darwiniandude

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Look at this portrait (mode) shots. Original pixel has artifacts everywhere. Really bad. Which makes sense as it doesn’t have the hardware.

The Pixel 2 image is way better. However it has issues detecting depth. Look at the upper left and upper right of the image. Those corners are significantly less blurred than areas around it. It’s quire odd.

The iPhone is the better image of the three, in my opinion. The stabilised 56mm f2.4 in the iPhone X will help a lot with portrait mode. This comparison really should have included the Note 8.

When is DP Review going to review smartphone cameras? I’m the studio scene comparison?

Link | Posted on Oct 12, 2017 at 20:24 UTC as 10th comment
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M Chambers: I wonder how much Apple paid to have their logo displayed.

Apple does not pay for product placement. They will supply free hardware to production companies to be featured in films however.

You’ll often now see Apple products used with stickers or blanking covering the logos, companies want the aesthetic of Apple products in a production but refuse to give Apple free advertising so they cover the logo.

If Clay ditched his full frame Canon for this shoot and hired medium format gear, he’s obviously not stupid. Why would he put up with downtime experienced maintaining a windows based laptop?

Link | Posted on Sep 28, 2017 at 03:29 UTC
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Techo: An enjoyable article. Clay did a good job. The only negative is the part of the article , like around the middle section, where the gear used started to be the star, that then really started to feel like a plug (a hidden ad) for the companies mentioned. It took away the authenticity the article started with and disrupted the flow. A list of hardware used at the end would've sufficed. Some details on why an umbrella was used. But to go in depth ala "I promptly walked over to my MacBook and reviewed the imagery". Laptop would've sufficed. " I picked up the Phase One IQ3 Medium Format Camera, focused and snapped the shutter." . "Special thanks to Digital Transitions and Oliphant Studios"... so did they provide gear on the discount in return to be mentioned? If not, it just feels that way. These days with hidden ads in social media posts. You know.

I disagree, the gear used is relevant. He didn’t say ‘my 2015 MacBook Pro, which has the performance needed for my workflow’ or garbage like that. It’s obviously not a MacBook, it’s likely a MacBook Pro. So he hasn’t even said what it really is. Which is fine. He’s said what camera gear he’s using, which is important for the target audience. He probably just calls it his MacBook. Like I call my X-T1 my Fuji. It was originally posted on his blog.

Link | Posted on Sep 28, 2017 at 03:23 UTC
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BigEnso: Apple is giving me so many reasons not to come back to Apple. Non-standard, proprietary, walled garden thinking is one of the main things that made me leave Apple. This is just the latest example of it.

This of this container as the iPhone’s RAW format then, if you will. It can contain higher quality images in less space than JPEG. It will retail extra information, such as the depth map created with portrait mode for the out of focus areas, and the associated video for a live photo. Plus other details about the exposure that doesn’t fit within the jpeg.
You can opt to always just save JPEG. Bigger files, less quality, can’t modify depth afterwards... or you can capture in the new format, and choose to automatically get JPEG’s out when you import to your PC. That’s what happens if you do nothing;
If you import photos to a PC, currently you get JPEG.
If you import to a Mac running older software, you get JPEG.
If you import to a Mac running new software, you get the new format.
If you flip a switch in settings, you only get the new original format for any exports, and you then have to know what you want to do with the file.

How is any of this (the tech, or implementation) a bad thing?

Link | Posted on Sep 20, 2017 at 04:14 UTC
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ozturert: So how will my wife share her photos with me and family? We don't use IPhone. She will have to convert my daughter's photos before sharing? That would be cumbersome.

It’s completely automatic. She can share photos as before, by any method, iCloud Photo Library, google photos, Instagram, Flickr, no (manual) conversion needed. It’s automatic.

You think Apple would break people sharing her photos?
She can shoot a 4K 60fps video on an iPhone 8 and send it to your Android phone as a low res MMS video. It will just work, conversion on the fly if needed. But it she sends it via iMessage to someone on iOS 11 it will be full quality.

Link | Posted on Sep 20, 2017 at 04:04 UTC
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FoxPhoto: Just go to: Settings/Camera/Formats and switch from "High Efficiency" to "Most Compatible". Problem solved.
This will only be necessary from iPhone 7 forward, as all the older phones can't produce HEIF photos.

Instead, go to Settings, Photos, and ensure Mac/PC transfer is set to Automatic rather than Keep Originals. Then when you import the files are converted but those that stay on the phone or up to date devices, like a Mac on High Sierra, get the better quality files. As it’s automatic I wouldn’t want to stop the camera shooting video in H.265 etc when doing 4K 60fps.
I sold my 7 Plus on iOS 11 and 620GB iCloud Photo Library, everything captured there is viewable on my iPhone 5s I’m currently using (on iOS 11) it’s all handled pretty well for older devices.

