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On article DPReview TV: Sony a7C hands-on preview (49 comments in total)
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Mr Bolton: It's expensive, meh ergos, the kit lens is Toneh equivalent to my Fuji's kit lens (the 18-55mm f2.8-4) except slower; resolution's the same, noise looks absolutely no better at ISO 5000.. Even in the Sony ecosystem, you can do better for cheaper.

Props for the big battery and better AF. You know, like the X-T4 *at the same price* with its far better video and superior IBIS and Fuji colors and ergos and film sims..

Sorry, but what is the draw of this thing, again?

PS almost forgot, lame viewfinder.

Aside from Leica M bodies, this is the only side-viewfinder FF ILC in the market. I greatly prefer side viewfinders. That, combined with the compact size and light weight, will likely appeal to many.

Link | Posted on Sep 21, 2020 at 16:55 UTC
On article DPReview TV: Sony a7C review (416 comments in total)
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toneh_bashar: Very hyped camera indeed, and the talk of the town after release. What I am looking for is exactly such a camera from Fuji. So, basically a new xe-4. I am guessing it would be a much more 'loveable' camera, because I always felt Sony to be more of a work equipment rather than a camera.

@Menneisyys - that's exactly what I have on my X-E1: a nicely machined grip with integrated Arca plate. The downside is that all that extra metal adds extra weight. I would love it if Fuji simply beefed up the grip and made it similar to the X-T4's. The existing flat, hard X-E grip is really lacking.

Link | Posted on Sep 20, 2020 at 21:13 UTC
On article Sony a7C review: Compact size, big sensor image quality (2202 comments in total)
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Terrano: Problem with full-frame Mirrorless is the cameras is that the camera bodies are small but the lenses huge so not the best travel alternative.

A lot of people will be using the new kit lens with the A7C for travel. That's certainly not a big lens. Plus, there are plenty of reasonably-sized FF cameras in the market. Last year I did a lot of travel photography on my A7II with primarily two lenses: the Samyang AF 24/2.8 FE and Samyang AF 35/2.8. Both of those lenses are absolutely tiny!

Link | Posted on Sep 20, 2020 at 01:20 UTC
On article Sony a7C sample gallery (DPReview TV) (238 comments in total)
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entoman: Crap viewfinder = crap camera.
Simple as.

@entoman - "The fact that almost all photographers bought SLRs would tend to indicate that the vast majority of people believe that an eye-level viewfinder is by far the best option for most scenarios."

SLRs offered non-reversed TTL viewing and framing. That was a big advantage over other cameras which either offered a reversed TTL imaged or no TTL at all. These days, both EVFs and rear LCDs offer non-reversed TTL viewing and framing.

Link | Posted on Sep 19, 2020 at 20:30 UTC
On article DPReview TV: Sony a7C review (416 comments in total)
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Claire Dupuis: Those super slow kit lenses are absolute crap and manufacturers should be shamed for putting them out. Who in the world wants a 5.6 max aperture lens that also has super limited zoom range ?? No dice, Sony (and Nikon did the same silly thing with the new kit lens of the Z5, thanks but not thanks I buy all my cameras body only).

Also keep in mind that kit lenses are meant to be "starter" lenses, something just to get people started shooting. You can always change your lens or upgrade your lens later. Having a slow kit lens isn't the end of the world.

Link | Posted on Sep 19, 2020 at 18:58 UTC
On article DPReview TV: Sony a7C review (416 comments in total)
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Claire Dupuis: Those super slow kit lenses are absolute crap and manufacturers should be shamed for putting them out. Who in the world wants a 5.6 max aperture lens that also has super limited zoom range ?? No dice, Sony (and Nikon did the same silly thing with the new kit lens of the Z5, thanks but not thanks I buy all my cameras body only).

Please stop being so dramatic. Kit lenses are probably the most widely used lenses in all of ILC photography, and people are taking perfectly fine photos with them.

Btw, I guess you're a big fan of Canon's new fixed f/11 lenses?
https://www.dpreview.com/news/4305105543/canon-introduces-rf-600mm-and-800mm-f11-is-stm-lenses-teleconverters

As for the "super limited zoom range" of the Sony 28-60, it really depends on what part of the zoom range that you mostly shoot in. I would say that 28-60 hits the zoom range that most people shoot in. Also, the narrower zoom range is likely narrower than the customary 28-80 range because this allows the lens to be more compact, which I think many users will appreciate. It makes the whole camera kit more compact and portable. I think many people will understand that trade-off.

Link | Posted on Sep 19, 2020 at 18:54 UTC
On article Sony a7C sample gallery (DPReview TV) (238 comments in total)
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entoman: Crap viewfinder = crap camera.
Simple as.

