roustabout66

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roustabout66: This can not be good news for Sony cameras or the people who own them. All these years of pouring money trying to get market share (wasn't Minolta #3 when Sony bought them) and STILL #3 with about half of Nikon's share and 1/4 of Canon's share. No wonder Sony CEO Kaz Hirai did not even mention cameras as a profit center for Sony in the future:

"According to Hirai, that leaves Sony with three main businesses at its core :

Sony Pictures Entertainment, the hit-or-miss Hollywood studio that just fired Amy Pascal after being hacked to bits at the end of last year.

The PlayStation division, which has so far won the next-gen console race with the PS4 but yet to define a clear mobile strategy; PlayStation Mobile is all but ignored, and the Vita is a beautifully noble failure.

Selling image sensors to Apple for the iPhone."

https://www.theverge.com/2015/2/18/8063269/sony-electronics-future-selling-off-pc-smartphone-tv

"your" obviously trolling....too funny!

Well I think "you're" trolling and beginning to wonder if the days of Sony cameras are numbered. That would explain why they never bothered to invest in repair facilities....easier to get out.

Link | Posted on May 28, 2017 at 20:18 UTC
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roustabout66: This can not be good news for Sony cameras or the people who own them. All these years of pouring money trying to get market share (wasn't Minolta #3 when Sony bought them) and STILL #3 with about half of Nikon's share and 1/4 of Canon's share. No wonder Sony CEO Kaz Hirai did not even mention cameras as a profit center for Sony in the future:

"According to Hirai, that leaves Sony with three main businesses at its core :

Sony Pictures Entertainment, the hit-or-miss Hollywood studio that just fired Amy Pascal after being hacked to bits at the end of last year.

The PlayStation division, which has so far won the next-gen console race with the PS4 but yet to define a clear mobile strategy; PlayStation Mobile is all but ignored, and the Vita is a beautifully noble failure.

Selling image sensors to Apple for the iPhone."

https://www.theverge.com/2015/2/18/8063269/sony-electronics-future-selling-off-pc-smartphone-tv

Refusal to accept the truth shows what a blind fanboy you are. I think Sony never intended to be in the camera market very long, that is why they hired independent shops to fix their cameras instead on having their own. That way, when they pull out they will not have to liquidate all those buildings and pay those benefits to their workers.

Enjoy your Betamax

Link | Posted on May 28, 2017 at 19:42 UTC
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roustabout66: This can not be good news for Sony cameras or the people who own them. All these years of pouring money trying to get market share (wasn't Minolta #3 when Sony bought them) and STILL #3 with about half of Nikon's share and 1/4 of Canon's share. No wonder Sony CEO Kaz Hirai did not even mention cameras as a profit center for Sony in the future:

"According to Hirai, that leaves Sony with three main businesses at its core :

Sony Pictures Entertainment, the hit-or-miss Hollywood studio that just fired Amy Pascal after being hacked to bits at the end of last year.

The PlayStation division, which has so far won the next-gen console race with the PS4 but yet to define a clear mobile strategy; PlayStation Mobile is all but ignored, and the Vita is a beautifully noble failure.

Selling image sensors to Apple for the iPhone."

https://www.theverge.com/2015/2/18/8063269/sony-electronics-future-selling-off-pc-smartphone-tv

Did you read what the CEO said? So it is your contention that the Sony CEO's comments about Sony's future are irrelevant nonsense? I think you are starting to worry you just bought the next Sony Betamax!

Link | Posted on May 28, 2017 at 19:28 UTC
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roustabout66: This can not be good news for Sony cameras or the people who own them. All these years of pouring money trying to get market share (wasn't Minolta #3 when Sony bought them) and STILL #3 with about half of Nikon's share and 1/4 of Canon's share. No wonder Sony CEO Kaz Hirai did not even mention cameras as a profit center for Sony in the future:

"According to Hirai, that leaves Sony with three main businesses at its core :

Sony Pictures Entertainment, the hit-or-miss Hollywood studio that just fired Amy Pascal after being hacked to bits at the end of last year.

The PlayStation division, which has so far won the next-gen console race with the PS4 but yet to define a clear mobile strategy; PlayStation Mobile is all but ignored, and the Vita is a beautifully noble failure.

Selling image sensors to Apple for the iPhone."

https://www.theverge.com/2015/2/18/8063269/sony-electronics-future-selling-off-pc-smartphone-tv

osv How long did Sony maintain their VAIO computer and cellphone divisions after they did not meet profit marks? I believe the sales for their standard ILC cameras have been so disappointing they folded them in with their Pro video cameras to hide the numbers a few years ago.

Link | Posted on May 28, 2017 at 18:54 UTC
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roustabout66: This can not be good news for Sony cameras or the people who own them. All these years of pouring money trying to get market share (wasn't Minolta #3 when Sony bought them) and STILL #3 with about half of Nikon's share and 1/4 of Canon's share. No wonder Sony CEO Kaz Hirai did not even mention cameras as a profit center for Sony in the future:

"According to Hirai, that leaves Sony with three main businesses at its core :

Sony Pictures Entertainment, the hit-or-miss Hollywood studio that just fired Amy Pascal after being hacked to bits at the end of last year.

