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On article Opinion: the Sony a7 III could be the new Nikon D750 (1162 comments in total)
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Charlie Jin: I am wondering about the "ergonomics" of Sony cameras in general, which dpreview never considers. It's mostly "menu-driven" which I really hate. Can you change/switch to other modes/settings instantly using left and right hands for control buttons ? Or do you have to look at the screen, turn the dials, select the functions and/or click on the screen to do what you want to do ? I am concerned because this camera does not have any control button on the left side. This means that you can do only limited number of things with right hand only and for others you have to dig into the screen menus.

Hey T3

If you have a real grip you don't have to hold a camera by the lens. But as you say pay an extra $350 and then you get something close to the D750...which then sells for almost $1000 less.

Link | Posted on Apr 17, 2018 at 13:59 UTC
On article Opinion: the Sony a7 III could be the new Nikon D750 (1162 comments in total)
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Charlie Jin: I am wondering about the "ergonomics" of Sony cameras in general, which dpreview never considers. It's mostly "menu-driven" which I really hate. Can you change/switch to other modes/settings instantly using left and right hands for control buttons ? Or do you have to look at the screen, turn the dials, select the functions and/or click on the screen to do what you want to do ? I am concerned because this camera does not have any control button on the left side. This means that you can do only limited number of things with right hand only and for others you have to dig into the screen menus.

I love reading the T3 excuse making. Over 50 posts in one comment section.

Some hilarious ones.

No one needs to use a camera all day and if they do pay for lots of extra batteries!!

The A7iii has a nice grip like the Nikon...you only have to pay $350 MORE for it.

Link | Posted on Apr 17, 2018 at 13:57 UTC
On article Opinion: the Sony a7 III could be the new Nikon D750 (1162 comments in total)
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LessMirrored19: Number of recalls
D750 : 3
A7iii : 0

The A7iii was just released and has a large number of major flaws. The Nikon has been out 4 years.

As for the Sony...

OSPDAF artifacts (ugly lines)
Lens mount light leaking
Incomplete weather seals
Overheating warnings and shutdowns

These are just a few of the problems Sony will never address...and the camera has only been out a few weeks!!!!

Link | Posted on Apr 17, 2018 at 13:48 UTC
On article Opinion: the Sony a7 III could be the new Nikon D750 (1162 comments in total)
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Charlie Jin: I am wondering about the "ergonomics" of Sony cameras in general, which dpreview never considers. It's mostly "menu-driven" which I really hate. Can you change/switch to other modes/settings instantly using left and right hands for control buttons ? Or do you have to look at the screen, turn the dials, select the functions and/or click on the screen to do what you want to do ? I am concerned because this camera does not have any control button on the left side. This means that you can do only limited number of things with right hand only and for others you have to dig into the screen menus.

The Sony relies greatly on the battery draining LCD and EVF. This is why battery life is so poor. The D750 has a top plate LCD that requires very little energy.

Link | Posted on Apr 17, 2018 at 13:03 UTC
On article Opinion: the Sony a7 III could be the new Nikon D750 (1162 comments in total)
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Dan DeLion: Sony makes fine cameras, I own three (RX100, RX100 mkii, RX10.) Whether their FF bodies are up to pro standards is really the question. The article is comparing the Sony to the D750. That Nikon is a sturdy workhorse capable of pro results all day long under all kinds of conditions. I wonder whether you can say that about the new Sony a7 iii?

Osv is right, Nikon fixed their issues and the cameras no longer have those problems.

Unlike Sony. My A7rii still overheats. It is still not weather sealed (despite marketing lies), it still suffers from OSPDAF artifacts, etc.
Sony's idea of a "fix" is to come out with a new model...that still has the same issues.

Link | Posted on Apr 17, 2018 at 12:50 UTC
On article Opinion: the Sony a7 III could be the new Nikon D750 (1162 comments in total)
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Dan DeLion: Sony makes fine cameras, I own three (RX100, RX100 mkii, RX10.) Whether their FF bodies are up to pro standards is really the question. The article is comparing the Sony to the D750. That Nikon is a sturdy workhorse capable of pro results all day long under all kinds of conditions. I wonder whether you can say that about the new Sony a7 iii?

Well Nikon did take 3 times to fix one issue, but they did...way back in 2015.

Too bad Sony never fixed the poor mount sealing, overheating, lack of weather sealing, OSPDAF pixel artifacts, OSPDAF lines, etc. Their idea of a fix is fake marketing.

The #1 thing the Sony has going for it is all those Canon AF adapters that everyone is buying so they can use Canon lenses.

Link | Posted on Apr 16, 2018 at 20:22 UTC
On article Opinion: the Sony a7 III could be the new Nikon D750 (1162 comments in total)
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mrpuggy: Has anyone with an a7 riii got it slightly damp? I’m keen for a Sony but the weather sealing does worry me..