@entoman - "you seriously think a photograph can be composed and the scene analysed quickly when using a little monitor"

Of course you can. People do it every day. The only real issue with using a rear LCD is whether there is direct sunlight on the monitor obscuring your ability to see the scene. But I usually just shade the screen with my body, head or brim of my hat in such cases. Aside from that, I don't think I've ever had a problem composing and analysing a scene with the rear LCD. Like I said, people have doing it for years now. Of course, if that's not your preference, then that's a different matter. But you can't make the argument that it can't be done or that no one does it, because nothing could be further from the truth.

Link | Posted on Sep 19, 2020 at 18:40 UTC
On article Hands-on with the new Sony a7C (289 comments in total)
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Dons1000: The funny thing about all this is that there was never anything magical about manufacturing a smaller FF camera. Although the sensor is bigger than an APS-c sensor - it always could easily fit in a smaller body. It’s just sales people at the camera companies crunching the numbers on what to release for maximum profit. In a few years there is nothing to prevent a company that doesn’t have an Aps-C line to worry about canibalizing profits from - to release a $600 FF camera for,the masses. Cell phone cameras continue to improve as they have in leaps and bounds. The lower to mid level digital camera market has already been declared dead by Canon, Nikon and Sony.

Making a smaller FF camera and making a CHEAPER (ie, $600) FF camera are two different things. Additionally, cameras sell in relatively smaller volumes today than they did in years past, so camera manufacturers can't make up for lower profit margins by selling huge volumes of cameras like they used to. So I don't think you are going to see any *newly* introduced $600 FF cameras any time after soon. Don't hold your breath. Even the Sony A7II, which was introduced back in 2014, is still selling for $899. That's a 6 year old camera! The original A7 only dropped down to $799 before it was discontinued in December 2019. That camera dates back to 2013!

If anything, lower sales volumes will keep camera prices higher as camera manufacturers try to eek out as much profit from every FF camera sold.

Link | Posted on Sep 19, 2020 at 04:12 UTC
On article Sony a7C review: Compact size, big sensor image quality (2202 comments in total)
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pablomiami: I don't know why nobody's comparing this camera with the original A7, which, as far as I remember, was marketed exactly as this "new concept" of small size with big sensor. Then quietly and gradually Sony started to increase it's size because the concept just didn't work well in real life.
Now they're trying to sell this idea again with a new name..

@TRU - The weight difference between the A7C and A7III is 141g. The weight difference between a Canon 90D and Canon Rebel T6i is 146g.

https://camerasize.com/compare/#828,598

Are you seriously trying to tell us that no one would be able to feel the weight difference between a 90D and Rebel T6? Seriously?

Link | Posted on Sep 18, 2020 at 03:13 UTC
On article Sony a7C review: Compact size, big sensor image quality (2202 comments in total)
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pablomiami: I don't know why nobody's comparing this camera with the original A7, which, as far as I remember, was marketed exactly as this "new concept" of small size with big sensor. Then quietly and gradually Sony started to increase it's size because the concept just didn't work well in real life.
Now they're trying to sell this idea again with a new name..

@TRU - "@T3: Your weight analogy doesn't hold water: can't just take something like a D size battery and say, yeah, if you taped it onto the A7c you would notice it...because the weight is not distributed."

Of course you can feel the difference in weight (141g). I can. How do I know this? Because I went from a Canon 40D (magnesium metal body) to a Canon 60D (polycarbonate body). That was a 67g weight reduction, and I could feel the difference (which I appreciated). The 60D simply felt lighter because it WAS lighter! The weight difference between A7C and A7III is more than DOUBLE the difference between the 40D and 60D!

Link | Posted on Sep 18, 2020 at 03:00 UTC
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justinwonnacott: ZINK prints do not last.

@march hare - pictures have value to the people in and associated with the photo. It doesn't matter if everyone else in the world doesn't look at them. That's how things were BEFORE the internet: no one cared about a photo of my grandmother other than the people in my family. Is that such a bad thing? If I take a picture of my cat, I don't care if its something that "no one looks at" other than me.

Link | Posted on Sep 17, 2020 at 23:51 UTC
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justinwonnacott: ZINK prints do not last.

@Rob-in-Alberta
"maybe a good thing?

i’m sure somepeople our three wish a lot of photos didn’t last..."

Self-destructing photos? Like Mission Imposssible?

Actually, it would be interesting if someone created an image file format that decayed over time or self-destructed/self-corrupted after a set amount of time.

