VirtualEye: There is an interview at systemkamera-forum.de with an PM of Oly and he said it is the same sensor of the em-1-II, introduced in 2016. Do you know another company who comes with 3 year old technique in new device in 2019 at such a high price point compared to fuji or sony? I am disappointed that there seems to be no sensor-progress over such a long period, sorry.
Shutter release buttons haven't changed much in 150 years.
Impulses: Can the 2x2 lever be mapped to on/off as on the E-M1 II? I might've thought about using it for exp. comp. in M with Auto ISO but since there's a button dedicated for that by default... I guess I'd probably remap it tho since it's kinda redundant in A/S if you have one of the dials already set to that (which used to be the default).
I tried a few different settings but now I have it set to manual focus. For me, that's perfect.
jim bennett: So my takeaway is that the in body IS only works for video and only in conjunction with lenses that already have IS? So it will not benefit lenses without IS or legacy non stabilized lenses. If true that is a huge miss for Canon. Probably on purpose but still, that really limits the effectiveness and is different than how most in body stabilization cameras work.
I doubt the IBIS is so restricted. I've been shooting IBIS for years with Olympus. Its a simple concept that even stabilizes 50 year old manual focus lenses. I don't see why Canon's IBIS would be that much worse than Olympus' or Panasonic's.
Samuel Dilworth: Disappointingly brief review, though useful for what it is.
I miss the super-comprehensive reviews with full menu listings and photos and comments on every button and lever. But I was probably one of three people who read those.
Jordan Stead’s photos are excellent and I especially enjoyed his comments on the first “Shooting Experience” page.
There is no perfect Micro Four Thirds camera – they each have amateurish flaws – but this one seems to get most of the important stuff right, provided the menus aren’t a show-stopper. As such, I’m greatly intrigued by it.
M0RJC: I'm struggling to choose between this and the Fuji X-T1, with the A6000 and A7 as outliers. I'm coming from a Nikon D90 and one requirement is a compact all weather camera. I do a fair amount in available light and tend to require fast wide primes to get the performance needed out of the D90 - so I'd hope this does better. The D90 isn't an option in the compare tool, but the examples in the compare tool look pretty good in comparison to what I'm used to.
I really liked the feel of the X-T1 and like the images, but may be losing some of that compactness as well as all the features. I've been nervous about the small sensor, also the lack of Phase Detect on this.
The Olympus can stabilize any lens (IBIS) - nice if you have any Nikon lenses you like DX or FF.
Nice shot. Reminds me of the years I spent in West Africa. A word of warning: you might want to skip Ghana if you want to continue further. Once you are there, you'll find yourself in pure paradise and you'll have little incentive to leave :).
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Milosh Kosanovich: I always hear that the biggest reason to switch to mirrorless, especially m4/3rd is to save weight. I think if you compare comparable equipment in terms of quality the difference can be measured in ounces. I never see any actual figures presented by any authors that write articles like this. What I think is really happening is that the m4/3 and mirrorless manufacturers are throwing a lot of money into the industry to promote their products. I'm going on 58 years old and I have no problem carrying around 15 lbs. of gear all day long. I have even carried around 2 DSLR bodies, a D700 with a grip and 'AA's in it, a D800E, as well as Nikon 14-24, 24-70, and 70-200 lenses, plus a flash, batteries, etc. all day long. I'd like the author to weigh his equipment, and then I'll weigh comparable equipment, and let's see just how much weight I'd save by spending a whole lot of money.
I like your point. I too have no trouble carrying around 15 lbs of gear either ... but I have gone m43. My D200 was aging so I gave m43 a shot. The reduced size is what sold me. However, m43 is a lot lighter - a lot!
timedrun: I dont know how much a yen is worth precisely, hopfully not a lot. but only a muppet would pay more than 200 quid for this.
Sorry EssexAsh - didn't mean to offend. I've always advocated complete socialized medical care for everyone -- except muppets. Seriously, I envy Europe.
If you need fast lenses that require manual focusing, then consider an f/1.2 legacy lens with an adapter for your M4/3 camera.
I just checked ebay, and found the following recent sales...
Canon FD 55mm f/1.2 lens in good condition..... $186 (in fact, there were several that sold for under $200) Nikon Non AI 55mm f/1.2 lens in good condition. $260 Minolta MD 50mm f/1.2 lens in good condition... $269
Agreed. I use an OM 50 1.4 for speed on my u43. The 0.95 lenses are expensive and really for a niche or for the rich.
SeeRoy: Here we go on the equivalence merry-go-round, the Möbius Strip of photographic discussions - to mix a metaphor (and why not? It's the interweb after all)
timedrun: I dont know how much a yen is worth precisely, hopfully not a lot. but only a muppet would pay more than 200 quid for this.
How much do UK muppets make? Do they get free health care too?Here in the states muppets are unpaid and the Republicans refused them coverage under Obamacare.
VirtualEye: There is an interview at systemkamera-forum.de with an PM of Oly and he said it is the same sensor of the em-1-II, introduced in 2016.