DPR, Imaging Resource, Lens Rentals, etc. Have all proven repeatedly that Sony cameras are not properly weather sealed and not weather resistant. They never were and still are not.
You can always tell the Sony trolls. Despite numerous articles from respected independent sources, they still lie and try to claim the cameras are fully sealed.

Link | Posted on Apr 16, 2018 at 19:46 UTC
On article Opinion: the Sony a7 III could be the new Nikon D750 (1162 comments in total)
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retr01976: It just goes to show sensors performance is in the eye of the beholder. Having owned the Sony A7 Mark II, I would take Canon FF over Sony any day of the week. Sure the sensor doesn't live up to Sony on PAPER, but in the real world Canon's lovely tones and cinematic 'realistic' colors and skin tones and details knock Sony out of the park.

@Joe
Look at the Sony samples in th DPR articles, besides the lines (artifacts) everyone is complaining about the ugly skin tones (like always).
Those pictures were taken with the help of Sony and they still showed artifacts and bad skin tones.

Link | Posted on Apr 16, 2018 at 19:41 UTC
On article Opinion: the Sony a7 III could be the new Nikon D750 (1162 comments in total)
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retr01976: It just goes to show sensors performance is in the eye of the beholder. Having owned the Sony A7 Mark II, I would take Canon FF over Sony any day of the week. Sure the sensor doesn't live up to Sony on PAPER, but in the real world Canon's lovely tones and cinematic 'realistic' colors and skin tones and details knock Sony out of the park.

Notice how terrible and lacking the colors are in that “shootout”. Most colors were deliberately left out. It proves that by cherry picking makeup any picture can have waxy ugly skin tones.
A real test would include people with different skin tones, better colors and more colors like green, blue, orange, purple, etc.
But then the same people try to claim the camera is weather resistant.
To see how awful Sony skin tones are, look at the DPR samples.
Yuck.

Link | Posted on Apr 16, 2018 at 14:39 UTC
On article Opinion: the Sony a7 III could be the new Nikon D750 (1162 comments in total)
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retr01976: It just goes to show sensors performance is in the eye of the beholder. Having owned the Sony A7 Mark II, I would take Canon FF over Sony any day of the week. Sure the sensor doesn't live up to Sony on PAPER, but in the real world Canon's lovely tones and cinematic 'realistic' colors and skin tones and details knock Sony out of the park.

Color science is more important the DR and noise when it comes to FF.
People notice the ugly Sony colors and skin tones immediately. Under normal viewing no one can see the difference in DR.
Look every immediately saw those ugly lines and artifacts withe Sony.
That is why the Sony is a poor option for those who don't spend hours in lightroom.

Link | Posted on Apr 16, 2018 at 13:57 UTC
On article Opinion: the Sony a7 III could be the new Nikon D750 (1162 comments in total)
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Mastering Light: The Sony colors still look terrible. That is something that affects every image. Then there is the weird banding-like problems. Yuck.
The package is over priced too. $4200 for a camera and one 2.8 zoom!
I check various sites and you can get a Nikon 2.8 zoom for $1400 (vs. $2200 for Sony) and there are 3rd party 2.8 zooms for $500. On the used market there is an even larger difference.
If you want two 2.8 zooms the lowest price you find for Sony approaches $7000!!!! For Nikon there are options for under $3000.
Between the bad colors, ugly skin tones, banding-like issues, and higher costs, the D750 is a better option for almost everyone.

Star eater, not weather resistant, continued overheating issues...
It is very true Sony continues to ignore user pleas, and refuses to fix problems. But my point was we can find more affordable and often better lenses for the Nikon. That is why Canon adapters are so popular for the Sony. One of the only ways to uses better and more affordable lenses. There are a half dozen Canon AF adapters now.

Link | Posted on Apr 16, 2018 at 13:49 UTC
On article Opinion: the Sony a7 III could be the new Nikon D750 (1162 comments in total)

The Sony colors still look terrible. That is something that affects every image. Then there is the weird banding-like problems. Yuck.
The package is over priced too. $4200 for a camera and one 2.8 zoom!
I check various sites and you can get a Nikon 2.8 zoom for $1400 (vs. $2200 for Sony) and there are 3rd party 2.8 zooms for $500. On the used market there is an even larger difference.
If you want two 2.8 zooms the lowest price you find for Sony approaches $7000!!!! For Nikon there are options for under $3000.
Between the bad colors, ugly skin tones, banding-like issues, and higher costs, the D750 is a better option for almost everyone.

