Zeee

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Got a new 400 DO II last week. Peak Design was suggested to me at a few sites but my gut feeling was not there. I went with UPstrap Pro.

Link | Posted on Jun 8, 2018 at 05:47 UTC as 19th comment

I have talked to Chris and buy quite a bit of gear from the Camera store.

Link | Posted on May 1, 2018 at 13:06 UTC as 43rd comment
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dqnielg: Good competition for Adobe is the only way prices won't continue to balloon. Even if you aren't a DxO user it's probably in your interest to hope they are able to continue releasing and supporting products.

Please provide examples of the prices. I guess you don't have any. Profits have nothing to do with peoples ballooning prices because that doesn't exist. People just love to hate successful well managed companies. There are all types of companies that make tons of money off you. Walk the talk and stop purchasing from profitable companies today.

Link | Posted on May 1, 2018 at 11:52 UTC
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dqnielg: Good competition for Adobe is the only way prices won't continue to balloon. Even if you aren't a DxO user it's probably in your interest to hope they are able to continue releasing and supporting products.

Please show examples of continuing ballooning prices.

Link | Posted on May 1, 2018 at 01:07 UTC
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Zeee: Wow the anti Adobe trolls, haters because they can't pirate anymore, ones who don't even own Adobe products or don't own an effected plan are sure out in full force today.

First as usual incorrect information is all over the web saying the basic plan had a 30% increase. People as usual posting without providing details. The basic plan was not effected. Will it go up one day. Sure it will. Everything goes up.

The increases are about 6%. That was 5 years before this increase. 6% for $9.99 would make it $10.59. Oh my god. Time to slit the wrists. Guess the wife will not be able to go out for lunch with her friends anymore. We will see how long it takes and how much the basic plan will be.

If you don't like it use something else. People spend thousands and thousands on expensive precision camera gear and are so proud how they saved $100 and get an inferior developer. There was a list of 10 competitors going around the forums a few months ago. What is stopping all of you?

Fair enough. Thanks for the reply.

Link | Posted on Mar 15, 2018 at 17:01 UTC
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Zeee: Wow the anti Adobe trolls, haters because they can't pirate anymore, ones who don't even own Adobe products or don't own an effected plan are sure out in full force today.

First as usual incorrect information is all over the web saying the basic plan had a 30% increase. People as usual posting without providing details. The basic plan was not effected. Will it go up one day. Sure it will. Everything goes up.

The increases are about 6%. That was 5 years before this increase. 6% for $9.99 would make it $10.59. Oh my god. Time to slit the wrists. Guess the wife will not be able to go out for lunch with her friends anymore. We will see how long it takes and how much the basic plan will be.

If you don't like it use something else. People spend thousands and thousands on expensive precision camera gear and are so proud how they saved $100 and get an inferior developer. There was a list of 10 competitors going around the forums a few months ago. What is stopping all of you?

Again to the members who were actually effected. How many will take their moral high ground and not pass part or all of this increase to customers. Doesn't seem to hard with $36 per year.

How many members not effected would take the moral high ground. Don't lie now. If a hobbyist can afford $50 a month for 20+ apps I doubt $3 will matter much. The butler will take care of it.

Link | Posted on Mar 15, 2018 at 15:59 UTC
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Zeee: Wow the anti Adobe trolls, haters because they can't pirate anymore, ones who don't even own Adobe products or don't own an effected plan are sure out in full force today.

First as usual incorrect information is all over the web saying the basic plan had a 30% increase. People as usual posting without providing details. The basic plan was not effected. Will it go up one day. Sure it will. Everything goes up.

The increases are about 6%. That was 5 years before this increase. 6% for $9.99 would make it $10.59. Oh my god. Time to slit the wrists. Guess the wife will not be able to go out for lunch with her friends anymore. We will see how long it takes and how much the basic plan will be.

If you don't like it use something else. People spend thousands and thousands on expensive precision camera gear and are so proud how they saved $100 and get an inferior developer. There was a list of 10 competitors going around the forums a few months ago. What is stopping all of you?

