TrojMacReady

TrojMacReady

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On article Photokina 2016: Hands-on with Sony a99 II (411 comments in total)
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Interestingness: PRE-ORDERS NOW OPEN FOR IT! Time to walk your talk guys. On the weekend the Canon M5 made the Amazon Top 100 but has now fallen off, the initial pre-order'ers have pre-ordered. Can the A99-II break the Top 100 on Amazon?

https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Electronics-Interchangeable-Lens-Cameras/zgbs/electronics/12556502011/ref=zg_bs_nav_e_3_281052#1

The A58 is at 100th position as of posting this. Surely with all the noise and how this is the death warrant for Canon, it can break 100th place? The Canon 5D-IV has been hovering in the Top 4 to Top 10 for quite awhile now, it's sitting at 6th as I post this. It's also the most expensive camera on the list as well so don't be using cost as an excuse.

Vote with your wallets! And don't feel bad if you choke at the buy button, apparently you're in good company. A bunch of 'definitely gonna buy it right away' folks over on SAR are now coming up with excuses why they aren't. Everything changes when rubber has to hit the road eh?

So basically, you're pointing to information over a long period from the same source in relation to the 5DmkIII and compare that to A) a camera that isn't too relevant here because it's not part of the topic (A99) and B) a single/double data point for the a99II.

And that data point proved to be "inconsequential in the big picture", within hours. Never mind the fact that even if Amazon is the largest Sony seller in the US (one could argue, that B&H has a thing to say about that for higher end cameras at least), the US isn't exactly the world market that Sony operates in. Asia is probably far more important to them by now, not in the least because it's a far larger camera market and one less traditional too.

Link | Posted on Sep 25, 2016 at 11:44 UTC
On article Photokina 2016: Hands-on with Sony a99 II (411 comments in total)
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Nigel Tafferham: The 'Hybrid Cross Type' AF is what I expected on the Canon DSLRs which have both external PDAF and on sensor DPAF, but AFAIK they do not - 1DXII & 5DIV.

If sufficient processing power (maybe not on 5DIV, no excuses for 1DXII) then it should not slow down very much the complete AF process - but maybe we will hear more about the Sony 'Hybrid Cross Type' and how speed relates to accuracy.

Looks like a nice expensive cam !! How about those mega buck lens though ???

All DSLR's (and SLR's for that matter) have a partially (in the center) semi-transparent main (flipping) mirror, to pass light to the secondary mirror underneath, which in turn bounces that light to the AF sensors and metering sensors at the bottom of those cameras.

The Canon pellicle mirrors bounced part of the light to the OVF and part to the film, SLT's bounce up to 30% of the light to the AF sensors and the rest to the main sensor. It's hard to say who was inspired by who here, since all implementations have fundamental functional differences and all use completely different materials (for the mirrors) to get there.

Link | Posted on Sep 23, 2016 at 17:01 UTC
On article Photokina 2016: Hands-on with Sony a99 II (411 comments in total)
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kobakokh: A99ii is great camera, of course. Just two problems are there - price of camera and not many really great new A-mount lenses for such high resolution sensor. I think Sony will produces soon that lenses, but, again, i think they will be very big size and very expensive... Also there are no third party manufacturers' lenses for A-mount now... And there are one little question: such fast camera usually want for sport photography, but without such high resolution, its not big problem, user can set low resolution or make crop, but for me its will be better if Sony will put in sport-like camera less resolution but highest iso effective sensor...

The 135mm is probably not going to be a good example to showcase its AF capabilities to begin with, because it has the old screw drive AF. It's in need of an update (and rumored to get one) in this regard (optically still good).

Link | Posted on Sep 23, 2016 at 16:53 UTC
On article Photokina 2016: Hands-on with Sony a99 II (411 comments in total)
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photog4u: So much for all of the prognosticators out there claiming the end of A mount. Not only is it not dead, it has set a new Benchmark.

"Who cares about the outdated stuff anyway :)."

Apparently you do, because for example that Sigma 150mm on your owners list, is still produced for the A mount too.

Link | Posted on Sep 23, 2016 at 15:17 UTC
On article Photokina 2016: Hands-on with Sony a99 II (411 comments in total)
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Mike FL: Regardless of the improvement sensor SNR, Sony Alpha lost 30% of the light which going to sensor right on the front.

Lost 30% of the light is all SONY Alpha about.

I'm not sure why we would compare different cameras from different makers to conclude anything about the effect of a Sony beamsplitter.