Link | Posted on Sep 20, 2017 at 04:02 UTC

Umm, In settings, Photos, there is the option for Mac/PC transfers of either:
Automatic
Or
Keep Original.
Automatic will detect the software at the other end, and supply HEIC or JPEG (or the video equivalents) based on if your computer is up to date.
Keep Original transfers the original file as captured without conversion.
If you iMessage a picture or email it, it’s all converted if needed, in the case of iMessage it can tell someone is on iOS 7 and makes it a JPEG.

Conversion software is useful, no doubt, but certainly not essential. Most users will never encounter this issue as the system makes the most sensible choice.

Link | Posted on Sep 20, 2017 at 03:59 UTC as 6th comment
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dpfan32: The problem with smartphone pics is that they are heavily processed.
They look good on the smartphone's display. But when you apply more effects on apps like Snapseed, noise and artifacts in the sky are appearing immediately. Even when I shoot RAW with my iPhone the sky has plenty of noise when I make sky details visible. As I said, no problem on the iPhone's display but viewd on a desktop PC you can clearly see that the picture is made by an iPhone. It's a matter of what you got used to. Someone who used a large sensor camera will never be fully satisfied by an iPhone camera.

I mean look at this:
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4358/36436796342_4705abe473_o.jpg
needs heavy noise reduction

I take your point, but pushing levels after the fact is going to emphasise issues that may not be obvious before hand. Not everyone edits.

Also, your iPhone 6s used to take that photo is (equivilent) f2.2 with no optical image stabilisation. One year later, the iPhone 7 has optical image stabilisation and is f1.8. That would’ve definitely helped.

Link | Posted on Aug 16, 2017 at 13:08 UTC
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jaykumarr: In 2007 - 2011 every photo from Blackberry looked better than every photo from iPhone I owned. From 2011-2017 every photo in Samsung/google phone looks better. And we know Apple failed both in AI & machine learning while google, microsfot did a great job. So this article is plain wrong.

freediverx, I think you missed their sarcasm...

Link | Posted on Aug 3, 2017 at 04:08 UTC
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Copal Fit: From what I see this article seems correct. Many friends and colleagues use an iphone, and images taken with this phone are relatively speaking better than what I can get from my Android-based Samsung phone camera. This has never been a big issue for me since I only use my cellphone's camera to take a few snapshots. For me a cellphone does simply not replace a good camera (for both digital and film).

freediverx,
“The camera on a Galaxy Note 5 or S8+ delivers noticeably better performance than that of an iPhone 7”...
Really? How do either phone create a depth map and use that to computationally simulate large aperture DOF effects without a second camera with 56mm lens which is how the iPhone does it? Because that’s what this guy was talking about.

Link | Posted on Aug 3, 2017 at 04:05 UTC
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WJMWJM: Odd....show me any iPhone that can take super-wide images right out of the box, like the LG G5 (135 degrees, beating even the largest non-fisheye for DSLR (11-24mm, 126 degrees)
(no, clumsy add-on lenses don't count)
(nor is the G5 a clean rectilinear)
(beats me why no 100% software correction)

Add in-camera panorama and HDR-Art, and indeed there is no DSLR to match anywhere, at least not for instant pix & sharing.
But there is no iPhone of that caliber either.

I’d rather a 56mm second 12MP camera to get closer to a subject, personally. I don’t see the appeal of super wide at all but it depends what you shoot.

Link | Posted on Aug 2, 2017 at 22:15 UTC
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sirhawkeye64: And this is a news-worthy article? I mean, I'm sure somewhere someone working at a Ford dealership drives a Chevy or a Honda.... And I know there has to be some Mac heads working at Microsoft since they develop Office 365 for the Mac.... see where I'm going with this.... So what if the "former" Google worker likes the iPhone?

cosinaphile, look at his posts on Facebook. He’s enthusiastic about everything. I think it’s just how he is.

Link | Posted on Aug 2, 2017 at 22:05 UTC
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darwiniandude: IPhone 7+, no edits, taken about 3PM:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lwmmzjtr4rp0cm2/Photo%206-5-17%2C%203%2000%2030%20pm.jpg?dl=0
Fuji X-T1, 56mm @ f1.2, taken about 3:45PM. Sun was hiding a bit then though.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5vdd9jdn09p9888/Photo%206-5-17%2C%203%2045%2057%20pm.jpg?dl=0

MyReality, I originally replied to a comment stating iPhone photos are crap. I then posted a comparison of the 56mm (with depth map) in the iPhone to the 56mm f1.2 on my Fuji. Note that the iPhone is f2.8 and a minuscule sensor so this only works well in good light.
Anyway. Not trying to say I don’t need my X-T1 - I do! It takes way better photos on more situations, but even with mirrorless the iPhone is way smaller. I don’t always have the X-T1 with me.

As for the 300mm argument, I get it - but does that mean the Fuji X100 series is rubish because it can’t take a 300mm lens? No. My wife’sCanon 100mm macro is rubbish because it’s not 300mm? No.

But I’d rather have the option of getting optically closer to the subject which is why (for a cameraphone) I love the 7 Plus - it has a 56mm lens. And yet some people here are comparing it to an LG phone that has a super wide angle with a smaller sensor as the second camera? They don’t get it.

