marcio_napoli

marcio_napoli

Lives in Brazil São Bernardo do Campo, Brazil
Works as a Fashion Photographer
Joined on Mar 12, 2010
About me:

check it out my You Tube channel:
https://youtu.be/SIO0J3aqLVg

Aliens (acclaimed short film_near 700K views on YT):
https://youtu.be/aliscTnlsvg

Instagram:
@marcio_user

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Mr Bolton: If anyone would know which way the wind is blowing, it would be this guy. What an amazing career!

It's interesting how he notes that you'd need a 300 inch screen to really see all of 8K. And for that matter, that the 32" 4K monitor I have in front of me is really kind of overkill in terms of resolution.

I worked in a building that used to house a TV studio circa 1961. One day I was outside and found this huge air compressor, like the tank is as big as a small car, and I couldn't for the life of me understand why a TV studio would have compressed air service big enough for a dozen bay auto garage. Then I remembered-in 1961 video tape machines required compressed air which they used to maintain the tape in suspension over the heads.

Imagine a career which spans from that, to today..

@ilza, I hope you're being sarcastic, otherwise you missed my point by way too many miles.

Link | Posted on May 8, 2021 at 01:42 UTC
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Mr Bolton: If anyone would know which way the wind is blowing, it would be this guy. What an amazing career!

It's interesting how he notes that you'd need a 300 inch screen to really see all of 8K. And for that matter, that the 32" 4K monitor I have in front of me is really kind of overkill in terms of resolution.

I worked in a building that used to house a TV studio circa 1961. One day I was outside and found this huge air compressor, like the tank is as big as a small car, and I couldn't for the life of me understand why a TV studio would have compressed air service big enough for a dozen bay auto garage. Then I remembered-in 1961 video tape machines required compressed air which they used to maintain the tape in suspension over the heads.

Imagine a career which spans from that, to today..

Yup, besides having a YT channel (lots of video activities), I have done my fair share of amateur filmmaking. Nowadays I use 4k because I can, it's there already in my cam, so why not.

But before having that, we were in very crude stages of 1080p (think of D800, D600 etc), I used to say what we needed was not 4k, but excelent 1080p, with Pro Res, Raw, full use of the sensor, etc.

Honestly, if I had to chose one of the two and never look back, I'd take perfect pro grade 1080p over consumer quality 4k (like from my ageing GH4).

All this talk of 8k is nonsense. Quality is the key, not resolution.

Link | Posted on May 7, 2021 at 14:27 UTC
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Mr Bolton: If anyone would know which way the wind is blowing, it would be this guy. What an amazing career!

It's interesting how he notes that you'd need a 300 inch screen to really see all of 8K. And for that matter, that the 32" 4K monitor I have in front of me is really kind of overkill in terms of resolution.

I worked in a building that used to house a TV studio circa 1961. One day I was outside and found this huge air compressor, like the tank is as big as a small car, and I couldn't for the life of me understand why a TV studio would have compressed air service big enough for a dozen bay auto garage. Then I remembered-in 1961 video tape machines required compressed air which they used to maintain the tape in suspension over the heads.

Imagine a career which spans from that, to today..

I tried but failed resisting myself, have to make the troll-not-really / more like a reality check comment.

This guy, with a magnificent career, tells you 1080p is quite good enough for HIS high end standards, mind you, the standards of a super, mega high end professional.

Yet, amateurs in DPR have anxiety attack waiting for 8k. Hmmmmmm....... ;)

In the same case, a ton of pro photographers, with very high standards, will say 24 mp is more than enough for their professional careers (and even 12 mp remais pretty solid overall), yet amateurs in DPR say they need 100 mp or much, much more.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm....

That's pretty interesting, don't you think?

Link | Posted on May 7, 2021 at 00:47 UTC
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Ranger 9: I'm really impressed by the field producer who managed to go around and interrupt people's bowling and drinking to get them to sign releases and liability waivers. Or was the whole thing done with a recruited cast?

100% sure that's all acting (staged I mean). Things are happening under a director's command or a script, like the guy rubbing his ball (errr...) at the perfect moment so the drone can pass by, the girl discussing, guys in the theater, it's all under an "art direction".

Link | Posted on Mar 11, 2021 at 03:09 UTC
On article Leica announces APO-Summicron-M 35mm F2 ASPH (419 comments in total)
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marcio_napoli: It's amazing when you go past the point price has to be justified by common market laws, it literally reinvents the rules, and you can charge literally random numbers.

I mean, this price tag is not there because it has a ton of glass into it (like a f2 telephoto) or a large DMF lens having to cover a big image circle, etc.

