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miles green: Just add the Pentax K-1 in pixel-shift mode... Resolution is better, DR and colors are better, and there is no moire. It's (still) a landscape beast!!!
I realise it is without Pixel-Shift. Where did I say otherwise?
JMD-70: Based on what I'm seeing when putting the D850 against Sony (A7R II), Canon (5DIV), and Nikon (D750 / D810),...the D850 is slaying all other bodies if you qualify its "high resolution" files, etc. It is the New "JOAT" (Jack of All Trades) DSLR and is currently the best 1-Body DSLR camera on the planet without a doubt!
Your eyes may tell you different,....but I'm seeing an improvement,...and given the crazy high-res files,....I say "Homerun" for Nikon!
This is just more bias. I'm a Nikon user and have tons of gear, but the Pentax K1 kills the D850 below about ISO 300.
https://pentaxrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Photons-to-Photos-provides-dynamic-range-test-results-from-several-Pentax-cameras3.jpg
miles green: Just add the Pentax K-1 in pixel-shift mode... Resolution is better, DR and colors are better, and there is no moire. It's (still) a landscape beast!!!
https://pentaxrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Photons-to-Photos-provides-dynamic-range-test-results-from-several-Pentax-cameras3.jpg
I just checked the D850 against a D810 and Pentax K1 at:
https://pentaxrumors.com/2017/09/16/photons-to-photos-provides-dynamic-range-test-results-from-several-pentax-cameras/
Up until about ISO300 the K1 beats the D850, but then, suddenly the graph jumps up a bit for the latter which hints at some weird processing to me.
https://pentaxrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Photons-to-Photos-provides-dynamic-range-test-results-from-several-Pentax-cameras3.jpg
I'm selling a couple of D800E (I'll keep my D810) as I need the cash, but I've been toying with the idea of a K1 (I still have a few lenses) at less than 1/2 the price.
Tet68survivor: YEE PEE! AND AFTER 48 YEARS IN STORAGE, you can watch them dissolve before your eyes! While in Viet Nam Combat, I shot about 4000 Ektachrome slides, come home, put then away in a "cool, dry, place, then a year ago I dig them out to show folks, and they were unviewable! No thanks I'm sticking with my new digital camera!
Actually, I should've qualified my comment. Mine are almost all Kodachrome and E-6 Ektachrome (group I)
Tet68survivor: YEE PEE! AND AFTER 48 YEARS IN STORAGE, you can watch them dissolve before your eyes! While in Viet Nam Combat, I shot about 4000 Ektachrome slides, come home, put then away in a "cool, dry, place, then a year ago I dig them out to show folks, and they were unviewable! No thanks I'm sticking with my new digital camera!
And yet I left 1,000s in an old suit case out in the shed for 40 years and 99% are just as good as day one. Only a few were damaged from water.
Looking at the pix at 100ISO/+6 The Pentax K-1 kills it in Pixelshift mode and pretty much matches it in standard mode. Considering the cost differential that's amazing.
bossa: Could someone tell me why the D850 is almost $2,000 more than I paid for my D800E and D810 here in OZ? That's about what I'd get for each of my D800e and D810 if I wanted to sell them.
I paid A$3650 & A$3750 & $3850 (or thereabouts) for the D810. That's Australian $ BTW.
I've had a D800E up for sale twice with no luck so far.
Could someone tell me why the D850 is almost $2,000 more than I paid for my D800E and D810 here in OZ? That's about what I'd get for each of my D800e and D810 if I wanted to sell them.
wizofoz: un-dependable??? I know The Bard made up some words in his time, but that was 500 years ago and I expect standard English from a technical review. Does anyone actually proof read these things?
Yes, it reminds one of the old movie "Undependence day". ;-)
The camera being used in the 1st few moments of the video is clearly a Pentax 645Z and yet it never gets a mention (only the Phase One), but that's par for the course for some reason, right?
Frank in Bridgewater: People who make decisions on the quality, or otherwise, of lenses, cameras, based on sample internet galleries and talk about 12 or 14 or 16 bit color and stuff seem to forget that what you are seeing in a browser are 8 bit jpegs displayed at (probably) 72 dpi (or less).
Your X-Ray could well be my Ultra-Violet. (No we're not married)
matthew saville: It's reasons like this that I'm enjoying third-party brands and, basically, anything OTHER than Nikon or Canon.
Between Sigma and Rokinon, (and the new Tamron-inspired Pentax trio of 2.8 zooms) ...I think Pentax is now a DSLR system that really ought to be giving both Canon and Nikon semi-pro flagships a real spanking. Too bad consumerism is an addiction, and Canikon are the drug of choice these days.
From my readings, the new Pentax 70-200 is not a Tamron 'inspired' zoom but is a 100% Pentax * lens.
7seven7: Wow !!! :o
The image quality in PS Mode is as good as the best Medium Format Camera... for the price of the best APSc DSLR !
So the Lens makers will come back designing the best lenses for the Pentax K mount !
Great !
Mate, this camera is going to redefine digital photography for at least 5 years. They are already walking out the door.
Prognathous: With this kind of performance, Pentax should add an option to expose-to-the-left, basically aligning exposure to the left of the histogram. The pictures may look dark before processing, but at the same time will provide the fastest possible shutter speed (for a given aperture) - without loss of detail in dark areas and without blown highlights (possibly not even light sources).
What a great idea dosdan.
aris14: Three top of their line cams each one aiming in 3 different niche of users. Given what they offer more compared to existing rivals I say that Pentax has a clean advantage overall mainly due its price and specs .
I own two D800E and a D810 and I can't wait to get my hands on a K-1. Calling Astrotracer a 'gizmo' is like calling the Hubble Space Telescope a gimmick. Huh!
bossa: The non-pixel shifted K-1 images appear to have less camera sharpening and some kind of motion artifact in play. I wonder if the virtual AA filter and/or the shake reduction was ON when it should've been OFF when the tripod was in use.
Anyway, I can't see how that huge increase in resolution could result from a soft lens - soft is soft. I have an FA77 and it's one of the sharpest lenses I own. There's another explanation for this. Pilot error?
Tempted to sell one of my D800E for this camera as I still have some tasty Pentax lenses and would love to try the Astrotracer and Pixelshift.
Thanks for that. The K-1 even beats out the 645Z. Scary tech!
The non-pixel shifted K-1 images appear to have less camera sharpening and some kind of motion artifact in play. I wonder if the virtual AA filter and/or the shake reduction was ON when it should've been OFF when the tripod was in use.
Anyway, I can't see how that huge increase in resolution could result from a soft lens - soft is soft. I have an FA77 and it's one of the sharpest lenses I own. There's another explanation for this. Pilot error?
Tempted to sell one of my D800E for this camera as I still have some tasty Pentax lenses and would love to try the Astrotracer and Pixelshift.
Wouldn't Pentax's flagship be the 645Z? Well of course it is.
JackM: The text in the center is the only place the K1 with pixel shift wins. Everywhere else, the D810 and 645Z are sharper.
I didn't see it like that.
I look forward to trying one though, and testing for amp glow, which is my main gripe for my D800s and D810. My K5 and lowly K-01 show absolutely none and I expect the K-1 to do likewise. I'm looking to do some astrophotography.