Le Kilt

Just turn the screen round so that it faces outwards... : : : : ;-)

LOL, clearly you have a thing against tilt/swivel screens by calling it flappy.

Wrong, the camera will choose one of the focusing points, and the subject there will be in focus, as well as anything at the same distance. Anything in front of, or behind that focusing distance ...

LOL, the only things left are the 12MP of the sensor and "EOS". Sounds like you want 12Mp version of the 5D IV with a tilt screen.

Yes, in fact you can fit an EOS 30 back on a 5D and get good results with Ektachrome 25.

4K is not just software, it also needs a high bandwith and can be a great heat generator.

It's when you feel something close to sensuality when you shoot with it... ;-)

Havea good play with a Sony or two first, some still prefer the real SLR for viewing, others don't mind the EVFs. 5DIV? Yeah!

That's curious, you should get better details and results with the 80D, which has much more reach when shooting distant birds etc.  Although you do need to keep the shutter speed high.

But will the Nikon have a full swivel touch screen?  If not; switch to Canon... ;-)

Gosh, ban first, whether or not you're able to prove anything???   Glad you're not the hangman. I think you're degrading the forum, therefore you should obviously be banned from the Internet during ...

LOL, go back and follow the thread. Canon would degrade the quality on purpose?  ROFLMAO with tears in my eyes!

Interesting to remember that the 5D was Canon's third FF DSLR, and Nikon had none at the time.  The 3rd best DSLR in the world...!?  (at the time of course!)

Slouch - Yes, I am so sorry, I meant to say balderdash!

Sounds like a marketting guy selecting weird odds and ends to make a point and leaving other great features in the dark.  Hey this is a unique camera, try finding ANY other FF camera out there ...

Personnally I still have a trusted 5DII for FF (and have had 5DIII and 1D-X).  I'm not in any immeadiate hurry, but would have grabbed a 5DIV already if it had the swivel screen, now I want both a ...

IQ will probably get a nice boost from resolution, but patience and waiting for more feedback  is a good thing when a new camera is released! It's urgent to wait... ;-)

Both 6D and 5D2 are good cameras that will give you the FF wide angle you're looking for. P.S. keep the 70D for distant stuff, wildlife, birds etc. P.P.S. The 6D will handle more like a 70D and ...

Absolutely :-) 6D users will upgrade (and I predict many of them) for better AF, resolution, swivel touch screen... I would think 80D users might add a 6DII to their gear for better wide angle ...

Rubbish, the ad suggests you get that can film that with a simple iPhone, you might always have your smartphone with you, but you don't happen to have a large expensive professionnal cinema lens...