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I once owned six different Nikon bodies that required six different batteries and chargers! Fujifilm users should count their blessings!
Add the Olympus 12-40mm f/2.8 Pro M.Zuiko to the E-M5 lll and the total price is $2000 for a plastic camera with a sensor half the size of FF. That's a hard sell to those not already invested in m43.
JOrmsby: This is a fine camera, that should be priced at $899. It’s closest equivalents are the Fuji XT-30 and Sony a6400, which are/were priced there. And they aren’t even made of all plastic. Oly wants $300 more for this. For what?
The Sony 6400 is weather sealed.
Korinth7: As a 60 year old “enthusiast” with neck and back issues who owns a Nikon D7100, I’ve been waiting in Nikon's mirrorless APS-C because I’d really like to go lighter. Full frame really isn’t a need and it is out of my price range. I am neither underwhelmed nor excited by the Z 50 but somewhat encouraged — I’m taking a “wait and see” approach. On the other hand, as D7500 refurbished prices come down, I would consider that.
To Korinth 7:
As someone who is approaching 70 years of age I can relate to your desire for lighter photo gear. A little over a year ago I bought a used small and lightweight Fujifilm XT10 with a XC 16-50mm lens for around $300 total cost. My intent was to use the Fujifilm X-T10 for the times I did not want to lug around my rather bulky and heavy Nikon D7000 and two lens kit. After five months I realized I had not used the D7000 kit once, so I sold it and bought a Fujifilm XT2 and XC 50-230mm lens (that is very sharp at 230mm!) and a Samyang 12mm f2.0 lens. I now have a compact and lightweight kit but still very capable kit that gives me images better than I was getting with Nikon DX. If you want to go APS-C MILC I highly recommend Fujifilm. I really don't see much future for Nikon DX mirrorless, but if you really want to stay with Nikon it's best to just bite the bullet and go FF Z, IMO. BTW, I tried Olympus m43, but I found it too much of a downgrade from Nikon DX.
Looking at the side-by-side comparison of the DX Z50 and the FF Z6 There is very little to be gained in terms of reducing body size by going with Nikon DX, so it comes down to the lenses to reduce cost and size. With that in mind, I think it makes more sense for Nikon to build a line of inexpensive collapsible lightweight plastic small aperture zooms and a couple of cheap large aperture primes to go with a plastic body FF that sells for $1000. That strategy alone would render Nikon DX redundant. I predict that within four years time Nikon DX MILCs will have gone the way of their now defunct Nikon One line and quietly die in obscurity never to be seen again.
No internal flash means no deal for me, so I will be keeping my Coolpix A. One of the great things about a camera like this is the ability to use fill flash in sunny conditions because all shutter speeds are flash synced. If the GR IV has a built in flash I will buy it, if I should live that long anyway.
The statement that all mirrorless cameras are insensitive to IR light is just wrong. A Fujifilm X-T2 equipped with a R-72 filter is capable of taking infra red photos. If the sensor was insensitive to IR light an image could not be captured with a R-72 filter in place.
random.lt: I remember very well how good (by those days) was Sony F717 Laser grid for autofocus. That camera did not have a mirror, it focused with contrast detect autofocus. Still, it could focus in total darknes..
Bring back the lasers!
For safety's sake the laser assist lights were banned years ago. I still have a Sony V1 in a drawer somewhere and yes it can focus in total darkness with the red assist laser light and yes it is mirrorless.
The law should extend to private citizens as well. Drone fliers are nothing more than voyeurs and peeping-toms with high tech tools. Any drone that comes over my property is going to be skeet practice! 😉
Depth-from-Defocus will be a deal-killer for many. M43 users think DFD is cool because they are accustomed to the hobbled CDAF, but it’s inferior to PDAF and will become increasing so in the future. Too bad Panasonic shot itself in the foot right from the start. Well at least we now know Panasonic FF is no threat to Canon, Nikon, or Sony FF.
caulixtla: The laws of optical physics says this isn’t going to be a pancake lens like their 12-32 (24-64 35mm equivalent) 3.5-5.6 lens. It’s going to be a big heavy lens, probably bigger than their 14-140 (28-280 equiv.) 3.5-5.6 superzoom.
That said, this is a really great lens for people who shoot on the wide side or want variable focal length in a very fast lens.
It’s only a fast lens to m43 users. In the FF world it is a slow f3.5-5.6 lens which would have less CA and cost less. Yet another reason m43 has no long term future.
