Najinsky

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wabre: ok, it's (again) a DxO score. if you don't care, don't read it. But for some it might be interesting to know that a camera with this sensor has a high score which translates into great pictures when using a drone. Why would somebody like that care about any other "normal" camera and if any Nikon 7200 scores better? i can't attach that Nikon to a drone!

DXO do two things, the first is measurements, the second is weighted ratings based on those measurements.

The vast majority of those criticising DXO are focused on the weighted ratings.

AFAIAC, the measurements are as good as any other sites measurements, and more often correlate with both other sites measurements and my own experiences for the lenses I own.

An exception is Lens Rentals, who are in a unique position to test multiple copies of a lens with vey precise equipment, allowing sample variance to be included.

So if you want to know about your lens, go to Lens Rentals.

But if they don't have info on your lens, DXOMark have the largest number of measurements available, and they let you have them for free.

You can use their measurements, but ignore their ratings, I do it all the time.

Link | Posted on Nov 10, 2017 at 12:37 UTC
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Najinsky: Low cost, easy fix.

DON'T TILT THE <SWEARWORD> SCREEN!

Under what circumstances is colour accuracy important when looking from oblique angles?

Hey look, I got a swearword past the swearword detector!

Link | Posted on Nov 10, 2017 at 12:19 UTC

Low cost, easy fix.

DON'T TILT THE <SWEARWORD> SCREEN!

Under what circumstances is colour accuracy important when looking from oblique angles?

Link | Posted on Nov 10, 2017 at 12:18 UTC as 12th comment | 1 reply
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J A C S: The "big blue button below" is yellow.

Corrosion

Link | Posted on Nov 9, 2017 at 16:23 UTC
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Najinsky: Dear Panasonic ideas dept, If you want me drop $1700 on a m43 camera, here's how you do it:

Build a body with great ergonomics and great styling. A body that makes me smile, makes me want to grab it and shoot the bejesus out of it. Think Hassleblad X1D mini.

Put your best sensor and image processor into it. 4/3 is, just, over the threshold of good enough, enough of the time. But sadly there are still some shots it where it wasn't quite good enough this time. You need to do all you can to make me sad less often.

Put your best AF features in it. My preference is for subjects to get focus over backgrounds. Sometimes they'll be moving.

Don't skimp on the EVF.

I don't need 20, 40 or 60 FPS for stills. 12 is fine. If you can make it faster, great, but it's not a priority.

I don't need 4K video, but I realise this is your thing, so I'm happy for you to include it. And I guess the 6k photo mode will offer something for those rare or speciality occasions where 12fps might not be enough.

Obviously not. If they had made a body to tempt me, I'd obviously be posting about how much I was looking forward to it, not about how it misses the mark for me.

If others like it, I don't begrudge them that. If it's their dream camera, I'm happy they found it. I'm just waiting on my turn!

Link | Posted on Nov 9, 2017 at 14:52 UTC
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Najinsky: Dear Panasonic ideas dept, If you want me drop $1700 on a m43 camera, here's how you do it:

Build a body with great ergonomics and great styling. A body that makes me smile, makes me want to grab it and shoot the bejesus out of it. Think Hassleblad X1D mini.

Put your best sensor and image processor into it. 4/3 is, just, over the threshold of good enough, enough of the time. But sadly there are still some shots it where it wasn't quite good enough this time. You need to do all you can to make me sad less often.

Put your best AF features in it. My preference is for subjects to get focus over backgrounds. Sometimes they'll be moving.

Don't skimp on the EVF.

I don't need 20, 40 or 60 FPS for stills. 12 is fine. If you can make it faster, great, but it's not a priority.

I don't need 4K video, but I realise this is your thing, so I'm happy for you to include it. And I guess the 6k photo mode will offer something for those rare or speciality occasions where 12fps might not be enough.

Rod,

"5 Splash Proof is a term used to describe an extra level of protection this camera offers against exposure to a minimal amount of moisture, water or dust. Splash Proof does not guarantee that damage will not occur if this camera is subjected to direct contact with water."

