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18mm DX pancake lens when, Nikon? :P
Pretty underwhelming camera from an experienced photographer like myself. 2nd hand G9/EM1iii might be a better deal tbh. Might be a good deal for newcomers esp since MFT used lenses are dirt cheap.
motormatic: The review states: "For E-M10 III or IV owners looking to upgrade to something newer, it seems like there's just not enough here to justify the cost."
I would disagree.
As an E-M10 (og) owner of 7 years who switched to the E-M5iii last year (at the $899 Black Friday price) it was worth getting PDAF and ProCapture as I could not get reliable focusing for wildlife, birds in particular. Shooting sports or kids and pets running around also benfit from those two features. If I had an E-M10ii, iii or iv it still would have been worth it for the same reasons. Getting back the button programmability lost with the E-M10iii/iv is another big reason to upgrade.
as a Mk II user, I agree with that statement. The body alone price is pretty exorbitant tbh.
Astrotripper: "For E-M10 III or IV owners looking to upgrade to something newer, it seems like there's just not enough here to justify the cost."
LOL, what kind of nonsense is that? This is almost the same as writing that that the previous flagship (E-M1 III) could not justify the upgrade from E-M10.
It's like writing that Fuji X-T200 users have no reason to upgrade to X-T4.
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I actually agree with that statement, as a E-M10 II user. Probably would opt for a good deal 2nd hand E-M1 II at the rate things are going lolz.
Davud: Good camera if it was 800$.
$699 would be more accurate.
Hexlord79: Can we have a list of these Youtubers/Armchair Financial analyst folks who in the past been commenting on "Nikon being Dead"? I am curious to see their channels lolz.
So end of the day nobody can come up with any names???
Can we have a list of these Youtubers/Armchair Financial analyst folks who in the past been commenting on "Nikon being Dead"? I am curious to see their channels lolz.
I am perfectly fine with the current version of ACDSee Photo Studio Professional. But Free looks compelling on some of my other rigs.
Mortal Lion: Last Nikon DSLR was announced Januari 2020, the D780. D6 in 2019, D3500 in 2018. They are just selling old models because some people haven't gotten the message about mirrorless yet.
I agree with Maoby in that sense. I am still considering the move to the Z system due to cost/performance/supply concerns.
Meanwhile, I am in the ML world now thanks to cheap M43 camera/lenses. :P
odeiraoloap: I'm not sure that Nikon "allegedly" going all-in on mirrorless is a good idea, though; the MILC market has been consolidating for a while now, and their "compact" Z-series is not lighting the market up, either.
I mean, Sony has practically GIVEN UP on the "compact" MILCs (A6X00 series; their last model was released in 2019, and the "2021" ZV-E10 is just an A6300 with the EVF removed and even worse rolling shutter), and are seemingly only committing to the $5000+ FFs, e.g., A1. Fuji seems to have a vise grip on the MILC market right now (with the X-S10 and new XTs). Other than that, Canon has walked off the M-series and OMDS is basically RIP'd.
Where exactly can Nikon thrive in the extremely crowded (and consolidated) MILC market? They don't have a ton of unique differentiators...š§
Sadly the main driving revenue for cameras are from the higher end side.
Entry level stuff are too expensive... might as well use a smartphone lol.
Gorky0210: Itās still nascent to see ML going ahead of dslr cameras , at least for outdoor photography, though tech would catch up on ML side. When itās matter of seeing the āpainting in the wallā , itās ML thatās coming on. But Nikon India a I feel is having good demand of dslr as of know.
I feel if there is still a appreciable interest left in dslr in photographers
Then y would Nikon not take the benefit of this almost void where it is almost sole boy standing and still have products which are good.
Marketing is more of a reason than ML popularity than a pure technology, maybe this is changing rapidly. the video format, if all r inclined towards it may already have ML a notch higher than dslr, but image quality is still at par , thought additional focus points and low light performance and maybe other additional updates r already showing up ahead.
But as a photographer dslr are yet not to neglected and Nikon will not move out as early s possible.
Talking about India, recently there's a lot of YT videos about DSLRs there. Their camera market is still flooded with many entry level models.
Would consider getting one if the price's more reasonable like USD 299 for body only, 400 with kit lens.
EXkurogane: I can already tell there are no Sonys the moment I saw the title lol
God it was awful no matter which model I got my hands on
@3Percent -> No camera systems are perfect. But honestly Sony's camera handling is one of their weakest point imo.
KM-era and the subsequent A-mount bodies were great fun back then.
EXkurogane: I can already tell there are no Sonys the moment I saw the title lol
God it was awful no matter which model I got my hands on
I am pretty sure that my Oly cameras are smaller than your Sonys. :P
And you still end up using a L-plate to compensate for your flawed system right? While I only need to bring it out for a few specific purposes... seems like you need to carry it around all the time. ;)
EXkurogane: I can already tell there are no Sonys the moment I saw the title lol
God it was awful no matter which model I got my hands on
Every amount counts. :P
Incidentally I am getting a L-plate but that's for use on my tripod. No need for it to be doubled up as a grip since my Nikons and Olys have pretty good handling unlike the Sonys.
Just to add that the Olys have small bodies but holding them has been good so far. Cheers.
EXkurogane: I can already tell there are no Sonys the moment I saw the title lol
God it was awful no matter which model I got my hands on
Why the need to pay a bit extra when they could have revamped the flawed design of the base camera from the get go?
Also isn't a L-plate used on a tripod for some specific purposes? Definitely not something to use for general photography usage.
EXkurogane: I can already tell there are no Sonys the moment I saw the title lol
God it was awful no matter which model I got my hands on
The original A-mount camera bodies were pretty decent.
I was at a Sony concept shop recently, they had a bunch of the current gen E-mount bodies ranging from the A7c to the A1. Had a chance to try them all and ultimately the handling is (to me) pretty bad... my last finger having nothing to hold onto.
trungtran: Top seller on Amazon is still a rebel.
Don't forget the entry level customers. A new customer may be a future customer. Your existing base will die and it will be even harder to convince people to use dedicated cameras in the future.
"In Nikons latest report it was all clear. They said more mirrorless cameras were bought than they sold DSLRs. Besides the fact that they mentioned to move on to mid- and high range MILC as this is where the market is growing to."
Seriously people think that the camera market is growing? Isn't it more like shrinking at the rate things are going?
Digmen1: I am with those of you who think that the FF manufacturers need an entry level FF or a couple of APS-C cameras to get people into serious photography and into their system.
But the price of entry level mirrorless cameras is much higher than low end DSLRS ever were.
... which led to people just buying a smartphone for their general photography anyway.
Sad reality of life.
mclaren777: Canon should celebrate by announcing a 5D Mark V.
Another Rebel would be nice. :P