touchscreens on cameras because it just wouldn't work for the huge population of blind photographers out there!

Link | Posted on Jul 18, 2017 at 05:48 UTC

I want my laptop to have an SD slot. I don't think that's too much to ask. I don't want to have to use a dongle to offload an SD card. I loved the day I got my first Canon DSLR that used SD cards instead of CF cards. Hallelujah, no more external card reader! I love, love, love being able to plug my SD card directly into my laptop. As a Macbook Pro user, I'm very reluctant to move to a new MBP that lacks an SD slot. I would not mind moving to a Windows laptop (with an SD slot), at least for travel and mobile use. And the SD slot would not be the only factor. Ports, touchscreen, and money would also be significant factors.

Link | Posted on Jul 17, 2017 at 20:39 UTC as 340th comment
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RedFox88: This must mean the V/J cams are dead

@Roland Karlsson - You seriously need to relax. You're getting overly obsessive about parsing such vague statements that are, even worse, translated from Japanese. General, vague marketing-speak, using catchy phrases such as "smartphone generation", spoken in Japanese, then translated to English, then obsessed over by lonely guys from Sweden on the internet...sounds like the perfect storm of totally unproductive obsession-fodder to me. I think a whole lot of nothing was said in those statements. I'd rather wait until an official product statement was released by Nikon.

Link | Posted on Jul 16, 2017 at 19:55 UTC
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calxn: Interesting. Read the quotes again. "For a smartphone generation, we put out a very Nikon-ish mirrorless camera" and "On the other hand, we need fun"

That doesn't sound like they're intending to compete with Sony, Fuji, and Canon. Sounds like they're going to poop another Nikon 1 camera that will be "fun" and geared towards "a smartphone generation". If sure doesn't sound like an APS-C or FF mirrorless.

@Roland Karlsson - In the Japanese language, plural nouns are tricky. For example, the word "cat" in japanese:

ねこ = neko = a cat/the cat/the cats/some cats/cats in general

Most nouns in Japanese don't have a plural form. So your conclusion that "It is a camera and not a new system. It is a small sensor camera" is not quite certain from this statement. It's not as "clear" as we might think.

At any rate, Nikon definitely needs something. But I don't think a "fun" camera for the "smartphone generation" is going to do it. Canon tried something "fun" for the "smartphone generation" called the Powershot N that went nowhere.

https://www.dpreview.com/articles/9919019105/canon-powershot-n-first-impressions

Sure, it didn't have a 1" sensor. But sticking a 1" sensor into the N wouldn't have helped its sales. And it would have just driven up the price. If Nikon wants to try the same thing with a 1" sensor, I don't think they are going to find greater success than Canon did.

Link | Posted on Jul 16, 2017 at 18:36 UTC
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RedFox88: This must mean the V/J cams are dead

@Roland Karlsson - First of all, that quote is a rough translation from Japanese. In the Japanese language, most nouns (with the exception of nouns referring to people) have no plural form. So what you interpret as a singular "one camera" may just as easily be referring to more than one camera. Translation is a tricky thing. And that's basically what you're basing your argument on, as being "quite clear". Not smart!

I don't think the wording is so much meant to "mislead people". It's partly because they want to be somewhat vague about their plans, and also partly because of the translation of this vague statement. To draw any definitive, "clear", conclusions from this rough translation of an intentionally vague statement is simply foolish and ridiculous.

Time to take your medication, Roland. You're getting quite obsessive about this. As I said earlier, the statement is vague, at best. No need to get so wound up about it.

Link | Posted on Jul 16, 2017 at 18:17 UTC
On article Leica M10 1.9.4.0 firmware arrives with major bug fix (59 comments in total)
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munro harrap: I have never seen a digital M in use, ever. I read this and find it is troubled because its UHS II is a no go whereas all recent machines use UHSII with total impunity and the old ones I have from 2004-5 work with but no faster than UHSI. Which means one thing only: Leitz are incompetent digicam designers.

What is the least you can pay for this thing with a lens to entitle you to these problems??!! Answers on a postcard please to......

You don't buy an M to have the latest and greatest in technology. M's have never been about speeds and feeds and specs. The same goes for film Leica M's. That's not what Leica M's are about. After all, a Leica M7 film body still sells for $4550, new. That's for a camera with no AF, no advanced metering, no auto film advance...basically none of the basic features that can be found on much lower cost modern film SLRs. So based on this, should we conclude that Leica are "incompetent film cam designers"? No, because Leica M's have never been about the latest technology or specs.

Link | Posted on Jul 16, 2017 at 17:08 UTC
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