Despite the quality being probably amazing, this price is probably selected by picking up small pieces of paper inside a jar. There was another paper with a 6k tag, another with 11k tag.

It just happens someone randomly picked the piece of paper with 8.200 USD.

No other explanation justifies that cash for a 35mm f-TWO lens besides the jar thing, and this being LEICA doing its thing for a market with infinite pockets.

BTW, I'm a super proud M8 owner, with a cheap Voigtlander 28mm f2, which I'm also super proud.

And to prove I actually use my M8 with joy, never allowing it to be just a shallow status symbol, here's a recent video from my channel mainly shot with the M8.

In the video, I'm never praising the camera for its brand power, but instead for its gorgeous old schoold colors and CCD image quality:

https://youtu.be/SZGrVC6J994

It's mildly NSFW (censored topless), but there you can see I love my Leica on actual use.

One of the reasons I don't care I have the old, beaten up, cheap M8 instead of the 10k current M models.

It's to use, not to show off. :)

Link | Posted on Mar 5, 2021 at 20:54 UTC
On article Leica announces APO-Summicron-M 35mm F2 ASPH (419 comments in total)
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marcio_napoli: It's amazing when you go past the point price has to be justified by common market laws, it literally reinvents the rules, and you can charge literally random numbers.

I mean, this price tag is not there because it has a ton of glass into it (like a f2 telephoto) or a large DMF lens having to cover a big image circle, etc.

Despite the quality being probably amazing, this price is probably selected by picking up small pieces of paper inside a jar. There was another paper with a 6k tag, another with 11k tag.

It just happens someone randomly picked the piece of paper with 8.200 USD.

No other explanation justifies that cash for a 35mm f-TWO lens besides the jar thing, and this being LEICA doing its thing for a market with infinite pockets.

BTW, I'm a super proud M8 owner, with a cheap Voigtlander 28mm f2, which I'm also super proud.

SmcTak, I'm totally with you. To be honest, I can't really blame the pride thing because if I could, I'd love to have a 50k USD Phase One and a Ferrari in my garage

So it's a subject divided in 2 POVs. There's pride in acquiring certain things, as they can mean a lot to a person, and it can also be a test of emotional and financial endurance to get to that goal

In my case, it took me 10 years from first wanting a Leica M8 to finally affording one

So pride in this case can be understood

But there's a second point (where I 100% agree with other posters), is that just buying things to say "I have it", to show off, for status, or to put it in a shelf, now that I will never, ever agree with

It's gear. It must be used, a portfolio of any kind must be created with it

Therefore I can't swallow the 8k price tag. If the goal is to actually use the lens, there're so many other options with similar quality for 1/10th of the price

8k just for the sake of status, I will never agree with

Link | Posted on Mar 5, 2021 at 20:44 UTC
On article Leica announces APO-Summicron-M 35mm F2 ASPH (419 comments in total)
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marcio_napoli: It's amazing when you go past the point price has to be justified by common market laws, it literally reinvents the rules, and you can charge literally random numbers.

I mean, this price tag is not there because it has a ton of glass into it (like a f2 telephoto) or a large DMF lens having to cover a big image circle, etc.

Despite the quality being probably amazing, this price is probably selected by picking up small pieces of paper inside a jar. There was another paper with a 6k tag, another with 11k tag.

It just happens someone randomly picked the piece of paper with 8.200 USD.

No other explanation justifies that cash for a 35mm f-TWO lens besides the jar thing, and this being LEICA doing its thing for a market with infinite pockets.

BTW, I'm a super proud M8 owner, with a cheap Voigtlander 28mm f2, which I'm also super proud.

@Kurgo, if you take a look at my profile, you'll see I have a You Tube channel to which I dedicate 900% of my energies, having also been a pro in the past.

A quick look at the content will show I'm really proud of X, Y gear, but much, much more of the things that are accomplished with them.

And I totally agree with you!

Pride for merely buying something is not my cup of tea either, to put in gentle terms. :)

But if you can have something and use it to its potential, now there's a good reason to have pride in ownership.

This partly explains why I'm proud of having a Leica M8, and don't care it's not the current 10k USD M model.

That thing is *actually* used, in the real world, it's not there for status or show off.

It's there for actual use, and I love the look coming from vintage CCD cameras.

Link | Posted on Mar 5, 2021 at 03:27 UTC
On article Leica announces APO-Summicron-M 35mm F2 ASPH (419 comments in total)
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marcio_napoli: It's amazing when you go past the point price has to be justified by common market laws, it literally reinvents the rules, and you can charge literally random numbers.

I mean, this price tag is not there because it has a ton of glass into it (like a f2 telephoto) or a large DMF lens having to cover a big image circle, etc.

