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Tequila MockingjayBird: Seems like we will finally see the end of the oft heard notion that you need huge lenses and super wide apertures to get the professional pictures, thanks to the AI & ML by Google.

Forget bokeh? That's the whole point of the article you are commenting on!!

Link | Posted on Dec 13, 2017 at 21:22 UTC
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RED i: Lost a few cards but they are so cheap these days who cares.

You were the one that said you lost them, pocket or not.

Link | Posted on Dec 13, 2017 at 19:23 UTC
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RED i: Lost a few cards but they are so cheap these days who cares.

If you have pics on them or you can't shoot because you have no card you will care.

Link | Posted on Dec 13, 2017 at 18:20 UTC

If you can't remember to put a memory card in your camera, how will you remember to load your spiffy card holder?

Also, I can't set my camera down now!

Edit: This just makes me wish (again) that they would just build in some spare flash space into cameras. Especially now that you can get an 8GB SD for like $6. Cost must be $2 at wholesale.

Link | Posted on Dec 13, 2017 at 18:19 UTC as 34th comment
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retr01976: Honestly both are very close. Really no point in comparing the two, it really comes down to which OS you prefer and which device has the best offering of editing apps. People change out phones every two years now and the quality of phone cameras is improved on almost a quarterly basis now.

Focal length on the pixel is terrible for portraits, though. 56mm on the iPhone makes for much more natural looking perspectives. That seems more important than minute differences in rendering to the overall picture.

Link | Posted on Dec 13, 2017 at 18:06 UTC
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Androole: It's quite astonishing to me how Google has managed to come out with such a superior implementation given the two years that Apple has had to refine its algorithms and hardware for this specific application. It suggests that Google's machine learning capabilities are really on a different level.

I definitely grant the iPhone sometimes results in nicer colours, but those are easy to adjust in post, while blown highlights and glitchy artifacts burned into a JPEG are either forever unrecoverable or require significant effort in sophisticated software like Photoshop. Clearly not what anyone is going to be doing with shots from their smartphone.

The shot with the A7r III and 55/1.8 was a really interesting contrast, too. The FF shot simply had too little DOF. For that sort of close focus distance, it really needed to be stopped down to at least f2.8.

I like what google is doing, but the longer focal length of the Apple makes for much more pleasing and natural looking portraits.

Link | Posted on Dec 13, 2017 at 18:04 UTC
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Tequila MockingjayBird: Seems like we will finally see the end of the oft heard notion that you need huge lenses and super wide apertures to get the professional pictures, thanks to the AI & ML by Google.

Given the price of current phones, this definitely isn't the cheapest or easiest way to take "bokeh" pics.

Link | Posted on Dec 13, 2017 at 18:02 UTC
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Kwick1: I’m curious how the iPhone X would compare.

Very similar camera hardware to the 8 plus, just a slightly faster telephoto lens. The results are roughly identical, although the X can be used in a little bit less light.

Link | Posted on Dec 13, 2017 at 18:00 UTC
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JanMatthys: Are these phomeras convenient?...Yes, are the pictures better than a $300 P&S camera? ....No ....... does the average instant-gratification consumer care?......No

And now to sports with Jim...

There's no $300 P&S that create moderately convincing bg blur is there?

Link | Posted on Dec 13, 2017 at 17:59 UTC
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jbroehl: Apologies in advance if this is a newbie question, I've been on Android for a while and not following Iphones very closelyWhy is the 8 plus considered but not the regular 8? Better camera than the regular 8?

Iphone 8 doesn't have the second camera that is used to create the portrait mode pictures. Only the 7 Plus, 8 Plus and X has that. So the regular smaller 8 cannot take pictures with the simulated bokeh/blur.

Google can do it with the one camera, but Apple's method needs 2 cameras (And provides more reliable results, IMO)

Link | Posted on Dec 13, 2017 at 17:57 UTC

It's not like these are going to fool anyone coming from a big sensor and a pile of fast primes when viewed large. But on instagram or in a typical small album/book where most of the population views their photos? These are getting awfully close!

Link | Posted on Dec 13, 2017 at 17:54 UTC as 20th comment
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WillWeaverRVA: It'll only cost about eleventy billion dollars.

I'd bet it starts at about $1000

Link | Posted on Dec 13, 2017 at 00:02 UTC
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multisystem: Will an FF lens at a similar price point shot at f2.4 with the same FOV, same conditions give less or more purple fringing than what is seen in images 1,2 and 5?

I'm asking an honest question from people who have had the experience of shooting many lenses of different format.s

Based on my experience with the cheap favorite 85mm f1.8 USM, I'm going to say no. The Canon 85mm f1.8 had terrible PF against highlights wide open, but it was all but gone by f2.4 for sure.

Link | Posted on Dec 12, 2017 at 23:32 UTC
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Focus Shift Shooting: Still waiting for the 8TB Black drive from WD.

I'd pay more for them than these 14TB drives from Toshiba any day.

Anyone thinking they can beat the odds with a certain brand is asking for it. Seagate drives are used in many enterprise storage systems and servers.

Link | Posted on Dec 12, 2017 at 23:29 UTC
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Focus Shift Shooting: Still waiting for the 8TB Black drive from WD.

I'd pay more for them than these 14TB drives from Toshiba any day.

5400 vs 7200 RPM only really affects latency. And latency is so poor on either, that it is irrelevant. If you were performing random access where latency matters, you would be using an SSD.

Max sequential transfer speed is affected more by platter density than anything else.

Link | Posted on Dec 12, 2017 at 22:01 UTC
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anticipation_of: Very interesting proof of concept. Shame they haven’t quite pulled it off as a practical camera. By the time they get their firmware sorted out the tech will have probably moved on; hopefully, they stick around long enough to make a Version 2. Done properly, this could be pretty great.

Or stitching 8 frames from your $100 camera....

Link | Posted on Dec 12, 2017 at 21:56 UTC

Rumor has it that the next Huawei Leica phone will have 3 cameras and perform similar tricks. Sure 16 > 3, but I think by the time Light has really escaped beta, cell phones will have killed it's reason for being already.

Link | Posted on Dec 12, 2017 at 21:54 UTC as 3rd comment
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ecka84: If we are going to ignore the price, then what makes it a better option than Samsung's 16TB SSD?

Short term, they are not getting cheaper, but over a few years, they are insanely cheap. In the server/enterprise market, SSD have all but eliminated 15K disk drives from the market due to near cost parity.

Link | Posted on Dec 12, 2017 at 19:44 UTC
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Focus Shift Shooting: Still waiting for the 8TB Black drive from WD.

I'd pay more for them than these 14TB drives from Toshiba any day.

The special thing about WD black is that it gives the placebo effect of faster performance by being noisy.

Link | Posted on Dec 12, 2017 at 19:40 UTC
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ecka84: If we are going to ignore the price, then what makes it a better option than Samsung's 16TB SSD?

The enterprise class server ones I am used to seeing are 3x that or more. Anyone considering that much SSD space is probably an enterprise customer. If you aren't, I would buy a stack of smaller capacity ones. 8x2TB SSD is only $4k

Link | Posted on Dec 12, 2017 at 17:55 UTC
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