Here's a better comparison, SLT's left, non SLT's using the same (respectively from top to bottom the 24MP and 20MP APS-C) sensors right:
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison/fullscreen?attr18=lowlight&attr13_0=sony_slta77ii&attr13_1=sony_a6000&attr13_2=sony_slta58&attr13_3=sony_a3000&attr15_0=raw&attr15_1=raw&attr15_2=raw&attr15_3=raw&attr16_0=6400&attr16_1=6400&attr16_2=6400&attr16_3=6400&normalization=compare&widget=1&x=0.21874719786640667&y=0.9897657745829417

Link | Posted on Sep 23, 2016 at 14:49 UTC
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keeponkeepingon: tldr: barney trolls canon fanboys with a click bait title.

Sony adds better video but increased the time it takes to look at your picture from 22 to 36 seconds after a 4 second jpeg burst and you praise the former while not even mentioning the latter (A6300 review).

Canon does everything you asked, no holds barred puts everything from it's latest and greatest APS-C DSLR into a mirrorless, the best ever, equal footing with sony and it's a big ...... disappointment.
Wow.

ref from IR A6300 review: Buffer clearing after max-length bursts took some time even with a fast UHS-I SDHC card, though, ranging between 15 seconds after a max-length burst of RAW files, to a rather lengthy 36 seconds after a max-length burst of Large / Extra Fine JPEGs, and the camera won't let you adjust settings or view just-shot photos while the buffer is clearing.

" and your saying it's faster?"

Reading comprehension test failed. I never said such a thing, I said it's not really slower for the same type of use.

Again, you have the choice to use a higher quality, just like the uncompressed RAW on the A99II vs only compressed available on the A99. Choice = key. I'm surprised you feel the MP count is not "irrelevant". Or wait, it has to fit the agenda, so it is. ;-)
Let's see if this one fits the agenda: the A7II became slower after firmware update 2.0, because it can now shoot uncompressed RAW and you automatically set the camera to its highest quality, regardless.

Cool theory.

Link | Posted on Sep 23, 2016 at 14:44 UTC
On article Photokina 2016: Hands-on with Sony a99 II (411 comments in total)
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Mike FL: Regardless of the improvement sensor SNR, Sony Alpha lost 30% of the light which going to sensor right on the front.

Lost 30% of the light is all SONY Alpha about.

That's a bit of a fallacy, because no one suggested that shutters can't introduce vibration either. Both moving mirrors and shutters do. But a camera like the A7RII for example, can get rid of both. Even without the use of its full electronic shutter mode, the damping is pretty well controlled (especially compared to the older Sony shutters). The A99II seems to have inherited both its sensor and shutter, but there are conflicting reports whether it also has a full electronic shutter mode.

Link | Posted on Sep 23, 2016 at 12:10 UTC
On article Photokina 2016: Hands-on with Sony a99 II (411 comments in total)
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photog4u: So much for all of the prognosticators out there claiming the end of A mount. Not only is it not dead, it has set a new Benchmark.

Between both of them, they still make 55 lenses for the A mount.

Link | Posted on Sep 23, 2016 at 11:57 UTC
On article Canon EOS 5D Mark IV added to studio scene comparison (363 comments in total)
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Interestingness: It just keeps getting better and better with this new Canon 5D IV - holy smokes! Very solid performance with this 30MP sensor.

- the 85 1.8 is really holding up well
- all 4 of the cameras are crazy good at low ISO. If you get nose prints on your monitor trying pick out any difference, THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE!
- turning up the ISO up though & things change (i only check RAW) - the D810 really starts to get really noisy (relative to the others) at 3200 and its much more noticeable at 6400 rubbing away detail
- the A7R II is totally outgunned by the Canon! At ISO 6400 there is still plenty of detail in the Sony (its 42MP remember) but its shifting colour - the grey-black background is going green (at least on my monitor) and there is more noise. Above that when you go to crazy ISOs like 25,600 the Sony, Nikon and less so the 5D 3 are all noticably noisier and the Sony is doing wierd things like the whites are starting to glow, yet are still razor sharp on the Canon.

Impressive!

I didn't say that high ISO should not be judged under daylight lighting, since that's where many sports shooters still hit high ISO too. I said that if you want to compare low light high ISO performance, looking at a daylight simulation (light temperature) makes little sense. And even daylight sports shooters, will rarely go as high as ISO 25K.

And with daylight, I'm referring to any light that still has the sun up, even when hidden.

Link | Posted on Sep 23, 2016 at 11:53 UTC
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keeponkeepingon: tldr: barney trolls canon fanboys with a click bait title.

Sony adds better video but increased the time it takes to look at your picture from 22 to 36 seconds after a 4 second jpeg burst and you praise the former while not even mentioning the latter (A6300 review).