Despite the quality being probably amazing, this price is probably selected by picking up small pieces of paper inside a jar. There was another paper with a 6k tag, another with 11k tag.

It just happens someone randomly picked the piece of paper with 8.200 USD.

No other explanation justifies that cash for a 35mm f-TWO lens besides the jar thing, and this being LEICA doing its thing for a market with infinite pockets.

BTW, I'm a super proud M8 owner, with a cheap Voigtlander 28mm f2, which I'm also super proud.

One thing I wanna add to my OP comment, and this is not sarcasm at all, it's a genuine argument.

This lens can barely deserve this price tag, I know you guys will argue about QC, optics, etc.

But in all honesty, IF the exact same lens, from Leica themselves, was priced 1k, no one would care.

Leica know their market, they price it at 8k 100% on purpose.

It creates aurea, mystique, desire, want, lust.

If it was cheap, it would completely lose their market's interest.

I'm not bashing at all, just saying out loud that this market operates in very different rules than any other ordinary market laws.

If we're going this line of thought, it's not far off from the truth to say this is a 2k lens + 6k of mystique.

Link | Posted on Mar 4, 2021 at 20:43 UTC
On article Leica announces APO-Summicron-M 35mm F2 ASPH (419 comments in total)
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marcio_napoli: It's amazing when you go past the point price has to be justified by common market laws, it literally reinvents the rules, and you can charge literally random numbers.

I mean, this price tag is not there because it has a ton of glass into it (like a f2 telephoto) or a large DMF lens having to cover a big image circle, etc.

Despite the quality being probably amazing, this price is probably selected by picking up small pieces of paper inside a jar. There was another paper with a 6k tag, another with 11k tag.

It just happens someone randomly picked the piece of paper with 8.200 USD.

No other explanation justifies that cash for a 35mm f-TWO lens besides the jar thing, and this being LEICA doing its thing for a market with infinite pockets.

BTW, I'm a super proud M8 owner, with a cheap Voigtlander 28mm f2, which I'm also super proud.

SmcTak, consider not every country in the world is USA, Japan or somewhere in Europe.

My M8 + extra battery + 1 lens + IR cut filter cost me around 13 grand in my local money (Brazil). 13 grand (BR currency) for me is about as hard to earn as 13k USD is for you.

Lots of cash for most pockets, mine for sure. Also, that was purchased in 2018, after wanting a digital Leica for about 10 years.

Not a mere shallow desire, think anything you've been wanting for 10 years.

Hope that helps understanding things are much, much harder to earn in other places not called USA or Europe.

Therefore, the purchase generates pride.

Link | Posted on Mar 4, 2021 at 20:33 UTC
On article Leica announces APO-Summicron-M 35mm F2 ASPH (419 comments in total)

It's amazing when you go past the point price has to be justified by common market laws, it literally reinvents the rules, and you can charge literally random numbers.

I mean, this price tag is not there because it has a ton of glass into it (like a f2 telephoto) or a large DMF lens having to cover a big image circle, etc.

Despite the quality being probably amazing, this price is probably selected by picking up small pieces of paper inside a jar. There was another paper with a 6k tag, another with 11k tag.

It just happens someone randomly picked the piece of paper with 8.200 USD.

No other explanation justifies that cash for a 35mm f-TWO lens besides the jar thing, and this being LEICA doing its thing for a market with infinite pockets.

BTW, I'm a super proud M8 owner, with a cheap Voigtlander 28mm f2, which I'm also super proud.

Link | Posted on Mar 4, 2021 at 20:07 UTC as 106th comment | 12 replies
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Thoughts R Us: I've noticed in forums like these, there's a tendency for many to assume that if a feature/device is not for them, then it's not for anyone. Hence we have so many bold proclamations as to how 8K is not very useful. But anyone posting should say that it's not useful to them.

The fact is that with 4K, we heard the same arguments. No one needs it, too big files, no one has the right TVs, etc. We've seen it with many other tech advancements.

So it's fair to say that 8K right now will be for everyone. But it will be for some.

And when one sees the 8K content that this will be used to create, the cynics and critics will be proven wrong, once again.

One last note, so I can go.

You Tubers will use anything at their hands to get an edge at clickbait. You'll see content created in 8k left and right, as soon as it becomes affordable.

We're talking about YTers, right?

Iphones will have 8k soon enough, because specs

Well, if to you those standards prove a new world has started, go ahead.

I don't mean to offend, you can have a different opinion, but just because 8k finds its way to phones (on gimmick level quality), or at you tubers' hands (to get crushed then by that glorious YT compression), that doesn't mean at all 8k is the new standard.

