whiteheat

whiteheat

Lives in Australia Melbourne, Australia
Works as a Data Analyst
Joined on Jul 12, 2012

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whiteheat: This is a good deal. I think Nikon is trying to pull in new customers in and retain existing Nikonites with this deal before Sony and Canon launch their latest and greatest bodies which are going to look might powerful on paper at least. I think Nikon wants to stop the haemorrahing of its customer base to either Sony or Canon mirrorless world.

Oh! So not such a good deal then if you think a D750 can be sold for a much higher price than what you'd get from this trade in deal. But I suppose it does save you the hassle of getting it sold and shipped.
By "new customers", I was thinking about people either new to photography (not a large volume I grant you, as new entrants would be unlikely to start with such high end products) or existing DSLR users looking to go mirrorless, where they'd not be constrained by their current ecosystem.

Link | Posted on Feb 1, 2020 at 23:41 UTC

This is a good deal. I think Nikon is trying to pull in new customers in and retain existing Nikonites with this deal before Sony and Canon launch their latest and greatest bodies which are going to look might powerful on paper at least. I think Nikon wants to stop the haemorrahing of its customer base to either Sony or Canon mirrorless world.

Link | Posted on Feb 1, 2020 at 03:40 UTC as 24th comment | 2 replies
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blåland: Lets prey for more dynamic range.

@ChelseaPhotographer
It has never been confirmed that the 20MP sensor in the G5X was the same as that used in the earlier Sony RX100 models. However, even if it were the same one, it would be difficult to claim that the DR is either the same or that any difference is not noticeable between the 20MP 1" APSC sensor and the much earlier Sony 24MP full frame sensor. I do not believe that the difference would not be noticable.

Link | Posted on Jan 31, 2020 at 06:02 UTC
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blåland: Lets prey for more dynamic range.

More DR is always welcomed. I have a Sony and a Canon camera. The Sony camera is full DSLT. The Canon is a high end compact camera. I can't really say that the Canon's DR was noticeably worse than the Sony's. In fact, I couldn't tell the difference between images taken on either of them in terms of DR. It is too strong if not totally incorrect to say that; "Canon's DR still sucks." Clearly it does not suck.

Link | Posted on Jan 30, 2020 at 22:34 UTC
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bluevellet: Canon should just give up on the camera business and take their rightful place as a subservient lens maker for Sony.

/sarcasm

Sarcasm aside, that strategy has worked out well for Sigma and Tamron.

Link | Posted on Jan 30, 2020 at 22:18 UTC
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whiteheat: So when is this camera going to be available on the shelves, 2024? Sony will already have this baby beat senseless way before then.

I'm taking a good long draw right now (sound of burning plant material and inhaling).

Link | Posted on Jan 30, 2020 at 11:25 UTC
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whiteheat: So when is this camera going to be available on the shelves, 2024? Sony will already have this baby beat senseless way before then.

Which one? I have many. I usually smoke "the green stuff" when I hear wishful thinking being expressed.

Link | Posted on Jan 30, 2020 at 08:11 UTC
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MacroDonata: The Empire Strikes Back?

Oh, he left a number of years ago.

Link | Posted on Jan 30, 2020 at 08:09 UTC
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MacroDonata: The Empire Strikes Back?

No, more like the Last Jedi

Link | Posted on Jan 30, 2020 at 03:58 UTC
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whiteheat: So when is this camera going to be available on the shelves, 2024? Sony will already have this baby beat senseless way before then.

Sure, help yourself :)

Link | Posted on Jan 30, 2020 at 03:47 UTC

So when is this camera going to be available on the shelves, 2024? Sony will already have this baby beat senseless way before then.

Link | Posted on Jan 30, 2020 at 03:11 UTC as 41st comment | 7 replies
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retr01976: I predict this year we will see a rise in the popularity of Canon and Fuji systems and a sharp decline in Nikon and a slow decline in Sony. I think m43rds will begin its exit strategy and Olympus will surprise us by announcing a FF system very late in the year scheduled for 2021.

@ Astro
Continued.....

"And there's no way a player that had the whole market to themselves will keep growing at the same time after they start having fierce competition." Disagree with the premise of this statement. Sony never did have the whole market to themselves and Canikon entering the FF mirrorless ILC market does not in my book constitute "fierce competition".

"In the past, Sony grew a lot because people left CaNikon for Sony. That hole is plugged now. Those kind of people will stay with CaNikon now. Driving their sales, not Sony's." Agreed, although Sony's sales will be strong regardless as market share could be increased at the expense of other players, not just from Canikon disaffectees.

"Sony still has some lead over CaNikon, but that will disappear very quickly." This is just a fantasy statement, not based on any solid or conclusive evidence.

Link | Posted on Jan 4, 2020 at 21:43 UTC
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retr01976: I predict this year we will see a rise in the popularity of Canon and Fuji systems and a sharp decline in Nikon and a slow decline in Sony. I think m43rds will begin its exit strategy and Olympus will surprise us by announcing a FF system very late in the year scheduled for 2021.

@Astro
I really don't see how that can happen.

"The market as a whole is shrinking." Agreed
"The competitors entered the market." Agreed
"The competitors are as aggressive as Sony is." Well possibly, but not much relevancy here.

"You can't have a shrinking market and at the same time growth by all the players." Agreed, so this is not the case. At least not growth of exactly the same product types by all players but perhaps in each particular company's product segment, they can claim growth. If you sold one camera last year and sold two cameras this year, you got 100% growth, but you only sold two cameras.