Why do they use it RubberDials?

Here is a quote from FM. I know we can fly to Europe from NA for that amount.

I have a relative who owned a printing company. Adobe was the consensus (monopolistic) driver in the industry at the time, as is now. His seats cost $1400 per year for the complete Adobe suite to provide license, updates and maintenance. He bought a enough seats for the business, that when the subscription plans came out he saved enough for him and his wife to have a nice European vacation every year. I asked him at the time of Adobe's switch if there was a good alternative to LR/PS, the answer was a complete NO.

So perhaps pirating is still rampant Vik. I admit I don't know much about it except for people I've talked to that are complaining. Does not seem to be hurting Adobe.

Link | Posted on Mar 15, 2018 at 15:54 UTC
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Zeee: Wow the anti Adobe trolls, haters because they can't pirate anymore, ones who don't even own Adobe products or don't own an effected plan are sure out in full force today.

First as usual incorrect information is all over the web saying the basic plan had a 30% increase. People as usual posting without providing details. The basic plan was not effected. Will it go up one day. Sure it will. Everything goes up.

The increases are about 6%. That was 5 years before this increase. 6% for $9.99 would make it $10.59. Oh my god. Time to slit the wrists. Guess the wife will not be able to go out for lunch with her friends anymore. We will see how long it takes and how much the basic plan will be.

If you don't like it use something else. People spend thousands and thousands on expensive precision camera gear and are so proud how they saved $100 and get an inferior developer. There was a list of 10 competitors going around the forums a few months ago. What is stopping all of you?

To your spending thousands reply I read a post at FM where someone saved thousands when they went to subscription. I have read posts from members here who make a living using Adobe products say subscription was the best thing that ever happened. I'm talking about the multiple app plans. However you have to choose what works best for you.

Link | Posted on Mar 14, 2018 at 18:10 UTC
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Zeee: Wow the anti Adobe trolls, haters because they can't pirate anymore, ones who don't even own Adobe products or don't own an effected plan are sure out in full force today.

First as usual incorrect information is all over the web saying the basic plan had a 30% increase. People as usual posting without providing details. The basic plan was not effected. Will it go up one day. Sure it will. Everything goes up.

The increases are about 6%. That was 5 years before this increase. 6% for $9.99 would make it $10.59. Oh my god. Time to slit the wrists. Guess the wife will not be able to go out for lunch with her friends anymore. We will see how long it takes and how much the basic plan will be.

If you don't like it use something else. People spend thousands and thousands on expensive precision camera gear and are so proud how they saved $100 and get an inferior developer. There was a list of 10 competitors going around the forums a few months ago. What is stopping all of you?

How many will truthfully say they will not pass this increase on to customers? I don't like how the world works either but I dislike random bashing of any product and this is what happens here. This site is by far is the worst. Everyone has a choice to use a different company.

Why are the basic plan owners complaining? This is no different than all the speculation that you had to use cloud storage with LR Classic CC when it came out and Adobe would one day send a family members finger in a box demanding ransom to get your files back. That went on for months.

Link | Posted on Mar 14, 2018 at 17:53 UTC
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Zeee: Wow the anti Adobe trolls, haters because they can't pirate anymore, ones who don't even own Adobe products or don't own an effected plan are sure out in full force today.

First as usual incorrect information is all over the web saying the basic plan had a 30% increase. People as usual posting without providing details. The basic plan was not effected. Will it go up one day. Sure it will. Everything goes up.

The increases are about 6%. That was 5 years before this increase. 6% for $9.99 would make it $10.59. Oh my god. Time to slit the wrists. Guess the wife will not be able to go out for lunch with her friends anymore. We will see how long it takes and how much the basic plan will be.

If you don't like it use something else. People spend thousands and thousands on expensive precision camera gear and are so proud how they saved $100 and get an inferior developer. There was a list of 10 competitors going around the forums a few months ago. What is stopping all of you?

Go ahead. I don't care. That has all been hashed out over and over again in the retouching forums. Never ends. When you supply the most versatile products and make lots of money you are a target.