Link | Posted on Sep 17, 2020 at 23:29 UTC
On article Hands-on with the new Sony a7C (289 comments in total)
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Oldbike: I think this camera is the evolution of the A6xxx series and spells the death of the APS-C sensor in the Sony lineup. This camera seems to be an assemblage of left over parts. Like the A6000, this camera will work well enough and be priced lower ( but not by much) than the A7III. Add to this, some people prefer the A6xxx body over the A7x body, I believe this camera will sell in good numbers. Not for me but I hope it does well, choice is good.

@Oldbike - "As to FF being unprofitable at lower prices; Canon and Sony have proven with the RP and A7II that you can make a profit selling full frame at APSC and m4/3 prices."

They are selling them at APS-C prices, but that says nothing about their profitability. Canon RP was introduced in February 2019 at $1299 and now sells for $999. Sony's A6400, introduced in January 2019 at $900 is still selling at $900. It's questionable how profitable the RP has been for Canon, considering that it is now selling for 23% off its original asking price while the A6400 is still selling at its list price. As for the Sony A7II, that camera was released all the way back in November 2014 (nearly 6 years ago!), so it had lots of time to turn a profit and only after so many years did it finally drop down to its current price of $900. The A7II is certainly not a camera that was just released last year!

And I'm pretty sure neither of these cameras sell in the same volumes as many APS-C cameras.

Link | Posted on Sep 17, 2020 at 23:05 UTC
On article Hands-on with the new Sony a7C (289 comments in total)
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Oldbike: I think this camera is the evolution of the A6xxx series and spells the death of the APS-C sensor in the Sony lineup. This camera seems to be an assemblage of left over parts. Like the A6000, this camera will work well enough and be priced lower ( but not by much) than the A7III. Add to this, some people prefer the A6xxx body over the A7x body, I believe this camera will sell in good numbers. Not for me but I hope it does well, choice is good.

@Oldbike - "T3, On APS-c, one of the major complaints APS-c users have is the lack of attention paid to them by their manufacturer."

But the real question is: who is complaining? I think that's mainly a minority of consumers. Most consumers are happily buying $500-700 APS-C kits and are not too concerned about having a massive selection of APS-C lenses. Most people just need a wide zoom, a standard zoom, a tele zoom, and a couple primes.

Like I said, the expectations of the APS-C market (that is, the bulk of APS-C buyers) is quite modest...and for the most part, fulfilled. Sure, on these forums, there are some people who are crying bloody murder because there is a particular lens that is not available as an APS-specific lens. But in reality, those people are a minority. The overwhelming majority of APS-C buyers only need a modest handful of lenses, and those common lenses are available to them.

Link | Posted on Sep 17, 2020 at 22:53 UTC
On article Hands-on with the new Sony a7C (289 comments in total)
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flip 21: This camera is a crazy camera. No 6K, No 4K 60, No 4K 120fps, no 1080p 240p, the same soft 1080p, the same crap stabilization, as the A7 III... The sony A7 III should had a Fully articulated LCD in the first place when it was released. So what is the point of this camera, now, that there is the Sony A7s III? This is just an A7 III with a fully articulated LCD... a small body, with huge lenses.. and huge price

@flip 21 - I love travel photography. I've traveled extensively. After COVID, I look forward to getting back to travel. Over the last few years, I've done most of my travel photography with an A6000-- very light and compact. Then I got an A7II. I like FF, but I still prefer the smaller size of the A6000-- especially for travel. The A7C now gives me the best of both: a FF sensor in a body not much larger than an A6XXX. And the A7C is 90g lighter than my A7II (141g lighter than the A7III), which is about the weight of my Samyang 35/2.8 (85.6g). So the A7C with 35/2.8 attached will weigh the same as my A7II body alone and will be 1" shorter in height. These are all positives for me. That's why I'm looking forward to replacing my A7II with the A7C.

And finally, neither the A7II nor the A7III offer size-mount EVF, which I greatly prefer over center-hump EVF. I just find side-mount EVF a lot more comfortable to shoot with. And it allows me to keep my left eye open when assessing a scene.

Link | Posted on Sep 17, 2020 at 21:34 UTC
On article Hands-on with the new Sony a7C (289 comments in total)
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Oldbike: I think this camera is the evolution of the A6xxx series and spells the death of the APS-C sensor in the Sony lineup. This camera seems to be an assemblage of left over parts. Like the A6000, this camera will work well enough and be priced lower ( but not by much) than the A7III. Add to this, some people prefer the A6xxx body over the A7x body, I believe this camera will sell in good numbers. Not for me but I hope it does well, choice is good.

"It remains to be seen if there is enough profitability in APS-C and M4/3 for their survival in a Cellphone world."

The profitability lies in the fact that manufacturers can sell APS-C cameras for $500 and still turn a profit. They can't do that with FF.

"With the exception of Fujifilm, Mfg.'s have put their development money into FF."