Hollywood, series, production houses, visual effects houses, that's the standard.

Bookmark this chat, (if and) when all of those are accepting 8k as the standard, you can say this was just my opinion and I was wrong.

Until then, I think you'll notice it will take a long, long time to get to 8k

Again, it has nothing to do with CPU, storage, opinion.

It's about not wasting uneeded resources.

Link | Posted on Mar 24, 2020 at 05:02 UTC
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Thoughts R Us: I've noticed in forums like these, there's a tendency for many to assume that if a feature/device is not for them, then it's not for anyone. Hence we have so many bold proclamations as to how 8K is not very useful. But anyone posting should say that it's not useful to them.

The fact is that with 4K, we heard the same arguments. No one needs it, too big files, no one has the right TVs, etc. We've seen it with many other tech advancements.

So it's fair to say that 8K right now will be for everyone. But it will be for some.

And when one sees the 8K content that this will be used to create, the cynics and critics will be proven wrong, once again.

I'll leave this chat at this post, honestly have more urgent things to do, and this chat will lock itself in a loop. I'll just, once again, say it has nothing to do with opinion.

Once again, it is all about resources, efficiency, not wasting uneeded effort, money, deadline.

Wasting the above has NOTHING at all with opinion. It's a very solid thing.

TRU, have you ever animated, composed or rendered a visual effects shot in 1080p vs 4k to see how much effort it takes between the 2 formats? Let alone 8k...

Hollywood and production houses will think 30 times before dumping uneeded time and money for those extra moving 22mp.

Look at amweber21 post right above. He insists handling 8k is about storage and faster CPU.

Guys, it's a whole chain. Makeup, 3d rendering, compositing, stages, chroma keying, wardrobe, people's skin health, people's hairstyling, ALL OF IT (sorry for the emphasis, it's needed)

Storage and processing is the least of your problems when moving such high res videos

Link | Posted on Mar 24, 2020 at 04:45 UTC
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Thoughts R Us: I've noticed in forums like these, there's a tendency for many to assume that if a feature/device is not for them, then it's not for anyone. Hence we have so many bold proclamations as to how 8K is not very useful. But anyone posting should say that it's not useful to them.

The fact is that with 4K, we heard the same arguments. No one needs it, too big files, no one has the right TVs, etc. We've seen it with many other tech advancements.

So it's fair to say that 8K right now will be for everyone. But it will be for some.

And when one sees the 8K content that this will be used to create, the cynics and critics will be proven wrong, once again.

There's a point when realistically things doesn't need any more "specs", so to speak, at least not in a particular direction (in this case video resolution).

8k surpasses the point where its benefits vs actual strain in production costs, deadlines, render times, etc etc, are reasonable and in harmony.

This conversation is similar to that wedding related discussion you've probably know of.

Imagine an upcoming FF at some point, with 100mp.

It might be awesome on paper, on specs, on forum chats, and for those not actually working on a daily basis with it.

Now ask a wedding photographer wasting storage and workflow on a daily basis.

8 out of 10 will be more interested in a 24mp camera than 100mp.

Link | Posted on Mar 23, 2020 at 23:40 UTC
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Thoughts R Us: I've noticed in forums like these, there's a tendency for many to assume that if a feature/device is not for them, then it's not for anyone. Hence we have so many bold proclamations as to how 8K is not very useful. But anyone posting should say that it's not useful to them.

The fact is that with 4K, we heard the same arguments. No one needs it, too big files, no one has the right TVs, etc. We've seen it with many other tech advancements.

So it's fair to say that 8K right now will be for everyone. But it will be for some.

And when one sees the 8K content that this will be used to create, the cynics and critics will be proven wrong, once again.

TRU, I was going to leave as it is, but this argument you've lifted I wanted to address before but forgot to.

One could argue the same thing was said countless times before: SD vs HD, 2mp vs 6mp, 6 vs 12, 12 vs 36, 4k vs 8k.

At every new format (or specs) the same debate happens again.

It really doesn't apply here anymore.

There's a point in which a change essentially puts things in future-proof mode.

No one said 2mp stills was enough, not even in 1999. It simply failed to satisfy all needs.

But I don't need to prove 36mp has reached a point most people or needs are satisfied. This doesn't need a debate.

It won't change when 100mp becomes affordable.

When that day comes, people have been satisfied since 24 or 36mp (varies from application to application).

Same applies for 4k vs 8k.

2k was awesome, but there was still some room to improve.

4k is that point.

You may argue you "need" 8k (same way a lot of people will argue they need 100mp).

Truth is, 99.999999% they don't.

