Tailslol

Lives in Turkey Istanbul, Turkey
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Francis85: And? This IMX610 appears not to be the best sensor Sony has. As that sensor seems to be in the Z9. So really what's the point of this Sony marketing message?
Or... it might be that the sensor in the Z9 is not a Sony made, but one made by Aptina and then Aptina did a better job at bringing worlds currently best sensor into a camera at a lower cost.

So good for Sony to keep this specific sensor for themselves.
I think no other manufacturer cares a lot since they have one that excels this IMX610.

MikeRan
No clue, why can't A1 do 120 fps at 12MP? The sensor should be able to do that, but it doesn't.
It might be something about the compression they are using, Nikon Lossy Raw is still 14 Bit and maybe the processor isn't fast enough to do that compression at 30 fps. Who knows?

The point is, even if Nikon did offer 30 fps at lossy raw, people would only ever use it if they actually need 30 and 20 wouldn't cut it, because it's a loss in IQ. Exactly like Sony. There is no 50MP camera out there right now that can do 30 fps Raw. I bet that A1 Mark 2 will do that. And then all the Sony fanboys will be saying "hey our camera can do 30 fps REAL RAW now".

"Your profile says different:

Tailslol
Lives in Istanbul, Turkey
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My profile says exactly what I said. I'm a mathematician. This is a photography site, should I put down the title of my Ph.D. thesis into my signature? Why are you still trolling?

Link | Posted on Jan 18, 2022 at 18:34 UTC
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Francis85: And? This IMX610 appears not to be the best sensor Sony has. As that sensor seems to be in the Z9. So really what's the point of this Sony marketing message?
Or... it might be that the sensor in the Z9 is not a Sony made, but one made by Aptina and then Aptina did a better job at bringing worlds currently best sensor into a camera at a lower cost.

So good for Sony to keep this specific sensor for themselves.
I think no other manufacturer cares a lot since they have one that excels this IMX610.

Anulu, actually since Z9 will be recording 8K 60 fps soon, that means the sensor can do 33MP 12 Bit at 60 fps, which is higher bandwidth than 50MP 13 bit at 30 fps.

Link | Posted on Jan 18, 2022 at 16:57 UTC
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Francis85: And? This IMX610 appears not to be the best sensor Sony has. As that sensor seems to be in the Z9. So really what's the point of this Sony marketing message?
Or... it might be that the sensor in the Z9 is not a Sony made, but one made by Aptina and then Aptina did a better job at bringing worlds currently best sensor into a camera at a lower cost.

So good for Sony to keep this specific sensor for themselves.
I think no other manufacturer cares a lot since they have one that excels this IMX610.

ZZT231 I don't consider myself a mathematician. I am a mathematician. Have a Ph.D. in mathematics. So basically everyone considers me a mathematician.

But that's completely beside the point and a stupid trolling attempt.

A1 cannot do lossless raw at 30 fps because it doesn't have the bandwidth to do that. Yes the buffer is larger with lossy raw with Nikon Z9 but unless I really need a burst longer than 4 seconds, I won't use lossy raw in Z9. I'll use 14 bit lossless raw.

And anyone who owns A1, if they are using the machine at 15-20 fps, will use it at actual Raw, not lossy Raw and only go 30 fps if the loss in IQ is an acceptable tradeoff. An R3 user doesn't have to do that.

So yes, I'd also prefer lossy raw to JPEG, but even if the Z9 had 30 fps lossy raw, I'd still use it at 20 fps to get lossless raw 99% of the time, because I paid for this thing to get the best IQ available from it.

Link | Posted on Jan 18, 2022 at 16:53 UTC
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Francis85: And? This IMX610 appears not to be the best sensor Sony has. As that sensor seems to be in the Z9. So really what's the point of this Sony marketing message?
Or... it might be that the sensor in the Z9 is not a Sony made, but one made by Aptina and then Aptina did a better job at bringing worlds currently best sensor into a camera at a lower cost.

So good for Sony to keep this specific sensor for themselves.
I think no other manufacturer cares a lot since they have one that excels this IMX610.

ZZT231, doesn't A1 actually do lossly raw at 30fps? It cannot do lossless Raw either. I tend to not call lossy Raw, Raw. It's something between JPEG and Raw. The only camera that can do 30fps Raw is R3 at the moment.

And if we are discussing options other than actual Raw, can A1 do 120 fps at 12mp?

Link | Posted on Jan 18, 2022 at 15:06 UTC
On article What you need to know about the new Nikon Z9 (529 comments in total)
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DarkShift: Since the Z9 buffer limits seem to have been hot topic here, this might interest some of you. Ricci's has published his buffer tests with the Z9 using different cards (XQD, two CFExpress B cards):
https://youtu.be/YND5oacJBl4

With the Delkin Black 512GB CFE card, he got following results at 20 fps:
Lossless compressed raw: 81 shots
High Efficiency Raw*: 1100+ shots
High Efficiency Raw: 3000+ shots (test stopped at r014)

What is really amazing, is how quickly the buffer clears after hitting 81 lossless raws. Only about 1.5 seconds, and you've got full buffer again. That is lighting fast.

In some similar Sony A1 tests, the buffer clears at ca. 26 seconds from hitting the buffer limit with SDXC card, and at ca. 8-10 seconds with CFExpress Type A cards. So, the lower speed standards seem to limit Sony's ability to shoot again after filling the buffer.

The Z9 really delivers some impressive numbers here.

These Delkin blacks are out of stock everywhere. I wonder if Z9 buyers are sucking the stock right now.

