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EXkurogane: I was quite surprised, given how nikon does not have a track record of providing firmware updates that adds new features to their cameras.
@fb1996
I'm not too confident in Kiril's reading skills - he's been told he's wrong over and over in these comments. It hasn't made any difference, he just keeps repeating the same nonsense.
Zenza R: I am a Sony shooter and i am super happy with these important firmware updates and new lenses! competition is good for us!
@Kiril Karaatanasov
from the announcement: "The Nikon Z series will continue to adapt to changing user needs through the development and roll-out of firmware updates to meet and exceed creative expectations."
Kiril Karaatanasov: Ok so throw the Z6 and Z7 in eBay the Z8 and Z9 are coming...
Nikon blew it so bad they have to replace the cameras in less than 6 months. Well done Nikon.
PS "Feature update" means new camera. "Firmware update" (note the word difference) means update to current camera. Congrats Nikon users for wasting your cache on the Z6 and Z7
@betterthansome
I suspect he always blames the camera.
Kiril Karaatanasov: Ok so throw the Z6 and Z7 in eBay the Z8 and Z9 are coming...
Nikon blew it so bad they have to replace the cameras in less than 6 months. Well done Nikon.
PS "Feature update" means new camera. "Firmware update" (note the word difference) means update to current camera. Congrats Nikon users for wasting your cache on the Z6 and Z7
@Kiril Karaatanasov
Just helping you to understand the announcement:
Quote from the announcement: "The Nikon Z series will continue to adapt to changing user needs through the development and roll-out of firmware updates to meet and exceed creative expectations." Got that? ... they're firmware updates.
wasTF: when your OOC JPG looks better than the conversion !!!!
Agreed. But I can see horizontal banding in both of them ;-)
What a pity I didn't see this until today - I would have voted it five stars.
Lovely photo, perfect exposure, great composition. Sorry about the cliche but it does look 'painterly', and there's absolutely nothing wrong in that.
Sorry I missed the voting but we've had a bereavement.
tzm41: Computational photography will be a real challenge for traditional camera companies to keep up with, as stated by Nikon.
I don't see anything scary about it. I mostly shoot raw so it doesn't really affect me.
I just can't see where I could find any personal satisfaction in an image that had been tweaked by an AI system to make it look like something the AI system 'thought' was artistic.
Sorry, but I'm a bit old-fashioned in this. I don't trust Google either.
Each to their own.
tzm41: Computational photography will be a real challenge for traditional camera companies to keep up with, as stated by Nikon.
I rather think that computational modes will not be a conspicuous feature on 'pro' (or even 'pro-sumer') cameras.
I do think it's inevitable that It will be present on entry-level and consumer-level cameras - that's the segment that wants it - much like the 'Scene' modes many of us learned to avoid in our earlier years.
Sardonic G: Actually I do have an idea for a turning old film cameras into "digital." Not sure how strong public interest in it would be however.
Nah, digital is dead. The future is wooden.
PostModernBloke: This post is DPR promoting a Kickstarter project. It features the 'company's' promotional video, and a direct link to the page.
DPR has previous on this, having promoted the 'Meyer Optic' and the 'Yashica 35' scams.
Don't fall for it - give them your money and you have literally no rights at all. They'll just say "Sorry - it didn't work out" and that's your money gone.
Much better to buy stuff that actually exists, in stock, that'll arrive on Wednesday.
DPR doesn't - DOES NOT - furnish these scams legitimacy. This is probably not a scam, but it still takes your money with no guarantee that you'll receive a product. It's on DPR - it must be legit, right??
@PMB:
You're not very consistent are you? In the exchange above you say:
"A good rule of thumb is to type as if the conversation is happening in person, so a degree of respect please. You wouldn’t be so aggressive or insulting face-to-face."
Yet in an earlier post of yours https://www.dpreview.com/news/0865105528/1000-year-long-exposure-due-to-reveal-effects-of-climate-change-for-exhibition-in-3018?comment=5109478471 you called me an idiot:
"Idiot, but it's not your fault."
Apparently because I don't share your admiration for some attention seeking "experimental philosopher" who impressed me so much that I can't even be bothered to look up or remember his name.
I think you should look at yourself again.
Sactojim: LOL..well this is out there. I remember during the last drought years (2012-2016) when people and scientists were proclaiming Lake Tahoe's water level will never recover since it hit record lows. THere was lots of doom and gloom and then came the very wet 2017 winter and the Lake went to record high levels. In talking with a local resident (50+ years of living in S. Lake Tahoe), she said it's all part of a predictable cycle of nature. THis whole GW is such a farce as I remember the big scares we had in the 1970's when so called scientists were proclaiming global cooling. Way too many today have swallowed the politically driven Kool Aid, specifically the carbon credits scam.