Canon does everything you asked, no holds barred puts everything from it's latest and greatest APS-C DSLR into a mirrorless, the best ever, equal footing with sony and it's a big ...... disappointment.
Wow.

ref from IR A6300 review: Buffer clearing after max-length bursts took some time even with a fast UHS-I SDHC card, though, ranging between 15 seconds after a max-length burst of RAW files, to a rather lengthy 36 seconds after a max-length burst of Large / Extra Fine JPEGs, and the camera won't let you adjust settings or view just-shot photos while the buffer is clearing.

"plus it's not relevant."

It's relevant if you suggest that the camera is made significantly slower, which is what you did. The fact is that it's not, for the same type of use.

You may soon be able complain that the A99II is slower than the A99 too when clearing RAW files from the buffer and leave out the detail that one number relates to compressed RAW and the other to uncompressed (never mind the MP count). But hey, that would be "irrelevant" info anyway. Quite ironic to use that word, when complaining that Dpreview leaves out key data for its tests.

TL;DR
Agenda confirmed.

Link | Posted on Sep 23, 2016 at 11:45 UTC
On article Photokina 2016: Hands-on with Sony a99 II (411 comments in total)
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raj varma: So many posts from folks complaining about limited A mount lenses. I best most of them just shoot with kit lens and have never need a Ziess A mount lens. I have and enjoy my 1.4 and 2.8 lenses and my images are only limited by my imagination- not lenses.

"The guy has more photographic knowledge in his little finger than most of do in our entire bodies."

Which is highlighted by the fact that after decades of being a photographer, he still wasn't aware what the term Reflex stands for in SLR's (he thought it refers to the movement of the mirror, uh, hello TLR, stop ruining his vast amount of knowledge).

His opinion of those 82 FF lenses, is nothing more than that.

Link | Posted on Sep 23, 2016 at 11:12 UTC
On article Photokina 2016: Hands-on with Sony a99 II (411 comments in total)
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Interestingness: PRE-ORDERS NOW OPEN FOR IT! Time to walk your talk guys. On the weekend the Canon M5 made the Amazon Top 100 but has now fallen off, the initial pre-order'ers have pre-ordered. Can the A99-II break the Top 100 on Amazon?

https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Electronics-Interchangeable-Lens-Cameras/zgbs/electronics/12556502011/ref=zg_bs_nav_e_3_281052#1

The A58 is at 100th position as of posting this. Surely with all the noise and how this is the death warrant for Canon, it can break 100th place? The Canon 5D-IV has been hovering in the Top 4 to Top 10 for quite awhile now, it's sitting at 6th as I post this. It's also the most expensive camera on the list as well so don't be using cost as an excuse.

Vote with your wallets! And don't feel bad if you choke at the buy button, apparently you're in good company. A bunch of 'definitely gonna buy it right away' folks over on SAR are now coming up with excuses why they aren't. Everything changes when rubber has to hit the road eh?

It's so quiet now. What's next: only this week, next week it's gone, these short interval Amazon "statistics" need to be monitored over a longer period to be telling!

Yeah, which begs the question why "Interestingness"
bothers sharing them in the first place. Never mind the fact that I could care less how well the bestselling McDonalds food sells and how those profits benefit the quality and thus the consumer.... *shrug*

Link | Posted on Sep 23, 2016 at 10:49 UTC
On article Photokina 2016: Hands-on with Sony a99 II (411 comments in total)
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kobakokh: A99ii is great camera, of course. Just two problems are there - price of camera and not many really great new A-mount lenses for such high resolution sensor. I think Sony will produces soon that lenses, but, again, i think they will be very big size and very expensive... Also there are no third party manufacturers' lenses for A-mount now... And there are one little question: such fast camera usually want for sport photography, but without such high resolution, its not big problem, user can set low resolution or make crop, but for me its will be better if Sony will put in sport-like camera less resolution but highest iso effective sensor...

@ HFML:
"isn't the 12fps only available in a mode, freezing the AF at the first frame?"

No, it allows AF+AE with 12fps, as demonstrated with examples during the presentation.

Link | Posted on Sep 23, 2016 at 10:40 UTC
On article Photokina 2016: Hands-on with Sony a99 II (411 comments in total)
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Mike FL: Regardless of the improvement sensor SNR, Sony Alpha lost 30% of the light which going to sensor right on the front.

Lost 30% of the light is all SONY Alpha about.

It's positioned under a 60 degree angle, but the results are similar.

Link | Posted on Sep 23, 2016 at 10:36 UTC
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Tequila MockingjayBird: Can I flip up the SLT mirror and use it like the A7 with the on sensor PDAF?

