whiteheat

whiteheat

Lives in Australia Melbourne, Australia
Works as a Data Analyst
Joined on Jul 12, 2012

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On article Hands-on with the Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX10 IV (333 comments in total)
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Gregd548: Still too expensive for a fixed lens point & shoot... can buy a rather decent DSLR for that price!

@Cosmicnode. I don't disagree with you. Sorry, I missed the point of your last post. The QC process is much the same across manufacturers. But I can't let that comparison at the end of your last post slide. Kick that PL lens example to the curb. Laughable that you choose one of Zeiss' most expensive lenses. Try again. Much better to use Zeiss' own AF lenses - e.g. Batis range - as a comparitor. You'll find the pricing to be not just in the same ball park but in the same backyard as the Sony Zeiss branded lenses.

Link | Posted on Sep 15, 2017 at 07:33 UTC
On article Hands-on with the Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX10 IV (333 comments in total)
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Gregd548: Still too expensive for a fixed lens point & shoot... can buy a rather decent DSLR for that price!

@xiao_xiang. No, I have to strongly disagree. If you read the Zeiss quote, Zeiss are saying that there is no practical difference by any measure between a Sony Zeiss and a standard Zeiss.

Link | Posted on Sep 15, 2017 at 02:45 UTC
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rainrunner: So if we do wildlife photography, will we be required to pay that wildlife a modeling fee?

It has been establish that wildlife cannot own property ;)

Link | Posted on Sep 15, 2017 at 01:23 UTC
On article Hands-on with the Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX10 IV (333 comments in total)
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Gregd548: Still too expensive for a fixed lens point & shoot... can buy a rather decent DSLR for that price!

@Cosmicnode. Another erroneous concept is that Sony Zeiss lens are not the same, that is, inferior to, Zeiss lenses. If you see the link to the Zeiss website;
http://lenspire.zeiss.com/en/sony-and-zeiss-what-photographers-should-know-about-the-partnership/

You will see that Sony Zeiss lenses are just Zeiss lenses produced at Sony factories. The characteristics, such as the glass, components, fit and finish are all Zeiss certified, it has to meet and be at Zeiss standards:

"Is the quality of both lines identical?

In all its brand partnerships, ZEISS sets the technical and quality standards to which partners, such as Sony, must adhere. ZEISS regularly audits the production process of Sony/ZEISS lenses in Sony’s factories. ZEISS experts examine the production processes, management systems and measuring installations. ZEISS certifies the suppliers and provides all the equipment that is needed to ensure product quality, including the equipment of third-party suppliers."

Link | Posted on Sep 15, 2017 at 01:22 UTC
On article Hands-on with the Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX10 IV (333 comments in total)
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Gregd548: Still too expensive for a fixed lens point & shoot... can buy a rather decent DSLR for that price!

@xiao_xiang. You may well be right. However, I was just disputing the OP assertion that a new "rather decent" dslr + 600mm EFL Zeiss lens does not come in at under $1,700. That is the point. Sure other options are available at greater or lesser costs. However, the combination of camera characteristics and features combined with a Zeiss lens as represented by the RX10 cannot be had as another option for a lesser price.

@Cosmicnode. Erroneous argument to begin with because the term "rather decent" is not defined, so no point in arguing anything based on a specific alternative that may qualify as "rather decent" as this leaves the whole field open. Eg, a simple P&S could be classed as rather decent. Similarly, any DSLR could be classed as "rather decent", so it is useless to base an argument on cost of a package where the comparisons have such a wide price differential.

Link | Posted on Sep 15, 2017 at 01:12 UTC
On article Hands-on with the Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX10 IV (333 comments in total)
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Gregd548: Still too expensive for a fixed lens point & shoot... can buy a rather decent DSLR for that price!

@cosmicnode. You may be right in saying that you can get a DSLR with a zoom lens that goes to 600mm EFL for a lot less than $1,700. However, how much is "a lot less", $1, $10, $20, etc? Also, the OP stated that "a rather decent DSLR" could be got for the same price. "Rather decent" is open to debate, however, as soon as the DSLR leaves consumer grade for what most people could interpret as 'rather decent', that is mid to top tier, then no, I find it hard to believe that you could get a "rather decent" DSLR with a Zeiss lens with a 600mm EFL, for the same or less money.

Link | Posted on Sep 14, 2017 at 07:27 UTC
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Retzius: Did anyone bring the monkey into court and ask it its thoughts on the matter? That would have promptly ended the discussion of the monkey's "intellectual" property rights.

Unfortunately, intellect has nothing to do with property rights, intellectual or otherwise. Just look at the proponents of this legal action. Is that organisation exhibiting a rational intellect?

Link | Posted on Sep 13, 2017 at 23:31 UTC
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SmilerGrogan: It does raise an interesting question about whether any animal has the consciousness to be considered an author, but that's for a legislature to decide, not a judge.
For instance, I would argue that Koko the signing gorilla is capable of the higher mental processing power to be considered a real photographer. And as I've spent more and more time with dogs and cats it is clear to me that they definitely have a level of self awareness equivalent to that of my stoner friends... but is that enough to consider them creators?
The true test would be the octopus because we know that many of them are at least as smart as humans, unfortunately they don't seem to have any interest in photography.

@Dave Andrade. Well, as long as those photos were soft, strong and absorbent, I'm sure the monkey would have found an excellent and practical use for them.