Link | Posted on Apr 16, 2018 at 13:01 UTC as 93rd comment | 8 replies
On article Opinion: the Sony a7 III could be the new Nikon D750 (1162 comments in total)

The Sony is kind of a rip off when one considers the whole package. The A7iii and two f2.8 zooms is almost $7000. With just a 24-70/2.8 it is a whopping $4400. Worse, since so many Sony users buy Canon lenses, there are few Sony’s on the used market. So while anyone can find a D750 with a 24-70/2.8 got just over $2000, the Sony is more than double.
The D750, which focuses faster in low light and is weather resistant, is not only a better camera, but is a better value. Heck, a lot of people will have to pay even more just so they can get a decent grip and battery life with the Sony. Sony you pay THOUSANDS more for a camera that isn’t weather resistant and won’t take noticeably better pictures. Ouch.

Link | Posted on Apr 16, 2018 at 02:32 UTC as 129th comment | 15 replies

Reminds me of how Bluray was going to put an end to DVDs. It never happened. But both are getting killed by streaming...like smartphones killing ILCs..

Link | Posted on Apr 14, 2018 at 14:13 UTC as 30th comment | 3 replies

People keep saying the phone is expensive, but many already have one and it does a lot of very important other things. The benefit of it being a camera is a cheap extra.
It is like going to buy a PC and getting a camcorder and P&S for free.

Link | Posted on Apr 13, 2018 at 14:25 UTC as 91st comment | 4 replies
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Reservoir_Dog: The biggest advantage of mirrorless is accurate pin point af. No more microadjust!

@osv, were those taken with an RX100 or Nikon 1? The DoF is close to smartphone wide. I cant imagine using a $5000 camera to get such a large DoF. The old EM1 does a better as will any $500 dslr with an inexpensive f2.8 zoom
I have an a77 that does a much better job too and it cost only $400, af is better and the dof is narrower. A good 80-200 f2.8 zoom is $500. You should try one. Your pics would be noticeably better. Colors would be more pleasing. Dof would be shallower. And youd save about $5000.

Link | Posted on Apr 13, 2018 at 13:02 UTC
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Class A: Interesting CIPA sales data (from 2012-2018) showing the development for both DSLRs and MILCs.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/137-photographic-industry-professionals/363681-dslr-vs-dslm-actual-data-overview-2012-2018-a.html#post4248550

It looks like MILC sales have been almost stagnating since 2012.

The reason why MILC sales have come closer to DSLR sales is because there has been a rather drastic decline in DSLR sales. What will happen beyond early 2018, isn't clear from the graph, though. Potentially depending on how DLSR manufacturers respond in terms of pricing or what the bottom market level for DSLRs is, the "reign" may not be over just yet.

Kudos to beholder3 for compiling the data and presenting it in graph form.

@T3
If what you said was true, you would have switched to M43 and smaller more affordable F2.8 lenses long ago. Sensor size is very close to Canon APSC and lenses usually have wider apertures.

It is very funny that so many Sony owners are buying all those various EF adapters and using EF lenses. I know first hand A mount lenses do not work well on Sony's own cameras.

Anyway, sales figures show Canon is the fastest growing mirrorless camera maker (despite surpassing Sony in Japan over 2 years ago). And that BEFORE entering the FF mirrorless market.

Link | Posted on Apr 11, 2018 at 19:45 UTC
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5k5: What a strange new world where faking it has become something to aspire to.

I bet you've never softened or sharpened anything in a photo, LOL!

Link | Posted on Apr 11, 2018 at 19:20 UTC

Honestly, virtually ALL photos are edited and modified in some way. Ever hear of "soften", "sharpen", lifting highlights", JPEG colors, etc? Google Photoshop. :)
Smartphones are doing it faster these days for the masses.

Link | Posted on Apr 11, 2018 at 19:19 UTC as 17th comment
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Class A: Interesting CIPA sales data (from 2012-2018) showing the development for both DSLRs and MILCs.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/137-photographic-industry-professionals/363681-dslr-vs-dslm-actual-data-overview-2012-2018-a.html#post4248550

It looks like MILC sales have been almost stagnating since 2012.

The reason why MILC sales have come closer to DSLR sales is because there has been a rather drastic decline in DSLR sales. What will happen beyond early 2018, isn't clear from the graph, though. Potentially depending on how DLSR manufacturers respond in terms of pricing or what the bottom market level for DSLRs is, the "reign" may not be over just yet.

Kudos to beholder3 for compiling the data and presenting it in graph form.

@T3

Tamron and Sigma see that their EF lenses work well on EOS-M, so no need to duplicate them at this time. They saw A mount lenses did NOT work well and many Sony E mount lenses were NOT affordable. They see an opportunity.

But it is still funny that no less than 5 companies now make adapters so that Sony users can use EF lenses. They are VERY popular.

Link | Posted on Apr 11, 2018 at 19:10 UTC
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