Jorginho

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sijou: Hi-Res mode: I think that 1 from 1000 of us would find this useful. In urban areas just everything is moving..( with the exception of maybe Chernobyl and Fukushima) and results in blurred pictures. The same in landscapes (-at least mines) there are trees grasses, flowers , birds everywhere I go, and mostly the wind is blowing...Blurred pictures. Maybe the ancient Egypt and Petra with no trees around would be a good subject..For me it's easy, just grab my 7RII, true it's just 42Mp not 80, but in ONE shot!
For large prints ( 2mx6m) for advertising a product, fashion, food, new gadgets etc may be useful..

I must be 1:1000. I think one in every 5 pis of mine on my Em1.2 is HiRes. For landscapes indeed.

Link | Posted on Nov 14, 2017 at 14:28 UTC
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Jim Salvas: My experience with the Olympus hi-res files is that you get most of the advantage by processing the RAW file. Those 80mp files can take an extraordinary amount of sharpening and processing. Olympus also provides a single low-res frame with the RAW, which allows you to up-res it, layer it in Photoshop and use it to patch the moving elements. I'd imagine Panasonic's files will be the same.

Same here. I am very happy with sharpening up etc and then downsizing to 60 MP or so. Also in low light the colours and noise are really several stops better than the single shot file (which as you say is in there too with the Em1.2).

Link | Posted on Nov 14, 2017 at 14:26 UTC
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Androole: So a quick calculation indicates that at 80MP, diffraction limiting is f2.8. So realistically, best suited to lenses like the longer Voigtlander f0.95 trio (not the 10.5mm), the Nocticron, the O75mm/1.8, and perhaps the Sigma 30mm/1.4 stopped down to f2.8 where they achieve extremely high MTF values.

However, since the high-res mode is most appropriately used at 40MP, not 80MP, that brings your diffraction limit up to f4. Which opens up a lot more options, and means that something like the O12-100/f4 at the wide end might be good enough, as well.

On Em1.2 with the 20 mm f1.7 I get excellent results just getting it down from 80 to 60-65 MP. Very good, crisp, detailed and lower noise with better colours.

Link | Posted on Nov 14, 2017 at 14:24 UTC
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MrALLCAPS: Panasonic has been releasing high end bodies, with weather sealing, as well as some zooms, but what about the Primes? You have a 15mm, 20mm, 25mm, 45?mm and more, yet none of them a weather sealed.

Seems like they're only focused on videographers and not Still shooters, like they say they are.

What tops anyone from buying the Oly? I like it btw, so Panny can focus on other lenses and combined the system is getting more chouce not 2 or 3 of mostly the same lenses jsut from other brands.

Link | Posted on Nov 14, 2017 at 14:22 UTC
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nokinonacynos: This novelty will wear out in no time. In the era of high mp plus photobooks, mags and phone screens not getting any bigger, what practical use is there? Pixelpeepers would love it though.

Much lower noise, much better colours, somewhat better DR. If it is not interesting why would anyone ever use a real 45-100 MP cam? It is not for everything, but on my EM1.2 (which does not introduce such artifacts btw) for landscapes it is about FF-MF IQ in a mft package. I like it.

Link | Posted on Nov 14, 2017 at 14:21 UTC
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Ergo607: I don't know if it's me, but I have a hard time telling any supposed resolution upgrade on the 80MP high resolution mode...

If my Oly Em1.2 is any indication the difference between standard shot and HiRes shot varies from a bit better to far superior. Especially when the light go down and there is colour the difference is very big. Between a shot that is really superb, very low noise, great colours and somewhat better dynamic range to a pic that is better viewed at smaller sizes but still lacks the nice colours big time.
For landscape the detail and colours especially are easily spotted and give much nicer shots. How G9 does:initial reports show something similar, bit it seems far more prone to artifact withs movement.
80Mp is indeed too much to be sharp at 100%. But sharpen the files up (it has ample of room there) and downsize to 60-65 MP with a good lens like the 20 mm f1.7 and the shots look excellent at full size.

Link | Posted on Nov 13, 2017 at 09:22 UTC
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joelakeland: For an m43 enthusiast with specific tech needs, this looks to be a great solution. For dedicated stills shooter seeking the best available image quality this is not the answer.

I've owned and like Panasonic cameras in the G and GX series. For me, this one jumped the shark with its size alone.

There is only one answer: get a PhaseOne then. If you want a superb cam that gets you great lenses and combined relatively lightweight system G9 is a very good choice from initial reports.