Big, heavy and expensive. Chasing a larger format aperture equivalent is a fools errand, and yet another reason to move up to APS-C!
Indulis Bernsteins: If there is one thing that anmnoys me with Fujifilm lenses it is the sloppy aperture clicks, which make it too easy to bump out of your setting. It would be an easy thing to fix, but each new lens has the same problem.
The X-T2 has a feature that can lock the control of your choice, including the aperture. I have one of the camera buttons assigned to this function so I can lock and unlock the aperture without menu diving.
I liked the first image, but it would have been better cropped differently with the subject to the right and the background to the left. In that way the subject has somewhere to place his gaze. The rest of the images are quite pedestrian though which don’t show any composition skills. It’s hard to see how these images could win anyone an award, but we live in strange times where merit often takes a back seat to other considerations, so no telling what the outcome will be.
focalphotography: Is this based on the Samsung NX1 sensor ?
Rather than the typical Sony sensors Fuji use ?
It is reportedly a Sony sensor.
A nice fixed lens camera worthy of consideration if it were priced reasonably at around $500. At this price point Panasonic must think they are Sony! 😏
UllerellU: I bought a Samyang 12mm f2.0 for my A6000. The corners were really horrible, for astrography there was no problem, but for landscape a disaster, even closing, in addition the diffraction started very soon. The marks of the distances were not pecise (really iimportant in a manual lens), and they were limited. A shame. These lens are not cheap, I mean here in Europe was around € 340. without OS, without AF, without electrical contacts, without weather sealing , plastic construction .... They have saved on everything. I do not mean that I will never again look at a Samyang lens (I would have stayed if it were not for those corners ...) and there are focal points (as in this case in my system) in which there is no alternative (Zeiss 12mm 2.8 € 1,000 and it's much slower), but let no one be wrong of what they are.
You must have gotten a bad copy. My Samyang 12mm f2.0 has acceptable sharpness at the edges on my Fujifilm X-T10 and X-T2 when stopped down to f2.8. and is always very sharp in a large portion of the center area. You can see some examples in my gallery that I shot at a dinosaur exhibit which are camera JPEGs with no cropping or PP.
SimenO1: Is there any indication that this is a GOOD lens?
- Any special glass?
- Special coatings?
- Number of lenses and groups
- Number of aperture blades - strait or rounded?
According to Samyang:
The Samyang MF 85mm F1.8 ED UMC CS is designed with 9 lens elements in 7 groups and it delivers high resolution from the centre to the corners of the image. A high-refractive and an extra-low dispersion element, along with Ultra Multi-Coating (UMC) help minimise chromatic aberrations and deliver clear, vibrant images.
I like that Samsung is now making lenses specifically designed for APS-C mirrorless cameras rather than just putting a mirrorless mount on a huge lens designed for a DSLR (which they had been doing). The 85mm F1.8 ED UMC CS weighs in at just over 300g and measures 8cm long which means it is small and light and should handle nicely on my Fujifilm cameras. I have the Samyang 12mm F2.0 NCS CS lens designed for APS-C that is so sharp in the center area that LensTip scores it higher than the Zeiss Touit 12mm 2.8! Not bad for a tiny sub $300 lens. I hope this new 85mm F1.8 lens delivers similar sharpness as their 12 mm f/2.0 as well.
stevevelvia50: I don’t get the short zoom trend, seriously? A 28-70 from tamron? The only really noteworthy zoom in the mirrorless arena with optical chops is the Olympus 12-100 f4 Pro, with dual image stabilization, outstanding sharpness at every focal length, every aperature and every focusing distance! If you can live with micro four thirds and 20 mp, occasional high res landscape shooting, which I’m more than pleased with, then there is no better lens. Nikon should have at least opted to put their very best engineering attempts into an updated 24-120 f4 with similar specs to the Olympus, a very difficult thing to achieve, now that would have been a serious step in the right direction. 24-70? Way to short!
Short zoom ranges have always been typical with FF cameras. It keeps IQ up and size and weight down. Some of Nikon’s worst FF lenses are in the longer zoom ranges. Example in point is the Nikkor 24-120mm f4 that is so soft above 50mm at f4 that is essentially unusable. Stopping down to f5.6 improves things greatly, but the the question then becomes is whether this is really a constant f4.0 lens or not?