Link | Posted on Nov 1, 2021 at 17:37 UTC
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Clint Dunn: How do you sell a $4000 'Pro' laptop without even giving it the latest HDMI standard? Aside from that, these new MBP's look great.

And why SD card instead of Cfe? But apart from those, I cannot wait for mine to arrive.

Link | Posted on Nov 1, 2021 at 17:00 UTC
On article What you need to know about the new Nikon Z9 (529 comments in total)
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justmeMN: Most people, even Nikon enthusiasts, won't buy this camera, but it's good for Nikon's brand image.

You think? I have never owned a Nikon flagship yet I’ve ordered this 2 months ago. (Got in line with my dealer)

Link | Posted on Nov 1, 2021 at 09:15 UTC
On article What you need to know about the new Nikon Z9 (529 comments in total)
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Shorin: I’ve been a Nikon user since the film days, now a Z7II shooter. More recently I have seen the technologies of other camera companies eclipse Nikon, and I’ve been concerned about stodgy Nikon’s survivability. I felt the writing was on the wall. The thought of Sony, Canon, or Fujifilm acquiring Nikon’s assets also crossed my mind. Then, Nikon stuns everyone with the Z9! After their cost cutting and downsizing measures, what a remarkable achievement! Nikon still has a lot of catching up to do, but I’m glad that they’ve reestablished themselves as a photographic leader, like in the film days. Perhaps spoken like a fan boy but “Onward and upward, Nikon!”

Apple never had marketshare. Yet they are the most valuable company in the world.

Link | Posted on Nov 1, 2021 at 09:09 UTC
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Jen Bruntnant: wow, that's sad, even if you use the absolute most expensive and fast CF express cards the Z9 choke after 40 pictures unless you use lossy RAW. And that's the flagship?

Does Z9 choke faster? Not really. A1 has a 90 frame buffer at lossless raw. Z9 has 80. With lossy Z9 suddenly gets 1000 where A1 getz 250.

Link | Posted on Nov 1, 2021 at 08:43 UTC
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ex human: The readout speed with that resolution is truly mind-blowing.

They both do full raw at 20 fps. So apparently full raw at 30 is still not doable at that resolution. Maybe A1 II and Z9 II.

Link | Posted on Oct 28, 2021 at 17:00 UTC
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about23ninjas: 10fps? That's it?

Yeah but the reviews are saying that A1 has still better AF than this. Just because the software is the same, doesn't imply the AF is the same. A1 has a sensor with almost 15x readout speed so it can do a lot more calculations for AF.

Link | Posted on Oct 22, 2021 at 05:31 UTC
On article Sony a7 IV initial review (1563 comments in total)
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whtchocla7e: 33mpx at 14bit vs 20mpx at 12bit, get outta here with these silly comparisons 😂

R6 has a lot less rolling shutter compared to this one due to A74 having really slow sensor readout. Yes there are better cameras for sports but if I compared it to this camera, R6 wins hands down in every aspect.

Link | Posted on Oct 22, 2021 at 05:28 UTC
On article Sony a7 IV initial review (1563 comments in total)
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Sardonic G: Seems pretty middle of the road for the price they are asking

Not in video but in stills, it pretty much matched this. Yes it did have worse AF, but sensor resolution, readout speed and fps pretty much matches this.

Link | Posted on Oct 22, 2021 at 05:26 UTC
On article Sony a7 IV initial review (1563 comments in total)
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Sardonic G: Seems pretty middle of the road for the price they are asking

Canon R from 2018 was similarly specced to this, it lacked IBIS though.

Link | Posted on Oct 21, 2021 at 16:48 UTC
On article Sony a7 IV initial review (1563 comments in total)
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whtchocla7e: 33mpx at 14bit vs 20mpx at 12bit, get outta here with these silly comparisons 😂

5 fps at that vs 20 fps for the other. I'd take an R6 for sports over this without even blinking.

Link | Posted on Oct 21, 2021 at 16:48 UTC
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stevevuoso: 5 fps? Why does fps seem like the one area Sony is so bad at?

Yeah but that's why it feels really weird that this gives you 5. Sony can do more fps at this price, they just won't to not eat into A9 sales. That's the only reason.

Link | Posted on Oct 21, 2021 at 16:47 UTC
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armandino: A bit of a lazy update imo after waiting 3 years. Not a R6 killer, although I welcome the 33MP sensor. That does not make it a bad camera but it does not stand out.

How does a 5/10 fps camera kill a 20 fps camera with less rolling shutter? R6 is a better camera than this, even Z6II is a better camera than this for stills and that one even costs less. If this was 1700$, then it'd be a good deal.

Link | Posted on Oct 21, 2021 at 16:45 UTC
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Steppenw0lf: Comparing the new MacBook M1 pro/max announcement and this Nikon Z9 (pre)announcement, I think the Apple news is much more useful for me.

I just ordered a M1 Max 16" and I'll also get a Z9. Cannot wait for both to be honest.

Link | Posted on Oct 20, 2021 at 15:16 UTC
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about23ninjas: 10fps? That's it?

Still, I thought this camera would be 20 fps without stacked sensor, to differentiate from A9ii. 10 fps is even less than the 1st gen Z6 which does 12.

Link | Posted on Oct 18, 2021 at 21:19 UTC
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peeyaj: With the rumored price of 2599 usd, this is a R6 killer

Still R6 has twice the fps as this.

Link | Posted on Oct 18, 2021 at 21:17 UTC
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