The nice thing about APS-C is that manufacturers don't have to pour much development money into it because expectations from APS-C consumers are not as demanding as in the FF market. And a lot of the developments that APS-C enjoys are trickle-down from FF development. So I don't think APS-C is nearly as development resource-intensive as FF is. That makes it easier to keep around.

Link | Posted on Sep 17, 2020 at 21:19 UTC
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justinwonnacott: ZINK prints do not last.

@march hare - Actually, the point of wanting images to last is *because* humans don't last forever. Just imagine if all the photos in the world only lasted as long as the subjects in the photos lasted. A lot of the value of photos is in the fact that they *do* last longer than their subjects or those who took them,

Link | Posted on Sep 17, 2020 at 21:11 UTC
On article Hands-on with the new Sony a7C (289 comments in total)
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Oldbike: I think this camera is the evolution of the A6xxx series and spells the death of the APS-C sensor in the Sony lineup. This camera seems to be an assemblage of left over parts. Like the A6000, this camera will work well enough and be priced lower ( but not by much) than the A7III. Add to this, some people prefer the A6xxx body over the A7x body, I believe this camera will sell in good numbers. Not for me but I hope it does well, choice is good.

@Oldbike - APS-C will survive because manufacturers will maintain FF as their high-value products that command a higher price. The last thing they want to do is sell FF cameras at APS-C bargain-basement prices. That's what APS-C is for. As long as manufacturers have APS-C cameras to fill the lower price points, they don't need to drop FF cameras to those levels. But if APS-C goes away, they will either have to drop FF cameras down to those price points or kiss those lower price-point sales good-bye. They don't want to do either one. So they will keep APS-C. And it's not a tough decision to make since APS-C cameras still outsell FF cameras by a healthy margin. APS-C still remains the most widely sold format in ILC by far, so it mystifies me that anyone would wonder if APS-C "survives". FF gets a lot of headlines and attention, but boring ol' APS-C is still what sells the most, by far. And as "deep7" points out, sub-FF formats are still the most suitable for most photographers.

Link | Posted on Sep 17, 2020 at 21:02 UTC
On article Sony a7C review: Compact size, big sensor image quality (2202 comments in total)
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pablomiami: I don't know why nobody's comparing this camera with the original A7, which, as far as I remember, was marketed exactly as this "new concept" of small size with big sensor. Then quietly and gradually Sony started to increase it's size because the concept just didn't work well in real life.
Now they're trying to sell this idea again with a new name..

@Thoughts R Us - "whether you are comparing this to A7 or A7III, or whichever Sony alpha body, you are talking relatively insignificant differences in terms of a few mm or a hundred grams or so."

The weight difference versus an A7III is 141g, which is roughly equivalent to a D size battery (135g), a major league baseball (148g) or a billiard ball (155g). These are all noticeable amts of weight on a camera body. So, tape any of these things to an A7C, and you have roughly the same weight of an A7III.

As for size, it's 1" shorter in height. And visually, just having that flat top on the A7C makes the camera look sleeker, stealthier, simpler.

But also keep in mind that a lot of people like side-mount EVF, like me. I still own a Fuji X-E1 and Sony A6000, which both have side EVFs. I love side EVF, and have been hoping that someday someone would make FF versions of either of these cameras. Well, the A7C is what I've been waiting for. It being smaller and lighter is just a bonus.

Link | Posted on Sep 17, 2020 at 20:15 UTC
On article Hands-on with the new Sony a7C (289 comments in total)
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flip 21: This camera is a crazy camera. No 6K, No 4K 60, No 4K 120fps, no 1080p 240p, the same soft 1080p, the same crap stabilization, as the A7 III... The sony A7 III should had a Fully articulated LCD in the first place when it was released. So what is the point of this camera, now, that there is the Sony A7s III? This is just an A7 III with a fully articulated LCD... a small body, with huge lenses.. and huge price

@flip 21 - Sony are going in both directions: going smaller *and* larger. Why would a manufacturer do this? Probably because there are some who prefer smaller and some who prefer larger. So the remedy would obviously be to offer different models to address both types of customers. You just have to remember that just because YOU have a certain preference doesn't mean that someone else has the SAME preference. Most camera manufacturers eventually offer cameras of varying sizes to meet diverse preferences. It's not a one-size-fits-all world.

As for Sony specifically, you have to remember that the A6XXX bodies have been highly successful for Sony. (Yes, those are cameras with interchangeable lenses, too.) So it makes sense that they would adopt a similar body size and form factor for FF. Why not? It's not as if Sony is taking away one of their larger A7 bodies because they introduced the A7C! The A7C is IN ADDITION TO the bodies they already offer.

Link | Posted on Sep 17, 2020 at 19:56 UTC
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