Contrast that disclaimer, with the Olympus president pouring a glass of water over the EM5 and then shooting with it, at the announcement 6 years ago.

For example.

I don't know more, I'm just reading what has been written, and this announcement has a lot of written small print.

Link | Posted on Nov 9, 2017 at 12:59 UTC
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Najinsky: .
G1: 360g
G3: 336g
G5: 396g
G6: 390g
G7: 410g
G8: 505g
G9: 658g

The trend is not my friend.

@tkbslc,

No, I'm just ready to rationalise my disparate collection of bodies and lenses, figuring out what makes sense for me, keeping it compact where it can be.

Options for a carry everywhere compact include G1X.3, GR or M100 with a pancake prime. An LX200 would be in that group, but I don't expect it anytime soon.

At the other end, I'm thinking m43 has a genuine size USP for lenses such as the 300/4 so I want a body with the best IQ and AF tech (not features) the system can offer.

I may end up with an EM1.2 or G9, but I'd prefer something a bit lighter and smaller, with an optional grip to beef it up for bigger lenses.

That body would be a better match for my bright primes, wide zoom and 35-100/2.8, and the grip would be carried with the 300/4 when needed.

But IQ and AF has to be better than the current more compact bodies (EM 5.2). M43 IQ and AF is not so special it should only be kept only for flagships.

Link | Posted on Nov 9, 2017 at 12:22 UTC
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Najinsky: Dear Panasonic ideas dept, If you want me drop $1700 on a m43 camera, here's how you do it:

Build a body with great ergonomics and great styling. A body that makes me smile, makes me want to grab it and shoot the bejesus out of it. Think Hassleblad X1D mini.

Put your best sensor and image processor into it. 4/3 is, just, over the threshold of good enough, enough of the time. But sadly there are still some shots it where it wasn't quite good enough this time. You need to do all you can to make me sad less often.

Put your best AF features in it. My preference is for subjects to get focus over backgrounds. Sometimes they'll be moving.

Don't skimp on the EVF.

I don't need 20, 40 or 60 FPS for stills. 12 is fine. If you can make it faster, great, but it's not a priority.

I don't need 4K video, but I realise this is your thing, so I'm happy for you to include it. And I guess the 6k photo mode will offer something for those rare or speciality occasions where 12fps might not be enough.

@CCD FTW, yes, I'm too wordy, 999 char limit, etc.

The camera is fake Pro. The weather sealing is limited. The higher FPS comes from eShutter which will lead to rolling shutter effects and limit its usefulness. Dual IS will work with some lenses, not others, DFD will work with some lenses not others. And if there are any remaining shutter shock issues, then all bets are off to what the actual useable FPS will end up being.

What I'm saying is if they want me to pay for extra for more features, then make those features fun, interesting, useful. Not fake features designed to make it sound 'Pro'; features I don't need, won't use and likely won't work well or often (judging by the amount of small print).

Don't try to con me into a purchase, get creative and tempt me.

Link | Posted on Nov 9, 2017 at 09:30 UTC
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Najinsky: As an avid boater in a former life (I practically lived on one for 5 years), I learned the hard way that there is almost nothing that saltwater won't eat.

I remember a torture test on an CF card way back, it may even have been here on DPR, it survived being dropped, run over by a truck and having a nail hammered through it. It was saltwater that finally killed it.

Even just having cameras on the boat where there can be fine sea spray in the air eventually took its toll on some of my non-weather-sealed cameras.

Respect the sea, it can devour you and your stuff.

Nah, more the boatman. The waters around the islands where I lived/worked ran deep and cold, so I spent much more time on the water than in it.

Although one winter when the pier was icy I did slide right off it and into the cold water.

I was very lucky to find somewhere that allowed me to heave myself out as even just a few minutes in water that cold could have turned serious.

My Leica D-Lux 4 and Nokia 8800 were not quite so lucky. Both doa after the dip.

Link | Posted on Nov 9, 2017 at 07:38 UTC
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Najinsky: Dear Panasonic ideas dept, If you want me drop $1700 on a m43 camera, here's how you do it:

Build a body with great ergonomics and great styling. A body that makes me smile, makes me want to grab it and shoot the bejesus out of it. Think Hassleblad X1D mini.