Continued......

Link | Posted on Jan 4, 2020 at 21:41 UTC
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retr01976: I predict this year we will see a rise in the popularity of Canon and Fuji systems and a sharp decline in Nikon and a slow decline in Sony. I think m43rds will begin its exit strategy and Olympus will surprise us by announcing a FF system very late in the year scheduled for 2021.

@Astrotripper Like your moniker cos tripping seems to be what you have been doing. How is there a direct correlation between the numbers of your competitors and the sales potential your products have? Let me me spell it out for you. Sony seems to be producing the more in demand products than either Canon or Nikon are producing. Therefore, Sony's sales will continue to outstrip the competition. Usually (but not always), this means that Sony sales will be exhibiting growth. The competition's sales may also increase but will probably not do the numbers that Sony are going to do.

Link | Posted on Jan 2, 2020 at 02:40 UTC
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ozturert: Sony wins again!

Wins what exactly? All you can really say is that Sony will be beating Canon and Nikon in the mirrorless segment, yet again. But that's not really news is it?

Link | Posted on Jan 1, 2020 at 22:01 UTC
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retr01976: I predict this year we will see a rise in the popularity of Canon and Fuji systems and a sharp decline in Nikon and a slow decline in Sony. I think m43rds will begin its exit strategy and Olympus will surprise us by announcing a FF system very late in the year scheduled for 2021.

".....and a slow decline in Sony". My, that is an ambitious prediction. My prediction, another growth year for Sony and a sluggish year for Canon and Nikon, but a continued decline in ILC camera market across the board.

Link | Posted on Jan 1, 2020 at 21:56 UTC
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whiteheat: The camera on a mobile phone will never be able to capture an image as good optically or in a technical sense "better" than a single purpose designed device designed to capture images, in this case a compact camera (although there are variations in quality and competency in this field).

However, as others have already mentioned, this does not matter. The phone camera can easily take images that are good enough for most people's needs. Where the phone wins is in functionality and portability. The compact camera can only really do one thing, take images/photos. The phone by contrast can do a plethora of things depending on apps loaded, etc. People carry their phones with them virtually all the time. The compact camera is too big and bulky to be carried everywhere at all times. This is why the camera phone seems to win - because the best camera you have is the one you have on you and it can do so much more than take pictures.

The initial point I made was that the mobile camera phone is not equal to a dedicated camera device, according to most measures (equivalencies, quality, brands, etc, aside). The analogies were used to illustrate that point only. Otherwise, as mentioned in my original post, the mobile camera phone is adequate for most people's needs. One just needs to debunk the commonly propogated myth that a phone camera is now "as good as a traditional camera." In some cases, very few I suspect, that may be true. However, in the majority of cases, that patently cannot be true and can never be true. Hence my analogies to prove that point.

Link | Posted on Nov 16, 2019 at 01:29 UTC
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whiteheat: The camera on a mobile phone will never be able to capture an image as good optically or in a technical sense "better" than a single purpose designed device designed to capture images, in this case a compact camera (although there are variations in quality and competency in this field).

However, as others have already mentioned, this does not matter. The phone camera can easily take images that are good enough for most people's needs. Where the phone wins is in functionality and portability. The compact camera can only really do one thing, take images/photos. The phone by contrast can do a plethora of things depending on apps loaded, etc. People carry their phones with them virtually all the time. The compact camera is too big and bulky to be carried everywhere at all times. This is why the camera phone seems to win - because the best camera you have is the one you have on you and it can do so much more than take pictures.

Yep, pretty certain about that. A device not directly and deliberately designed to carry out one specific function will never out perform a device that has been so designed - quality, capability, brand, etc aside. This statement is predicated on comparison between technologically equivalent devices available at more or less the same time. Thus comparing a mobile phone camera with a current dedicated camera device is fine. Comparing a mobile phone camera to a box brownie camera circa 1900 is not. Another analogy would to advance the idea that a family saloon car with sporting intentions, think BMW M3 or Mercedes AMG 63, etc, will match or exceed speed performance of a Formula 1 car. To quote a colloquialism; "It ain't gonna happen in a month of Mondays."

Link | Posted on Nov 15, 2019 at 23:03 UTC

The camera on a mobile phone will never be able to capture an image as good optically or in a technical sense "better" than a single purpose designed device designed to capture images, in this case a compact camera (although there are variations in quality and competency in this field).

However, as others have already mentioned, this does not matter. The phone camera can easily take images that are good enough for most people's needs. Where the phone wins is in functionality and portability. The compact camera can only really do one thing, take images/photos. The phone by contrast can do a plethora of things depending on apps loaded, etc. People carry their phones with them virtually all the time. The compact camera is too big and bulky to be carried everywhere at all times. This is why the camera phone seems to win - because the best camera you have is the one you have on you and it can do so much more than take pictures.

Link | Posted on Nov 13, 2019 at 23:21 UTC as 75th comment | 5 replies

Just scanned all the comments (and even read some in-depth). I think the point has been missed. It isn't about the product itself being professional or a "pro" tool of some description. I believe the marketing intent is to portray the product as being used by professionals (the exact profession is immaterial). Thus if you as a consumer use the product, by imputation, you to are a professional. What's not to like. I must rush out to buy one/a pair, as I have an unfulfilled need to be validated as a professional.

Link | Posted on Oct 29, 2019 at 03:24 UTC as 180th comment | 2 replies
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