How many members posting here were actually effected by the latest announcement. I'd like to hear from photogs, businesses, etc who earn money have to say about a $3 a month increase however I don't believe I'll get a lot of truthful answers. What I mean is people who don't own the product will claim they do. Sure $3 is nothing to sneeze at but if an annual increase of $36 is going to kill your business then maybe there should be some re-evaluating.

Link | Posted on Mar 14, 2018 at 17:52 UTC
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GodSpeaks: So now it starts. Adobe will slowly start increasing subscription fees, and anyone who thinks the photography packages will remain at $10 is fooling only themselves.
This is why I intensely dislike (and flat out refuse to participate in) subscription software. In addition to the monthly payments, there is also the price creep.

I know what you are trying to do and it won't work.

Link | Posted on Mar 14, 2018 at 17:16 UTC
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GodSpeaks: So now it starts. Adobe will slowly start increasing subscription fees, and anyone who thinks the photography packages will remain at $10 is fooling only themselves.
This is why I intensely dislike (and flat out refuse to participate in) subscription software. In addition to the monthly payments, there is also the price creep.

Nice to see you are continuing this conversation in a civil manner. I hope they increase it 50% just to get rid of you. Have a nice day.

Link | Posted on Mar 14, 2018 at 16:59 UTC
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Zeee: Wow the anti Adobe trolls, haters because they can't pirate anymore, ones who don't even own Adobe products or don't own an effected plan are sure out in full force today.

First as usual incorrect information is all over the web saying the basic plan had a 30% increase. People as usual posting without providing details. The basic plan was not effected. Will it go up one day. Sure it will. Everything goes up.

The increases are about 6%. That was 5 years before this increase. 6% for $9.99 would make it $10.59. Oh my god. Time to slit the wrists. Guess the wife will not be able to go out for lunch with her friends anymore. We will see how long it takes and how much the basic plan will be.

If you don't like it use something else. People spend thousands and thousands on expensive precision camera gear and are so proud how they saved $100 and get an inferior developer. There was a list of 10 competitors going around the forums a few months ago. What is stopping all of you?

Besides have seen where Adobe is headed with new products? They are sitting around. There is stuff no one else is even close to. I don't need it but one day I may. Anyone felling left behind should find a product that better suits their needs. The cancel plan button is 20 seconds away.

Link | Posted on Mar 14, 2018 at 16:53 UTC
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Zeee: Wow the anti Adobe trolls, haters because they can't pirate anymore, ones who don't even own Adobe products or don't own an effected plan are sure out in full force today.

First as usual incorrect information is all over the web saying the basic plan had a 30% increase. People as usual posting without providing details. The basic plan was not effected. Will it go up one day. Sure it will. Everything goes up.

The increases are about 6%. That was 5 years before this increase. 6% for $9.99 would make it $10.59. Oh my god. Time to slit the wrists. Guess the wife will not be able to go out for lunch with her friends anymore. We will see how long it takes and how much the basic plan will be.

If you don't like it use something else. People spend thousands and thousands on expensive precision camera gear and are so proud how they saved $100 and get an inferior developer. There was a list of 10 competitors going around the forums a few months ago. What is stopping all of you?

That is a valid response. You are dealing with facts rather than just random Adobe bashing. That is not a new issue and I have found an improvement with 7.2.

This thread is about a price increase - period. How many members here are using the all apps plan or the higher ones. How many are posting that do not have a subscription or are using the basic plan that was not effected by the price increase? If it is about performance issues start a new thread. I'm not saying this about you. Just a general statement.

Link | Posted on Mar 14, 2018 at 16:46 UTC
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GodSpeaks: So now it starts. Adobe will slowly start increasing subscription fees, and anyone who thinks the photography packages will remain at $10 is fooling only themselves.
This is why I intensely dislike (and flat out refuse to participate in) subscription software. In addition to the monthly payments, there is also the price creep.

So to summarize it you are in a country who's currency is weaker and your business will fail due to a $3 US increase I'm pretty sure it would have failed anyway.