Link | Posted on Nov 13, 2017 at 09:19 UTC
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justmeMN: The body of the Panasonic G9 is bigger than a Canon SL2 DSLR.

http://camerasize.com/compare/#725,715

GX85 is smaller. Gm5 is much smaller. These are less capable, nbut so is the SL2 compared to the G9.
I have Em1.2 and Gm5 (and GH4). Gm5 with 7,5 mm Laowa, 14 mm f2.5 Panny, 20 mm 1.7 Panny and 45 mm f1.8 Oly is such a small and fun package for holidays, streetshooting with very solid IQ.
GH4...I no longer need it but it is stlll a lovely cam. Em1.2 is not lovely at all, but it gets me easily the best IQ of all m43 cams I ever had. If HiRes on G9 was as good as it is on Em1.2 (and it isn't) I would hav switched. I now stick to my not much loved Oly...

Link | Posted on Nov 13, 2017 at 09:17 UTC
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User0867431177: So I've come over from the big DsLR kits and have been shooting with the Oly OMD make for the last 6 months. The AF is good but not quite up to snuff. I've been told if I want the CAF to work right I have to buy native glass. I'm asking y'all is that true? I've got a lot of Oly glass now I would like this new G9. It seems it may be able to compete better in the sports realm than my Oly. Thanks

No. My 100-400 LEICA works very well with my EM1.2. Only the minimal distance must be set on cam, not on the lens.
Oly lenses work very well on my GH4 with its DFD other people noted the same thing. The greatness of DFD is not the algorithm taylored for the lens it seems. It seems to be mainly just a very good CDAF. Panny lenses do a little better, like my 35-100 F2.8 shoots 7.5 fps and my Oly 45 mm 1.8 goes down to 6 fps on the GH4 but the keeperrate is similar.
So no worries here to my mind. I would happily buy a G9 and put a 40-150 mm f2.8 lens (Oly) on it. It will work very well in all likelihood.

Link | Posted on Nov 13, 2017 at 09:14 UTC
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soundknight21: I wanted the EVF further to the left like the GX8 :(
Perfect for ergonomics.

And no evf tilt either???

It is not a GX cam so no tilty EVF nor a move to the left. Like Thor said: Wait for the GX9. G9 makes me very curious about what GX9 is going to be,

Link | Posted on Nov 13, 2017 at 09:10 UTC
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MtnBikerCalif: The Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark II is " weather-sealed." How does that compare to the Lumix G9's "splash, freeze and dust proof construction"?

From what I remember of early reports on the Olympus, they could withstand quite a bit of splashing. But https://www.dpreview.com/news/4176919219/this-is-what-happens-when-a-weather-sealed-camera-takes-a-dip-in-salt-water gives one hesitation about these vague claims.

If I had to choose based on naming, Panasonic wins hand down: G9 vs. OM-D E-M1 Mark II. Not quite it, just saw that it's really a DC-G9, still winning. What happened to the M (DMC)?

@Vignes: I have both Panasonic and Oly camera's and lenses. The AF for action owith an Oly lens on a Panny body with DFD works very well. I am not the only one to report this. Action shooting with the GH4, the first cam with the first DFD version, also worked very well. EM1.2 (which I have too) does better when setup correctly. But it is not that much better actually. I have no clue if the new DFD is just a marketing thing or really better but if it is it will be very close and may be better than my EM1.2. So "only" CDAF is giving people a very wrong impression. Mo other CDAF comes even remotely close for action shooting with a high keeperrate.
I wanted G9 to have OSPDAF for video...but now it seems they have addressed that problem as well....So DFD is the way to go for Panny it seems, I got that one wrong.

Link | Posted on Nov 13, 2017 at 09:09 UTC
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tmurph: I used to have the Panasonic G6. Changed it and my system for the Fuji X-T10 and never looked back. I now have the X-T20 and use it for football picture taking. The AF is the same as the XT2. With my 55-200 it's a great camera and I get pin sharp pictures. As clever as the new G9 is I think its the sensor that is its Achilles heel.
If Fuji can make a mirrorless camera with a cmos sensor why doesn't Panasonic change?

In reality the IQ differnece between the XT2 and the 20 MP m43 sensor (or at least the one in the Em1.2) is minute, The G9 offers much more then the X-T20 but the only thing that matters is whether these differences are of any use to the buyer. XT20 is of course very good at what it gets people. But its video, its burstspeeds, its lacking sealing, much smaller EVF, no dualcard slot, much shorter batterylife etcetc makes it clear these camera's are quite differently spec'd.

Link | Posted on Nov 9, 2017 at 08:30 UTC
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thx1138: Since they make no mention of it, I assume this is not a stacked sensor and read-out speed will be inadequate to capture 20fps without extensive rolling shutter. If so, it's already a waste of effort. Sony at least went to the trouble to make their 20fps usable and massively increase sensor read-out speed with the A9.

You could have looked at the Oly EM1.2 which has very little rolling shutter and no stacke dsensor either, yet attains the same speed as the G9.

Link | Posted on Nov 9, 2017 at 08:25 UTC
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jeffinchiangmai1: Isn't it big, defeating the advantages of M43?