Link | Posted on Aug 2, 2017 at 22:01 UTC
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Roland Karlsson: This is the Mac vs PC argument again. A PC can consist of trillions of different components, and you can run multiple OS on it. For a mac there are 5 different hardware options available, all made by Apple. And there is one OS (ignoring stuff made by hackers).

Therefor Mac is a more orderly environment. Yes, that is very obvious.

And now this guy (that earlier worked with Android) have detected that. What fantastic news! Or ... rather ... how nice for him. Or ... whatever.

BTW ... if you want a really fast machine with wooping graphics for a reasonable price, it is not a Mac. The same goes for IPhone. Those iPhones are not cheap.

Roland, Apple makes and ships bootcamp driver pack for Windows. And every new Mac ships once these drivers are ready for people to install Windows. But really the whole discussion is irrelevant, we’re talking smartphones here. And I fail to see how it’s relevant that you can install multiple OSes on a computer. I can’t buy a Google Pixel and download and install Tizen onto it. Google isn’t providing drivers and support for installing Windows Phone on there either.

Link | Posted on Aug 2, 2017 at 21:54 UTC
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evilmagicnut: He spends great length describing the conditions that should make Apple the better platform, then fails to identify those distinguishing features (other than Apple portrait mode) that have arisen from that. If anything, he defeats his own argument by failing to list more than one distinguishing feature of the IPhone that matters for photography.

My experience: both Android and IPhone have fantastic imaging capabilities. I've shot both the Samsung S7 and IPhone 7 and I chose the former.

The S8+ is six months newer, doesn’t have two cameras (I’d expect the 56mm tele to be more of a depth constraint than the 28mm) and is also 1.0mm thicker. The same thickness as the iPhone 7 where the camera is.

Link | Posted on Aug 2, 2017 at 09:29 UTC
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Peter Gordon 01701: No wonder the guy was fired by Google. He has been overcome by the apple reality distortion field. The fact is Samsung's cameras are better. My note 4 had a better camera than my friends Iphone 6S. I now have a Galaxy S8+ which has an unbelievable camera but I still us my Nikon D750 as well.

>@freediverx i was replying to the user who stated that the Note4 took better photos than the 6s. From those pics, I think the previous generation iPhone took better shots than the Note 4.
Anyway, they all have their pros and cons. I can take pics to make my X-T1 look better than my wife’s EOS, or vice versa.

Link | Posted on Aug 2, 2017 at 09:23 UTC
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farhadvm: nice Ad, iphone photos are crap

Nice and balanced comment there.
Have a look at my two linked photos below comparing a 7+ portrait mode photo with my X-T1 56mm @f1.2.

Link | Posted on Aug 2, 2017 at 09:21 UTC

IPhone 7+, no edits, taken about 3PM:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lwmmzjtr4rp0cm2/Photo%206-5-17%2C%203%2000%2030%20pm.jpg?dl=0
Fuji X-T1, 56mm @ f1.2, taken about 3:45PM. Sun was hiding a bit then though.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5vdd9jdn09p9888/Photo%206-5-17%2C%203%2045%2057%20pm.jpg?dl=0

Link | Posted on Aug 2, 2017 at 04:02 UTC as 12th comment | 7 replies
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sirhawkeye64: And this is a news-worthy article? I mean, I'm sure somewhere someone working at a Ford dealership drives a Chevy or a Honda.... And I know there has to be some Mac heads working at Microsoft since they develop Office 365 for the Mac.... see where I'm going with this.... So what if the "former" Google worker likes the iPhone?

Why does it seem solicited? Is there an Android phone on the market at the moment with dual 12MP (or more) cameras where one is 28mm f1.8 and the other is 56mm (unfortunately only f2.8) with Apple’s dedication to camera software trickery?
The old iPhone 5s could take 8MP shots at 10 frames per second for a burst of 999 shots. It takes several shots and combines the best from each in low light with a single shutter push, to minimise subject blur. It fires a test ‘red eye’ flash briefly, takes a photo, does white balance analysis on it, and then fires the real flash combining a white and a yellow LED to recreate the colour temperature of the lighting already in the room, so the light colour matches and you don’t get ‘that camera phone flash’ look. It’s an autogelling flash, basically, in the iPhone 5s, back in 2012. Apple has done lots of great things to advance smartphone cameras.

Link | Posted on Aug 2, 2017 at 03:51 UTC
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ERKM: Used iPhone since 2010. Now I have an LG V20 because of the dual lens. One lens is WIDEANGLE.
Awesome.
Bokeh control? I do it with software, then I have full control.

And now the more I use Android the more I like it. No longer use the iPad Mini, now I have an LG V496 Tablet. Bought for $77.

Honestly, i’d rather have an extra lens be Tele than Wide. 56mm on the iPhone is also a more flattering perspective than normal or wide lenses for portraits.

Link | Posted on Aug 2, 2017 at 03:46 UTC
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