Copy this into the address bar of your browser:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6268731,96.2434161,2496m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=de
You should find yourself looking at a satellite view of an enormous Chinese wind turbine installation.
Now zoom out a bit and you'll find that was just a small part of it.
Keep zooming out and looking around.
Keep zooming out and you'll start to get an idea of how seriously the Chinese are taking global warming.
That wind farm is immense. To the best of my knowledge, we don't have anything to compare with it in the west.
Andy Findlay: What a stupid idea.
Calls himself an “experimental philosopher” apparently.
I can think of a plethora of terms that would be more appropriate.
@PostModernBloke:
Oh dear, have I offended you? Please let me reassure you that there was zero anger content in my posts.
I was merely giving my opinion on somebody who seems to be making a habit of doing stupid things to promote himself.
As for:
"If you don't like Keats's stuff then why not just move on past it?"
I suggest you follow your own advice and move on.
Bye-bye
Andy Findlay: What a stupid idea.
Calls himself an “experimental philosopher” apparently.
I can think of a plethora of terms that would be more appropriate.
@khunpapa.
I don't think any rational person would consider Einstein's early problems are at all comparable to Jonathon Keats problems.
Andy Findlay: What a stupid idea.
Calls himself an “experimental philosopher” apparently.
I can think of a plethora of terms that would be more appropriate.
And further still:
(from https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/59dn3b/mental-work-industries-automation-brain-controlled-factory ):
"He has made porn for plants, sold real estate in the fourth dimension, created God in a petri dish, and copyrighted his brain".
'Nuff said.
Andy Findlay: What a stupid idea.
Calls himself an “experimental philosopher” apparently.
I can think of a plethora of terms that would be more appropriate.
Further:
Quote from the press release:
"The four locations, pinpointed on a topographic map and identified by geographic coordinates, are as follows:
South Shore: Heavenly Mountain Resort, South Lake Tahoe, NV / CA
West Shore: Eagle Rock, Homewood, CA
North Shore: Lake Tahoe Dam, Tahoe City, CA
East Shore: Sand Harbor, NV"
Yet there is no topographic map and there are no geographic coordinates.
What a stupid idea.
Calls himself an “experimental philosopher” apparently.
I can think of a plethora of terms that would be more appropriate.
Trollshavethebestcandy: Not that anyone cares...
I never seriously wanted a Leica camera before because the value was more in the status symbol rather than a tool. Now that Leica has chosen to go more discrete and understated I have forgiven their past sins of vanity. The only thing that stops me from desiring one is the value. Not resale value but value as in adding benefit or advantages. I like this camera more than any previous digital Leica. That said, what advantage does it offer for the money? I see it worth 1/3rd what they are charging. I applaud Leica for this model. I see it as the best of both worlds analog and digital albeit being digital. For me, value is king. At 1/3rd the asking price, I would rather buy a Minolta CLE, a few lenses and a used Sony A7 with a Leica adapter. To thine self be true. Buy this camera if you like it. It may have a great resale value. I hope to find one at a garage sale :)
I thought the loss of the red leica disc was just a cost-saving measure. Funny they put the price up through the roof at the same time.
Toselli: I like the idea of not having an lcd, so that you don't have distractions while taking pictures, but having an even bigger distraction of having to use a phone to change camera settings seem silly to me... If there would be at least a way to set the white balance...
Also the fake winding lever needs to go, I can't understand who would want it! It's like if tomorrow bmw would make a car with a fake half horse on the front! Or if apple would make a bakelite iphone base with rotary dial and a coiled cable!
"Or if apple would make a bakelite iphone base with rotary dial and a coiled cable!"
I'd buy one in a shot.
It's one of those 'Steampunk' things I wish I'd already got round to building
AlexisH: Maybe it's difficult to make a big camera look elegant, but this design seems to have embraced the bulkiness instead of attempting to hide it with some style.
Um, are you saying it doesn't look stylish enough?
It's got a red dot on the front. What more does it need on the stylish front?
Andy Findlay: What a shame it needs a google account. I won't be going there - I can't bring myself to trust them.
For example: www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-45792349
That was revealed today (October 8), but "According to a report in the Wall Street Journal, the company knew about the issue in March but did not disclose it."
'nuff said.