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3.99mm focal length, same as iPhone 7, so 1/3" sensor diagonal.
DPreview staff : can you check this, as Apple state on their own website the sensor is larger ?

Link | Posted on Sep 22, 2017 at 18:11 UTC as 125th comment | 13 replies
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35mmBlueSky: I wonder how much Apple paid DXO, really a combination of 1/3" and 1/3.6" sensors gets you a 94 nowadays while dual cams with 1/2.3" and 1/2.6" or 1/2.8" gets well below that?

focal length is still 3.99mm, and FoV is identical too. So 1/3" sensor size, despite what Apple write on their own site.

Link | Posted on Sep 22, 2017 at 18:08 UTC

So, according to exif data from DXO review, it turns out iPhone 8 do not use a larger sensor than previous iPhones : the focal length is still 3,99mm, as with iPhone 7

Link | Posted on Sep 22, 2017 at 17:38 UTC as 28th comment | 2 replies
On article iPhone X vs. Samsung Note 8 (362 comments in total)
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scotthunter: Just buy a Canon G7X Mkii if you're that bothered about photography but don't want to lug around a DSLR and a bunch of lenses. Use the right tool for the job.

Pictures from my 5s were pretty bad on 9.7", so I used it only for reminders. But most of my 6s pictures seem fine on 12", unless on very bad lighting conditions. And the 8 and X are better.
There is no question on camera IQ being better. The question is what we trade.

Link | Posted on Sep 20, 2017 at 17:26 UTC
On article iPhone X: What you need to know (412 comments in total)
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Charlie Jin: Ironically, iPhone X is the least innovative model (and most copied from Samsung). I have no intention to upgrade from my iPhone 7 Plus. Greatly disappointed. Should have been named as iSampple.

Bold statements without substance make poor arguments. You fail to back up your own claims and think you are in position to tell who is right or wrong ? Or even suggest Apple is my "God" ? If you don't respect people you have nothing to do here.
Since I and others have already address all the points you raised, I will consider the discussion to be over and you to be wrong.
Nobody force you to like the iPhone X. But don't try to hide your opinion behind false facts.

Link | Posted on Sep 19, 2017 at 22:49 UTC
On article iPhone X vs. Samsung Note 8 (362 comments in total)
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scotthunter: Just buy a Canon G7X Mkii if you're that bothered about photography but don't want to lug around a DSLR and a bunch of lenses. Use the right tool for the job.

From my own experience, I find the use of a G7x and a smartphone to be quite different. In fact, I use the devices quite differently : the iPhone is mostly use as a full auto setup with great results without much any effort, while I find the G7x handling much enticing for semi auto shooting and in the same time needing more user intervention to have great results.
About the "post photo" experience (review, manage, process...) the camera is cumbersome at best : very small screen, not as responsive, stupid UI (press [info] to set).
About sending pict from camera to phone, I use it some times. It is like 5s by 10Mo picture (so close to 10 minutes for 100 pictures). It is slow.
Plus size difference...
There is no question the camera give better results. But phones are so much more convenient, when they are good enough for even people who care about IQ, they win. Soon, camera will only appeal to those who like to have manual control.

Link | Posted on Sep 19, 2017 at 22:22 UTC
On article iPhone X vs. Samsung Note 8 (362 comments in total)
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Noogy: That new iPhone X display is made by Samsung by the way.

besides, we don't know if the iPhone display use only Samsung IP... Made by Samsung does not mean it is a Samsung display.

Link | Posted on Sep 18, 2017 at 21:05 UTC
On article iPhone X vs. Samsung Note 8 (362 comments in total)
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scotthunter: Just buy a Canon G7X Mkii if you're that bothered about photography but don't want to lug around a DSLR and a bunch of lenses. Use the right tool for the job.

Better, but what a pain... full def jpeg are quite large, and wireless transfer is slow.

Link | Posted on Sep 18, 2017 at 15:27 UTC
On article iPhone X vs. Samsung Note 8 (362 comments in total)
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scotthunter: Just buy a Canon G7X Mkii if you're that bothered about photography but don't want to lug around a DSLR and a bunch of lenses. Use the right tool for the job.

Not as convenient.
The G7x only fit large pockets and you still need to carry the phone.
The G7x2 has very limited review, post processing abilities, and have no access to photo library, and very limited sharing capabilities.