Do you know another company who comes with 3 year old technique in new device in 2019 at such a high price point compared to fuji or sony?
I am disappointed that there seems to be no sensor-progress over such a long period, sorry.
Shutter release buttons haven't changed much in 150 years.
Impulses: Can the 2x2 lever be mapped to on/off as on the E-M1 II? I might've thought about using it for exp. comp. in M with Auto ISO but since there's a button dedicated for that by default... I guess I'd probably remap it tho since it's kinda redundant in A/S if you have one of the dials already set to that (which used to be the default).
I tried a few different settings but now I have it set to manual focus. For me, that's perfect.
Yes, dusk. Is it not a "bluehourshot"?
jim bennett: So my takeaway is that the in body IS only works for video and only in conjunction with lenses that already have IS? So it will not benefit lenses without IS or legacy non stabilized lenses. If true that is a huge miss for Canon. Probably on purpose but still, that really limits the effectiveness and is different than how most in body stabilization cameras work.
I doubt the IBIS is so restricted. I've been shooting IBIS for years with Olympus. Its a simple concept that even stabilizes 50 year old manual focus lenses. I don't see why Canon's IBIS would be that much worse than Olympus' or Panasonic's.
Samuel Dilworth: Disappointingly brief review, though useful for what it is.
I miss the super-comprehensive reviews with full menu listings and photos and comments on every button and lever. But I was probably one of three people who read those.
Jordan Stead’s photos are excellent and I especially enjoyed his comments on the first “Shooting Experience” page.
There is no perfect Micro Four Thirds camera – they each have amateurish flaws – but this one seems to get most of the important stuff right, provided the menus aren’t a show-stopper. As such, I’m greatly intrigued by it.
No, there weren't three, just us two.
M0RJC: I'm struggling to choose between this and the Fuji X-T1, with the A6000 and A7 as outliers. I'm coming from a Nikon D90 and one requirement is a compact all weather camera. I do a fair amount in available light and tend to require fast wide primes to get the performance needed out of the D90 - so I'd hope this does better. The D90 isn't an option in the compare tool, but the examples in the compare tool look pretty good in comparison to what I'm used to.
I really liked the feel of the X-T1 and like the images, but may be losing some of that compactness as well as all the features. I've been nervous about the small sensor, also the lack of Phase Detect on this.
The Olympus can stabilize any lens (IBIS) - nice if you have any Nikon lenses you like DX or FF.
Nice shot. Reminds me of the years I spent in West Africa.
A word of warning: you might want to skip Ghana if you want to continue further. Once you are there, you'll find yourself in pure paradise and you'll have little incentive to leave :).
Milosh Kosanovich: I always hear that the biggest reason to switch to mirrorless, especially m4/3rd is to save weight. I think if you compare comparable equipment in terms of quality the difference can be measured in ounces. I never see any actual figures presented by any authors that write articles like this. What I think is really happening is that the m4/3 and mirrorless manufacturers are throwing a lot of money into the industry to promote their products. I'm going on 58 years old and I have no problem carrying around 15 lbs. of gear all day long. I have even carried around 2 DSLR bodies, a D700 with a grip and 'AA's in it, a D800E, as well as Nikon 14-24, 24-70, and 70-200 lenses, plus a flash, batteries, etc. all day long. I'd like the author to weigh his equipment, and then I'll weigh comparable equipment, and let's see just how much weight I'd save by spending a whole lot of money.
I like your point. I too have no trouble carrying around 15 lbs of gear either ... but I have gone m43. My D200 was aging so I gave m43 a shot. The reduced size is what sold me. However, m43 is a lot lighter - a lot!
timedrun: I dont know how much a yen is worth precisely, hopfully not a lot. but only a muppet would pay more than 200 quid for this.
Sorry EssexAsh - didn't mean to offend. I've always advocated complete socialized medical care for everyone -- except muppets. Seriously, I envy Europe.
Marty4650: I just want to throw this out.
If you need fast lenses that require manual focusing, then consider an f/1.2 legacy lens with an adapter for your M4/3 camera.
I just checked ebay, and found the following recent sales...
Canon FD 55mm f/1.2 lens in good condition..... $186
(in fact, there were several that sold for under $200)
Nikon Non AI 55mm f/1.2 lens in good condition. $260
Minolta MD 50mm f/1.2 lens in good condition... $269
Agreed. I use an OM 50 1.4 for speed on my u43. The 0.95 lenses are expensive and really for a niche or for the rich.
SeeRoy: Here we go on the equivalence merry-go-round, the Möbius Strip of photographic discussions - to mix a metaphor (and why not? It's the interweb after all)
Over three stops more work.
timedrun: I dont know how much a yen is worth precisely, hopfully not a lot. but only a muppet would pay more than 200 quid for this.
How much do UK muppets make? Do they get free health care too?Here in the states muppets are unpaid and the Republicans refused them coverage under Obamacare.