No, the mirror is larger than a moving one and extends beyond the mount/throat when flipped up for cleaning. In part because of the different angle and in part because it requires a surrounding frame for structural integrity (it's thin like foil, though not nearly as delicate as the one found in Canon's old pellicle cameras)

Link | Posted on Sep 23, 2016 at 05:58 UTC
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Spongemac: tempting, but at ~30% light diverted to autofocus, I wonder its low light performance. a99 (previous version) low light performance wasn't too impressive according to dxomark. thats important to me for poorly lit indoor shots.

30% on the log2 scale equates to 0.5 EV. Looking at Dxomark measurements between Sony cameras with and without the beamsplitter while employing the exact same sensor, we see differences ranging between 0.33 and 0.5 EV, depending on the cameras you compare. Which is in line with German lab measurements of the SLT mirror some years as ago, which came to a 20 to 30 / 80 to 70 ratio over the visible light spectrum for a 60 degree angle (as used here).

It doesn't really impact the maximum DR or color depth at low ISO (if not limited by shutterspeed) , since a slightly longer shutterspeed can compensate.

Link | Posted on Sep 23, 2016 at 05:50 UTC
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DamianFI: So, what does this have that my 7RII doesn't?
Is it just the ability to shoot at 12fps? (which is pretty cool given all those pixels).

I'd like my 7RII to be faster, operationally, I don't shoot sports so don't need the burst rate to be higher.

I have just skimmed through the heap of text and can't see much different.
It's cool that they are keeping A mount alive, but apart from the 1.8/135, I see no point.

Having more direct controls (including that joystick for AF selection and quick navigation, also the silent control ring at the front and top LCD) is part of better ergonomics, as is the more substantial grip on the camera itself, that will also fit the pinky for example.

The A99II is rated at 390 shots (CIPA) using the EVF, the A7RII at 290 shots. Using the LCD that's respectively 490 vs 340 shots. This is also a result of the larger battery and the gap widens when you add the optional (A77II) vertical battery grip vs the OEM grip for the A7RII.

Link | Posted on Sep 21, 2016 at 08:59 UTC
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MikeFairbanks: I read as much as I could, but didn't see if there was a silent shooting mode like the mirrorless A7s line. Even if it slowed everything down it would still be a nice option for those of us who need no click at all during various events.

Anyone see anything I missed? Any silent shutter mode?

This is where the flicker reduction should help too (exposure for peak brightness during light cycle).

Link | Posted on Sep 20, 2016 at 17:26 UTC
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Joe Blown: What a lame article. Disappointed that Canon didn't release this camera two years ago. You're excited by the Samsung camera????? Go for it. I'm sure Samsung's got some hot cameras coming out - S7 :)

Why write about Canon if you're so in love with Sony. Move on ... Sheesh, or get some therapy.

A bit short sighted. The main reason why Samsung was bleeding in the camera market, is because they were entering a mature market. It's hard to get noticed, even with unique features (of which many do work as advertised and are helpful to many, contrary to the suggestion and generalization above). Not to mention the chicken/egg issue: camera development vs lens line development. There's always one area lacking when new, compared to the competition.

Meaning, the addition of leading edge technology, doesn't have to be a reason for bleeding. See Sony. Without it, they probably wouldn't exist anymore, with it, they earned credits and (more $$$ paying) customers.

Link | Posted on Sep 20, 2016 at 12:58 UTC
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keeponkeepingon: tldr: barney trolls canon fanboys with a click bait title.

Sony adds better video but increased the time it takes to look at your picture from 22 to 36 seconds after a 4 second jpeg burst and you praise the former while not even mentioning the latter (A6300 review).

Canon does everything you asked, no holds barred puts everything from it's latest and greatest APS-C DSLR into a mirrorless, the best ever, equal footing with sony and it's a big ...... disappointment.
Wow.

ref from IR A6300 review: Buffer clearing after max-length bursts took some time even with a fast UHS-I SDHC card, though, ranging between 15 seconds after a max-length burst of RAW files, to a rather lengthy 36 seconds after a max-length burst of Large / Extra Fine JPEGs, and the camera won't let you adjust settings or view just-shot photos while the buffer is clearing.

"but increased the time it takes to look at your picture from 22 to 36 seconds after a 4 second jpeg burst"

Not if you select the same jpeg quality. The A6300 adds "extra fine", which leads to larger files and thus longer clearing times, IF you decide to use it. Not sure why you left that critical part out of the IR quote, unless it had to fit an agenda.

Link | Posted on Sep 20, 2016 at 12:52 UTC
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