Link | Posted on Sep 18, 2017 at 12:56 UTC
On article iPhone X: What you need to know (412 comments in total)
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Charlie Jin: Ironically, iPhone X is the least innovative model (and most copied from Samsung). I have no intention to upgrade from my iPhone 7 Plus. Greatly disappointed. Should have been named as iSampple.

Whatever, your are still wrong.
What is innovative about note 8 ?

About Microsoft, do you use a surface product ? I used one : SP2. Not impressed. And besides SP1, by your own word, lots of improvement but no innovations in Surface pro. No innovation in surface laptop either.

Link | Posted on Sep 18, 2017 at 12:01 UTC
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mxx: Popular Mechanics has an interesting piece titled "It's Never Been a Worse Time to Upgrade Your Phone: The iPhone X cements a growing trend of less for more."

Not bashing the X as such, but just pointing out a few facts about top end phones these days.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/news/a28179/should-you-upgrade-your-phone/?src=nl&mag=pop&list=nl_pnl_news&date=091417
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/news/a28179/should-you-upgrade-your-phone/?src=nl&mag=pop&list=nl_pnl_news&date=091417.

Face ID is here to replace touch ID... not quite true. It goes further, from quick unlock to transparent unlock. Listening repport about people who have used the phone, now touch ID feels unnatural. And I tend to believe those who used it over those who don't.

About battery, I think it is good it is non user replaceable. It is an expansive, complex, dangerous and environmentally challenging component. It is good as long as the manufacturer can easily change it. On this point, the number of apple stores and the good reparability of iPhone is important.

Then, besides battery, because progress is getting slower, it means the phone is likely to not be obsolete for a longer time. Plus it is the first iPhone to have the neural engine, and just like with 64bits, it is safe now for some time. So it is not a bad time to change if you want to (the bad time is just before the breakthrough).

Link | Posted on Sep 18, 2017 at 10:46 UTC
On article iPhone X vs. Samsung Note 8 (362 comments in total)
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0lf: iPhone X vs note 8 :
iPhone : we have no data so we can't tell...

So, what is the point of the article ?

You can start with sensor size... then deeper picture analysis and comparison (including real world pict).
Worse than a spec sheet comparison is an incomplete spec sheet comparison.

Link | Posted on Sep 17, 2017 at 18:21 UTC
On article iPhone X vs. Samsung Note 8 (362 comments in total)

iPhone X vs note 8 :
iPhone : we have no data so we can't tell...

So, what is the point of the article ?

Link | Posted on Sep 17, 2017 at 15:53 UTC as 72nd comment | 3 replies
On article iPhone X: What you need to know (412 comments in total)
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Charlie Jin: Ironically, iPhone X is the least innovative model (and most copied from Samsung). I have no intention to upgrade from my iPhone 7 Plus. Greatly disappointed. Should have been named as iSampple.

About screen, I already adress the point. You state it is stolen, I said it is bought. What you sate is a nonsense.

About wireless charging, yes, Apple is a follower. No firm can lead in all domains. But the technology does not belong to Samsung, so it is not stolen either...

Link | Posted on Sep 17, 2017 at 15:40 UTC
On article iPhone X: What you need to know (412 comments in total)
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Charlie Jin: Ironically, iPhone X is the least innovative model (and most copied from Samsung). I have no intention to upgrade from my iPhone 7 Plus. Greatly disappointed. Should have been named as iSampple.

About face ID, either the smartphones you know are not sold elsewhere in the world, or you are talking about imperfect implementations, that even manufacturers are describing as secondary or not as advanced than touch ID (which is still the main way to unlock the device).
We are talking about a system which cannot be fooled by a photo or video, work close to 100% of time whatever the light (night, strong direct light), is quick, does not require you to old the phone like you would if you take a selfie, adapts to changes of your face, optionnally take care of your attention, and without sending anything to the cloud.
In summary, it is meant to just work without you thinking about it. This is the only way it would be good enough to replace touch ID. This is an innovation because it change the way people use their devices. Curent implementations are secondary and are not broadly used because they are less good than touch ID. They are just gimmicks.

Link | Posted on Sep 17, 2017 at 15:40 UTC
On article iPhone X: What you need to know (412 comments in total)
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FeDost: Now seriously, anyone who considers himself a photographer, from professional to amateur, would never spend 1000e on a phone just because it has a fabulous camera. C'mon guys, is still a phone with a 1/3-inch sensor, mini lenses, terrible battery life and only on screen commands, no dials or buttons...