Should be be happy? Are we ever happy with any increases to anything? We have choices. Use them and stop complaining. Not you - the general population.

Link | Posted on Mar 14, 2018 at 16:30 UTC
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GodSpeaks: So now it starts. Adobe will slowly start increasing subscription fees, and anyone who thinks the photography packages will remain at $10 is fooling only themselves.
This is why I intensely dislike (and flat out refuse to participate in) subscription software. In addition to the monthly payments, there is also the price creep.

True but how do we know it will be $12? That would be a 20% increase. It took 5 years for Adobe to raise the all app plan 6%.

How may are actually effected? How many hobbyists own the 49.99 a month plan. I could not justify that unless it was part of my income. If so then you can write it off.

That and higher plans are more pro and commercial based. How many businesses are in here complaining and are going to drop the plan because of $3 a month?

Here is quote from a member at FM

I have a relative who owned a printing company. Adobe was the consensus (monopolistic) driver in the industry at the time, as is now. His seats cost $1400 per year for the complete Adobe suite to provide license, updates and maintenance. He bought a enough seats for the business, that when the subscription plans came out he saved enough for him and his wife to have a nice European vacation every year.

Link | Posted on Mar 14, 2018 at 16:25 UTC

Wow the anti Adobe trolls, haters because they can't pirate anymore, ones who don't even own Adobe products or don't own an effected plan are sure out in full force today.

First as usual incorrect information is all over the web saying the basic plan had a 30% increase. People as usual posting without providing details. The basic plan was not effected. Will it go up one day. Sure it will. Everything goes up.

The increases are about 6%. That was 5 years before this increase. 6% for $9.99 would make it $10.59. Oh my god. Time to slit the wrists. Guess the wife will not be able to go out for lunch with her friends anymore. We will see how long it takes and how much the basic plan will be.

If you don't like it use something else. People spend thousands and thousands on expensive precision camera gear and are so proud how they saved $100 and get an inferior developer. There was a list of 10 competitors going around the forums a few months ago. What is stopping all of you?

Link | Posted on Mar 14, 2018 at 16:03 UTC as 33rd comment | 17 replies
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raztec: If you don't think Adobe will not raise the price of the photographers package in the future, and keep on raising it, you are deluded.

As fewer people sign on to the subscription based model, Adobe will have no choice but to raise the monthly price to keep profits the same.

This is why it's important to never become beholden to one company.

Of course it will go up. The price of milk went up so now my grandkids are drinking beer.

The increases are about 6%. That was 5 years before the increase. 6% for $9.99 would l make it $10.59. Oh my god. Time to slit the wrists. We will see how long it takes and how much.

Boy the anti Adobe trolls, haters because they can't pirate, ones who don't even own Adobe products or don't own an effected plan are sure out in full force today,

Stop whining and use something else.

Link | Posted on Mar 14, 2018 at 15:18 UTC
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GodSpeaks: So now it starts. Adobe will slowly start increasing subscription fees, and anyone who thinks the photography packages will remain at $10 is fooling only themselves.
This is why I intensely dislike (and flat out refuse to participate in) subscription software. In addition to the monthly payments, there is also the price creep.

6% increase every 5 years. So my $9.99 plan will be about $10.59. I guess I won't be able to take the grandkids to McDonald's.

Link | Posted on Mar 14, 2018 at 15:09 UTC
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tom1234567: so customers with standalone version can whistle they get left behind as per

Adobe rip off,
NOW we see how Adobe treats customers they try to force them to upgrade to the
pay monthly version, or they get no updates.
shame on you Adobe.
CUSTOMERS SHOULD WAKE UP AND LEAVE ADOBE WHAT MORE PROOF DO WE NEED.
YOU CAN NOW SEE HOW ADOBE TREATS LOYAL CUSTOMERS,
its all about shareholders with them customers are 2nd priority

Tom G Scotland

What are you worried about. You won't be using it.

Link | Posted on Feb 6, 2018 at 03:40 UTC
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