That is personal. The advantages of m43s for me are that body + lenses are much lighter than any APS-c combo offering the same focal length and speed. But everyone has his or her opinion. Which is of course fine.

Link | Posted on Nov 9, 2017 at 08:23 UTC
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Oleg Ivanovskiy: Looks like E-M1 mark II twin, with better EVF but (most probably) worse AF. Slightly cheaper. Not a "wow" camera.

I have GH4 and Em1.2. Over all I would not say EM1.2 has better AF. When setup correctly for action the EM1.2 is better but not a lot. I very low light the Panny is better, the panny also does better and more consistent S-AF with Oly and Panny lenses whereas Em1.2 is more hesitant with some Panny lense especially.
DFD has been enhanced, in video at least it seems to be clearly better.
Is this a wow camera. For the price I agree it is very good but not wow. For 1200 euro it would be. But as it is I tend to think that for stills shooters this is probably the bst mFT cam out there.

Link | Posted on Nov 8, 2017 at 20:26 UTC
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Sergey Borachev: Finally, a M43 camera that can be considered by the stills shooter as an upgrade for the 5 ½ year old EM5.

I have been using Olympus since the 70s and never had a Panasonic before, but this seems to be ticking all the boxes for those who do not care so much for action or video, just superior stills shooting in a camera that is not too heavy or expensive due to other needs. Well done, Panasonic. My money is here.

EM5? EM5 has no clue how to any action shooting. EM5 sensor is clearly worse than EM1.2, GH5 and most likely G9. EM5 as slower AF, does not focus as god in low light, does not have an IBIS system anywhere near these cams, EVF is far worse. No siwle screen, no focusstacking, no HiRes shot, bad batterylife and it goes on and on and on. EM1 was already much better than Em5. Let alone the latest mFT cams. At least according to this stills shooter.

Link | Posted on Nov 8, 2017 at 20:23 UTC
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keepreal: When a flyweight takes on the heavy weights, a camera needs some quality features and this camera certainly seems to have some. Except that the G9 is middleweight with a flyweight sized sensor.

Sergey Borachev below says this is a camera that is not too heavy or expensive. Compared with my Nikon D610, the Panasonic Lumix G9 is 4mm shorter, 16mm less tall, 10mm thicker and 192g, a fair amount lighter. Given that it has advanced features that mine does not have, that's not bad until you take into account that the sensor has only 26% of the area of full frame and about 52% of APS-C.

IMO that makes the most advanced MFT cameras ridiculous. They are fairly big and quite heavy. So you have a choice of full frame or APS-C with either OVF or EVF - if you like EVF and mirrorless with a moderate amount less bulk and weight - or MFT if you have been brainwashed into a platform that started out sensibly enough but now at the top of the range has been designed for those with MFT sized brains.

People over here are completely anal about sensorsize. Very few talk about image quality. And probably for a good reason because eveyr single review tells us that the IQ out of the recent 20 MP cams (GH5, EM1.2 and G9) is very good
But the mantra will be repeated to death since there is little else to comment about.
It is why EM1.2, GH5 and G80 got a gold reward here, Em1.2 was chosen as the best cam for action at mirrorless comparisons etc. But most of these reviewers are objective users that can pick any cam they want, unlike many others.

Link | Posted on Nov 8, 2017 at 20:18 UTC
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enrique santa: The only wrong thing with this cam is the sensor. 3 years ago I sold all my m4/3 lenses and cams and never look back. M 4/3 is a dead way. No sense at least with no new sensor tech, of this kind of monster cams and really expensive lenses. Of course everyone can waste their money like they desire.

Most complainers over here lack skills, most cams are not lacking in any way.

Link | Posted on Nov 8, 2017 at 20:12 UTC
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Ben of the North: Can it receive heavy rain or just some very light rain for a short time?

I used my GH4 in Scotland in heavy sleet and snowshowers shooting for hours near a strong waterfall (lot of mist coming off it). The GH4 did survive without a even an hickup. This seems to be a general notion: Panasonic seals their cams very well.

Link | Posted on Nov 8, 2017 at 20:10 UTC
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turretless: Meanwhile as of today (2017-11-08) B&H offers e-m1 MkII for $1799 :)
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1283565-REG/olympus_om_d_e_m1_mark_ii.html

Well I have it since dec '16 and I am not too fodn of it. It does have great IQ and specs, but the EVF is nothing to write home about at all, interfacing as I said too many times already is a serious drama. But the HiRes mode from what I have seen on the G9 is much better on the Em1.2 since it can handle some movement without too much roblems. G9 remind me more of the artifacts prone PenF for instance. So the Em12 will stay since I use HiRes a lot.

Link | Posted on Nov 8, 2017 at 11:44 UTC
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