The PlayStation division, which has so far won the next-gen console race with the PS4 but yet to define a clear mobile strategy; PlayStation Mobile is all but ignored, and the Vita is a beautifully noble failure.

Selling image sensors to Apple for the iPhone."

https://www.theverge.com/2015/2/18/8063269/sony-electronics-future-selling-off-pc-smartphone-tv

Where is your link to an article where the Sony CEO says cameras will be a profit driver for Sony going forward? If he has not changed his plan for Sony it remains the same

Link | Posted on May 28, 2017 at 18:49 UTC

This can not be good news for Sony cameras or the people who own them. All these years of pouring money trying to get market share (wasn't Minolta #3 when Sony bought them) and STILL #3 with about half of Nikon's share and 1/4 of Canon's share. No wonder Sony CEO Kaz Hirai did not even mention cameras as a profit center for Sony in the future:

"According to Hirai, that leaves Sony with three main businesses at its core :

Sony Pictures Entertainment, the hit-or-miss Hollywood studio that just fired Amy Pascal after being hacked to bits at the end of last year.

The PlayStation division, which has so far won the next-gen console race with the PS4 but yet to define a clear mobile strategy; PlayStation Mobile is all but ignored, and the Vita is a beautifully noble failure.

Selling image sensors to Apple for the iPhone."

https://www.theverge.com/2015/2/18/8063269/sony-electronics-future-selling-off-pc-smartphone-tv

Link | Posted on May 28, 2017 at 15:35 UTC as 11th comment | 11 replies
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CaPi: This Sounds erie.
I nearly bought an A7R2 today.. the have it on sale in Germany.. discount on lenses.. a voucher for an additional battery.
That took quite an amount of willpower.
What's up with that?
I wonder if the A9 will work on the market. The market for high end prices wäre has its limits.. or so it seems.
Especially as they are used to hold onto gear for a t

CaPi That sounds like a real fire sale. Is that because it about to be the next Sony VAIO (discontinued) Sony cellphone (discontinued) etc. ?

Link | Posted on May 28, 2017 at 15:10 UTC
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T3: Clearly, there are some people here who are afraid of competition. I don't know why. We should all be cheering on Sony and every other camera company, because a camera world that is dominated by just two companies is not good! It's not good for consumers, it's not good for prices, it's not good for technology and innovation, it's not good for choice. Wake up and get out of your small brand-worshipping bubbles, people! Choice and strong competition is good! Sadly, there are going to be people who will reply that we only really need two camera companies: Canon and Nikon. And we only really need on ILC type: DSLR. And that everything else is just a waste of time. Sad.

I don't know how many camera companies we NEED, but we will be lucky to have 2 camera companies left after the damage from cellphones to the market is complete. Canon will survive in all probability and if there is a second company it will most likely be Nikon. These 2 have the largest user base, lens and accessory offerings and most importantly they have consistently made a profit selling cameras.

Link | Posted on May 28, 2017 at 14:58 UTC
On article Nikon reshuffles management structure (244 comments in total)
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raztec: Too little too late. I sincerely hope they don't sink, but their marketing department are to blame more than anyone.

They missed the boat on mirrorless completely not wanting to cannibalize the sales of their DSLRs. A simple digital FM2 or rangefinder would've sold by the buckets.

I am amazed at all the claims I see that Nikon, or Canon, are sinking, doomed etc. Canon and Nikon are the only camera companies that have figured out how to consistently make a profit selling cameras. Canon has about 50% of the market and Nikon about 25%. All of the other companies are fighting for the last 25%. I would worry more about one of the companies not making money sinking than Canon or Nikon.

Link | Posted on May 23, 2017 at 18:11 UTC
On article Sony a9: Why being better might not be enough (766 comments in total)
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perry rhodan: Denial is the best way to act for canikon here. 😅 And I'm a'n OVF canon guy.
BTW. Canikon to big to fail? NOT.

Canon, and to a lesser degree Nikon, also have the service facilities and support to keep a pro shooting and making money.

Link | Posted on Apr 24, 2017 at 14:45 UTC
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roustabout66: I thought when Sony talks about sensors they are mostly talking about sensors for IPhones?

My point is they are talking about primarily phones, not cameras.....at least that is what CEO Kaz Hirai stated.

"According to Hirai, that leaves Sony with three main businesses at its core :

Sony Pictures Entertainment, the hit-or-miss Hollywood studio that just fired Amy Pascal after being hacked to bits at the end of last year.
The PlayStation division, which has so far won the next-gen console race with the PS4 but yet to define a clear mobile strategy; PlayStation Mobile is all but ignored, and the Vita is a beautifully noble failure.
Selling image sensors to Apple for the iPhone."

http://www.theverge.com/2015/2/18/8063269/sony-electronics-future-selling-off-pc-smartphone-tv

Link | Posted on Apr 22, 2017 at 07:31 UTC

I thought when Sony talks about sensors they are mostly talking about sensors for IPhones?