Link | Posted on Sep 13, 2017 at 23:18 UTC
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Retzius: Did anyone bring the monkey into court and ask it its thoughts on the matter? That would have promptly ended the discussion of the monkey's "intellectual" property rights.

Well apparently they tried to subpoena him/her, but unfortunately for Slater, the individual monkey did not leave a forwarding address. It also turns out that said monkey did not have a social security number, a medicare number or tax ident, nor could he/she prove nationality or residency status, allowing him/her to just blend into the monkey crowd as though they he/she never existed, after all, they all look the same right?

Link | Posted on Sep 13, 2017 at 23:15 UTC
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rainrunner: So if we do wildlife photography, will we be required to pay that wildlife a modeling fee?

Not sure about African Savannah laws, but here in Australia, the wildlife don't have a leg to stand on. According to law, no one has the right not to be photographed in a public area on public ground. So, assuming the wildlife does not have overriding rights (over humans that is or special protective rights etc,) and assuming that said wildlife are in a "public" place, they have no expectation of privacy and can therefore be photographed (or shot?) at will.

Link | Posted on Sep 13, 2017 at 23:06 UTC
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Silvex: The problem with the PETA types is they have a mental disease. They have allowed an obsessive-compulsive love for creatures take over to the point where they have personified animals. In this alternate reality state they conflate the same value and characteristics of humans to creatures.

This form of psychosis can only exist in a society where people are completely disconnected from harvesting their food and where animals have no practical use in their daily lives (other than pets). The antidote for all of this would to have our kids experience farm life growing up somehow. Or teach them to hunt and eat what they kill.

@Silvex. I like it. Great application of unsupported but seemingly rational logic.
@AstroStan. Touche. Great response.

Link | Posted on Sep 13, 2017 at 22:58 UTC
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fullstop: Gollum had something similiar to a iphone X..... he sorta went off the rails

Hahahaha! How did you think that one up? :)

Link | Posted on Sep 12, 2017 at 23:20 UTC
On article Hands-on with the Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX10 IV (333 comments in total)
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Gregd548: Still too expensive for a fixed lens point & shoot... can buy a rather decent DSLR for that price!

.....not with a Zeiss lens attached you can't.

Link | Posted on Sep 12, 2017 at 23:03 UTC
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35mmBlueSky: After a $11,000 price drop to $14,995, it's still $10,000 too expensive, enough said.

Well, actually there may be a case of the image quality now achievable by the latest crop of top shelf FF 35mm taking business away from Medium Format? That's in addition to Medium Format's own internal competition with Fuji now offering up a worthy competitor.

Link | Posted on Sep 11, 2017 at 23:29 UTC

These are going to be phenomenally expensive north of $600 a pop. I wager there are cheaper options out there that will deliver the same or almost the same results for $00s less than these. Still, if you have the cash to burn and you shoot in bright to very sunny conditions, these should deliver what is required.

Link | Posted on Aug 24, 2017 at 01:25 UTC as 2nd comment | 1 reply
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Will1355: Please stop this competition between camera brands. There are no bad cameras only bad photographers. Best pro, best compact etc is all BS in my opinion.

@Will1355. You are right of course. However, human nature being what it is, fuels the requirement for A vs B vs C, etc. Most people usually want the latest and greatest in and of everything, cameras not excluded. Joe average is partially to blame for this state of being, for example, how many times do you hear of nubies on various photographic fora ask questions that begin with: "I was wandering WHAT IS THE BEST; camera, lens, or whatever, currently available". Therefore, 'we' as humans naturally want there to be " a best" or winning article of whatever it is in question, thinking we want the best bang for buck, features, image quality, etc. These reviewers are only responding to (as well as fuelling) the need for a Highlander solution, that is, there can be only one (winner, top dog, etc), The reality is that there is "no single best on the market", all are good. Unfortunately, the reality of the status quo is somewhat at variance with the perception of the status quo.

Link | Posted on Aug 17, 2017 at 11:07 UTC
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Nick Brundle - Photography: I always thought EISA stood for "Everton Independent Supporters Association"
As in the football club "Everton" in the premier league in England.

Haha. Nice one.

Link | Posted on Aug 17, 2017 at 00:47 UTC
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The Davinator: In other news, Nikon beat Canon in prosumer camera category. In other news, Fuji beat Canon in consumer compact camera. In other news, Sony beat Canon in the Camera category, the compact category and the superzoom category.

In other words, the real news here is not Canon at all....it is Sony....who beat Canon in multiple categories.

...lies, damn lies and then there's how news is presented. Obviously, the reviewer was still in the mindset that the readership in the main, are Canikonites and so will care more so about how the one is doing relative to the other, rather than how either are doing in comparison to other manufacturers. All the other manufactures are automatically relegated to 'also ran category'. These reviewers need to wake up to the fact that it is now Canon and Nikon that are heading in to (if not already in) the 'also ran' category.

Link | Posted on Aug 17, 2017 at 00:46 UTC
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MikeStern: What a useless headline mentioning Canon vs. Nikon while Sony breaking records with 7 awards including the A9's amazing success.

What's wrong with you DPreview. Come to your senses.

That's an acute observation. A sort of straw man headline.

Link | Posted on Aug 17, 2017 at 00:27 UTC
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Duncan D: seriously ? Sony's 70-200..... ??!!!!

Ever used one and viewed the results?

Link | Posted on Aug 17, 2017 at 00:25 UTC
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