Put your best sensor and image processor into it. 4/3 is, just, over the threshold of good enough, enough of the time. But sadly there are still some shots it where it wasn't quite good enough this time. You need to do all you can to make me sad less often.

Put your best AF features in it. My preference is for subjects to get focus over backgrounds. Sometimes they'll be moving.

Don't skimp on the EVF.

I don't need 20, 40 or 60 FPS for stills. 12 is fine. If you can make it faster, great, but it's not a priority.

I don't need 4K video, but I realise this is your thing, so I'm happy for you to include it. And I guess the 6k photo mode will offer something for those rare or speciality occasions where 12fps might not be enough.

Kind of. It's extracted from the video stream so it's been processed in the same way as a JPEG would be (wb, tone curve, contrast, nr, etc).

Link | Posted on Nov 9, 2017 at 07:28 UTC

As an avid boater in a former life (I practically lived on one for 5 years), I learned the hard way that there is almost nothing that saltwater won't eat.

I remember a torture test on an CF card way back, it may even have been here on DPR, it survived being dropped, run over by a truck and having a nail hammered through it. It was saltwater that finally killed it.

Even just having cameras on the boat where there can be fine sea spray in the air eventually took its toll on some of my non-weather-sealed cameras.

Respect the sea, it can devour you and your stuff.

Link | Posted on Nov 9, 2017 at 06:34 UTC as 45th comment | 2 replies

Dear Panasonic ideas dept, If you want me drop $1700 on a m43 camera, here's how you do it:

Build a body with great ergonomics and great styling. A body that makes me smile, makes me want to grab it and shoot the bejesus out of it. Think Hassleblad X1D mini.

Put your best sensor and image processor into it. 4/3 is, just, over the threshold of good enough, enough of the time. But sadly there are still some shots it where it wasn't quite good enough this time. You need to do all you can to make me sad less often.

Put your best AF features in it. My preference is for subjects to get focus over backgrounds. Sometimes they'll be moving.

Don't skimp on the EVF.

I don't need 20, 40 or 60 FPS for stills. 12 is fine. If you can make it faster, great, but it's not a priority.

I don't need 4K video, but I realise this is your thing, so I'm happy for you to include it. And I guess the 6k photo mode will offer something for those rare or speciality occasions where 12fps might not be enough.

Link | Posted on Nov 9, 2017 at 06:16 UTC as 28th comment | 10 replies
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alffastar: I really do not get the meaning of the constant comparison to full frame just based on sensor size... You DO understand that Panasonic is promoting a product that has many more aspects and technologies than the size of the sensor and they are charging based on the whole package, right? So, either you just do not like the sensor size and then I do not know why you are reading news about a camera which does not interest you and then commenting how uninteresting it is to you or you think that G9 as a whole package is inadequately priced. I do not understand the comments that come from the first scenario and am frankly annoyed to read tens of comments like that below every m43 pro oriented camera. Now, discussing the whole package is a different story and I think Panasonic created a great product - designed with pro needs in mind, robust, improved image and most then enough image and video capabilities for me (not a pro). Great job, Pana!

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Link | Posted on Nov 9, 2017 at 05:17 UTC
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Demon Cleaner: I'm kind of stunned they included 4K 50/60p in the G9. Was fully expecting it to remain a calling card of the GH5 for a while yet.

I think that makes this the cheapest access point to an ILC with 4K 50/60p on the market? Very alluring option for anyone who doesn't need 10 bit and unlimited recording duration. Also probably makes it the best traveler's hybrid on the planet by some margin.

It's a G9 in name only. In terms of a model, it's much more like a GH5p (photo edition) in terms of features, size and price.

Panasonic model numbers have become almost completely devoid of any meaning.

Link | Posted on Nov 9, 2017 at 05:14 UTC
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onlooker: DPR, how about an article "This is where G9 falls short of GH5 in the video department"? So far there are bits and pieces in your various articles, but a good summary would be nice.