Link | Posted on Apr 22, 2017 at 01:15 UTC as 16th comment | 2 replies
On article Nikon D7500: What you need to know (537 comments in total)
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WillieG: Not since the introduction of the Canon 6D has there been such a disappointing camera.

Sony! Sony doesn't even have their own repair facility in the U.S. but sub it out. Sony's lousy service is the reason Matt Granger stopped using Sony and went back to Nikon. Canon has half of the interchangeable lens camera market. Nikon has half of the other half (1/4). Everyone else is fighting for the crumbs that are left. Nikon has certainly had their issues but at least they, like Canon, are making a profit. They are the only camera companies I would, and have, put my money in. I can not believe people are sinking thousands of dollars in brands like Sony which will probably be the digital equivalent of Yashica in a few years.

Link | Posted on Apr 19, 2017 at 19:34 UTC
On article Nikon D7500: What you need to know (537 comments in total)
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WillieG: Not since the introduction of the Canon 6D has there been such a disappointing camera.

I notice you chose to change the comparison from the original competitor, D600, to the replacement D610 which was supposed to fix the numerous problems of the D600. It also seems you are saying that people who use Canon, about 50% of the market, are just not up on the latest technology. The overwhelming majority of pro shooters shoot Canon, but I guess they are just not that well informed either. Only the cool kids in this forum know which camera to purchase I guess.

By the way, Canon is INCREASING market share, not losing market share.

Link | Posted on Apr 19, 2017 at 11:50 UTC
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WillieG: Not since the introduction of the Canon 6D has there been such a disappointing camera.

Yes I also suspect other manufacturers would love Canon's user base. If they did THEY would be the most profitable camera company and dominate sales for a decade like Canon.

Did you own the 6D competitor the Nikon D600? I think the D600 was substantially less than mediocrity incarnate. If fact some people think the D600 disaster started Nikon down their road to cancelled products and large layoffs they suffer today.

Link | Posted on Apr 17, 2017 at 17:29 UTC
On article Nikon D7500: What you need to know (537 comments in total)
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WillieG: Not since the introduction of the Canon 6D has there been such a disappointing camera.

And for all that disappointment the 6D is still in the lineup and still being sold. I think a lot of camera companies would love to have a disappointment like that.

Link | Posted on Apr 13, 2017 at 19:52 UTC
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Kaso: It is usually wiser to buy into a mature system: more refined engineering, better selection of quality lenses and accessories, cheaper prices. Photography is much more than a sensor. And don't forget -- every time you upgrade to "bigger" gear, you must consider upgrading computer power, computer storage and computer monitor.

I totally agree which is why I would not consider a Sony camera.

Link | Posted on Mar 21, 2017 at 15:21 UTC
On article Hands-on with the Canon EOS 77D (450 comments in total)
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kty: To all that blind-minded fanboys that don't even tolerate the slightest criticism:
I ADMIRE CANON MORE THAN YOU GUYS!
Just like many, Canon 300D was THE camera to make me love photograpy. Not only that, it was again a Canon, namely the A1 which inspired me to dive in the world of film cameras. Now after years, i make my living out of these. I have been a keen admirer of Canon for nearly 20 years.
BUT
exactly for this very reason i am frustrated and angry for what they have turned into. My only hope is that they (and you too) will someday realize why Canon is NOT doing right. Before it is too late... Just like Leica, Rollei, Kodak and many other companies which also were making huge profits in their prime days but now are either deceased or shells of their former selfs.

Before it is too late.....? I thought Canon was taking market share from other companies and was the healthiest camera company by far. Unlike most of their competitors, they actually make a profit selling this stuff. It sounds to me as if they know what they are doing just fine.

Link | Posted on Feb 16, 2017 at 20:45 UTC
On article Hands-on with the Canon EOS 77D (450 comments in total)
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Linerider: These cameras may not seem like much, but when you compare them to the Nikon D5600, they are on another level!
At-least canon are making improvements.
Nikon seem to think that crippling cameras and taking features away, whilst charging your customers an extra $100 for inferior rubbish is the way to go.
No wonder they've recorded record losses.

And where is that wonderful D600 today? Replaced by the soon to be replaced D610 while people still want and buy the 6D! Being a RELIABLE product that produces the goods and does not self destruct is more important than a cheaply made product with a few more megapixels or AF points. That is why Canon has about 50% of the Japanese market and Nikon 25%. Of course Nikon announcing the layoff (early retirement) of 1100 workers will not help their poor reputation any.

Link | Posted on Feb 16, 2017 at 20:27 UTC
On article Hands-on with the Canon EOS 77D (450 comments in total)
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Linerider: These cameras may not seem like much, but when you compare them to the Nikon D5600, they are on another level!
At-least canon are making improvements.
Nikon seem to think that crippling cameras and taking features away, whilst charging your customers an extra $100 for inferior rubbish is the way to go.
No wonder they've recorded record losses.

By what measure did Canon cripple the 6D vs the D600.....no automatic oiling and dust features? The 6D is still in the Canon lineup, where is the D600?

Link | Posted on Feb 16, 2017 at 16:31 UTC
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