Despite all the good words everyone will say about the new iPhone you can't expect to do serious photography from a mobile device. If you really need a compact camera get a Ricoh GR from 2013 with is much better in image quality, dynamic range, ISO performance and real controls.

I don't wanna open a compact cameras debate now, that was just an example, I'm sure that any premium compact camera can make better results over the iPhone (or any other over priced mobile) for 1/3 of the price.

This is only a marketing move because everyone wanna do "cool pics" but no one wants to bother to learn photography basics so leave this cool device to those people and grab a REAL camera!

Their is most to editing than recovering shadows.
That said, given the level of tone curve alteration already possible from a jpeg from iPhone 6s. I would say it is not that bad.

Link | Posted on Sep 17, 2017 at 14:59 UTC
On article iPhone X: What you need to know (412 comments in total)
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Charlie Jin: Ironically, iPhone X is the least innovative model (and most copied from Samsung). I have no intention to upgrade from my iPhone 7 Plus. Greatly disappointed. Should have been named as iSampple.

Border is thin between innovation and improvement. Even a device as disruptive as the first iPhone is in fact full of improvements : for example, the multitouch capacitive display, which is central in the device and define the whole user experience, can be considered as an improvement of old resistive touch screen. But the device as a whole completely redefined what is a smartphone (why it is called disruptive)

Link | Posted on Sep 17, 2017 at 11:39 UTC
On article iPhone X: What you need to know (412 comments in total)
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Charlie Jin: Ironically, iPhone X is the least innovative model (and most copied from Samsung). I have no intention to upgrade from my iPhone 7 Plus. Greatly disappointed. Should have been named as iSampple.

So if you did not agree please define what feature the iPhone X stole frome Samsung.
Your statements were not just about dual lens. You said the iPhone X lack innovation. Face ID is an innovation. At least as meaningfull as the dual camera.
Where is the prefudice when it was proved that Samsung implementation, which does come earlier than from Apple, was easily fooled by a picture... Something has to work to be called an innovation.

What strikes me is that you allow yourself to call people "brainless troll"...

Link | Posted on Sep 17, 2017 at 11:17 UTC
On article iPhone X: What you need to know (412 comments in total)
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Charlie Jin: Ironically, iPhone X is the least innovative model (and most copied from Samsung). I have no intention to upgrade from my iPhone 7 Plus. Greatly disappointed. Should have been named as iSampple.

The border between improvement and innovation is thin and often hard to guess without a deep knowledge in the technology used. I mostly disagree with you. Here is an abstract example :
Two firms, A and B,
A and B start to build an innovative way to authenticate on a mobile device at the same time,
A release an half baked product one year later to be first on market,
B release its solution one year after A because they take time to do it properly,
And people like you calls A innovator and says B only brings improvement, while they start to work at the same time and their own solution is not dépendant of each other's work...
Glad you don't disagree with me about the fact you were wrong with all the "stolen features"

Link | Posted on Sep 16, 2017 at 10:47 UTC
On article iPhone X: What you need to know (412 comments in total)
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FeDost: Now seriously, anyone who considers himself a photographer, from professional to amateur, would never spend 1000e on a phone just because it has a fabulous camera. C'mon guys, is still a phone with a 1/3-inch sensor, mini lenses, terrible battery life and only on screen commands, no dials or buttons...

Despite all the good words everyone will say about the new iPhone you can't expect to do serious photography from a mobile device. If you really need a compact camera get a Ricoh GR from 2013 with is much better in image quality, dynamic range, ISO performance and real controls.

I don't wanna open a compact cameras debate now, that was just an example, I'm sure that any premium compact camera can make better results over the iPhone (or any other over priced mobile) for 1/3 of the price.

This is only a marketing move because everyone wanna do "cool pics" but no one wants to bother to learn photography basics so leave this cool device to those people and grab a REAL camera!

what is the problem with editing pictures from phone ?
On a phone you can directly take a picture in lightroom and process it to taste if it is the workflow you like.

By seing my profile you can see I have some compact cameras. But times is against them, not smartphones. Back when I used an iPhone 5s, the IQ was not enough and I used the camera quite frequently. Then, with the 6s, the IQ is mostly good enough for snapshots and I only use the camera on some occasions. The next phone, with larger sensor, brighter optics, better processing and two focal lengths, will mostly make the camera stay in dust...(or resaled)

Link | Posted on Sep 15, 2017 at 18:23 UTC
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