Onlooker, I agree. I'm struggling to see where this fits. Having said that, it is a little less chubby than the GH5, and it adds the pixel shift mode which makes it a little more directly competitive with the EM1.2.

But are those enough to create a distinct niche from the GH5 while also competing with the EM1.2? I'm not convinced, not even close to convinced.

When you add in that both Panasonic and Olympus are adding features that are only compatible with their own lenses, a picture that starts to emerge that maybe the shrinking market is causing them to fight harder for their share of the m43 camp, subtlety forcing users to consider which sub-camp they want to be in.

I can see a scenario where I would eventually go for a G9, given the limited choices, but I would do so begrudgingly at having to carry more and pay $500 over what I actually want, need and would use.

Link | Posted on Nov 9, 2017 at 04:59 UTC
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Potemkin_Photo: Rip Samsung. Canikon will soon join you in the abyss because they refused to do what you did.

That sounds like an excellent performance from the Nikon and a write up of the comparison would make a good blog article, or post for the Canon FF forum here if you don't blog.

Relating the experience to a wider audience might also bring some tips or insights into what's going on with the Canon that may help improve the results.

25% sounds disappointing, and certainly less than I used to get when shooting my 5D.2 with the trombone.

Link | Posted on Nov 9, 2017 at 03:52 UTC

.
G1: 360g
G3: 336g
G5: 396g
G6: 390g
G7: 410g
G8: 505g
G9: 658g

The trend is not my friend.

Link | Posted on Nov 8, 2017 at 16:55 UTC as 90th comment | 15 replies
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Potemkin_Photo: Rip Samsung. Canikon will soon join you in the abyss because they refused to do what you did.

HaR, It was a general point, nothing specific to any particular Sony or a Panasonic, just a long running trend that as more and more features get added they don't always play nice together, and some are of questionable value until they go through several iterations.

The eShutter is perhaps the most obvious example. For years the FPS has been ramping up by virtue of using it. But when do you need 16 or 20 FPS? When shooting fast action sports with fast moving subjects, and eShutter is often useless for that use case due to rolling shutter.

Next implementation comes along and marketing claim better resistance to the effect, but reviews shows those claims to be somewhat optimistic.

It took many iterations to get where we are now and it's still not fully addressed in most cameras.

It's not a complaint, just an observation that many new features come with caveats.

Take the new G9 from Panasonic. Dual IS.2 is a feature, but it only works with a handful of Panasonic lenses is the caveat.

Link | Posted on Nov 8, 2017 at 16:41 UTC
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Potemkin_Photo: Rip Samsung. Canikon will soon join you in the abyss because they refused to do what you did.

Entoman, I honestly have never felt short-changed by Canon.

I totally agree they are light on extra features, but those features it does have are usually well implemented in a solid and reliable body.

Through the decision making process, I only buy cameras that do enough of what I want it for. Therefore it mostly follows that I don't miss the features it doesn't have, but do appreciate the features it does have that are well implemented.

Some cameras offer boat loads of features (Panasonic and Sony especially), yet in use, the features can fight with each other or be mutually exclusive.

Examples:

14bit Raw and E shutter? Some cameras offer both, but not at the same time!

10fps? Yes, but only if you can live with shutter shock (soft images)!

No problem, switch to E shutter, but action shots are the most prone to rolling shutter artefacts. Etc, etc.

There are countless examples in the forums where features end up being little more than text on a spec sheet.

Link | Posted on Nov 8, 2017 at 15:00 UTC
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kkuu14: simply don't get why so much critics around pro M43 camera. As a A7rii & GH4 user for years, they are both impressive tools and irreplaceable to me.

I think most of the criticisms are not for the cameras that exists, it's frustration for the ones that don't.

The circa $1000 body with their latest sensor tech and something more than CDAF for more reliable focusing in more scenarios.

People look at Sony, Fujifilm and now even Canon offering these features in their low and mid range enthusiast models and get frustrated to see the m43 system they bought into in terms of lens investment, not doing the same.

Link | Posted on Nov 8, 2017 at 14:18 UTC
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