Link | Posted on Mar 23, 2020 at 23:27 UTC
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Thoughts R Us: I've noticed in forums like these, there's a tendency for many to assume that if a feature/device is not for them, then it's not for anyone. Hence we have so many bold proclamations as to how 8K is not very useful. But anyone posting should say that it's not useful to them.

The fact is that with 4K, we heard the same arguments. No one needs it, too big files, no one has the right TVs, etc. We've seen it with many other tech advancements.

So it's fair to say that 8K right now will be for everyone. But it will be for some.

And when one sees the 8K content that this will be used to create, the cynics and critics will be proven wrong, once again.

Allow me to say I've been creating my own films for 20 years now, been interviewed in my Country's prime talk show at 24 yo, had articles in magazines, and have a short on YT with 500k views atm (a decent feat, since it's not English spoken and no one involved is famous in the slightest).

That said, 8k is a gimmick. One designed exactly for that: to impress customers by numbers, by specs, by "this is the future".

In every business, you strive for quality (of course). You do, as long as it doesn't put you out of business.

Once that extra quality makes you miss deadlines, forces you to hire much more expensive and hard to find artists, makes you change your entire production chain, you simply draw the line elsewhere than absolute quality.

4k is optimum. It offers bags of quality, without putting unecessary stress on the whole chain.

If that doesn't yet make sense, just think about it: Hollywood with all the money in the world and the desire to impress audiences, still chooses 4k.

Link | Posted on Mar 23, 2020 at 22:04 UTC
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Thoughts R Us: I've noticed in forums like these, there's a tendency for many to assume that if a feature/device is not for them, then it's not for anyone. Hence we have so many bold proclamations as to how 8K is not very useful. But anyone posting should say that it's not useful to them.

The fact is that with 4K, we heard the same arguments. No one needs it, too big files, no one has the right TVs, etc. We've seen it with many other tech advancements.

So it's fair to say that 8K right now will be for everyone. But it will be for some.

And when one sees the 8K content that this will be used to create, the cynics and critics will be proven wrong, once again.

TRU, the same old tech talk. The deffence of more tech, for the sake of more tech, without considering real world drawbacks.

Honest question here, do you work with video productions at any level? Regardless of yes or no, do you know how much stress more and more (downright uneeded) resolution puts on the production chain?

Besides storage and faster workstations (which are the "only" thing people assume will suffer), there's so much more.

Better makeup artists, better chroma key techniques (incredibly, good keying remains an art all by itself in 2020), better CGI artists (not even talking about Hollywood FX. You need CGI artists for a simple animation opening a tv show), better built stages, with far more realism, better costumes or wardrobe, etc etc.

It puts so much uneeded strain on every level of the chain, all of that for what? A resolution most people will not ever care.

Link | Posted on Mar 23, 2020 at 21:35 UTC
On article DPReview TV: Scan film negatives with the Nikon ES-2 (276 comments in total)

Is it just my impression or Chris was a (much?) better photographer in the film days?

Lots of impressive images in this gallery, which I don't feel quite the same for his current galleries on digital (at least here in DPR).

That guy with the guitar shot is just epic!

Link | Posted on Mar 5, 2020 at 02:31 UTC as 52nd comment | 4 replies

I don't expect to get friendly support on my post, and I have nothing to do with street photography, my field is fashion, I have next to none experience in street photography.

That out of the way, I'm increasingly pi$$ed off how sensitive this world is becoming.

Everything is PC. This is F-ing tiresome.

Is there anything left you can do in this world that won't harm the extreme sensitivity of sensitive people?

Let the man shoot.

He's at least man enough to shoot everyone in their faces, therefore letting everyone know what he did.

He's not behind a long lens on the far end of the street, shooting everyone from their backs.

To the sensitive PC world: time to grow some b@lls again. Not everything is meant to be taken as offense.

Link | Posted on Feb 6, 2020 at 20:56 UTC as 278th comment | 16 replies
On article Why Leica's M10 Monochrom is more than just a gimmick (666 comments in total)

So glad 99.999999% of my work is in colour.

If I honestly cared for BW, I'd be suffering unbearable levels of GAS right now.

If BW is your thing, this is second to none.

Link | Posted on Jan 18, 2020 at 04:05 UTC as 86th comment | 1 reply
On article First look at the Nikon D6 (335 comments in total)

When I read DPR crowd complaining this should be mirrorless or have popup flash, or too expensive, or this must be the last DSLR, or anything on those lines, it's like weekend paintball players complaining the latest gear the army has released for navy seals, doesn't have X feature paintball players use on the weekend.

If that offends, fight me.

Link | Posted on Jan 8, 2020 at 18:38 UTC as 41st comment | 4 replies
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